Re: The lies about vaccination was New Member

Posted March 19, 2008 · March 19, 2008

I think they can in some states like land. Although I have heard that

you go to jail, pay a fine, or get them vaxed. Some states do not care if

you have a religious belief or not.

le

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Behalf Of Beth Jacomet

Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:56 PM

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Subject: Re: RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was New

Member

I was doing some searching on the internet and found some information thst

scares me more than anything. Is it possible for your children to be taken

away from you if you do not vax or if you stop vax altogether???

~Beth

RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was

> New Member

>

> At 01:24 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

> >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:17 PM

> >

> >But if, when you go into an ER, they ask if she is up to date with

> >her vaccines - just say yes. She is according to your schedule.

> >Don't even discuss it. Just say she is up to date. PERIOD. They

> >don't need to know anything else. The have been pushed to push

> >vaccines and ask these questions.

> >

> >What if they don't look at something because you say that they

> are all

> >vaccinated.

>

> You aren't saying they are vaccinated

> You are saying they are up to date

> And the hospital does not have your vaccination records (or non-

> vax

> record) from Ped

>

> > I am new to this so I don't know all the ins and outs however I

> >don't think lying is good.

>

> You are not lying. You are saying " they are up to date " . Is that lie?

>

> If you say they aren't vaccinated or you don't vaccinate you

> better

> be ready for the harrassment that comes with it and the fact

> that

> your child will be treated differently.

>

> > Maybe you should call your local ER/Hospital and

> >see what their policy is before you find yourself ever down

> that road. We

> >called two of my local hospitals and one wouldn't even bat an

> eye and the

> >other says that we should vaccinate to prevent problems. I know which

> >hospital I will be going to if I need any of their services..

>

> All depends on doctor or nurse you run into

> Sheri

>

Posted March 19, 2008 · March 19, 2008

Beth,

If you don't mind me asking, which state do you live in?

Thanks!

le

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From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On

Behalf Of Beth Jacomet

Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:56 PM

Vaccinations

Subject: Re: RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was New

Member

I was doing some searching on the internet and found some information thst

scares me more than anything. Is it possible for your children to be taken

away from you if you do not vax or if you stop vax altogether???

~Beth

RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was

> New Member

>

> At 01:24 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

> >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:17 PM

> >

> >But if, when you go into an ER, they ask if she is up to date with

> >her vaccines - just say yes. She is according to your schedule.

> >Don't even discuss it. Just say she is up to date. PERIOD. They

> >don't need to know anything else. The have been pushed to push

> >vaccines and ask these questions.

> >

> >What if they don't look at something because you say that they

> are all

> >vaccinated.

>

> You aren't saying they are vaccinated

> You are saying they are up to date

> And the hospital does not have your vaccination records (or non-

> vax

> record) from Ped

>

> > I am new to this so I don't know all the ins and outs however I

> >don't think lying is good.

>

> You are not lying. You are saying " they are up to date " . Is that lie?

>

> If you say they aren't vaccinated or you don't vaccinate you

> better

> be ready for the harrassment that comes with it and the fact

> that

> your child will be treated differently.

>

> > Maybe you should call your local ER/Hospital and

> >see what their policy is before you find yourself ever down

> that road. We

> >called two of my local hospitals and one wouldn't even bat an

> eye and the

> >other says that we should vaccinate to prevent problems. I know which

> >hospital I will be going to if I need any of their services..

>

> All depends on doctor or nurse you run into

> Sheri

>

Posted March 19, 2008 · March 19, 2008

le, I do not mind at all!!!! I live in Ohio. I have checked with our

state law and it allows for all 3 exemptions for vaxing. However, I am not sure

what the requirements will be for us to travel overseas for my hubby's job.

That may be a different story.....

~Beth

RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was

> New Member

>

> At 01:24 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

> >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:17 PM

> >

> >But if, when you go into an ER, they ask if she is up to date with

> >her vaccines - just say yes. She is according to your schedule.

> >Don't even discuss it. Just say she is up to date. PERIOD. They

> >don't need to know anything else. The have been pushed to push

> >vaccines and ask these questions.

> >

> >What if they don't look at something because you say that they

> are all

> >vaccinated.

>

> You aren't saying they are vaccinated

> You are saying they are up to date

> And the hospital does not have your vaccination records (or non-

> vax

> record) from Ped

>

> > I am new to this so I don't know all the ins and outs however I

> >don't think lying is good.

>

> You are not lying. You are saying " they are up to date " . Is that lie?

>

> If you say they aren't vaccinated or you don't vaccinate you

> better

> be ready for the harrassment that comes with it and the fact

> that

> your child will be treated differently.

>

> > Maybe you should call your local ER/Hospital and

> >see what their policy is before you find yourself ever down

> that road. We

> >called two of my local hospitals and one wouldn't even bat an

> eye and the

> >other says that we should vaccinate to prevent problems. I know which

> >hospital I will be going to if I need any of their services..

>

> All depends on doctor or nurse you run into

> Sheri

>

Posted March 19, 2008 · March 19, 2008

Oh good, I was going to do that as well. 3 exemptions? What does that?

Like 3 vaccine exemptions or you can exempt three kids? Can you look up the

country's requirements?

le

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Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:29 PM

Vaccinations

Subject: Re: RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was New

Member

le, I do not mind at all!!!! I live in Ohio. I have checked with our

state law and it allows for all 3 exemptions for vaxing. However, I am not

sure what the requirements will be for us to travel overseas for my hubby's

job. That may be a different story.....

~Beth

RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was

> New Member

>

> At 01:24 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

> >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:17 PM

> >

> >But if, when you go into an ER, they ask if she is up to date with

> >her vaccines - just say yes. She is according to your schedule.

> >Don't even discuss it. Just say she is up to date. PERIOD. They

> >don't need to know anything else. The have been pushed to push

> >vaccines and ask these questions.

> >

> >What if they don't look at something because you say that they

> are all

> >vaccinated.

>

> You aren't saying they are vaccinated

> You are saying they are up to date

> And the hospital does not have your vaccination records (or non-

> vax

> record) from Ped

>

> > I am new to this so I don't know all the ins and outs however I

> >don't think lying is good.

>

> You are not lying. You are saying " they are up to date " . Is that lie?

>

> If you say they aren't vaccinated or you don't vaccinate you

> better

> be ready for the harrassment that comes with it and the fact

> that

> your child will be treated differently.

>

> > Maybe you should call your local ER/Hospital and

> >see what their policy is before you find yourself ever down

> that road. We

> >called two of my local hospitals and one wouldn't even bat an

> eye and the

> >other says that we should vaccinate to prevent problems. I know which

> >hospital I will be going to if I need any of their services..

>

> All depends on doctor or nurse you run into

> Sheri

>

Posted March 19, 2008 · March 19, 2008

le,

The 3 exemptions are to be able to sign a waiver for either the medical,

religious, or personal exemptions. Alot of states only have the first two. I

think there are only like 18 states that allow the personal exemption.

I am not sure about going from country to country. I do know that the country

we will be going to does not have any requirements to enter...but that is not to

say my hubby's job will not have requirements......

Where do you live???

~Beth

RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was

> New Member

>

> At 01:24 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

> >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:17 PM

> >

> >But if, when you go into an ER, they ask if she is up to date with

> >her vaccines - just say yes. She is according to your schedule.

> >Don't even discuss it. Just say she is up to date. PERIOD. They

> >don't need to know anything else. The have been pushed to push

> >vaccines and ask these questions.

> >

> >What if they don't look at something because you say that they

> are all

> >vaccinated.

>

> You aren't saying they are vaccinated

> You are saying they are up to date

> And the hospital does not have your vaccination records (or non-

> vax

> record) from Ped

>

> > I am new to this so I don't know all the ins and outs however I

> >don't think lying is good.

>

> You are not lying. You are saying " they are up to date " . Is that lie?

>

> If you say they aren't vaccinated or you don't vaccinate you

> better

> be ready for the harrassment that comes with it and the fact

> that

> your child will be treated differently.

>

> > Maybe you should call your local ER/Hospital and

> >see what their policy is before you find yourself ever down

> that road. We

> >called two of my local hospitals and one wouldn't even bat an

> eye and the

> >other says that we should vaccinate to prevent problems. I know which

> >hospital I will be going to if I need any of their services..

>

> All depends on doctor or nurse you run into

> Sheri

>

Posted March 19, 2008 · March 19, 2008

Hi Beth,

Thanks for the info! I haven't done much research out of Ca which is where

we live. Are you guys moving long term?

Thanks!

le

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Behalf Of Beth Jacomet

Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:40 PM

Vaccinations

Subject: Re: RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was New

Member

le,

The 3 exemptions are to be able to sign a waiver for either the medical,

religious, or personal exemptions. Alot of states only have the first two. I

think there are only like 18 states that allow the personal exemption.

I am not sure about going from country to country. I do know that the

country we will be going to does not have any requirements to enter...but

that is not to say my hubby's job will not have requirements......

Where do you live???

~Beth

RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was

> New Member

>

> At 01:24 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

> >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:17 PM

> >

> >But if, when you go into an ER, they ask if she is up to date with

> >her vaccines - just say yes. She is according to your schedule.

> >Don't even discuss it. Just say she is up to date. PERIOD. They

> >don't need to know anything else. The have been pushed to push

> >vaccines and ask these questions.

> >

> >What if they don't look at something because you say that they

> are all

> >vaccinated.

>

> You aren't saying they are vaccinated

> You are saying they are up to date

> And the hospital does not have your vaccination records (or non-

> vax

> record) from Ped

>

> > I am new to this so I don't know all the ins and outs however I

> >don't think lying is good.

>

> You are not lying. You are saying " they are up to date " . Is that lie?

>

> If you say they aren't vaccinated or you don't vaccinate you

> better

> be ready for the harrassment that comes with it and the fact

> that

> your child will be treated differently.

>

> > Maybe you should call your local ER/Hospital and

> >see what their policy is before you find yourself ever down

> that road. We

> >called two of my local hospitals and one wouldn't even bat an

> eye and the

> >other says that we should vaccinate to prevent problems. I know which

> >hospital I will be going to if I need any of their services..

>

> All depends on doctor or nurse you run into

> Sheri

>

Posted March 20, 2008 · March 20, 2008

In a message dated 3/20/2008 10:38:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

jimokelly@... writes:

The newspaper at this point has refused to print my response to this

ignorant man(at least when it comes to health) and is currently

being reviewed bu upper management.

So much for free speech. So what are they saying, that he is the " Health

expert " and nothing you say could possibly be more relevant or important?

That's what it sounds like to me.

I am sure hope that you are able to get your opinions heard elsewhere

though. Do you post a lot on the web?

Mavis

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Posted March 20, 2008 · March 20, 2008

When Kendall was born I was completely comsumed as well, so much so that her hip

dysplasia took a back seat to the vaccination decision and I again lacked in my

research but that's a whole other nightmare =)

I think people need to hear from people who are rejecting vaccinations. I had a

long road convincing my husband. Now my husband and parents are very supportive

and actually interested in all the news surrounding vaccinations. They come to

me with questions now (though I'm no expert). And now that my family talks about

the subject, they run into more and more people who don't vax and it just makes

them more comfortable with my decision. We need to speak out, not just to reach

the people who haven't considered not vaccinating, but to the people on the

fence, the people who have " heard something bad about them but haven't looked

into it " . And most importantly, we need to speak out against the medical

community so that makes this decision so difficult.

Marie Quisenberry

leesamarie2828@...

RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was

> New Member

>

> At 01:24 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

> >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:17 PM

> >

> >But if, when you go into an ER, they ask if she is up to date with

> >her vaccines - just say yes. She is according to your schedule.

> >Don't even discuss it. Just say she is up to date. PERIOD. They

> >don't need to know anything else. The have been pushed to push

> >vaccines and ask these questions.

> >

> >What if they don't look at something because you say that they

> are all

> >vaccinated.

>

> You aren't saying they are vaccinated

> You are saying they are up to date

> And the hospital does not have your vaccination records (or non-

> vax

> record) from Ped

>

> > I am new to this so I don't know all the ins and outs however I

> >don't think lying is good.

>

> You are not lying. You are saying " they are up to date " . Is that lie?

>

> If you say they aren't vaccinated or you don't vaccinate you

> better

> be ready for the harrassment that comes with it and the fact

> that

> your child will be treated differently.

>

> > Maybe you should call your local ER/Hospital and

> >see what their policy is before you find yourself ever down

> that road. We

> >called two of my local hospitals and one wouldn't even bat an

> eye and the

> >other says that we should vaccinate to prevent problems. I know which

> >hospital I will be going to if I need any of their services..

>

> All depends on doctor or nurse you run into

> Sheri

>

Posted March 20, 2008 · March 20, 2008

Amen to both of you.

I am a 30 year soldier in this war, who has re-educated many on the danger and

ineffectivess of blood poisoning.

I am currently in a battle with our local newspaper over printing my response to

a local Dr.s response to my orginial challenge

to the Allopathic medical profession.

I said I would pay $2000.00 to any Allopath who can prove that vaccines

prevented or protected anyone from a disease.

I simply stated, inject your vaccine into a body , if that body doesn't get the

disease in a few months or years or lifetime,

prove that the vaccine is the reason it didn't get the disease. Makes perfect

sense to me.

The local Dr.s response was it could not be proved that way and my challenge was

asinine and stupid.

The newspaper at this point has refused to print my response to this ignorant

man(at least when it comes to health) and is currently

being reviewed bu upper management.

Back in 1954 when they conducted that terrible experiment on the kids with

Salks poison(virus) and many came down with

polio or died, from the vaccine, I was one of 42 million who never got the

vaccine and never came down with polio.

It (the polio vaccine fraud) is a long story but to give you just one fact

infantile paralysis which is what it was called because

it mostly affected kids age 1 to 5. Salks vaccine was given to kids from 6 to 9.

Think they knew something?

Anyway keep up the fight, the truth is coming out, we will stop this vaccination

insanity before it is to late.

Jim O' N.W. Ind S.I.N.B.A.D. shots in body's are dangerous. vaclib.org

RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was

> New Member

>

> At 01:24 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

> >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:17 PM

> >

> >But if, when you go into an ER, they ask if she is up to date with

> >her vaccines - just say yes. She is according to your schedule.

> >Don't even discuss it. Just say she is up to date. PERIOD. They

> >don't need to know anything else. The have been pushed to push

> >vaccines and ask these questions.

> >

> >What if they don't look at something because you say that they

> are all

> >vaccinated.

>

> You aren't saying they are vaccinated

> You are saying they are up to date

> And the hospital does not have your vaccination records (or non-

> vax

> record) from Ped

>

> > I am new to this so I don't know all the ins and outs however I

> >don't think lying is good.

>

> You are not lying. You are saying " they are up to date " . Is that lie?

>

> If you say they aren't vaccinated or you don't vaccinate you

> better

> be ready for the harrassment that comes with it and the fact

> that

> your child will be treated differently.

>

> > Maybe you should call your local ER/Hospital and

> >see what their policy is before you find yourself ever down

> that road. We

> >called two of my local hospitals and one wouldn't even bat an

> eye and the

> >other says that we should vaccinate to prevent problems. I know which

> >hospital I will be going to if I need any of their services..

>

> All depends on doctor or nurse you run into

> Sheri

>

Posted March 20, 2008 · March 20, 2008

le,

Yes, we are moving long term. We will be in Asia for 2 yrs and then who knows

where....that is why I get a little concerned about not giving the vax for the

particular place we may go. I know the US does not have much of a problem but I

know other places have a higher risk for some diseases......

~Beth

RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was

> New Member

>

> At 01:24 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

> >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:17 PM

> >

> >But if, when you go into an ER, they ask if she is up to date with

> >her vaccines - just say yes. She is according to your schedule.

> >Don't even discuss it. Just say she is up to date. PERIOD. They

> >don't need to know anything else. The have been pushed to push

> >vaccines and ask these questions.

> >

> >What if they don't look at something because you say that they

> are all

> >vaccinated.

>

> You aren't saying they are vaccinated

> You are saying they are up to date

> And the hospital does not have your vaccination records (or non-

> vax

> record) from Ped

>

> > I am new to this so I don't know all the ins and outs however I

> >don't think lying is good.

>

> You are not lying. You are saying " they are up to date " . Is that lie?

>

> If you say they aren't vaccinated or you don't vaccinate you

> better

> be ready for the harrassment that comes with it and the fact

> that

> your child will be treated differently.

>

> > Maybe you should call your local ER/Hospital and

> >see what their policy is before you find yourself ever down

> that road. We

> >called two of my local hospitals and one wouldn't even bat an

> eye and the

> >other says that we should vaccinate to prevent problems. I know which

> >hospital I will be going to if I need any of their services..

>

> All depends on doctor or nurse you run into

> Sheri

>

Posted March 20, 2008 · March 20, 2008

Beth,

Wow, how exciting! I would feel the same as you though.

Good luck on your research and your move!

le

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Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:13 AM

Vaccinations

Subject: Re: RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was New

Member

le,

Yes, we are moving long term. We will be in Asia for 2 yrs and then who

knows where....that is why I get a little concerned about not giving the vax

for the particular place we may go. I know the US does not have much of a

problem but I know other places have a higher risk for some diseases......

~Beth

RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was

> New Member

>

> At 01:24 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

> >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:17 PM

> >

> >But if, when you go into an ER, they ask if she is up to date with

> >her vaccines - just say yes. She is according to your schedule.

> >Don't even discuss it. Just say she is up to date. PERIOD. They

> >don't need to know anything else. The have been pushed to push

> >vaccines and ask these questions.

> >

> >What if they don't look at something because you say that they

> are all

> >vaccinated.

>

> You aren't saying they are vaccinated

> You are saying they are up to date

> And the hospital does not have your vaccination records (or non-

> vax

> record) from Ped

>

> > I am new to this so I don't know all the ins and outs however I

> >don't think lying is good.

>

> You are not lying. You are saying " they are up to date " . Is that lie?

>

> If you say they aren't vaccinated or you don't vaccinate you

> better

> be ready for the harrassment that comes with it and the fact

> that

> your child will be treated differently.

>

> > Maybe you should call your local ER/Hospital and

> >see what their policy is before you find yourself ever down

> that road. We

> >called two of my local hospitals and one wouldn't even bat an

> eye and the

> >other says that we should vaccinate to prevent problems. I know which

> >hospital I will be going to if I need any of their services..

>

> All depends on doctor or nurse you run into

> Sheri

>

Posted March 20, 2008 · March 20, 2008

Hi again

The kind of info I have collected over the years is not what they want Q

public to know.

Allopaths also spend a ton of money on advertising. I do not have a site at

this time.

In the past 5 years I have mailed info packets to new mothers and business in

my county. About 6000.

Things are finally coming together, and I talk to people everyday and carry info

with me.

This is basically a grassroots one at a time movement.

My goal is to build a strong organization in my county and have the vaccine laws

repealed in my state.

Jim

Re: Re: The lies about vaccination was New Member

In a message dated 3/20/2008 10:38:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

jimokelly (DOT) com writes:

The newspaper at this point has refused to print my response to this

ignorant man(at least when it comes to health) and is currently

being reviewed bu upper management.

So much for free speech. So what are they saying, that he is the " Health

expert " and nothing you say could possibly be more relevant or important?

That's what it sounds like to me.

I am sure hope that you are able to get your opinions heard elsewhere

though. Do you post a lot on the web?

Mavis

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Home.

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Posted March 20, 2008 · March 20, 2008

>

>I do understand Sheri's point as far as just saying you are up to

>date rather than getting into a vaccine debate when you're in an

>emergency situation. Although, what is the point in allowing

>exemptions if people have to spend so much time lying or defending

>their decision not to vaccinate?

Exemptions have to do with school attendance, not with being able to

breath and live life in the world.

Going to an ER has nothing to do with vaccines for school attendance

and their exemptions.

They are of the mindset that they are required for living on the planet.

Sheri

Posted March 20, 2008 · March 20, 2008

At 09:56 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

>I was doing some searching on the internet and found some

>information thst scares me more than anything. Is it possible for

>your children to be taken away from you if you do not vax or if you

>stop vax altogether???

>

>~Beth

It is rare - some states and some neighborhoods and other things

often behind it also.

You can't live in fear of that and go ahead and vaccinate because of that fear.

That's why its important to show that you have put thought into

this. Some have an exemption on file at their peds..............some

carry one with them.

Even though the exemption is related to school attendance it does

show there are laws protecting people's choice regarding vaccines

Sheri

Posted March 20, 2008 · March 20, 2008

At 10:03 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

>I think they can in some states like land. Although I have heard that

>you go to jail, pay a fine, or get them vaxed. Some states do not care if

>you have a religious belief or not.

>

>le

The land issue was about not getting the vaccines or filing an exemption.

Those were people who did nothing, or paperwork got lost, etc. It

wasn't anyone who wanted to opt out and were refused.

land has exemptions just like everywhere else.

We had people there when that was happening to tell people facing

this whole thing in land about the exemptions and no one was interested.

Sheri

Posted March 20, 2008 · March 20, 2008

At 07:28 AM 3/20/2008, you wrote:

>When Kendall was born I was completely comsumed as well, so much so

>that her hip dysplasia took a back seat to the vaccination decision

>and I again lacked in my research but that's a whole other nightmare =)

>

>I think people need to hear from people who are rejecting

>vaccinations. I had a long road convincing my husband. Now my

>husband and parents are very supportive and actually interested in

>all the news surrounding vaccinations. They come to me with

>questions now (though I'm no expert). And now that my family talks

>about the subject, they run into more and more people who don't vax

>and it just makes them more comfortable with my decision. We need to

>speak out, not just to reach the people who haven't considered not

>vaccinating, but to the people on the fence, the people who have

> " heard something bad about them but haven't looked into it " . And

>most importantly, we need to speak out against the medical community

>so that makes this decision so difficult.

>

> Marie Quisenberry

>leesamarie2828@...

I agree totally if people are strong enough to do it.

But in the ER while your child is lying there hurt or ill, it may not

be the place. Your child will be treated differently, believe me,

and you don't need the added stress there.

But if you feel strong enough, of course fine

Sheri

Posted March 20, 2008 · March 20, 2008

Guess no one read my e-mail when I posted it two days ago, yes some people

had their children taken away from them, that is why I said I just say yes

and don't even flinch or bat an eye. I do have my exemption letter on file

at the Dr's office though so if anyone got nasty, I can say the doctor has

had it on file for the past 14 years.

Just keep the letter with you, like someone said here, you don't have to be

afraid. I just keep positive and determined, NO ONE is going to take my

kids away from me for that, NO ONE!

Western NY

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Member

At 09:56 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

>I was doing some searching on the internet and found some

>information thst scares me more than anything. Is it possible for

>your children to be taken away from you if you do not vax or if you

>stop vax altogether???

>

>~Beth

It is rare - some states and some neighborhoods and other things

often behind it also.

You can't live in fear of that and go ahead and vaccinate because of that

fear.

That's why its important to show that you have put thought into

this. Some have an exemption on file at their peds..............some

carry one with them.

Even though the exemption is related to school attendance it does

show there are laws protecting people's choice regarding vaccines

Sheri

Posted March 20, 2008 · March 20, 2008

To or anyone else in the group,

How do I begin to get this exemption letter and formal does it need to be?

What wording works best? I am in California and I have just begun my non-vaxxing

journey for my 14 month old daughter. At this point in time, she is in daycare

and when we started her in this daycare, she was " up to date " on her shots, but

now I have decided to get no more and don't know how this will affect my

daughter remaining in daycare. Does the exemption letter need to be legally

filed somehow? I have so many questions about it, I hope someone can just put me

in the right direction? Thank you!

Rina (California)

bluheron <bluheron@...> wrote:

Guess no one read my e-mail when I posted it two days ago, yes some

people

had their children taken away from them, that is why I said I just say yes

and don't even flinch or bat an eye. I do have my exemption letter on file

at the Dr's office though so if anyone got nasty, I can say the doctor has

had it on file for the past 14 years.

Just keep the letter with you, like someone said here, you don't have to be

afraid. I just keep positive and determined, NO ONE is going to take my

kids away from me for that, NO ONE!

Western NY

-- Re: RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was New

Member

At 09:56 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

>I was doing some searching on the internet and found some

>information thst scares me more than anything. Is it possible for

>your children to be taken away from you if you do not vax or if you

>stop vax altogether???

>

>~Beth

It is rare - some states and some neighborhoods and other things

often behind it also.

You can't live in fear of that and go ahead and vaccinate because of that

fear.

That's why its important to show that you have put thought into

this. Some have an exemption on file at their peds..............some

carry one with them.

Even though the exemption is related to school attendance it does

show there are laws protecting people's choice regarding vaccines

Sheri

Posted March 20, 2008 · March 20, 2008

Congrats on your pregnancy le! I'm 36 weeks along today, myself!

This is not a scientific opinion by any means, but I've noticed that

attitudes towards not vaxing seem to be a little more accepting, in

general, the further west you get in the nation. Seems like the

allopathic community gets more and more uptight about the whole issue

the further east you go. Again, not meant as a scientific opinion, and

not meant to offend anyone, just a conclusion I came to about a year

ago..

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 8:52 PM, le Hunt <daniellehunt@...> wrote:

>

> Like I said before, I am from the Bay Area where there are many non vaxers so

maybe I am

> just lucky and my hospital is more cooperative. I don't know. I can't

> honestly say since I have not been put in that position but to be honest, I

> pity the person who stops to care about my choice of not vaxxing while my

> child lays in front of her holding onto their life.

Posted March 20, 2008 · March 20, 2008

At 01:24 PM 3/20/2008, you wrote:

>Guess no one read my e-mail when I posted it two days ago, yes some people

>had their children taken away from them, that is why I said I just say yes

>and don't even flinch or bat an eye.

Yes, I read it and replied.

I say that is VERY VERY rare and there are often extenuating factors.

> I do have my exemption letter on file

>at the Dr's office though so if anyone got nasty, I can say the doctor has

>had it on file for the past 14 years.

>

>Just keep the letter with you, like someone said here, you don't have to be

>afraid. I just keep positive and determined, NO ONE is going to take my

>kids away from me for that, NO ONE!

>

>Western NY

Posted March 20, 2008 · March 20, 2008

Thank you! Congrats on yours as well! We are having a boy, what about you?

From listening and reading (even this group) I have to agree with that

statement. I think CA is pretty flexible in their approach to a few

different things and that is def one of them. I have a girlfriend in Boston

and she would have never even thought to see an acupuncturist or homeopathic

Dr. and that is and has been our way of life for years. It makes me

appreciate that I do live her but not to say we don't run across obstacles.

le

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Behalf Of Roberg

Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 1:12 PM

Vaccinations

Subject: Re: RE: Re: The lies about vaccination was New

Member

Congrats on your pregnancy le! I'm 36 weeks along today, myself!

This is not a scientific opinion by any means, but I've noticed that

attitudes towards not vaxing seem to be a little more accepting, in

general, the further west you get in the nation. Seems like the

allopathic community gets more and more uptight about the whole issue

the further east you go. Again, not meant as a scientific opinion, and

not meant to offend anyone, just a conclusion I came to about a year

ago..

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 8:52 PM, le Hunt <daniellehunt@

<mailto:daniellehunt%40comcast.net> comcast.net> wrote:

>

> Like I said before, I am from the Bay Area where there are many non vaxers

so maybe I am

> just lucky and my hospital is more cooperative. I don't know. I can't

> honestly say since I have not been put in that position but to be honest,

I

> pity the person who stops to care about my choice of not vaxxing while my

> child lays in front of her holding onto their life.

Posted March 20, 2008 · March 20, 2008

Sheri,

Are you talking about the little yellow immunization card they give you here

in California?

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

At 03:00 PM 3/20/2008, you wrote:

>To or anyone else in the group,

> How do I begin to get this exemption letter and formal does it

> need to be? What wording works best? I am in California and I have

> just begun my non-vaxxing journey for my 14 month old daughter. At

> this point in time, she is in daycare and when we started her in

> this daycare, she was " up to date " on her shots, but now I have

> decided to get no more and don't know how this will affect my

> daughter remaining in daycare. Does the exemption letter need to be

> legally filed somehow? I have so many questions about it, I hope

> someone can just put me in the right direction? Thank you!

>

> Rina (California)

Hi Rina

California is very easy - you just sign the back of the form they

give you to fill out about vaccines. Just say saying no, you don't want them.

Some people make a copy and put in their personal files, give to

babysitters, give to doctors to put in charts.

It is not necessary as the exemption is for school and not for living

on the planet.

Sheri

bluheron <bluheron@...> wrote:

Guess no one read my e-mail when I posted it two days ago,

yes some people

had their children taken away from them, that is why I said I just say yes

and don't even flinch or bat an eye. I do have my exemption letter on file

at the Dr's office though so if anyone got nasty, I can say the doctor has

had it on file for the past 14 years.

Rina Barillas

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