Re: How to interview a Ped.?

[Guest guest]

>

> This week I have several interviews lined up for finding a

> pediatrician. My husband and I have already decided not to

vaccinate.

> How do I approach this in the prenatal consultation? What types of

> questions should I ask or how should I approach the topic without

> sounding confrontational or like we'd be a difficult patient? We are

> interviewing mostly " mainstream " peds. except for one who I know

won't

> have a problem being vax-free - the others I don't have a gauge for

> where they stand. I'd appreciate any guidance on how to broach the

> subject without a major confrontation.

>

> Thank you!

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

I would be upfront first off and tell the ped you won't be vaccinating and ask

how they feel about it. You'll know by the response if this is someone you want

to deal with. They'll expect you to come in for all the well-baby checks, which

are basically vaccination visits so be prepared to face defending yourself each

time. I actually had more problems with the nurses than the doctors.

I have to be honest, I never interviewed any pediatricians, just went with

recommendations from friends because first and foremost, I want a good

diagostician. I rarely take their advice for the actual treatments. Good luck.

Winnie

How to interview a Ped.?

Vaccinations

> This week I have several interviews lined up for finding a

> pediatrician. My husband and I have already decided not to

> vaccinate.

> How do I approach this in the prenatal consultation? What types

> of

> questions should I ask or how should I approach the topic

> without

> sounding confrontational or like we'd be a difficult patient? We

> are

> interviewing mostly " mainstream " peds. except for one who I know

> won't

> have a problem being vax-free - the others I don't have a gauge

> for

> where they stand. I'd appreciate any guidance on how to broach

> the

> subject without a major confrontation.

>

> Thank you!

> Amy

>

>

[Guest guest]

I only interviewed one ped before the one that I have now. I simply

asked what her view on vaccines was and what her feeling would be if I

wanted to selectively vaccinate/delay/not vax. My current ped held

an " open evening " for parents to come in and ask questions. I was

chicken and waited until someone else asked the question on vaccines.

He basically said it was the parents' decision and he would support it.

I have a 3.5 YO DS who has never been vaxed and I was never given any

trouble about it.

Magda

[Guest guest]

Well, poohey on that! We sat down and the doctor went right into his canned

speech which

included an affirmation that his practice adheres to the AAP vaccinations and

thinks they

have saved the world from annihilation. I did try to see if he would do delayed

or selective

just so I can get me and my baby discharged from the hospital but he kept

shooting DH

and I down. On to ped. # 2 tomorrow. We are interviewing sseveral because the

majority of

our friends with kids vaccinate and when in conversations we mention we question

vaccinations we get blank stares :-( Not that I think I'm in any way enlightened

but don't

people read the news or watch the news?

>

> I only interviewed one ped before the one that I have now. I simply

> asked what her view on vaccines was and what her feeling would be if I

> wanted to selectively vaccinate/delay/not vax. My current ped held

> an " open evening " for parents to come in and ask questions. I was

> chicken and waited until someone else asked the question on vaccines.

> He basically said it was the parents' decision and he would support it.

> I have a 3.5 YO DS who has never been vaxed and I was never given any

> trouble about it.

> Magda

>

[Guest guest]

Wait.... I'm confused... so you and your baby can be released from the

hospital? Are you expecting a baby? If so, a ped is not what you need at

this point (I'd question whether you need one at all, really). Your OB or

Midwife can take care of the baby for the first six weeks, and most likely

you can fill out all the necessary paperwork at the hospital in order to

waive vaccinations at birth.

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 6:01 PM, alamazurowski <alamazurowski@...>

wrote:

>

>

> Well, poohey on that! We sat down and the doctor went right into his

canned speech which

> included an affirmation that his practice adheres to the AAP vaccinations

and thinks they

> have saved the world from annihilation. I did try to see if he would do

delayed or selective

> just so I can get me and my baby discharged from the hospital but he kept

shooting DH

> and I down. On to ped. # 2 tomorrow. We are interviewing sseveral because

the majority of

> our friends with kids vaccinate and when in conversations we mention we

question

> vaccinations we get blank stares :-( Not that I think I'm in any way

enlightened but don't

> people read the news or watch the news?

[Guest guest]

Interesting, I'll have to inquire about that at my next drs. appt. I

understood it as that in order for the hospital to release us, a

ped. has to give a thumbs up within 12 hours of birth.....thanks for

the tip!

> >

> >

> > Well, poohey on that! We sat down and the doctor went right into

his

> canned speech which

> > included an affirmation that his practice adheres to the AAP

vaccinations

> and thinks they

> > have saved the world from annihilation. I did try to see if he

would do

> delayed or selective

> > just so I can get me and my baby discharged from the hospital

but he kept

> shooting DH

> > and I down. On to ped. # 2 tomorrow. We are interviewing

sseveral because

> the majority of

> > our friends with kids vaccinate and when in conversations we

mention we

> question

> > vaccinations we get blank stares :-( Not that I think I'm in any

way

> enlightened but don't

> > people read the news or watch the news?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 07:01 PM 3/18/2008, you wrote:

>Well, poohey on that! We sat down and the doctor went right into his

>canned speech which

>included an affirmation that his practice adheres to the AAP

>vaccinations and thinks they

>have saved the world from annihilation. I did try to see if he would

>do delayed or selective

>just so I can get me and my baby discharged from the hospital but he

>kept shooting DH

>and I down. On to ped. # 2 tomorrow. We are interviewing sseveral

>because the majority of

>our friends with kids vaccinate and when in conversations we mention

>we question

>vaccinations we get blank stares :-( Not that I think I'm in any way

>enlightened but don't

>people read the news or watch the news?

There is this huge fog that goes over people- I think it is from

brainwashing and being too busy to think.

Sheri

[Guest guest]

Yes a dco needs to discharge you, but there are peds on call that can

do that for you. My family doc did not have rights at the hospital I

gave birth at so the kiddos saw the ped on call and he discharged both

of them and then we went to our 2 week appointment with the family doc

later. No big deal except they did question me several times about

not giving the hep B shot and I just stood firm and made sure DH or I

went with the babe every where so they couldn't " accidentally " give

them the shot.

> > >

> > >

> > > Well, poohey on that! We sat down and the doctor went right into

> his

> > canned speech which

> > > included an affirmation that his practice adheres to the AAP

> vaccinations

> > and thinks they

> > > have saved the world from annihilation. I did try to see if he

> would do

> > delayed or selective

> > > just so I can get me and my baby discharged from the hospital

> but he kept

> > shooting DH

> > > and I down. On to ped. # 2 tomorrow. We are interviewing

> sseveral because

> > the majority of

> > > our friends with kids vaccinate and when in conversations we

> mention we

> > question

> > > vaccinations we get blank stares :-( Not that I think I'm in any

> way

> > enlightened but don't

> > > people read the news or watch the news?

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Oh my gosh! That is exactly how I feel! We left our ped because since

the first time we went there, he went into the whole intimidation

tactics about vax's and that was that. And we would be dropped if we

didn't conform to their practice. People think we are nuts about the

whole non-vax thing and I totally agree that I think it IS

brainwashing and they just don't take enough time to do research

because the do what the doc's tell them and they can't break away

from their million " reality " shows to join the real reality of their

child's health and well being.

> >Well, poohey on that! We sat down and the doctor went right into

his

> >canned speech which

> >included an affirmation that his practice adheres to the AAP

> >vaccinations and thinks they

> >have saved the world from annihilation. I did try to see if he

would

> >do delayed or selective

> >just so I can get me and my baby discharged from the hospital but

he

> >kept shooting DH

> >and I down. On to ped. # 2 tomorrow. We are interviewing sseveral

> >because the majority of

> >our friends with kids vaccinate and when in conversations we

mention

> >we question

> >vaccinations we get blank stares :-( Not that I think I'm in any

way

> >enlightened but don't

> >people read the news or watch the news?

>

>

> There is this huge fog that goes over people- I think it is from

> brainwashing and being too busy to think.

> Sheri

>

[Guest guest]

Keep in mind, (at least it's my understanding) that doctors have to

have a certain percentage of clientele that vaccinate, or their

med-mal insurance will drop them. I don't know that first hand, but I

heard it somewhere along the way in my research. There may even be

other " doctor police " that threaten their license if their ratios drop

too low, not quite sure. Between the panic over that, plus being

brainwashed, it's no wonder most docs (but not all) get so defensive

about it.

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:58 PM, (Coates)

<ladams9200@...> wrote:

>

> Oh my gosh! That is exactly how I feel! We left our ped because since

> the first time we went there, he went into the whole intimidation

> tactics about vax's and that was that. And we would be dropped if we

> didn't conform to their practice. People think we are nuts about the

> whole non-vax thing and I totally agree that I think it IS

> brainwashing and they just don't take enough time to do research

> because the do what the doc's tell them and they can't break away

> from their million " reality " shows to join the real reality of their

> child's health and well being.

[Guest guest]

At 04:36 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

>Keep in mind, (at least it's my understanding) that doctors have to

>have a certain percentage of clientele that vaccinate, or their

>med-mal insurance will drop them. I don't know that first hand, but I

>heard it somewhere along the way in my research. There may even be

>other " doctor police " that threaten their license if their ratios drop

>too low, not quite sure. Between the panic over that, plus being

>brainwashed, it's no wonder most docs (but not all) get so defensive

>about it.

Hi

I don't think that is true. I've tried to find out what incentives

there might be but there don't seem to be any

Just brainwashing and 'how dare you question god' kind of thinking.

In UK they get money for % of compliant but not in US

If anyone has found out differently, for sure, email me the facts

Sheri

[Guest guest]

Ah, okay... I wasn't completely sure; maybe it was someone from the UK

that had mentioned that to me.

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

> At 04:36 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

> >Keep in mind, (at least it's my understanding) that doctors have to

> >have a certain percentage of clientele that vaccinate, or their

> >med-mal insurance will drop them. I don't know that first hand, but I

> >heard it somewhere along the way in my research. There may even be

> >other " doctor police " that threaten their license if their ratios drop

> >too low, not quite sure. Between the panic over that, plus being

> >brainwashed, it's no wonder most docs (but not all) get so defensive

> >about it.

>

> Hi

> I don't think that is true. I've tried to find out what incentives

> there might be but there don't seem to be any

> Just brainwashing and 'how dare you question god' kind of thinking.

>

> In UK they get money for % of compliant but not in US

>

> If anyone has found out differently, for sure, email me the facts

> Sheri

[Guest guest]

Try Mothering Dot Commune http://mothering.com/discussions and go to

Find Your Tribe. You can find a forum for your state/area. Ask about

doctors.

Recommendations are the best! I'm in a MOMS Club, and I found my amazing

pediatrician through them. I'm the only one that I know of who doesn't

vax (others select or delay) but I asked specifically for dr's who are

" open-minded about vaccines " . I got two recommendations.

Whenever anyone puts down " allopaths " I think of how fortunate I am to

have a wonderful pediatrician who truly believes that parents are the

best decision makers in their children's health. (I also think about my

amazing pain management neurologist, who is now in Virginia. I miss him!)

~Robyn

alamazurowski wrote:

>

> This week I have several interviews lined up for finding a

> pediatrician. My husband and I have already decided not to vaccinate.

> How do I approach this in the prenatal consultation? What types of

> questions should I ask or how should I approach the topic without

> sounding confrontational or like we'd be a difficult patient? We are

> interviewing mostly " mainstream " peds. except for one who I know won't

> have a problem being vax-free - the others I don't have a gauge for

> where they stand. I'd appreciate any guidance on how to broach the

> subject without a major confrontation.

>

> Thank you!

> Amy

>

>

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