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>From: " Kirby " <dkirby@...>

Interesting analysis from an extremely well connected, high-powered

official inside the Beltway. This was sent to me last night. .

I am now getting all kinds of fascinating messages from all over the world,

ever since the Poling story aired.

Who knew the woodwork could hold so much stuff?

= DK

I've thought about why the govt would concede. You know there were many

many meetings between govt and pharma and all concerned before this

concession. It was no oversight or accident. And I believe it's because

they know they had lost this strong case (with the dad a neurologist no

less) and felt like if they " Lost " one of the " landmark " group of autism

cases it would make a bigger splash/precedent. But if they " admitted " it

(rather than " lost " it) and get it out of the big group of autism test

cases, they could spin it as a strange " exception " not a " precedent " etc.

Either way they were screwed, so they went for the path that they hoped

would make the least splash (knowing it would make SOME splash either way).

They're probably right. If a " decision " had come down in vaccine court that

the govt " lost " a test case it might have been even bigger -- and more

difficult to spin. But it looks like either way the genie is out of the

bottle. They know this.

I wish I could get to all those emails flying now as to the plans= on what

to do. Of course that's assuming they haven't had a plan ready for a long

long time. I believe they've known since 99 this was coming (if not

earlier) and have been working on strategy and presentation for when it all

came out.

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I can promise you before that "ruling" became news, every employee of any pharmaceutical company that had any relation to "vaccines", whether it be doctors, chemists, manager, sales representatives or inside assistants, were "prepped" on what to say and how to respond. This was no surprise to them and it was very VERY carefully orchestrated. And I believe they carefully chose the family that would make the precedent here, it would have been quite difficult to discredit a Doctor (neurologist, no less), and a nurse who is also an attorney. I think they knew it just wasn't looking good for them with two medical parents, and one who also knew and practiced the law. The government would have NEVER made a move/decision without pharma's *blessing*. And the term "autism like symptoms" was another way to shift responsibility to the parents defective DNA. We ALL know it had little, if anything at all, to do with

that. To admit that vaccines CAUSED autism.....well, the panic that would have ensued would have become a national emergency. Not that I don't believe that this epidemic is not a national emergency, but that's conversation for another day. Every vaccine pharmaceutical sales rep spent the past weekends in training meetings, telling them how to handle "difficult questions" and being told to target their largest doctors offices, hospitals and clinics. More than likely there are hand outs, PI's by the boatloads, and CDC information blurbs being left in every office and patient area on how safe vaccines are, and tactfully pointing the finger at "those parents". I know they will somehow spin this in their favor. They spin everything so it then in turn makes them MORE money. I worked on the clinical trial for duloxetine several years back (we now know this compound as

"Cymbalta"). A young college student signed up for the clinical trial as part of the "control group". This beautiful young lady had no history of mental illness personally or in her family. She was given, with her consent, a larger than typical/recommended dose of this trial drug and then taken off without a withdrawl period. She showed up in the office for her weekly scheduled visit and hung herself in the bathroom. I remember the hysteria. NOT because of the loss of a young life, but because of the FEAR that the FDA would never approve the drug. That is officially when I left the field. It was worse than sickening. What they did was worse than disgraceful. I vowed that I could never associate myself with that level of dishonesty again. My guess is we'll have a President in the White House that will make vaccines mandatory. The word is out there, and in reality the

damage HAS been done. Unless the government now backs pharma by making vaccines mandatory with no room for exemption, they know their wallets are going to get hit big time. And we all know there's no way they are going to sit back and allow that to happen. God bless us all........ Sophia Kirby <dkirby@...> wrote: Interesting analysis from an extremely well connected, high-powered official inside the Beltway. This was sent to me last night. . I am now getting all kinds of fascinating messages from all over the world, ever since the Poling story aired. Who knew the woodwork could hold so much stuff? = DK I've thought about why the govt would concede. You know there were many many meetings between govt and pharma and all concerned before this concession. It was no oversight or accident. And I believe it's because they know

they had lost this strong case (with the dad a neurologist no less) and felt like if they "Lost" one of the "landmark" group of autism cases it would make a bigger splash/precedent. But if they "admitted" it (rather than "lost" it) and get it out of the big group of autism test cases, they could spin it as a strange "exception" not a "precedent" etc. Either way they were screwed, so they went for the path that they hoped would make the least splash (knowing it would make SOME splash either way). They're probably right. If a "decision" had come down in vaccine court

that the govt "lost" a test case it might have been even bigger -- and more difficult to spin. But it looks like either way the genie is out of the bottle. They know this. I wish I could get to all those emails flying now as to the plans= on what to do. Of course that's assuming they haven't had a plan ready for a long long time. I believe they've known since 99 this was coming (if not earlier) and have been working on strategy and presentation for when it all came out. Sophiahttp://justamom2three.blogspot.com/

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On Mar 9, 2008, at 9:39 PM, Sophia wrote:

> And the term " autism like symptoms " was another way to shift

> responsibility to the parents defective DNA.

What I want to know is why the mother did not - on national live

TV no less (if indeed the Gerbil said this in their presense - I

haven't seen the clip myself) - tell her there is NO SUCH thing as

" autism-like-symptoms, *as per the DSM-IV*. Why the " fact-checkers "

in the various news outlets don't do this.. Is understandable, given

that they all have ties to pharma and are probably all scared of

" endangering public health "

Jim

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On Mar 9, 2008, at 11:43 PM, L. T wrote:

> This is the only part of the puzzle that doesn't fit.

> (The rates going up thimerasol out)

>

Another possiblity is that the " trace " thimerisol and the " not-so-

trace " aluminum are acting synergistically (what's the word for

" negative synergy " ?) Aluminum also does nasty things with fluroide

ions forming fluoro-aluminide complexes form what I've read - messes

up G-protein signaling for one, and thyroid hormone action/regulation

at the cellular level for another (possibly at the mitochondrial

level, leading to mito disorder?)

Or unless it's not the thimerisol - or not primarily. While I'm

sure the mercury plays a part, it doesn't seem like it could do

*that* much damage. What I think is more likely is that there is

massive immunological damage done by the vaccinations themselves (I'm

almost positive that you'd find a higher autism rate among kids who

had multiple shots per visit vs ones who didn't - Hannah fits the

pattern, so does the MMR (and DTP?) jab itself.

I also think the metal metabolism is destroyed or severely

compromised, so 1) the " small " amounts of mercury do more damage, 2)

" trace " metals from the environment are accumulated and do more

damage than in a normal-metal-metabolism-person, and 3) the metals we

get from foods themselves build up, and the raios get screwed up (in

additioion to the fact that metals that aren't supposed to be there

AT ALL like Hg and Cd screwe up excretion rates of other metals)

I wonder if this is part of the reason why GFCFSF diets work? Not

only does GFCFSF diets remove some of the most " favored " targets of a

confused immune system, but the removal of these foods also changes

the metal balance that the kid is taking in - I've heard that butter

for instance is high in chromium (I think.. Don't ask my *why* it's

high in chromium!) Wheat bread and maybe white bread has selenium.

Cereals are fortified with iron I think (haven't eaten cereals myself

in 2.5 years.. Could this lead to iron overload in NTs? BIG PROBLEM

potentially) I don't know what other metals are in gluten/casein

foods and soy.

Jim