Re: According to NY Times, we are parasites

[Guest guest]

It's sad and breaks my heart for those other kids BUT how is that not abuse and

neglect?

And on the note that adults aren't fully vaccinated, a lot of DOCTORS aren't up

to date on

their vaccinations. Even nurses, I believe don't necessarily keep up to date.

They make sure

you've got everything when you hire on but after that I've never seen or heard

of anyone

making sure things are up to date; unless you're a traveler but that's an egg of

a different

color. And you don't see and hear about epidemics of say measles going through

the adult

population, but I bet you will for our kids generation and chicken pox as that

vax wears

off. And, I believe not every country in Europe vax against everything like we

do here and

huge epidemics and kids dieing from complications aren't widespread (maybe they

are and

you don't hear about them but I doubt it). It just makes no sense as to how many

vax's are

given to American kids and the schedule they're on. What newborn is at risk for

Hep B?

Even if the baby is in a house with someone who has Hep B (and people do w/o

knowing

it) the risk of transmission is very very minute. Unless you're somehow sharing

bodily

fluids. It's so money based. Sorry, small rant, I feel better.~doris

>

> That is truly sad. Maybe on some level she's still trying to justify that the

shots were

okay to alleviate any guilt over it. Losing a child, I'm sure, affected her

views in ways we

can't know.

>

> Winnie

>

[Guest guest]

I agree, it's all about money. I have to say, though, I'm not worried about

outbreaks when the vaccinves wear off because I don't think the vaccines are

working to prevent to disease to begin with.

Winnie

Re: According to NY Times, we are " parasites "

Vaccinations

> It's sad and breaks my heart for those other kids BUT how is

> that not abuse and neglect?

>

> And on the note that adults aren't fully vaccinated, a lot of

> DOCTORS aren't up to date on

> their vaccinations. Even nurses, I believe don't necessarily

> keep up to date. They make sure

> you've got everything when you hire on but after that I've never

> seen or heard of anyone

> making sure things are up to date; unless you're a traveler but

> that's an egg of a different

> color. And you don't see and hear about epidemics of say measles

> going through the adult

> population, but I bet you will for our kids generation and

> chicken pox as that vax wears

> off. And, I believe not every country in Europe vax against

> everything like we do here and

> huge epidemics and kids dieing from complications aren't

> widespread (maybe they are and

> you don't hear about them but I doubt it). It just makes no

> sense as to how many vax's are

> given to American kids and the schedule they're on. What newborn

> is at risk for Hep B?

> Even if the baby is in a house with someone who has Hep B (and

> people do w/o knowing

> it) the risk of transmission is very very minute. Unless you're

> somehow sharing bodily

> fluids. It's so money based. Sorry, small rant, I feel better.~doris

>

>

> >

> > That is truly sad. Maybe on some level she's still trying to

> justify that the shots were

> okay to alleviate any guilt over it. Losing a child, I'm sure,

> affected her views in ways we

> can't know.

> >

> > Winnie

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I'm mostly a lurker here, but reading this article incensed me! I

wanted to leave a comment but I can't figure out how to do it. Does

anyone know how to leave comments at the New York Times?

I found another discussion of this same article at

http://accedasadcuriam.wordpress.com/

but I really want to leave a comment at the original.

zpapacarroll

>

> The article I am referring to came out yesterday, March 20, 2008

> Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/21/us/21vaccine.html

> " Public Health Risk Seen as Parents Reject Vaccines "

>

> Quoted from the article:

> " The very success of immunizations has turned out to be an Achilles'

> heel, " said Dr. Mark Sawyer, a pediatrician and infectious disease

> specialist at Rady Children's Hospital in San Diego. " Most of these

> parents have never seen measles, and don't realize it could be a bad

> disease so they turn their concerns to unfounded risks. They do not

> perceive risk of the disease but perceive risk of the vaccine. "

>

> Dr. Sawyer and the vast majority of pediatricians believe strongly

> that vaccinations are the cornerstone of sound public health. Many

> doctors view the so-called exempters as parasites, of a sort,

> benefiting from the otherwise inoculated majority. "

> --------

>

> I don't consider it " sound public health " to load up the vaccines with

> toxins that cause innumerable side-effects, Autism, Alzheimer's

> Disease, auto-immune disorders, allergies, etc...(and that's just the

> A-list)!

>

> Kris4

>