Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 I also feed both of my kiddos soy milk every day. This is the first I have heard about it not being good... My son is allergic to dairy and I am trying to avoid animal products... What about rice milk? I have never seen coconut milk or oat milk before, but I have seen rice milk, that is why I ask about that specifically... Thanks! Mara > > I keep hearing on this site in suttle ways, that some parents are regretting giving their children soy in any form??? My 14 month old didn't take too well to whole milk at 1 so we switched her to soy milk and it worked wonders on her tummy! What is the problem with soy? > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 We're dairy free, and I wasn't able to breast feed very long. My entire family drinks soy milk, occasionally. Rice milk made my daughter really hyper, she didn't like hemp milk, and I don't like the idea of drinking milk from another animal (*part* of the reason we're dairy free). I think you have to choose what works best for your family and take into consideration what you are using it for and how much. I raised my daughter on soy formula, and switched her over to soy milk at one year. I didn't like it, but I figured compared to my other choices, this was best for my family. Now we use it in our cereal, or in recipes that call for milk. Not much, so I've decided just in small amounts it won't be horrible. Out of all the horrible things out there that people consume every day, I decided I just have to pick my battles and do the best I can. I haven't tried coconut milk or oat milk, but now that dd isn't on a bottle anymore I just eliminated it as a bulk of her diet. I'm hoping to be able to breast feed better in the future, but at least there are more options... : ) On Mar 24, 2008, at 2:05 PM, marasheehan wrote: > I also feed both of my kiddos soy milk every day. This is the first I > have heard about it not being good... My son is allergic to dairy > and I am trying to avoid animal products... What about rice milk? I > have never seen coconut milk or oat milk before, but I have seen rice > milk, that is why I ask about that specifically... > > Thanks! > Mara > > > > > > I keep hearing on this site in suttle ways, that some parents are > regretting giving their children soy in any form??? My 14 month old > didn't take too well to whole milk at 1 so we switched her to soy milk > and it worked wonders on her tummy! What is the problem with soy? > > > > --------------------------------- > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 My kiddos cannot have dairy either. I have them drink rice or almond milk for the majority of their milk intake. While I don't have them drink soy milk, I do let them have other things containing soy - soy cheese, soy pudding, etc. I've done a lot of research into soy in the process of getting my nutrition degree and while everyone has their opinion, I personally don't think it's the evil substance it's made out to be. It has some very good things in it, but with everything, moderation is the key. I feel that letting my kids drink soy milk would be giving them too much soy, but I feel that lower amounts are not harmful and give good nutrients. I gave my oldest son soy formula when he was a baby and I will feed soy formula to future babies if necessary - it's far better than cow's milk formula, but that is my own opinion and experience with cow's milk. You will find studies that say that soy formula is awful for babies and others that say that cow's milk formula is awful. If you can't breastfeed, you're really up a creek. Relax, do your research and make up your own mind, then just do it and let go of the worry - it'll eat right through you. There are opinions everywhere and if you listened to them all, you'd be eating nothing at all. If it's working for your kids, keep doing it. There's no need to get excited over a few opinions about soy. For every well-researched, well thought out opinion on soy, there is another just as well-researched, well thought out opinion in the other direction. You need to do your own research and decide what's right for you. -- Roni Bergerson Independent Monavie Distributor Celebrate Good Health with Monavie! http://www.mymonavie.com/jandrbergerson/ -------------- Original message -------------- From: " marasheehan " <marasheehan@...> I also feed both of my kiddos soy milk every day. This is the first I have heard about it not being good... My son is allergic to dairy and I am trying to avoid animal products... What about rice milk? I have never seen coconut milk or oat milk before, but I have seen rice milk, that is why I ask about that specifically... Thanks! Mara > > I keep hearing on this site in suttle ways, that some parents are regretting giving their children soy in any form??? My 14 month old didn't take too well to whole milk at 1 so we switched her to soy milk and it worked wonders on her tummy! What is the problem with soy? > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 I don't know if this has already been said, but anyone who eats soy or feeds it to their family should read The Whole Soy Story by Kaayla T. http://www.wholesoystory.com/ I used to drink soy milk, eat tofu, and eat soy burgers all the time cause I thought they were healthy because it said so on the packages. I first read about soys dangers on westonaprice.org and on the mercola web site and it was shocking to me. I also first read about how vaccines are dangerous and ineffective on those same sites, which was also shocking to me. Last year I did one of my thesis papers on the dangers of soy so I did some pretty in depth research on the subject and the whole soy industry is very similar to the pharma industry with all its payoffs. Also, many doctors are seeing new cancers caused entirely by soy. My sister's close friend has a sister who is a health nut. She eats healthy (what she thinks of as healthy anyways,) with tons of soy to replace meat and exercises every single day and is still quite young, however, a few months ago she was diagnosed with breast cancer and her oncologist told her it is a type of cancer he sees with patients who overconsume soy. Pretty scary. I understand some people are either vegan or vegetarian for different reasons and soy foods look like a wonderful alternative to meat. While I was eating soy foods, I was doing it because I thought meat was unhealthy and that cholesterol was bad. Luckily I discovered that it is actually the other way around (I could not stand the taste of soy.) Thanks to mostly the westonaprice website and many many books, I now eat whole natural foods, like butter, eggs, natural meats, and raw dairy foods (most people avoid these things like they are going to die if eat them even once,) and am much healthier and thinner for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Roni, where do you purchase almond and rice milk and how nutritous are they? Calcium, vitamins A and D? Please let me know! Thank You, Rina calladragonlily@... wrote: My kiddos cannot have dairy either. I have them drink rice or almond milk for the majority of their milk intake. While I don't have them drink soy milk, I do let them have other things containing soy - soy cheese, soy pudding, etc. I've done a lot of research into soy in the process of getting my nutrition degree and while everyone has their opinion, I personally don't think it's the evil substance it's made out to be. It has some very good things in it, but with everything, moderation is the key. I feel that letting my kids drink soy milk would be giving them too much soy, but I feel that lower amounts are not harmful and give good nutrients. I gave my oldest son soy formula when he was a baby and I will feed soy formula to future babies if necessary - it's far better than cow's milk formula, but that is my own opinion and experience with cow's milk. You will find studies that say that soy formula is awful for babies and others that say that cow's milk formula is awful. If you can't breastfeed, you're really up a creek. Relax, do your research and make up your own mind, then just do it and let go of the worry - it'll eat right through you. There are opinions everywhere and if you listened to them all, you'd be eating nothing at all. If it's working for your kids, keep doing it. There's no need to get excited over a few opinions about soy. For every well-researched, well thought out opinion on soy, there is another just as well-researched, well thought out opinion in the other direction. You need to do your own research and decide what's right for you. -- Roni Bergerson Independent Monavie Distributor Celebrate Good Health with Monavie! http://www.mymonavie.com/jandrbergerson/ -------------- Original message -------------- From: " marasheehan " <marasheehan@...> I also feed both of my kiddos soy milk every day. This is the first I have heard about it not being good... My son is allergic to dairy and I am trying to avoid animal products... What about rice milk? I have never seen coconut milk or oat milk before, but I have seen rice milk, that is why I ask about that specifically... Thanks! Mara > > I keep hearing on this site in suttle ways, that some parents are regretting giving their children soy in any form??? My 14 month old didn't take too well to whole milk at 1 so we switched her to soy milk and it worked wonders on her tummy! What is the problem with soy? > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 amazing Vida, thank you for that! The only soy thing my daughter consumes is her milk. It just seemed to do better on her tummy. When I read stuff here and there about soy, it caused me to ask more questions and I want to find other alternatives to milk because she is still drinking a bottle and she loves her soy milk! Vida Khan <vidamarino@...> wrote: I don't know if this has already been said, but anyone who eats soy or feeds it to their family should read The Whole Soy Story by Kaayla T. http://www.wholesoystory.com/ I used to drink soy milk, eat tofu, and eat soy burgers all the time cause I thought they were healthy because it said so on the packages. I first read about soys dangers on westonaprice.org and on the mercola web site and it was shocking to me. I also first read about how vaccines are dangerous and ineffective on those same sites, which was also shocking to me. Last year I did one of my thesis papers on the dangers of soy so I did some pretty in depth research on the subject and the whole soy industry is very similar to the pharma industry with all its payoffs. Also, many doctors are seeing new cancers caused entirely by soy. My sister's close friend has a sister who is a health nut. She eats healthy (what she thinks of as healthy anyways,) with tons of soy to replace meat and exercises every single day and is still quite young, however, a few months ago she was diagnosed with breast cancer and her oncologist told her it is a type of cancer he sees with patients who overconsume soy. Pretty scary. I understand some people are either vegan or vegetarian for different reasons and soy foods look like a wonderful alternative to meat. While I was eating soy foods, I was doing it because I thought meat was unhealthy and that cholesterol was bad. Luckily I discovered that it is actually the other way around (I could not stand the taste of soy.) Thanks to mostly the westonaprice website and many many books, I now eat whole natural foods, like butter, eggs, natural meats, and raw dairy foods (most people avoid these things like they are going to die if eat them even once,) and am much healthier and thinner for it. Rina Barillas __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 I get them both at my food co-op. We use rice milk for cooking, on cereal, etc and almond milk for the " glass of milk " routine since rice milk is very watery and doesn't have a great mouth feel. Here's the rice milk I use http://www.westsoy.biz/products/product/1127.php And here's the almond milk I use http://www.bluediamond.com/shop/natural/almondBreeze32.cfm -- Roni Bergerson Independent Monavie Distributor Celebrate Good Health with Monavie! http://www.mymonavie.com/jandrbergerson/ -------------- Original message -------------- From: Rina Barillas <kisses4chuly@...> Roni, where do you purchase almond and rice milk and how nutritous are they? Calcium, vitamins A and D? Please let me know! Thank You, Rina calladragonlily@... wrote: My kiddos cannot have dairy either. I have them drink rice or almond milk for the majority of their milk intake. While I don't have them drink soy milk, I do let them have other things containing soy - soy cheese, soy pudding, etc. I've done a lot of research into soy in the process of getting my nutrition degree and while everyone has their opinion, I personally don't think it's the evil substance it's made out to be. It has some very good things in it, but with everything, moderation is the key. I feel that letting my kids drink soy milk would be giving them too much soy, but I feel that lower amounts are not harmful and give good nutrients. I gave my oldest son soy formula when he was a baby and I will feed soy formula to future babies if necessary - it's far better than cow's milk formula, but that is my own opinion and experience with cow's milk. You will find studies that say that soy formula is awful for babies and others that say that cow's milk formula is awful. If you can't breastfeed, you're really up a creek. Relax, do your research and make up your own mind, then just do it and let go of the worry - it'll eat right through you. There are opinions everywhere and if you listened to them all, you'd be eating nothing at all. If it's working for your kids, keep doing it. There's no need to get excited over a few opinions about soy. For every well-researched, well thought out opinion on soy, there is another just as well-researched, well thought out opinion in the other direction. You need to do your own research and decide what's right for you. -- Roni Bergerson Independent Monavie Distributor Celebrate Good Health with Monavie! http://www.mymonavie.com/jandrbergerson/ -------------- Original message -------------- From: " marasheehan " <marasheehan@...> I also feed both of my kiddos soy milk every day. This is the first I have heard about it not being good... My son is allergic to dairy and I am trying to avoid animal products... What about rice milk? I have never seen coconut milk or oat milk before, but I have seen rice milk, that is why I ask about that specifically... Thanks! Mara > > I keep hearing on this site in suttle ways, that some parents are regretting giving their children soy in any form??? My 14 month old didn't take too well to whole milk at 1 so we switched her to soy milk and it worked wonders on her tummy! What is the problem with soy? > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 All those issues are a classic case of over indulgence or something taken to the extreme. Yes, in high amounts soy can cause cancer because it has phytoestrogens that act like estrogen in the body. It's very similar to be on homorne replacement therapy as far as the body is concerned. Soy crops are no different than any other big-agri crop. Eating organic will help sidestep many of the issues that go with that because most organic farming is not subsidized by the government. -- Roni Bergerson Independent Monavie Distributor Celebrate Good Health with Monavie! http://www.mymonavie.com/jandrbergerson/ -------------- Original message -------------- From: " Vida Khan " <vidamarino@...> I don't know if this has already been said, but anyone who eats soy or feeds it to their family should read The Whole Soy Story by Kaayla T. http://www.wholesoystory.com/ I used to drink soy milk, eat tofu, and eat soy burgers all the time cause I thought they were healthy because it said so on the packages. I first read about soys dangers on westonaprice.org and on the mercola web site and it was shocking to me. I also first read about how vaccines are dangerous and ineffective on those same sites, which was also shocking to me. Last year I did one of my thesis papers on the dangers of soy so I did some pretty in depth research on the subject and the whole soy industry is very similar to the pharma industry with all its payoffs. Also, many doctors are seeing new cancers caused entirely by soy. My sister's close friend has a sister who is a health nut. She eats healthy (what she thinks of as healthy anyways,) with tons of soy to replace meat and exercises every single day and is still quite young, however, a few months ago she was diagnosed with breast cancer and her oncologist told her it is a type of cancer he sees with patients who overconsume soy. Pretty scary. I understand some people are either vegan or vegetarian for different reasons and soy foods look like a wonderful alternative to meat. While I was eating soy foods, I was doing it because I thought meat was unhealthy and that cholesterol was bad. Luckily I discovered that it is actually the other way around (I could not stand the taste of soy.) Thanks to mostly the westonaprice website and many many books, I now eat whole natural foods, like butter, eggs, natural meats, and raw dairy foods (most people avoid these things like they are going to die if eat them even once,) and am much healthier and thinner for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Roni, so would you say " oragnic " soy milk would be better? Say from a store like Trader Joes or a Whole Foods market? Rina calladragonlily@... wrote: All those issues are a classic case of over indulgence or something taken to the extreme. Yes, in high amounts soy can cause cancer because it has phytoestrogens that act like estrogen in the body. It's very similar to be on homorne replacement therapy as far as the body is concerned. Soy crops are no different than any other big-agri crop. Eating organic will help sidestep many of the issues that go with that because most organic farming is not subsidized by the government. -- Roni Bergerson Independent Monavie Distributor Celebrate Good Health with Monavie! http://www.mymonavie.com/jandrbergerson/ -------------- Original message -------------- From: " Vida Khan " <vidamarino@...> I don't know if this has already been said, but anyone who eats soy or feeds it to their family should read The Whole Soy Story by Kaayla T. http://www.wholesoystory.com/ I used to drink soy milk, eat tofu, and eat soy burgers all the time cause I thought they were healthy because it said so on the packages. I first read about soys dangers on westonaprice.org and on the mercola web site and it was shocking to me. I also first read about how vaccines are dangerous and ineffective on those same sites, which was also shocking to me. Last year I did one of my thesis papers on the dangers of soy so I did some pretty in depth research on the subject and the whole soy industry is very similar to the pharma industry with all its payoffs. Also, many doctors are seeing new cancers caused entirely by soy. My sister's close friend has a sister who is a health nut. She eats healthy (what she thinks of as healthy anyways,) with tons of soy to replace meat and exercises every single day and is still quite young, however, a few months ago she was diagnosed with breast cancer and her oncologist told her it is a type of cancer he sees with patients who overconsume soy. Pretty scary. I understand some people are either vegan or vegetarian for different reasons and soy foods look like a wonderful alternative to meat. While I was eating soy foods, I was doing it because I thought meat was unhealthy and that cholesterol was bad. Luckily I discovered that it is actually the other way around (I could not stand the taste of soy.) Thanks to mostly the westonaprice website and many many books, I now eat whole natural foods, like butter, eggs, natural meats, and raw dairy foods (most people avoid these things like they are going to die if eat them even once,) and am much healthier and thinner for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 I always say organic is better - nutritionally, politically and environmentally. So that's a yes -- Roni Bergerson Independent Monavie Distributor Celebrate Good Health with Monavie! http://www.mymonavie.com/jandrbergerson/ -------------- Original message -------------- From: Rina Barillas <kisses4chuly@...> Roni, so would you say " oragnic " soy milk would be better? Say from a store like Trader Joes or a Whole Foods market? Rina calladragonlily@... wrote: All those issues are a classic case of over indulgence or something taken to the extreme. Yes, in high amounts soy can cause cancer because it has phytoestrogens that act like estrogen in the body. It's very similar to be on homorne replacement therapy as far as the body is concerned. Soy crops are no different than any other big-agri crop. Eating organic will help sidestep many of the issues that go with that because most organic farming is not subsidized by the government. -- Roni Bergerson Independent Monavie Distributor Celebrate Good Health with Monavie! http://www.mymonavie.com/jandrbergerson/ -------------- Original message -------------- From: " Vida Khan " <vidamarino@...> I don't know if this has already been said, but anyone who eats soy or feeds it to their family should read The Whole Soy Story by Kaayla T. http://www.wholesoystory.com/ I used to drink soy milk, eat tofu, and eat soy burgers all the time cause I thought they were healthy because it said so on the packages. I first read about soys dangers on westonaprice.org and on the mercola web site and it was shocking to me. I also first read about how vaccines are dangerous and ineffective on those same sites, which was also shocking to me. Last year I did one of my thesis papers on the dangers of soy so I did some pretty in depth research on the subject and the whole soy industry is very similar to the pharma industry with all its payoffs. Also, many doctors are seeing new cancers caused entirely by soy. My sister's close friend has a sister who is a health nut. She eats healthy (what she thinks of as healthy anyways,) with tons of soy to replace meat and exercises every single day and is still quite young, however, a few months ago she was diagnosed with breast cancer and her oncologist told her it is a type of cancer he sees with patients who overconsume soy. Pretty scary. I understand some people are either vegan or vegetarian for different reasons and soy foods look like a wonderful alternative to meat. While I was eating soy foods, I was doing it because I thought meat was unhealthy and that cholesterol was bad. Luckily I discovered that it is actually the other way around (I could not stand the taste of soy.) Thanks to mostly the westonaprice website and many many books, I now eat whole natural foods, like butter, eggs, natural meats, and raw dairy foods (most people avoid these things like they are going to die if eat them even once,) and am much healthier and thinner for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Thank you again Roni!!!! The almond milk sounds splendid!!!!!!!!!!!! calladragonlily@... wrote: I get them both at my food co-op. We use rice milk for cooking, on cereal, etc and almond milk for the " glass of milk " routine since rice milk is very watery and doesn't have a great mouth feel. Here's the rice milk I use http://www.westsoy.biz/products/product/1127.php And here's the almond milk I use http://www.bluediamond.com/shop/natural/almondBreeze32.cfm -- Roni Bergerson Independent Monavie Distributor Celebrate Good Health with Monavie! http://www.mymonavie.com/jandrbergerson/ -------------- Original message -------------- From: Rina Barillas <kisses4chuly@...> Roni, where do you purchase almond and rice milk and how nutritous are they? Calcium, vitamins A and D? Please let me know! Thank You, Rina calladragonlily@... wrote: My kiddos cannot have dairy either. I have them drink rice or almond milk for the majority of their milk intake. While I don't have them drink soy milk, I do let them have other things containing soy - soy cheese, soy pudding, etc. I've done a lot of research into soy in the process of getting my nutrition degree and while everyone has their opinion, I personally don't think it's the evil substance it's made out to be. It has some very good things in it, but with everything, moderation is the key. I feel that letting my kids drink soy milk would be giving them too much soy, but I feel that lower amounts are not harmful and give good nutrients. I gave my oldest son soy formula when he was a baby and I will feed soy formula to future babies if necessary - it's far better than cow's milk formula, but that is my own opinion and experience with cow's milk. You will find studies that say that soy formula is awful for babies and others that say that cow's milk formula is awful. If you can't breastfeed, you're really up a creek. Relax, do your research and make up your own mind, then just do it and let go of the worry - it'll eat right through you. There are opinions everywhere and if you listened to them all, you'd be eating nothing at all. If it's working for your kids, keep doing it. There's no need to get excited over a few opinions about soy. For every well-researched, well thought out opinion on soy, there is another just as well-researched, well thought out opinion in the other direction. You need to do your own research and decide what's right for you. -- Roni Bergerson Independent Monavie Distributor Celebrate Good Health with Monavie! http://www.mymonavie.com/jandrbergerson/ -------------- Original message -------------- From: " marasheehan " <marasheehan@...> I also feed both of my kiddos soy milk every day. This is the first I have heard about it not being good... My son is allergic to dairy and I am trying to avoid animal products... What about rice milk? I have never seen coconut milk or oat milk before, but I have seen rice milk, that is why I ask about that specifically... Thanks! Mara > > I keep hearing on this site in suttle ways, that some parents are regretting giving their children soy in any form??? My 14 month old didn't take too well to whole milk at 1 so we switched her to soy milk and it worked wonders on her tummy! What is the problem with soy? > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 I was looking at some of those websites, and I still think that some of that information is not valid. You must always look at everything critically. No one should eat too much of anything, but you want to becareful about the soymilk you buy. For example, I only buy soymilk that has added sea salt, and maple syrup for flavor, if I don't make my own milk in my house. You always want to avoid genetically modified anything. Marieliz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 When looking for the milk alternatives, i.e. rice milk (I give this to my son all the time), almond milk, oat milk, etc., look for the " natural " milk. I stay away from soy, personally.... The flavored stuff, like vanilla rice milk has sugars in it, and is sickeningly sweet (at least my family think so)! It's overkill on cereal or in anything. The " natural " milk is just plain milk. I buy rice milk and almond milk at Whole Foods. If the natural rice milk is in stock, I buy three or four at a time because it's not uncommon for them to run out of it, even though it has the most shelf space dedicated to it. I'm not sure if that's just a local thing or if natural rice milk is that popular all over. Of all the milk alternatives rice milk is my favorite because of its mild, sweet flavor. I like it in smoothies, over cereal and oatmeal, anywhere you'd use regular milk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 In our area it's usually labeled as " plain " vs. " vanilla " . We don't drink the vanilla stuff either. Too sweet and the sugar is not necessary, IMO. -- Roni Bergerson Independent Monavie Distributor Celebrate Good Health with Monavie! http://www.mymonavie.com/jandrbergerson/ -------------- Original message -------------- From: " Roberg " <trinnea@...> When looking for the milk alternatives, i.e. rice milk (I give this to my son all the time), almond milk, oat milk, etc., look for the " natural " milk. I stay away from soy, personally.... The flavored stuff, like vanilla rice milk has sugars in it, and is sickeningly sweet (at least my family think so)! It's overkill on cereal or in anything. The " natural " milk is just plain milk. I buy rice milk and almond milk at Whole Foods. If the natural rice milk is in stock, I buy three or four at a time because it's not uncommon for them to run out of it, even though it has the most shelf space dedicated to it. I'm not sure if that's just a local thing or if natural rice milk is that popular all over. Of all the milk alternatives rice milk is my favorite because of its mild, sweet flavor. I like it in smoothies, over cereal and oatmeal, anywhere you'd use regular milk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Yeah, " Plain " ... that's it! I was too lazy to walk to the kitchen to look at the lable. LOL Thanks! On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 7:50 PM, <calladragonlily@...> wrote: > > In our area it's usually labeled as " plain " vs. " vanilla " . We don't drink > the vanilla stuff either. Too sweet and the sugar is not necessary, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hemp milk is a good option as well. My kids love it. I have yet to try it because I love my milk. Manitoba Harvest's brand is far more superior than Living Harvest but my son doesn't care for MH. Not sure why. I also get these at Whole Foods. le _____ From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On Behalf Of Roberg Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:47 PM Vaccinations Subject: Re: Re: SOY MILK ???? When looking for the milk alternatives, i.e. rice milk (I give this to my son all the time), almond milk, oat milk, etc., look for the " natural " milk. I stay away from soy, personally.... The flavored stuff, like vanilla rice milk has sugars in it, and is sickeningly sweet (at least my family think so)! It's overkill on cereal or in anything. The " natural " milk is just plain milk. I buy rice milk and almond milk at Whole Foods. If the natural rice milk is in stock, I buy three or four at a time because it's not uncommon for them to run out of it, even though it has the most shelf space dedicated to it. I'm not sure if that's just a local thing or if natural rice milk is that popular all over. Of all the milk alternatives rice milk is my favorite because of its mild, sweet flavor. I like it in smoothies, over cereal and oatmeal, anywhere you'd use regular milk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 The below link will provide a host of articles about the dangers of soy. http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/index.htm I will not buy any packaged food that has soy in it, therefore, I don't buy packaged food because most all of it has soy. calladragonlily@... wrote: My kiddos cannot have dairy either. I have them drink rice or almond milk for the majority of their milk intake. While I don't have them drink soy milk, I do let them have other things containing soy - soy cheese, soy pudding, etc. I've done a lot of research into soy in the process of getting my nutrition degree and while everyone has their opinion, I personally don't think it's the evil substance it's made out to be. It has some very good things in it, but with everything, moderation is the key. I feel that letting my kids drink soy milk would be giving them too much soy, but I feel that lower amounts are not harmful and give good nutrients. I gave my oldest son soy formula when he was a baby and I will feed soy formula to future babies if necessary - it's far better than cow's milk formula, but that is my own opinion and experience with cow's milk. You will find studies that say that soy formula is awful for babies and others that say that cow's milk formula is awful. If you can't breastfeed, you're really up a creek. Relax, do your research and make up your own mind, then just do it and let go of the worry - it'll eat right through you. There are opinions everywhere and if you listened to them all, you'd be eating nothing at all. If it's working for your kids, keep doing it. There's no need to get excited over a few opinions about soy. For every well-researched, well thought out opinion on soy, there is another just as well-researched, well thought out opinion in the other direction. You need to do your own research and decide what's right for you. -- Roni Bergerson Independent Monavie Distributor Celebrate Good Health with Monavie! http://www.mymonavie.com/jandrbergerson/ -------------- Original message -------------- From: " marasheehan " <marasheehan@...> I also feed both of my kiddos soy milk every day. This is the first I have heard about it not being good... My son is allergic to dairy and I am trying to avoid animal products... What about rice milk? I have never seen coconut milk or oat milk before, but I have seen rice milk, that is why I ask about that specifically... Thanks! Mara > > I keep hearing on this site in suttle ways, that some parents are regretting giving their children soy in any form??? My 14 month old didn't take too well to whole milk at 1 so we switched her to soy milk and it worked wonders on her tummy! What is the problem with soy? > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 once again you are awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm thinking about the almond milk and if I can just find a darn Whole Foods close to me, I'm there!!! How about Trader Joe's? Rina Roberg <trinnea@...> wrote: When looking for the milk alternatives, i.e. rice milk (I give this to my son all the time), almond milk, oat milk, etc., look for the " natural " milk. I stay away from soy, personally.... The flavored stuff, like vanilla rice milk has sugars in it, and is sickeningly sweet (at least my family think so)! It's overkill on cereal or in anything. The " natural " milk is just plain milk. I buy rice milk and almond milk at Whole Foods. If the natural rice milk is in stock, I buy three or four at a time because it's not uncommon for them to run out of it, even though it has the most shelf space dedicated to it. I'm not sure if that's just a local thing or if natural rice milk is that popular all over. Of all the milk alternatives rice milk is my favorite because of its mild, sweet flavor. I like it in smoothies, over cereal and oatmeal, anywhere you'd use regular milk. Rina Barillas --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 AMEN to the no sugar Roni!!! Thanks, Rina calladragonlily@... wrote: In our area it's usually labeled as " plain " vs. " vanilla " . We don't drink the vanilla stuff either. Too sweet and the sugar is not necessary, IMO. -- Roni Bergerson Independent Monavie Distributor Celebrate Good Health with Monavie! http://www.mymonavie.com/jandrbergerson/ -------------- Original message -------------- From: " Roberg " <trinnea@...> When looking for the milk alternatives, i.e. rice milk (I give this to my son all the time), almond milk, oat milk, etc., look for the " natural " milk. I stay away from soy, personally.... The flavored stuff, like vanilla rice milk has sugars in it, and is sickeningly sweet (at least my family think so)! It's overkill on cereal or in anything. The " natural " milk is just plain milk. I buy rice milk and almond milk at Whole Foods. If the natural rice milk is in stock, I buy three or four at a time because it's not uncommon for them to run out of it, even though it has the most shelf space dedicated to it. I'm not sure if that's just a local thing or if natural rice milk is that popular all over. Of all the milk alternatives rice milk is my favorite because of its mild, sweet flavor. I like it in smoothies, over cereal and oatmeal, anywhere you'd use regular milk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 > Hemp milk is a good option as well. My kids love it. I have yet to try it > because I love my milk. Manitoba Harvest's brand is far more superior > than Living Harvest but my son doesn't care for MH. Not sure why. I also > get these at Whole Foods. > Note of caution on hemp: http://nourishedmagazine.com.au/blog/articles/hemp-not-for-human- consumption I know Sally is " against " all imitation milks but I think rice and almond are okay. I have seen someone mention hazelnut, too, but I'm not sure where you can get that. Magda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Instead of buying " milks " , try making them at home. Almond milk is easy and you'll know exactly what's in it! 1/2 cup raw organic shelled almonds ( you can take the skins off I don't) 2 cups water Sweetener if needed. Try Aquave nectar. Blend until smooth. You can strain it through cheese cloth to take out any tiny lumps. Cashew milk, same recipe, is very creamy and great for making smoothies and shakes, or thick creamy sauces and soups. If you are looking for good recipes with no dairy check out: The American Vegetarian Cookbook by Marilyn Diamond that is where I found the nut milks. Lots of smoothy recipe's ect with nut milks in them. Yum! I also add Kids Greens Berry plus by Ohm (might just be in Canada?) It has lot of fruits and vegi's, sweetened with stevia (a herb) and adds a nice sweet fruity flavor to smoothies. My secret to incredible smoothies is a squeeze of lime juice. Yum. Then I make popsicles with them. So I don't have to make it every day. My son is 7 and loves smoothies and popsicles I make more than any junk food or juice. Nuts are high in lots of nutrients, try to find a good fresh source and keep them frozen for freshness. Take care,Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Interesting, but then again I'd keep a few things in mind: 1) As an example, Chinese (in China) generally frown on eating brown rice. Culturally, white rice is the rice to eat and brown rice is for animals only. We know that brown rice is superior in terms of whole grain content, etc. So, I'm not sure if " cultural " trends are necessarily valid all the time. 2) Everything in moderation. Being high in LA is not necessarily a bad thing. You still need to consume adequate amounts of Omega 3s. Hemp oil is very much like flax seed in terms of its shelf life and unstability. Folks need to keep this in mind (as are warnings on the label in terms of refrigeration, etc.). 3) To compare hemp to soy is a bit misguided in my layperson's opinion. How soy is processed (with hexane, harsh chemicals) and the proven effects processed soy has on hormones is very different than how hemp is processed, etc. 4) Hemp protein powder we buy is tested to not include any detectable amounts of THC. I'm not sure how this happened with the test subjects and oil..By the way, the same thing can happen if one eats a poppyseed bagel or anything containing poppy seeds before a urine test. Consumption of poppy seeds can make one test positive for opiates Bottom line, I'm still sold on hemp. Like everything else, it's important to understand the pros and cons and adjust accordingly based on family's needs. _____ From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On Behalf Of Magda Velecky Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:48 AM Vaccinations Subject: Re: SOY MILK ???? > Hemp milk is a good option as well. My kids love it. I have yet to try it > because I love my milk. Manitoba Harvest's brand is far more superior > than Living Harvest but my son doesn't care for MH. Not sure why. I also > get these at Whole Foods. > Note of caution on hemp: http://nourishedmag <http://nourishedmagazine.com.au/blog/articles/hemp-not-for-human-> azine.com.au/blog/articles/hemp-not-for-human- consumption I know Sally is " against " all imitation milks but I think rice and almond are okay. I have seen someone mention hazelnut, too, but I'm not sure where you can get that. Magda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Thank you Lynda. Blessings, Rina Lynda McLellan <lyndam950@...> wrote: Instead of buying " milks " , try making them at home. Almond milk is easy and you'll know exactly what's in it! 1/2 cup raw organic shelled almonds ( you can take the skins off I don't) 2 cups water Sweetener if needed. Try Aquave nectar. Blend until smooth. You can strain it through cheese cloth to take out any tiny lumps. Cashew milk, same recipe, is very creamy and great for making smoothies and shakes, or thick creamy sauces and soups. If you are looking for good recipes with no dairy check out: The American Vegetarian Cookbook by Marilyn Diamond that is where I found the nut milks. Lots of smoothy recipe's ect with nut milks in them. Yum! I also add Kids Greens Berry plus by Ohm (might just be in Canada?) It has lot of fruits and vegi's, sweetened with stevia (a herb) and adds a nice sweet fruity flavor to smoothies. My secret to incredible smoothies is a squeeze of lime juice. Yum. Then I make popsicles with them. So I don't have to make it every day. My son is 7 and loves smoothies and popsicles I make more than any junk food or juice. Nuts are high in lots of nutrients, try to find a good fresh source and keep them frozen for freshness. Take care,Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Would it be unreasonable of me to suggest taking this over to OT4VAX? It is going on a bit here..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 What is the OT4Vax group that keeps getting mentioned? Is it for something other than vaccination questions? Sue <mum2mishka@...> wrote: Would it be unreasonable of me to suggest taking this over to OT4VAX? It is going on a bit here..... Rina Barillas --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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