Re: Story on local news

April 19, 2008

Ugh. I wrote him:

Mr. e,

This is in response to your 4/19 article on vaccine exemptions. I realize you

think you're doing a public service, but there are a few things you need to

understand about vaccines:

Vaccines ARE dangerous. All vaccines carry the risk of death. None are

guaranteed to work.

Therefore, herd immunity is a fantasy. We will never eradicate disease, nor

should we try. Energy is better spent improving lifestyle choices, diet, etc.

and less on supporting pharmaceutical companies who have no legal liability for

vaccine injuries or death.

" Vaccine preventable diseases " are coming back--never left--and they are

happening to vaccinated individuals. Parents are finally waking up out of their

deep slumber and putting two and two together. The use of vaccine exemptions is

growing because the number of vaccines are growing, and the risks to our

children are growing. So are the number of vaccine-damaged children, and rates

of autism, asthma, allergies, ADHD--and that's only the A's on the list.

There is no danger in neighbors informing neighbors of vaccine risks. There is,

however, danger in the media pushing propaganda without fact checking.

Winnie on

Litchfield, CT

Story on local news

vaccinations

> Leave it to the local news to do a one-sided story lacking in

> actual factual

> information... Just watched this story on the local news. I

> plan to email

> the reporter (kyle.clark@...) tomorrow, after I cool down and

> formulate my thoughts... I urge everyone to bombard him! Urge

> him to do a

> fair story that covers both sides of the controversy, rather

> than blindly

> following the masses! Probably won't do any good, but hey, what

> the heck?

>

> One of the things they stated is that they worry that those of

> us who are

> anti-vax will urge and convince our neighbors not to vaccinate,

> and that

> will drop their precious ratios even further. Damn straight I

> educate my

> neighbors!

>

> Story: http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=90262

>

April 19, 2008

The sad thing is you wrote a good letter but it is probably lost on him.

wharrison@... wrote:

>

> Ugh. I wrote him:

>

> Mr. e,

>

> This is in response to your 4/19 article on vaccine exemptions. I

> realize you think you're doing a public service, but there are a few

> things you need to understand about vaccines:

>

> Vaccines ARE dangerous. All vaccines carry the risk of death. None are

> guaranteed to work.

> Therefore, herd immunity is a fantasy. We will never eradicate

> disease, nor should we try. Energy is better spent improving lifestyle

> choices, diet, etc. and less on supporting pharmaceutical companies

> who have no legal liability for vaccine injuries or death.

>

> " Vaccine preventable diseases " are coming back--never left--and they

> are happening to vaccinated individuals. Parents are finally waking up

> out of their deep slumber and putting two and two together. The use of

> vaccine exemptions is growing because the number of vaccines are

> growing, and the risks to our children are growing. So are the number

> of vaccine-damaged children, and rates of autism, asthma, allergies,

> ADHD--and that's only the A's on the list.

>

> There is no danger in neighbors informing neighbors of vaccine risks.

> There is, however, danger in the media pushing propaganda without fact

> checking.

>

> Winnie on

> Litchfield, CT

>

> Story on local news

> vaccinations

>

> > Leave it to the local news to do a one-sided story lacking in

> > actual factual

> > information... Just watched this story on the local news. I

> > plan to email

> > the reporter (kyle.clark@... <mailto:kyle.clark%409news.com>)

> tomorrow, after I cool down and

> > formulate my thoughts... I urge everyone to bombard him! Urge

> > him to do a

> > fair story that covers both sides of the controversy, rather

> > than blindly

> > following the masses! Probably won't do any good, but hey, what

> > the heck?

> >

> > One of the things they stated is that they worry that those of

> > us who are

> > anti-vax will urge and convince our neighbors not to vaccinate,

> > and that

> > will drop their precious ratios even further. Damn straight I

> > educate my

> > neighbors!

> >

> > Story: http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=90262

> <http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=90262>

> >

April 19, 2008

Of course it was. He responded right away to show just that. Here it is and my

response back:

Ms on,

Thank you for writing. I appreciate your willingness to express your opinions,

but we are forced to deal in facts when presenting stories to the public.

You are correct in that there are certainly dangers in vaccines. Dangers that

most modern societies have accepted as a trade-off against the far more

crippling effects of the diseases prevented.

Your opinion that herd immunity is a fantasy and is not supported by medical

evidence. (And yes, I have seen the cornucopia of vaccine skeptic websites, but

a website is not evidence, it's a website)

Your list of maladies that you attribute to vaccines is impressive, but again,

not founded in science.

We were not attempting to discourage parents from using exemptions, or from

talking to other parents about their choice.

Our piece was aimed at educating the vast majority of parents who choose

immunization about how the choices of their neighbor can affect their families.

Simply because something is in disagreement with your world view does not make

it propaganda. And simply because you believe something, does not make it fact.

Thank you again for writing and sharing your views.

Take care,

9NEWS Reporter

K*USA-TV Denver, CO

My response:

Mr. ,

You are correct, one needs to deal in facts. I get mine from the vaccine package

inserts, not from any website (which I didn't say a word about). As a matter of

fact, I stopped vaccinating my children seven years before I even had a computer

or knew what a website was.

I do not consider it " fact " that the dangers of vaccines are worth the trade-off

of the effects of disease. No matter how many people believe that, it is just

opinion--and precisely why exemptions are needed.

Actually, I didn't really get that you were trying to educate pro-vaccine

parents by stating " there is an additional danger in parents opposed to vaccines

convincing neighbors not to immunize their children. "

What about the danger to the families whose neighbors (or news media) convinced

them to vaccinate and their child is injured or dies? Are you planning a report

on educating anti-vaccine families about those dangerous pro-vaccine neighbors?

Going by the last paragraph of your article where you mention the

" pro-immunization push, " I suppose not. But thank you for opening up the debate.

That is always good.

Winnie on

Story on local news

> > vaccinations

> >

> > > Leave it to the local news to do a one-sided story lacking in

> > > actual factual

> > > information... Just watched this story on the local news. I

> > > plan to email

> > > the reporter (kyle.clark@...

> )

> > tomorrow, after I cool down and

> > > formulate my thoughts... I urge everyone to bombard him! Urge

> > > him to do a

> > > fair story that covers both sides of the controversy, rather

> > > than blindly

> > > following the masses! Probably won't do any good, but hey, what

> > > the heck?

> > >

> > > One of the things they stated is that they worry that those of

> > > us who are

> > > anti-vax will urge and convince our neighbors not to vaccinate,

> > > and that

> > > will drop their precious ratios even further. Damn straight I

> > > educate my

> > > neighbors!

> > >

> > > Story: http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=90262

> >

> > >

April 19, 2008

It's funny that he finds his story " fact " ... based on what? I'm definately

composing my thoughts and will write a nice letter tomorrow morning....

Thanks for writing as well Winnie.

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:50 PM, <wharrison@...> wrote:

> Of course it was. He responded right away to show just that. Here it is

> and my response back:

>

> Ms on,

>

> Thank you for writing. I appreciate your willingness to express your

> opinions, but we are forced to deal in facts when presenting stories to the

> public.

>

> You are correct in that there are certainly dangers in vaccines. Dangers

> that most modern societies have accepted as a trade-off against the far more

> crippling effects of the diseases prevented.

>

> Your opinion that herd immunity is a fantasy and is not supported by

> medical evidence. (And yes, I have seen the cornucopia of vaccine skeptic

> websites, but a website is not evidence, it's a website)

>

> Your list of maladies that you attribute to vaccines is impressive, but

> again, not founded in science.

>

> We were not attempting to discourage parents from using exemptions, or

> from talking to other parents about their choice.

>

> Our piece was aimed at educating the vast majority of parents who choose

> immunization about how the choices of their neighbor can affect their

> families.

>

> Simply because something is in disagreement with your world view does not

> make it propaganda. And simply because you believe something, does not make

> it fact.

>

> Thank you again for writing and sharing your views.

>

> Take care,

>

> 9NEWS Reporter

> K*USA-TV Denver, CO

>

> My response:

> Mr. ,

>

> You are correct, one needs to deal in facts. I get mine from the vaccine

> package inserts, not from any website (which I didn't say a word about). As

> a matter of fact, I stopped vaccinating my children seven years before I

> even had a computer or knew what a website was.

>

> I do not consider it " fact " that the dangers of vaccines are worth the

> trade-off of the effects of disease. No matter how many people believe that,

> it is just opinion--and precisely why exemptions are needed.

>

> Actually, I didn't really get that you were trying to educate pro-vaccine

> parents by stating " there is an additional danger in parents opposed to

> vaccines convincing neighbors not to immunize their children. "

>

> What about the danger to the families whose neighbors (or news media)

> convinced them to vaccinate and their child is injured or dies? Are you

> planning a report on educating anti-vaccine families about those dangerous

> pro-vaccine neighbors?

>

> Going by the last paragraph of your article where you mention the

> " pro-immunization push, " I suppose not. But thank you for opening up the

> debate. That is always good.

>

> Winnie on

>

> Story on local news

> > > vaccinations

> > >

> > > > Leave it to the local news to do a one-sided story lacking in

> > > > actual factual

> > > > information... Just watched this story on the local news. I

> > > > plan to email

> > > > the reporter (kyle.clark@... <kyle.clark%409news.com>

> > )

> > > tomorrow, after I cool down and

> > > > formulate my thoughts... I urge everyone to bombard him! Urge

> > > > him to do a

> > > > fair story that covers both sides of the controversy, rather

> > > > than blindly

> > > > following the masses! Probably won't do any good, but hey, what

> > > > the heck?

> > > >

> > > > One of the things they stated is that they worry that those of

> > > > us who are

> > > > anti-vax will urge and convince our neighbors not to vaccinate,

> > > > and that

> > > > will drop their precious ratios even further. Damn straight I

> > > > educate my

> > > > neighbors!

> > > >

> > > > Story: http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=90262

> > >

> > > >

April 20, 2008

I would mention something about unbiased reporters shouldn't allow themselves to

be used as a mouthpiece.

Story on local news

> > > > vaccinations

> > > >

> > > > > Leave it to the local news to do a one-sided story

> lacking in

> > > > > actual factual

> > > > > information... Just watched this story on the local

> news. I

> > > > > plan to email

> > > > > the reporter (kyle.clark@...

> > > )

> > > > tomorrow, after I cool down and

> > > > > formulate my thoughts... I urge everyone to bombard him! Urge

> > > > > him to do a

> > > > > fair story that covers both sides of the controversy, rather

> > > > > than blindly

> > > > > following the masses! Probably won't do any good, but

> hey, what

> > > > > the heck?

> > > > >

> > > > > One of the things they stated is that they worry that

> those of

> > > > > us who are

> > > > > anti-vax will urge and convince our neighbors not to

> vaccinate,> > > > and that

> > > > > will drop their precious ratios even further. Damn

> straight I

> > > > > educate my

> > > > > neighbors!

> > > > >

> > > > > Story: http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=90262

> > > >

> > > > >

April 20, 2008

Oh you better believe I wrote him too. Quick schooling on my

personal nightmare and the horrors that go along with vaccines. I

also asked him why he doesn't cover the other side of the debate. Is

he paid large sums of money to keep his mouth shut?

>

> Leave it to the local news to do a one-sided story lacking in

actual factual

> information... Just watched this story on the local news. I plan

to email

> the reporter (kyle.clark@...) tomorrow, after I cool down and

> formulate my thoughts... I urge everyone to bombard him! Urge him

to do a

> fair story that covers both sides of the controversy, rather than

blindly

> following the masses! Probably won't do any good, but hey, what

the heck?

>

> One of the things they stated is that they worry that those of us

who are

> anti-vax will urge and convince our neighbors not to vaccinate, and

that

> will drop their precious ratios even further. Damn straight I

educate my

> neighbors!

>

> Story: http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=90262

>

April 20, 2008

Thanks for sharing!! I wrote him a letter when I saw yours before I

even read the fact that he had actually responded.

> > >

> > > Ugh. I wrote him:

> > >

> > > Mr. e,

> > >

> > > This is in response to your 4/19 article on vaccine

> > exemptions. I

> > > realize you think you're doing a public service, but there are

> > a few

> > > things you need to understand about vaccines:

> > >

> > > Vaccines ARE dangerous. All vaccines carry the risk of death.

> > None are

> > > guaranteed to work.

> > > Therefore, herd immunity is a fantasy. We will never eradicate

> > > disease, nor should we try. Energy is better spent improving

> > lifestyle

> > > choices, diet, etc. and less on supporting pharmaceutical

> > companies

> > > who have no legal liability for vaccine injuries or death.

> > >

> > > " Vaccine preventable diseases " are coming back--never left--

> > and they

> > > are happening to vaccinated individuals. Parents are finally

> > waking up

> > > out of their deep slumber and putting two and two together.

> > The use of

> > > vaccine exemptions is growing because the number of vaccines

> > are

> > > growing, and the risks to our children are growing. So are the

> > number

> > > of vaccine-damaged children, and rates of autism, asthma,

> > allergies,

> > > ADHD--and that's only the A's on the list.

> > >

> > > There is no danger in neighbors informing neighbors of vaccine

> > risks.

> > > There is, however, danger in the media pushing propaganda

> > without fact

> > > checking.

> > >

> > > Winnie on

> > > Litchfield, CT

> > >

> > > Story on local news

> > > vaccinations

> > >

> > > > Leave it to the local news to do a one-sided story lacking in

> > > > actual factual

> > > > information... Just watched this story on the local news. I

> > > > plan to email

> > > > the reporter (kyle.clark@...

> > )

> > > tomorrow, after I cool down and

> > > > formulate my thoughts... I urge everyone to bombard him! Urge

> > > > him to do a

> > > > fair story that covers both sides of the controversy, rather

> > > > than blindly

> > > > following the masses! Probably won't do any good, but hey,

what

> > > > the heck?

> > > >

> > > > One of the things they stated is that they worry that those of

> > > > us who are

> > > > anti-vax will urge and convince our neighbors not to

vaccinate,

> > > > and that

> > > > will drop their precious ratios even further. Damn straight I

> > > > educate my

> > > > neighbors!

> > > >

> > > > Story: http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=90262

> > >

> > > >

April 20, 2008

I hope he continues to read them. That will be the big question!!

This letter is also well written and full of wonderful information.

Thanks for sharing.

I wrote a short and sweet letter, and didn't copy it.

>

> Okay, my water broke at midnight and I'm waiting for labor to

really set

> in, so I decided to get this email off my chest now, before the

baby gets

> here! Here's my email to Mr. at our wonderful NBC affiliate:

>

> Dear Mr. :

>

> I watched your news story regarding vaccination exemptions last

night. I

> would like to urge you to take your story further and investigate

BOTH sides

> of the vaccine controversy very carefully and THOROUGHLY with an

unbiased

> mind, then give a fair and balanced report representing both sides

of the

> issue. After all, isn't that is what good journalism is all about?

>

> As I sit here, in the early stages of labor with my second child, I

can't

> help but think about how far my own views on this subject have come

over the

> last three years. When I was pregnant with my first child three

years ago,

> I was careful to research all the baby products I was putting on my

baby

> registry. For instance, what is the safest infant car seat? What

stroller

> will be most efficient and last, be easy to maneuver, etc., what

fabrics are

> best against a baby's skin, what bath products are most gentle and

> non-irritating to a baby's skin, what color should I paint the

nursery?

> Vaccines (among the other drugs that are thrust upon our children

on a daily

> basis) were the furthest thing from my mind. I never ever thought to

> question my doctor, the pharmaceutical companies or our government

and their

> motives. That is, until my best friend's then seven-year-old

daughter

> suddenly and violently developed Type I Diabetes. As that little

girl lay

> in the ICU in a coma fighting for her life, I heard the doctor say

that the

> vaccines that she was given a mere two days earlier had attacked her

> pancreas and killed it, rendering her dependant on insulin for the

rest of

> her life -- assuming she made a recovery and didn't die from

diabetic coma

> in her hospital bed. Thankfully, she did come out of her coma, but

her life

> and the lives of her family were forever changed, all because of a

few jabs

> in the name of the " greater good " and " herd immunity " . * *I also

have a

> friend who has a child with autism, which he developed after his 18-

month

> shots, and another friend who lost her two-month-old to death just

a few

> hours after a round of vaccines. This prompted me to do some

research of my

> own and I was appalled with my findings on the issue.

>

> I had to almost chuckle (with disgust) when I heard Dr. Brayden

state that

> the vaccinated as well as the unvaccinated are at risk from

children being

> unvaccinated. I ask you, how does this make sense? If the

vaccines work as

> well as they are purported to, then how in the world could a

vaccinated

> child be in danger from being exposed to an unvaccinated child?

> Shouldn't that vaccinated child be protected from the vaccine? And,

> if " herd immunity " really exists, how could 7% of a state's

population being

> unvaccinated be threatening said " herd immunity " ? That means that

93% of

> the population in Colorado is vaccinated; sounds like most of

the " herd " to

> me! Honestly, if the CDC and AAP weren't so paranoid that the

truth is

> finally coming to light, they wouldn't give a second thought to the

notion

> that I might actually talk to my neighbor about my non-vaccination

stance,

> or the fact that 7% of Colorado practices their exemption rights.

Their

> bottom line is being threatened, and they're using you, the media,

as their

> pawns to brainwash and manipulate the public into running to the

nearest

> clinic or pediatrician's office out of pure fear. You're playing

right into

> their hand, and they're the ones laughing all the way to the bank.

>

> The true fact of the matter is that every child is affected

differently by

> vaccines, as well as other drugs, and most are harmed in one way or

another,

> even if it's not intuitively obvious at the time of injection. To

assume

> that every child should be vaccinated according to the same

schedule is

> ludicrous. It's obviously truly not about children's health at

this point,

> or Gerberding, head of the CDC, would be jumping through

hoops to find

> out why autism rates are skyrocketing as we introduce more and more

vaccines

> into the schedule. She would be jumping to see if there is a

possible way

> to make our vaccines safer, or if they need to be pulled

altogether, in the

> name of the health and future of our children. Of course, autism

is just

> the " disease of the day " ; there are many other childhood health

issues that

> have skyrocketed out of control that are overshadowed by

> autism; i.e. asthma, diabetes, ADHD, ADD, depression, eczema, and

the list

> goes on and on.

>

> I don't believe it's coincidence that these chronic childhood

conditions

> have risen in proportion to the number of vaccines forced upon our

kids. A

> lot of educated parents agree with me in that belief. Are you

aware that in

> 1983 the rate of autism in the US was 1 in 10,000? At that time our

> children (probably you) were required to received 10 vaccinations

by the age

> of six. Today the rate of autism is reported to be 1 in 150 (old

data, it's

> getting worse), and our children are required to received 36

vaccinations by

> the age of six (see attached USA Today ad for a good comparison

chart).

>

> And why is it that the pharmaceutical companies that manufacture

these

> vaccines are not held accountable for the harm their products do to

our

> children? Take away liability and you give free reign to let

quality

> control slide. Merck, who is now making headlines for their deceit

with

> their VIOXX safety studies, is one of the manufacturers of the

vaccines that

> are given to our children. Why should we parents believe they

won't lie

> about their vaccines if they would lie about their other drugs, all

in the

> name of profit?

>

> I urge you to take a look at the *CDC's own list* of vaccine

ingredients:

>

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excip

ient-table-1.pdf

>

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excip

ient-table-2.pdf

>

> Now why would any responsible and INFORMED parent be willing, after

knowing

> these ingredients are in the shots given to their perfect, but

fragile,

> newborn, two-month-old or two-year-old? I don't even want those

neurotoxins

> injected into ME! Do you? (Be honest!) And why are parents not

given a

> list of ingredients as part of Informed Consent before they are

forced to

> sign waivers to their rights to compensation if their child is

injured or

> killed from a vaccine? Nowhere in nature are diseases introduced

into the

> human body in conjunction with neurotoxins and chemicals, and

nowhere in

> nature are up to nine diseases introduced into the human body all

at once on

> the same day. Yet, this is exactly what we are doing every time we

jab our

> children according to the CDC's schedule. How can we possibly

expect our

> children to remain healthy with their immune systems under attack

to that

> degree? If these childhood diseases are SO deadly, how did our race

> survive? My grandma had the measles, mumps, chicken pox, etc. She

lived to

> a ripe old age! My mother recovered from Polio as a child, and also

had

> measles, mumps, chicken pox. She's alive and well today, and fully

supports

> my stance on the vaccine issue, despite having suffered from polio.

I

> remember having the chicken pox as a kid, along with a lot of my

> classmates. We were all overjoyed to get a week off from school.

It was

> hardly deadly; I watched TV and ate popsicles all week! What's

wrong with

> letting our children's immune systems develop and strengthen

naturally, by

> contracting these diseases and acquiring life-long, true

> immunity (as opposed to questionable efficacy of vaccine and the

need for

> booster shots) the way God intended?

>

> Also consider this: In 30-40 years the big political issue isn't

going to

> be how we can save Medicare or whether to end the war, it's going

to be how

> to deal with all the aging people with autism who can't care for

themselves

> and their loving parents, who are willing to sacrifice everything

to care

> for these children, are long dead. Think about how this is going

to impact

> our economy and society as a whole! All in the name of " the

greater good " .

>

> I ask you again, please consider doing some thorough research on

this

> subject and giving a fair and unbiased report of the true facts.

At the

> very least, I urge you to do research of your own if you have

children or if

> you ever have children in the future... for their sake.

>

> Sincerely,

> Roberg

> Highlands Ranch, CO

>

April 20, 2008

By the way, I hope your pressure waves are kind.

I hope that you can move around, and get comfortable as the baby

finds his/her way out your body, into this cold world.

Good luck in your birth time, and my blessings to you.

Marieliz

due in June, 2008 to my 2nd precious baby!!

>

> Okay, my water broke at midnight and I'm waiting for labor to

really set

> in, so I decided to get this email off my chest now, before the

baby gets

> here! Here's my email to Mr. at our wonderful NBC affiliate:

>

> Dear Mr. :

>

> I watched your news story regarding vaccination exemptions last

night. I

> would like to urge you to take your story further and investigate

BOTH sides

> of the vaccine controversy very carefully and THOROUGHLY with an

unbiased

> mind, then give a fair and balanced report representing both sides

of the

> issue. After all, isn't that is what good journalism is all about?

>

> As I sit here, in the early stages of labor with my second child, I

can't

> help but think about how far my own views on this subject have come

over the

> last three years. When I was pregnant with my first child three

years ago,

> I was careful to research all the baby products I was putting on my

baby

> registry. For instance, what is the safest infant car seat? What

stroller

> will be most efficient and last, be easy to maneuver, etc., what

fabrics are

> best against a baby's skin, what bath products are most gentle and

> non-irritating to a baby's skin, what color should I paint the

nursery?

> Vaccines (among the other drugs that are thrust upon our children

on a daily

> basis) were the furthest thing from my mind. I never ever thought to

> question my doctor, the pharmaceutical companies or our government

and their

> motives. That is, until my best friend's then seven-year-old

daughter

> suddenly and violently developed Type I Diabetes. As that little

girl lay

> in the ICU in a coma fighting for her life, I heard the doctor say

that the

> vaccines that she was given a mere two days earlier had attacked her

> pancreas and killed it, rendering her dependant on insulin for the

rest of

> her life -- assuming she made a recovery and didn't die from

diabetic coma

> in her hospital bed. Thankfully, she did come out of her coma, but

her life

> and the lives of her family were forever changed, all because of a

few jabs

> in the name of the " greater good " and " herd immunity " . * *I also

have a

> friend who has a child with autism, which he developed after his 18-

month

> shots, and another friend who lost her two-month-old to death just

a few

> hours after a round of vaccines. This prompted me to do some

research of my

> own and I was appalled with my findings on the issue.

>

> I had to almost chuckle (with disgust) when I heard Dr. Brayden

state that

> the vaccinated as well as the unvaccinated are at risk from

children being

> unvaccinated. I ask you, how does this make sense? If the

vaccines work as

> well as they are purported to, then how in the world could a

vaccinated

> child be in danger from being exposed to an unvaccinated child?

> Shouldn't that vaccinated child be protected from the vaccine? And,

> if " herd immunity " really exists, how could 7% of a state's

population being

> unvaccinated be threatening said " herd immunity " ? That means that

93% of

> the population in Colorado is vaccinated; sounds like most of

the " herd " to

> me! Honestly, if the CDC and AAP weren't so paranoid that the

truth is

> finally coming to light, they wouldn't give a second thought to the

notion

> that I might actually talk to my neighbor about my non-vaccination

stance,

> or the fact that 7% of Colorado practices their exemption rights.

Their

> bottom line is being threatened, and they're using you, the media,

as their

> pawns to brainwash and manipulate the public into running to the

nearest

> clinic or pediatrician's office out of pure fear. You're playing

right into

> their hand, and they're the ones laughing all the way to the bank.

>

> The true fact of the matter is that every child is affected

differently by

> vaccines, as well as other drugs, and most are harmed in one way or

another,

> even if it's not intuitively obvious at the time of injection. To

assume

> that every child should be vaccinated according to the same

schedule is

> ludicrous. It's obviously truly not about children's health at

this point,

> or Gerberding, head of the CDC, would be jumping through

hoops to find

> out why autism rates are skyrocketing as we introduce more and more

vaccines

> into the schedule. She would be jumping to see if there is a

possible way

> to make our vaccines safer, or if they need to be pulled

altogether, in the

> name of the health and future of our children. Of course, autism

is just

> the " disease of the day " ; there are many other childhood health

issues that

> have skyrocketed out of control that are overshadowed by

> autism; i.e. asthma, diabetes, ADHD, ADD, depression, eczema, and

the list

> goes on and on.

>

> I don't believe it's coincidence that these chronic childhood

conditions

> have risen in proportion to the number of vaccines forced upon our

kids. A

> lot of educated parents agree with me in that belief. Are you

aware that in

> 1983 the rate of autism in the US was 1 in 10,000? At that time our

> children (probably you) were required to received 10 vaccinations

by the age

> of six. Today the rate of autism is reported to be 1 in 150 (old

data, it's

> getting worse), and our children are required to received 36

vaccinations by

> the age of six (see attached USA Today ad for a good comparison

chart).

>

> And why is it that the pharmaceutical companies that manufacture

these

> vaccines are not held accountable for the harm their products do to

our

> children? Take away liability and you give free reign to let

quality

> control slide. Merck, who is now making headlines for their deceit

with

> their VIOXX safety studies, is one of the manufacturers of the

vaccines that

> are given to our children. Why should we parents believe they

won't lie

> about their vaccines if they would lie about their other drugs, all

in the

> name of profit?

>

> I urge you to take a look at the *CDC's own list* of vaccine

ingredients:

>

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excip

ient-table-1.pdf

>

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excip

ient-table-2.pdf

>

> Now why would any responsible and INFORMED parent be willing, after

knowing

> these ingredients are in the shots given to their perfect, but

fragile,

> newborn, two-month-old or two-year-old? I don't even want those

neurotoxins

> injected into ME! Do you? (Be honest!) And why are parents not

given a

> list of ingredients as part of Informed Consent before they are

forced to

> sign waivers to their rights to compensation if their child is

injured or

> killed from a vaccine? Nowhere in nature are diseases introduced

into the

> human body in conjunction with neurotoxins and chemicals, and

nowhere in

> nature are up to nine diseases introduced into the human body all

at once on

> the same day. Yet, this is exactly what we are doing every time we

jab our

> children according to the CDC's schedule. How can we possibly

expect our

> children to remain healthy with their immune systems under attack

to that

> degree? If these childhood diseases are SO deadly, how did our race

> survive? My grandma had the measles, mumps, chicken pox, etc. She

lived to

> a ripe old age! My mother recovered from Polio as a child, and also

had

> measles, mumps, chicken pox. She's alive and well today, and fully

supports

> my stance on the vaccine issue, despite having suffered from polio.

I

> remember having the chicken pox as a kid, along with a lot of my

> classmates. We were all overjoyed to get a week off from school.

It was

> hardly deadly; I watched TV and ate popsicles all week! What's

wrong with

> letting our children's immune systems develop and strengthen

naturally, by

> contracting these diseases and acquiring life-long, true

> immunity (as opposed to questionable efficacy of vaccine and the

need for

> booster shots) the way God intended?

>

> Also consider this: In 30-40 years the big political issue isn't

going to

> be how we can save Medicare or whether to end the war, it's going

to be how

> to deal with all the aging people with autism who can't care for

themselves

> and their loving parents, who are willing to sacrifice everything

to care

> for these children, are long dead. Think about how this is going

to impact

> our economy and society as a whole! All in the name of " the

greater good " .

>

> I ask you again, please consider doing some thorough research on

this

> subject and giving a fair and unbiased report of the true facts.

At the

> very least, I urge you to do research of your own if you have

children or if

> you ever have children in the future... for their sake.

>

> Sincerely,

> Roberg

> Highlands Ranch, CO

>

April 20, 2008

Oh wow...he did read your letter, and didn't read it! if you know

what I mean...

I hope you find to relax, and try to think about that flower opening,

yes, your flower is opening, and is very flexible, and will do its

job at its time.

Thanks for sharing!!

>

> Thanks for the kind words all... water broke at 12:15 am, it's now

10:30 am

> and still no active labor. Ack! Having a homebirth though, so I

think I'll

> go for a walk!

>

> Well, I was right on my assumption that my letter was falling on

deaf

> ears... he's just regirging everything that mainstream throws at

him. I may

> recross, but it will have to be later. Here's the reporter's

response back

> to me:

>

> Ms. Roberg,

>

> Thank you for writing. I will attempt to address some of the points

you've

> made.

>

> We struggle to balance fact with opinion. Numerous medical studies

have

> attempted to find a link between vaccines and increasingly frequent

> disorders like autism. I would have no problem reporting on a study

that

> found a conclusive link - but in the absence of such a study and

considering

> the preponderance of studies to the contrary - it would be

irresponsible of

> me to include a link simply because some people continue

to " believe. "

>

> Dr Brayden's comment about the vaccinated still being at risk is

due to the

> fact that not every vaccine is 100% effective for each person. Take

for

> instance, the measles vaccine. Also, more than 7% of the state's

children

> are unvaccinated. Closer to 15%. 7% just includes the exemptions,

which were

> being addressed in our story.

>

> I understand that people feel strongly about this topic, but strong

feelings

> are not substitutes for facts. If facts come to light that prove

> scientifically that current assumptions are wrong - they will be on

the

> news. We'd like nothing more to give people the best, most up-to-

date

> information. What we cannot do is place scientific research on the

same

> plane as supposition and suggestion.

>

> Thank you for writing and sharing your views.

>

> Take care,

>

> 9NEWS Reporter

> K*USA-TV Denver, CO

>

April 20, 2008

Way to go Winnie!!!!! I do not judge anyone who does or does not vaccinate but

this is the main problem.....everyone coming down so hard on those who do not.

It is a choice and one that a parent has to make for their own child. When I

read things like this, it reminds me of how I used to think just a few months

ago.......like how could anyone not vaccinate their child from these terrible

diseases. Now, my eyes have been opended and I kick myself constantly with my

lack of knowldge in this important matter.

I do not feel I am " anti " anything EXCEPT when it comes to things that are so

dangerous to our precious children!!!!!

~Beth

Story on local news

vaccinations

> Leave it to the local news to do a one-sided story lacking in

> actual factual

> information. .. Just watched this story on the local news. I

> plan to email

> the reporter (kyle.clark9news (DOT) com) tomorrow, after I cool down and

> formulate my thoughts... I urge everyone to bombard him! Urge

> him to do a

> fair story that covers both sides of the controversy, rather

> than blindly

> following the masses! Probably won't do any good, but hey, what

> the heck?

>

> One of the things they stated is that they worry that those of

> us who are

> anti-vax will urge and convince our neighbors not to vaccinate,

> and that

> will drop their precious ratios even further. Damn straight I

> educate my

> neighbors!

>

> Story: http://www.9news. com/news/ article.aspx? storyid=90262

>

April 20, 2008

The ignorant man responded to me too in a similar fashion. Here's

his letter below and my response to it. Notice that I did not even

address him?? (He made me quite angry at the time).

Dawn,

Thank you for writing. I understand that some people feel strongly

that vaccines are dangerous. However, we are not allowed to report

opinions as facts unless they are supported by evidence. My research

finds a lot of suggestions and hunches that vaccines are harmful,

like the example you wrote about, but little real, scientific

evidence.

Why do we not report on individual horror stories? Because anecdotes

aren't evidence. It would be as irresponsible for me to go on the

news and do a piece condemning Ford Motor Company because my pickup

broke down last week. That's a personal story, not evidence of an

overwhelming problem.

As for your comment about me " getting paid to keep my mouth shut " , I

will assume shortly after you wrote that you realized how silly that

is, but had already sent the email.

If I was getting paid by the 'CDC/big pharm/the Illuminati' to cover

up the dangers of vaccines, I would at least have the money to fix my

broken truck!

Thanks again for writing and sharing your views.

Take care,

9NEWS Reporter

K*USA-TV Denver, CO

My response to Mr. is below...

That's fine. It still doesn't explain why the CDC is allowed to lie

to the public about the number of flu deaths though. Why don't you

do a story on that?? Here's your proof for just one disease. I

encourage you to do your homework on the rest.

http://thinktwice.com/cdc_2001.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/preliminarydeaths05_tables.pdf#5

(page 33 out of 40)

In 2005 they reported 1,806 (the majority of all of these deaths were

in the elderly too)

36,000 deaths, huh according to the CDC ? What's their excuse for

this lie?

What about the toxic FEMA trailers (formaldehyde)? We are expected

to believe it is safe in vaccines?? Give me a break. The CDC

demoted their own expert when he concluded that it was toxic. The

EPA is considering it a possible carcinogen. Duh??

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_infanrix.pdf (page 1 for

formaldehyde content and 7 to view example of cancer warning)

A .5 ml dose is safe for all ages, heights, and weight??? Yeah,

right!

Why has history shown many outbreaks occurred among the VACCINATED

populations?

Again, just speak about the facts from BOTH sides of the debate

please.

Dawn

> > >

> > > Ugh. I wrote him:

> > >

> > > Mr. e,

> > >

> > > This is in response to your 4/19 article on vaccine

> > exemptions. I

> > > realize you think you're doing a public service, but there are

> > a few

> > > things you need to understand about vaccines:

> > >

> > > Vaccines ARE dangerous. All vaccines carry the risk of death.

> > None are

> > > guaranteed to work.

> > > Therefore, herd immunity is a fantasy. We will never eradicate

> > > disease, nor should we try. Energy is better spent improving

> > lifestyle

> > > choices, diet, etc. and less on supporting pharmaceutical

> > companies

> > > who have no legal liability for vaccine injuries or death.

> > >

> > > " Vaccine preventable diseases " are coming back--never left--

> > and they

> > > are happening to vaccinated individuals. Parents are finally

> > waking up

> > > out of their deep slumber and putting two and two together.

> > The use of

> > > vaccine exemptions is growing because the number of vaccines

> > are

> > > growing, and the risks to our children are growing. So are the

> > number

> > > of vaccine-damaged children, and rates of autism, asthma,

> > allergies,

> > > ADHD--and that's only the A's on the list.

> > >

> > > There is no danger in neighbors informing neighbors of vaccine

> > risks.

> > > There is, however, danger in the media pushing propaganda

> > without fact

> > > checking.

> > >

> > > Winnie on

> > > Litchfield, CT

> > >

> > > Story on local news

> > > vaccinations

> > >

> > > > Leave it to the local news to do a one-sided story lacking in

> > > > actual factual

> > > > information... Just watched this story on the local news. I

> > > > plan to email

> > > > the reporter (kyle.clark@...

> > )

> > > tomorrow, after I cool down and

> > > > formulate my thoughts... I urge everyone to bombard him! Urge

> > > > him to do a

> > > > fair story that covers both sides of the controversy, rather

> > > > than blindly

> > > > following the masses! Probably won't do any good, but hey,

what

> > > > the heck?

> > > >

> > > > One of the things they stated is that they worry that those of

> > > > us who are

> > > > anti-vax will urge and convince our neighbors not to

vaccinate,

> > > > and that

> > > > will drop their precious ratios even further. Damn straight I

> > > > educate my

> > > > neighbors!

> > > >

> > > > Story: http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=90262

> > >

> > > >

April 20, 2008

He responded to my short little letter too, I couldn't resist but to

write him again....

Dear Mr. e:

I never used the word assertion, simply said possibly thinking, which

is not as strong as the word assertion that brings a different

meaning. My concern comes from the fact that you are influencing the

public in your position, and everyone needs to learn to think

independently and be responsible for their actions. You wrote to me

your article is based on scientific research, but you only posed one

side; pro-vaccinations. This would lead me to think you are trying to

protect the interests of that side.

My statements are backed-up as well by scientific research. Read " The

Vaccine Guide: Risk and Benefits for Children and Adults by Randall

Neustaederter, OMD " where he address the efficacy about the varicella

vaccine on pages 150-152. As far as the side effects of the vaccines,

take a look at the listings that the pharmaceutical companies have in

their own website.

This is a response that came from sanofi pasteur:

Package inserts may be viewed at

http://www.vaccineplace.com/products/.

Any questions should be discussed with your physician.

Lynn Kennedy RN

Medical Information Associate

Medical Information Services US

sanofi pasteur

1-800-822-2463

Should you ever decide to go to the website, pull up almost any of

the inserts for any of the vaccines, you will see listed some as

Systematic Reactions: (hives, angioedema, allergic asthma, and

systemic anaphylaxis) and another word for systemic anaphylaxis is

anaphalactic shock, which means a sudden severe and potentially fatal

allergic reaction in somebody sensitive to a substance, marked by a

drop in blood pressure, difficulty in breathing, itching, and

swelling.

Unlike your accusation towards me, I am not just simply uniformed and

defensive. All I am asking that when you write your next story,

regardless what the topic is breastfeeding, genetically modified

engineering, vegetarians, attachment parenting, the war in Iraq, talk

about both sides as you were probably told in school.

Thank you,

Marieliz Monclova

Newark, New Jersey

" , " <kyle.clark@...> wrote:

Ms Monclava,

Thank you for writing. However, your assertion that I'm getting an

industry payoff shows a stunning disconnect from reality. Apart from

the fact that my story relied on scientific research that is at odds

with your opinions, do you have any evidence that I'm being bought?

I am sorry that anyone would be so uninformed and defensive on an

issue to slander someone in such a way.

9NEWs

vaccine story

Mr. e,

I just read an article that you wrote on vaccine exemptions. I am one

of those parent that you are talking about in your article. I am

possibly thinking that you are getting paid by pharmaceutical

companies to promote their poorly tested and dangerous vaccines.

Let's take the flu vaccine, has the flu disappeared. Doesn't the

public get infected by various different strains every year.

What about the varicella vaccine? When you get it as a child you may

possibly have lifetime immunity and only get it for possibly 2 weeks.

With the vaccine, what we are doing is changing the trend. Our

children could possibly now be affected as adults and be out of work

for a month, or possibly die from complications of the disease but

later.

Vaccines side effects include getting the disease that you are

actually getting vaccinated for and fatality. Why would I put my sons

at risk of death?

Marieliz Monclova

Newark, NJ

>

> This fellow is hung up on " science. " Maybe someone should write him

and tell him that there is no real science on vaccines. It's not as

if vaccines are tested by exposing someone after a vaccine to a

disease. No, they are either tested against other vaccines, or just

given and then assumed to be working if the disease rates as a whole

go down--as if no other factors could be at work.

>

> Anyway, you wrote a terrific letter. I hope you save it for your

child to show him/her what you were doing at the time labor kicked

in. Happy labor!

>

> Winnie

April 20, 2008

He is not reading the lines, he is not reading the information given

to him...He is simply skimming, and forming a biased opinion.

> > > >

> > > > Ugh. I wrote him:

> > > >

> > > > Mr. e,

> > > >

> > > > This is in response to your 4/19 article on vaccine

> > > exemptions. I

> > > > realize you think you're doing a public service, but there

are

> > > a few

> > > > things you need to understand about vaccines:

> > > >

> > > > Vaccines ARE dangerous. All vaccines carry the risk of death.

> > > None are

> > > > guaranteed to work.

> > > > Therefore, herd immunity is a fantasy. We will never

eradicate

> > > > disease, nor should we try. Energy is better spent improving

> > > lifestyle

> > > > choices, diet, etc. and less on supporting pharmaceutical

> > > companies

> > > > who have no legal liability for vaccine injuries or death.

> > > >

> > > > " Vaccine preventable diseases " are coming back--never left--

> > > and they

> > > > are happening to vaccinated individuals. Parents are finally

> > > waking up

> > > > out of their deep slumber and putting two and two together.

> > > The use of

> > > > vaccine exemptions is growing because the number of vaccines

> > > are

> > > > growing, and the risks to our children are growing. So are

the

> > > number

> > > > of vaccine-damaged children, and rates of autism, asthma,

> > > allergies,

> > > > ADHD--and that's only the A's on the list.

> > > >

> > > > There is no danger in neighbors informing neighbors of

vaccine

> > > risks.

> > > > There is, however, danger in the media pushing propaganda

> > > without fact

> > > > checking.

> > > >

> > > > Winnie on

> > > > Litchfield, CT

> > > >

> > > > Story on local news

> > > > vaccinations

> > > >

> > > > > Leave it to the local news to do a one-sided story lacking

in

> > > > > actual factual

> > > > > information... Just watched this story on the local news. I

> > > > > plan to email

> > > > > the reporter (kyle.clark@

> > > )

> > > > tomorrow, after I cool down and

> > > > > formulate my thoughts... I urge everyone to bombard him!

Urge

> > > > > him to do a

> > > > > fair story that covers both sides of the controversy, rather

> > > > > than blindly

> > > > > following the masses! Probably won't do any good, but hey,

> what

> > > > > the heck?

> > > > >

> > > > > One of the things they stated is that they worry that those

of

> > > > > us who are

> > > > > anti-vax will urge and convince our neighbors not to

> vaccinate,

> > > > > and that

> > > > > will drop their precious ratios even further. Damn straight

I

> > > > > educate my

> > > > > neighbors!

> > > > >

> > > > > Story: http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=90262

> > > >

> > > > >

April 20, 2008

>

> For all you letter writers, you might also wish to contact someone

at Woman's

> World magazine. They had a piece by a writer named Camille Noe

Pagan in the

> April 21st issue entitled, " Should You Get the HPV Vaccine? "

>

> The writer stresses the fact that the vaccine is not just for girls

ages 9 to

> 26, " it also protects women between ages 24 to 46 against four

strains of HPV

> (human papilloma virus) that cause 70% of cervical cancers! " She

also

> writes, " The vaccine may soon be recommended for males as well,

since men can carry

> the HPV virus, too, and spread it to their partners. "

>

> Under the bullet-point heading " Is it safe? " she

writes: " 'Extremely,' says

> Schlegel, M.D., Ph.D., chair of pathology at town

Medical

> Center, who helped create the vaccine. 'Possible side effects are

minor and include

> redness, itching or swelling at the injection site. A small

percentage of

> women may get a fever afterward.' "

>

> There you go, nice and unbiased, presents both sides, and quotes

from

> objective sources - not!

>

> Contact:

>

> Bauer Publishing

> 270 Sylvan Avenue

> Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632

>

> Main Phone: 201.569.6699

> Main Fax: 201.569.5303

>

> Saible

> Editor-in-Chief

>

> According to the publisher's website, Ms. Saible, the Editor-in-

Chief of

> Woman's World, " values her readers and maintains a loyal audience

who view Woman's

> World as their weekly bible for lifestyle, health, cooking, and

fashion and

> beauty information. "

>

> Becca

>

> **************

> Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used

> car listings at AOL Autos.

>

> (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

>

April 20, 2008

>

> For all you letter writers, you might also wish to contact someone

at Woman's

> World magazine. They had a piece by a writer named Camille Noe

Pagan in the

> April 21st issue entitled, " Should You Get the HPV Vaccine? "

>

> The writer stresses the fact that the vaccine is not just for girls

ages 9 to

> 26, " it also protects women between ages 24 to 46 against four

strains of HPV

> (human papilloma virus) that cause 70% of cervical cancers! " She

also

> writes, " The vaccine may soon be recommended for males as well,

since men can carry

> the HPV virus, too, and spread it to their partners. "

>

> Under the bullet-point heading " Is it safe? " she

writes: " 'Extremely,' says

> Schlegel, M.D., Ph.D., chair of pathology at town

Medical

> Center, who helped create the vaccine. 'Possible side effects are

minor and include

> redness, itching or swelling at the injection site. A small

percentage of

> women may get a fever afterward.' "

>

> There you go, nice and unbiased, presents both sides, and quotes

from

> objective sources - not!

>

> Contact:

>

> Bauer Publishing

> 270 Sylvan Avenue

> Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632

>

> Main Phone: 201.569.6699

> Main Fax: 201.569.5303

>

> Saible

> Editor-in-Chief

>

> According to the publisher's website, Ms. Saible, the Editor-in-

Chief of

> Woman's World, " values her readers and maintains a loyal audience

who view Woman's

> World as their weekly bible for lifestyle, health, cooking, and

fashion and

> beauty information. "

>

> Becca

>

> **************

> Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used

> car listings at AOL Autos.

>

> (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

>

April 20, 2008

This is the email address I obtained through google....

dearww@...

I already sent them a " quick schooling " on the vaccine to include

descriptive VAERS reports (all 3,400+ of them in 15 mo.)!!

>

> For all you letter writers, you might also wish to contact someone

at Woman's

> World magazine. They had a piece by a writer named Camille Noe

Pagan in the

> April 21st issue entitled, " Should You Get the HPV Vaccine? "

>

> The writer stresses the fact that the vaccine is not just for girls

ages 9 to

> 26, " it also protects women between ages 24 to 46 against four

strains of HPV

> (human papilloma virus) that cause 70% of cervical cancers! " She

also

> writes, " The vaccine may soon be recommended for males as well,

since men can carry

> the HPV virus, too, and spread it to their partners. "

>

> Under the bullet-point heading " Is it safe? " she

writes: " 'Extremely,' says

> Schlegel, M.D., Ph.D., chair of pathology at town

Medical

> Center, who helped create the vaccine. 'Possible side effects are

minor and include

> redness, itching or swelling at the injection site. A small

percentage of

> women may get a fever afterward.' "

>

> There you go, nice and unbiased, presents both sides, and quotes

from

> objective sources - not!

>

> Contact:

>

> Bauer Publishing

> 270 Sylvan Avenue

> Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632

>

> Main Phone: 201.569.6699

> Main Fax: 201.569.5303

>

> Saible

> Editor-in-Chief

>

> According to the publisher's website, Ms. Saible, the Editor-in-

Chief of

> Woman's World, " values her readers and maintains a loyal audience

who view Woman's

> World as their weekly bible for lifestyle, health, cooking, and

fashion and

> beauty information. "

>

> Becca

>

> **************

> Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used

> car listings at AOL Autos.

>

> (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

>

April 20, 2008

My latest letter to Mr. is below:

Hello Mr. ,

Why doesn't your station investigate the Hep B vaccine? It was

pulled from the French market and authorities are investigating

charges of manslaughter against Sanofi Pasteur and Merck (for not

disclosing all of the risks associated with this vaccine). There are

6 French families that have filed wrongful death suits and plenty

more being filed as I write this. Why didn't that make its way here

in the news in the U.S.?? Why did your station fail to report

this?? Why is this same vaccine still on the U.S. market

manufactured by the same U.S. company?

I could name many more vaccines that were pulled from foreign markets

too - only to remain on ours. Quite sick.

FYI - there have been countless valid studies involving vaccines.

Unfortunately, all of them were dismissed by WHO, NIH, the FDA, the

CDC, and the AAP. Their profits are far more important than any

studies involving vaccines.

Don't you find it a bit odd that every town has at least 4-5 drug

stores?? Drug companies are making a fortune - and laughing all the

way to the bank at the expense of the public.

Again, please cover stories that we, the public would like to hear

(the truth).

Dawn

> >

> > For all you letter writers, you might also wish to contact

someone

> at Woman's

> > World magazine. They had a piece by a writer named Camille Noe

> Pagan in the

> > April 21st issue entitled, " Should You Get the HPV Vaccine? "

> >

> > The writer stresses the fact that the vaccine is not just for

girls

> ages 9 to

> > 26, " it also protects women between ages 24 to 46 against four

> strains of HPV

> > (human papilloma virus) that cause 70% of cervical cancers! " She

> also

> > writes, " The vaccine may soon be recommended for males as well,

> since men can carry

> > the HPV virus, too, and spread it to their partners. "

> >

> > Under the bullet-point heading " Is it safe? " she

> writes: " 'Extremely,' says

> > Schlegel, M.D., Ph.D., chair of pathology at town

> Medical

> > Center, who helped create the vaccine. 'Possible side effects

are

> minor and include

> > redness, itching or swelling at the injection site. A small

> percentage of

> > women may get a fever afterward.' "

> >

> > There you go, nice and unbiased, presents both sides, and quotes

> from

> > objective sources - not!

> >

> > Contact:

> >

> > Bauer Publishing

> > 270 Sylvan Avenue

> > Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632

> >

> > Main Phone: 201.569.6699

> > Main Fax: 201.569.5303

> >

> > Saible

> > Editor-in-Chief

> >

> > According to the publisher's website, Ms. Saible, the Editor-in-

> Chief of

> > Woman's World, " values her readers and maintains a loyal audience

> who view Woman's

> > World as their weekly bible for lifestyle, health, cooking, and

> fashion and

> > beauty information. "

> >

> > Becca

> >

> > **************

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> >

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> >

April 20, 2008

Thank you , I will write to him as well! I see that you are in

Highlands Ranch, I'm in ! It was nice to see a neighbor here

online . It's 6pm now and I'm hoping your baby is well on the way!!

April 21, 2008

I'd be curious to the following: Many talk about wanting " scientific facts "

from the non-vacc (or those that don't go by the schedule) side. Has anyone

ever presented a study from the pro-vacc side that vaccinations have indeed

declined diseases? I mean, I read it a lot, I hear it a lot - has there been

any scientific studies to this assertion? The below studies on vaccine adverse

events was recently posted on a different debate blog I'm on. I've gone through

and have eliminated any references to links that did not work, or, those that

really weren't on topic. Here are a bunch of studies that talk about AE's

related to certain vaccines and these are just the tip of the iceberg. Where

are the other studies to show that there aren't these problems? Where are the

studies to show that the trade-off of mainly benign childhood diseases is worth

the risk of long-term chronic infections/diseases/illnesses/disorders? Where

are they?

1. Aluminum is established as a neurotoxin, although the basis for its

toxicity is unknown. It recently has been shown to alter the function of the

blood-brain barrier (BBB), which regulates exchanges between the central nervous

system (CNS) and peripheral circulation.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2671833?dopt=Citatio n

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of families with an anthroposophic lifestyle. The Lancet 1999; 353:1485-8.

Study looked at Anthroposophic children (children raised with restrictive use

of vaccines, antibiotics and animal products). Compared those children with

mainstream children in prevalence of allergies. Anthroposophic children had a

far less prevalence of atopic diseases in childhood.

2. Anon. Post-infectious encephalitis: a problem of increasing importance.

JAMA 1929; 92:1523-4.

4. Hoffman , Naughteen Eileen R. Abuse or metabolic disorder. Arch Dis

Child 1998; 78:395.

http://adc.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/archdischil d%3b78/4/395g

5. Asztalos E, et al. Incidence of adverse effects from routine vaccination In

premature infants. Pediatric Res 1996; 39:293A.

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7. Beckenhauer W, et al. Immunosuppression with combined vaccines. J Am Vet

Med Assoc 1983; 183(4):389-90

8. Beeler J, Varricchio F, Wise R. Thrombocytopenia after immunization with

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11. Blumstein G, et al. Peripheral neuropathy following tetanus toxoid

administration. JAMA 1966; 198:1030-1.

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of meningococcal serogorup C conjugate vaccine administered 2, 3 and 4 months of

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Service Workshop on Hypotonic-Hyporesponsive Episode (HHE) following pertussis

immunization. Pediatrics 1998; 102:1201-2.

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Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine 1997; 151:255-9.

15. Brezin A, Massin-Korobelnik P, Boudin M, Gaudric A, et al. Acute posterior

multifocal placoid pigment epitheliopathy after hepatitis B vaccine. Arch of

Ophthal 1995; 133:297-00.

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vaccine. Lancet 1993; 342:563-4.

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The Story of Baby Alan; http://www.woodmed.com/ShakenBabyAlan.htm. 7/9/2000.

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vaccine. Pediatrics 1948; 1(4):437-39.

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1992; 146:36.

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safety monitoring in the US. Pediatrics 1997; 99(6):765-73.

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immunized population of children, N Engl J Med Jul 7, 1994; 331(1):16-21.

24. Christie, Cecilia D. The 1993 epidemic of pertussis in Cincinnati —

resurgence of disease in a highly immunized population of children. Presented in

abstract form at the meeting at the society for pediatric research, Seattle May

3, 1994.

Abstract: In 784 DT and 15,752 DTP immunizations given to children 0 to 6 years

of age who were prospectively studied for reactions occurring within 48 hours

following immunization, minor reactions were significantly more frequent

following DTP vaccine. The ratio of reaction rates associated with DTP and DT

immunizations (DTP/DT) for selected local and systemic reactions was as follows:

local redness, 37.4%/7.6%; local swelling, 40.7%/7.6%; pain, 50.9%/9.9%; fever,

31.5%/14.9%; drowsiness, 31.5%/14.9%; fretfulness, 53.4%/22.6%; vomiting,

6.2%/2.6%; anorexia, 20.9%/7.0% and persistent crying, 3.1%/0.7%. Following DTP

immunization nine children developed convulsions and nine developed hypotonic

hyporesponsive episodes. No sequelae were detected following these reactions.

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