Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 I have always encourage my babies to sleep on their sides as newborns but they sleep better on their stomach so end up that way eventually. I have never worried much about it. ~Lanie On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:41 AM, kellymac92 <cs-mom@...> wrote: > I've read a lot about the SIDS/DPT connection and have begun to > believe that sleeping on the stomach has nothing to do with SIDS, and > that's it's all the DPT. Just wondering if anyone here thinks it's > safe to let a newborn sleep on their stomach if they don't get the DPT > shot. 30 years ago doctors told mothers to NEVER let babies sleep on > their backs, and now that's all we are told to do. My son never slept > well on his back and therefore had to sleep in a swing for 5 months. > Once he was good at rolling over, I let him sleep on his stomach and > he slept through the night! I would like to let my new one sleep on > his stomach if he can't stay asleep on his back, but am a little > worried about SIDS. Maybe he'd be okay since we aren't doing DPT?? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 I was completely paranoid about allowing my daughter to sleep on her stomach but she won't sleep any other way and she is just turned a year old today and is perfectly healthy. She is also completely unvaccinated. Maybe there is a corelation? Does your baby sleep on his/her stomach? I've read a lot about the SIDS/DPT connection and have begun to believe that sleeping on the stomach has nothing to do with SIDS, and that's it's all the DPT. Just wondering if anyone here thinks it's safe to let a newborn sleep on their stomach if they don't get the DPT shot. 30 years ago doctors told mothers to NEVER let babies sleep on their backs, and now that's all we are told to do. My son never slept well on his back and therefore had to sleep in a swing for 5 months. Once he was good at rolling over, I let him sleep on his stomach and he slept through the night! I would like to let my new one sleep on his stomach if he can't stay asleep on his back, but am a little worried about SIDS. Maybe he'd be okay since we aren't doing DPT?? <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} ..bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-reco { margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} #ygrp-reco #reco-head { font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;} #reco-grpname{ font-weight:bold;margin-top:10px;} #reco-category{ font-size:77%;} #reco-desc{ font-size:77%;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} ..MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} ..replbq{margin:4;} --> ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 From birth, My daughter (almost 5mth) could only sleep on her stomach... In the beginning I was paranoid and constantly checking in to make sure she was breathing and even went as far as buying one of those mattress (sensor) monitors. Only used it for 2-3wks. She sleeps better on her tummy - and guess what.. mommy and daddy sleep better as a result too :-) I do agree that SIDS is more likely to be vaccine related. Arianna Mojica- (UCC 1-207/1-103) ~~~ " All rights not demanded are presumed waived " . ~ Thurston Re: Does your baby sleep on his/her stomach? I have always encourage my babies to sleep on their sides as newborns but they sleep better on their stomach so end up that way eventually. I have never worried much about it. ~Lanie On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:41 AM, kellymac92 <cs-momhotmail (DOT) com> wrote: > I've read a lot about the SIDS/DPT connection and have begun to > believe that sleeping on the stomach has nothing to do with SIDS, and > that's it's all the DPT. Just wondering if anyone here thinks it's > safe to let a newborn sleep on their stomach if they don't get the DPT > shot. 30 years ago doctors told mothers to NEVER let babies sleep on > their backs, and now that's all we are told to do. My son never slept > well on his back and therefore had to sleep in a swing for 5 months. > Once he was good at rolling over, I let him sleep on his stomach and > he slept through the night! I would like to let my new one sleep on > his stomach if he can't stay asleep on his back, but am a little > worried about SIDS. Maybe he'd be okay since we aren't doing DPT?? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 My second son would only sleep on his stomach as a newborn if he wasn't in a swing. This was in 1992 just when it was hitting the news about how this could cause SIDS. He also had three DPT's as an infant--and I mean the old one, not the " new and improved " DTaP. I remember being worried but more tired than worried. He slept with me so that took a lot of the worry off, too. He nursed so I was in sync with his cycles. I think that has a lot to do with it, too--nursing, co-sleeping. I wouldn't think a thing of the positions, except obviously to watch to see his face is kept clear of blankets, etc. Winnie Does your baby sleep on his/her stomach? Vaccinations > I've read a lot about the SIDS/DPT connection and have begun to > believe that sleeping on the stomach has nothing to do with > SIDS, and > that's it's all the DPT. Just wondering if anyone here thinks > it's > safe to let a newborn sleep on their stomach if they don't get > the DPT > shot. 30 years ago doctors told mothers to NEVER let babies > sleep on > their backs, and now that's all we are told to do. My son never > slept > well on his back and therefore had to sleep in a swing for 5 > months. > Once he was good at rolling over, I let him sleep on his stomach > and > he slept through the night! I would like to let my new one sleep > on > his stomach if he can't stay asleep on his back, but am a little > worried about SIDS. Maybe he'd be okay since we aren't doing DPT?? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Oh, and ironically, for the past 15 years, he's always slept on his back. Winnie Does your baby sleep on his/her stomach? > Vaccinations > > > I've read a lot about the SIDS/DPT connection and have begun > to > > believe that sleeping on the stomach has nothing to do with > > SIDS, and > > that's it's all the DPT. Just wondering if anyone here thinks > > it's > > safe to let a newborn sleep on their stomach if they don't get > > the DPT > > shot. 30 years ago doctors told mothers to NEVER let babies > > sleep on > > their backs, and now that's all we are told to do. My son > never > > slept > > well on his back and therefore had to sleep in a swing for 5 > > months. > > Once he was good at rolling over, I let him sleep on his > stomach > > and > > he slept through the night! I would like to let my new one > sleep > > on > > his stomach if he can't stay asleep on his back, but am a > little > > worried about SIDS. Maybe he'd be okay since we aren't doing DPT?? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 The risk of SIDS is associated with EVERY vaccine. In my opinion, the majority of SIDS cases are vaccine-induced these days because it is listed as an adverse reaction for every infant vaccine. I have also heard of babies dying in mothers' arms shortly after the Hep B vaccine (some as early as 15 min later). The doctor(s) then labeled the cause of death SIDS despite the fact that the baby was not even in a bed!! With that said, decades ago (before vaccination came about), babies were placed in unsafe sleeping conditions which could have very well have been the blame in previous years. Another important point that I wanted to mention is that mercury can only be excreted from the body by using the body's bile. Well, an infant does not produce bile until roughly 6 mo. of age and there still is mercury in the majority of vaccines (even mercury free). Does this same rule of them apply to all other toxins? I am still investigating that. Does anyone else know? > > I've read a lot about the SIDS/DPT connection and have begun to > believe that sleeping on the stomach has nothing to do with SIDS, and > that's it's all the DPT. Just wondering if anyone here thinks it's > safe to let a newborn sleep on their stomach if they don't get the DPT > shot. 30 years ago doctors told mothers to NEVER let babies sleep on > their backs, and now that's all we are told to do. My son never slept > well on his back and therefore had to sleep in a swing for 5 months. > Once he was good at rolling over, I let him sleep on his stomach and > he slept through the night! I would like to let my new one sleep on > his stomach if he can't stay asleep on his back, but am a little > worried about SIDS. Maybe he'd be okay since we aren't doing DPT?? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 My mother raise my sisters and I in the 60's and 70's. At that time, the doctors told her to put us on our stomachs in case we threw up. His reasoning was that we would not suffocate on our own vomit then. So all four of us slept on our stomachs as infants. I know the trend now is to put them on their backs. Unfortunately, some babies don't like that. I also read quite a bit about SIDS. I think the vaccines do play a role, especially in premies. There are other factors of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 In a message dated 4/29/2008 5:18:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vidamarino@... writes: believe that mattress fumes may have something to do with it I think this might be the case too. We have a mattress cover. slept on her stomach from 2 months on. I didn't worry. I'll probably put my next one on tummy from beginning. Holly **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 My son stopped breathing the day after his 2 month shots. He was on his back taking a nap. Obviously in his case position had nothing to do with it. Luckily I did have one of those sensor monitors and was able to get to him quickly and rouse him. With my daughter I swaddled her and propped her on her side with a rolled up receiving blanket and she slept like an angel. She will be 9 months old Friday and almost always sleeps on her stomach. Marie Quisenberry leesamarie2828@... Does your baby sleep on his/her stomach? Vaccinations > I've read a lot about the SIDS/DPT connection and have begun to > believe that sleeping on the stomach has nothing to do with > SIDS, and > that's it's all the DPT. Just wondering if anyone here thinks > it's > safe to let a newborn sleep on their stomach if they don't get > the DPT > shot. 30 years ago doctors told mothers to NEVER let babies > sleep on > their backs, and now that's all we are told to do. My son never > slept > well on his back and therefore had to sleep in a swing for 5 > months. > Once he was good at rolling over, I let him sleep on his stomach > and > he slept through the night! I would like to let my new one sleep > on > his stomach if he can't stay asleep on his back, but am a little > worried about SIDS. Maybe he'd be okay since we aren't doing DPT?? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 I have always held a firm belief that SIDS is what they label a vaccine-related death when they don't want to blame the vaccine (any vaccine, not just DPT/DTaP). A way to keep things " neat and tidy " on the vaccine front, so to speak. My two-year-old always slept on his stomach as a newborn - he wouldn't sleep any other way. My newborn now seems to be a stomach sleeper too... I think it helps move gas out of the stomach better. I should note that I am a co-sleeper, too, which helps take a lot of the worry out of the SIDS thing for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 ABSOLUTELY, ROLL THE BABY OVER (on his tummy) AND LET BOTH OF YOU GET A WONDERFUL NIGHT'S SLEEP. I am a labor and delivery/pediatric nurse and have been for 10 years. " The Establishment " insists that I " educate " all parents about the " back only thing, " and I absolutely refuse. Especially with a spitty baby this is an extremely dangerous practice. I just tell parents to place the baby is whatever position is comfortable for the baby (go figure - can you imagine the lack of sleep all of us would have if someone tied us down into one position and that being our most uncomfortable position - and told us to have a good night's sleep.) Unfortunately, when it comes to OUR kids and " THE EXPERTS " common sense has gone out the window. I have 7 children (ages 24, 22, 18, 8, 8, 6, and 2). With the first three (born from 1984 - 1990) I was told (and agreed with) the belly baby fad. In 1999 my twins were born and I was a postpartum nurse who instructed people on the " side is best " mentality (which I was OK with but still preferred bellies.) Well, the next baby (2001) I was a labor and delivery nurse and clinically was still telling parents of the " side lying " strategy. The nurse taking care of us (who knew my personal and professional history) came into my room, saw my baby on his side, and promptly, and somewhat indignantly, flipped him to his back and " re-educated me " to the " new data that just came out a week ago that supports the practice of 'only the back.' Well, I quickly told her of the history with my other kids and then kind of irritated like responded with " Ya know, when y'all figure out how I'm supposed to lay my SIXTH baby just let me know! " Then I promptly and in front of her flipped my baby on his tummy and said " THAT'S HOW HE'LL STAY! " My final nugget of advice: " Remember your babies are YOUR babies, not ours (those of us who work in the medical field). Do what YOU feel is best for YOUR precious little ones. " PS - I agree that DPT is probably the cause of SIDS - DO NOT VACCINIZE, STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS AS PARENTS AND GUARDIANS OF YOUR CHILDREN, AND REFUSE TO BE BULLIED PSS - Common sense - don't lay a baby on anything with lots of fluff while on the tummy - Can you say " DUH'? Hope this helps! > > I've read a lot about the SIDS/DPT connection and have begun to > believe that sleeping on the stomach has nothing to do with SIDS, and > that's it's all the DPT. Just wondering if anyone here thinks it's > safe to let a newborn sleep on their stomach if they don't get the DPT > shot. 30 years ago doctors told mothers to NEVER let babies sleep on > their backs, and now that's all we are told to do. My son never slept > well on his back and therefore had to sleep in a swing for 5 months. > Once he was good at rolling over, I let him sleep on his stomach and > he slept through the night! I would like to let my new one sleep on > his stomach if he can't stay asleep on his back, but am a little > worried about SIDS. Maybe he'd be okay since we aren't doing DPT?? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 I was always extremely worried about SIDS until recently since my baby was nearing and now is over a year old and I suppose out of the danger zone. I do too believe that vaccines cause SIDS, but also believe that mattress fumes may have something to do with it and is why younger siblings and lower income family babies (used/old mattresses are more likely to release the fumes) are more likely to die of SIDS and also why back sleeping would help. I think the vaccines completely violate the baby and then possibly the mattress fumes push over the edge completely, or it could be completely one or the other. Anyways, I DO NOT believe that babies just die for absolutely no reason or that it is such a complex and mysterious reason that even the most intelligent doctors can't figure it out. Just how the industry won't admit to vaccines being able to cause autism, they sure will not admit to vaccines causing SIDS, as that is the biggest fear of most parents and surely many more will not vaccinate if that information came out. My baby slept in his bouncer until 3 months, then I got a mattress cover from babysake to prevent any fumes and besides 4 vaccines at 2 months, did not vaccinate again, and baby slept always on stomach. I really felt these two things would definitely prevent something so tragic from happening, however, being a mom, I admit I was still worried and until my son was about 10 months (and occasionally still,) I would wake up several times in the night and place my hand on his back to make sure he was breathing. I feel silly having done that now. So does anyone know if any unvaccinated babies have ever died of SIDS??? > > > > I've read a lot about the SIDS/DPT connection and have begun to > > believe that sleeping on the stomach has nothing to do with SIDS, and > > that's it's all the DPT. Just wondering if anyone here thinks it's > > safe to let a newborn sleep on their stomach if they don't get the > DPT > > shot. 30 years ago doctors told mothers to NEVER let babies sleep on > > their backs, and now that's all we are told to do. My son never slept > > well on his back and therefore had to sleep in a swing for 5 months. > > Once he was good at rolling over, I let him sleep on his stomach and > > he slept through the night! I would like to let my new one sleep on > > his stomach if he can't stay asleep on his back, but am a little > > worried about SIDS. Maybe he'd be okay since we aren't doing DPT?? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 With my first child, I didn't know about the vaccine dangers. I was always trying to keep my baby on her back. By the time I had my second, I was not vaccinating at all, and had no fear. I found my children slept more soundly on their stomach. I personally believe, that the mattress chemicals could aggravate respiratory problems. But that vaccines are the trigger. In other words, they cause the respiratory problems in the first place. It is important to keep toxic chemicals away from our children and ourselves. But I don't think a mattress alone is the deadly factor. And having a blanket over a face is not going to suffocate anyone, unless it is literally wrapped around to block out the air. A normal healthy baby, with no respiratory issues, should be safe and sound. Also, my motherly instinct kept me alert to my baby even during sleep. I have always been able to wake regularly, always just before feeding. My girls never had to cry for a feed, as I was always there when they stirred. Probably why a lot of us suffer post natal, because we can't get the quality sleep. We never co-slept much. But my babies have always been within arms reach in the early months, and only a few feet away, once in a cot. Thats just how I feel anyway. I can understand the fear factor though. None of us ever want any harm to come to our children. We can never be completely worry free. We have a dam on our property, which is a worry for me. Thankfully it is empty most of the year. Oh, can't forget the snakes either. Fieldman Re: Does your baby sleep on his/her stomach? I have always held a firm belief that SIDS is what they label a vaccine-related death when they don't want to blame the vaccine (any vaccine, not just DPT/DTaP). A way to keep things " neat and tidy " on the vaccine front, so to speak. My two-year-old always slept on his stomach as a newborn - he wouldn't sleep any other way. My newborn now seems to be a stomach sleeper too... I think it helps move gas out of the stomach better. I should note that I am a co-sleeper, too, which helps take a lot of the worry out of the SIDS thing for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 So does anyone know if any unvaccinated babies have ever died of SIDS??? EXCELLENT QUESTION. I WAS WONDERING THIS MYSELF. > > > > > > I've read a lot about the SIDS/DPT connection and have begun to > > > believe that sleeping on the stomach has nothing to do with SIDS, > and > > > that's it's all the DPT. Just wondering if anyone here thinks > it's > > > safe to let a newborn sleep on their stomach if they don't get > the > > DPT > > > shot. 30 years ago doctors told mothers to NEVER let babies sleep > on > > > their backs, and now that's all we are told to do. My son never > slept > > > well on his back and therefore had to sleep in a swing for 5 > months. > > > Once he was good at rolling over, I let him sleep on his stomach > and > > > he slept through the night! I would like to let my new one sleep > on > > > his stomach if he can't stay asleep on his back, but am a little > > > worried about SIDS. Maybe he'd be okay since we aren't doing DPT?? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Thats it. We can do so many things to keep our babies safe, just by using common sense. And I always found that I was worried about my baby choking on spit, when laying on her back. So found myself way more comfortable letting my second lay however she wanted. She actually had a rather uncomfortable looking way of laying on her side with her back and head arched back. But she grew out of that after about 8 months. Fieldman Re: Does your baby sleep on his/her stomach? PSS - Common sense - don't lay a baby on anything with lots of fluff while on the tummy - Can you say " DUH'? Hope this helps! Recent Activity a.. 42New Members b.. 3New Links c.. 5New Files Visit Your Group Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Check out the Y! Groups blog Stay up to speed on all things Groups! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 My daughter wouldn't spend more than a half hour asleep on her back, but slept for hours on her stomach. The one thing other than vaccines I would highly recommend investing in is a mattress cover unless you have an organic mattress. - http://www.preventcribdeath.com/ It has been proven that the toxins in mattresses cause SIDS as well. C _____ From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On Behalf Of kellymac92 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:42 AM Vaccinations Subject: Does your baby sleep on his/her stomach? I've read a lot about the SIDS/DPT connection and have begun to believe that sleeping on the stomach has nothing to do with SIDS, and that's it's all the DPT. Just wondering if anyone here thinks it's safe to let a newborn sleep on their stomach if they don't get the DPT shot. 30 years ago doctors told mothers to NEVER let babies sleep on their backs, and now that's all we are told to do. My son never slept well on his back and therefore had to sleep in a swing for 5 months. Once he was good at rolling over, I let him sleep on his stomach and he slept through the night! I would like to let my new one sleep on his stomach if he can't stay asleep on his back, but am a little worried about SIDS. Maybe he'd be okay since we aren't doing DPT?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 I wonder if a matress pad would work? > > My daughter wouldn't spend more than a half hour asleep on her back, but > slept for hours on her stomach. The one thing other than vaccines I would > highly recommend investing in is a mattress cover unless you have an organic > mattress. - http://www.preventcribdeath.com/ > > It has been proven that the toxins in mattresses cause SIDS as well. > > C > > > > _____ > > From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On > Behalf Of kellymac92 > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:42 AM > Vaccinations > Subject: Does your baby sleep on his/her stomach? > > > > I've read a lot about the SIDS/DPT connection and have begun to > believe that sleeping on the stomach has nothing to do with SIDS, and > that's it's all the DPT. Just wondering if anyone here thinks it's > safe to let a newborn sleep on their stomach if they don't get the DPT > shot. 30 years ago doctors told mothers to NEVER let babies sleep on > their backs, and now that's all we are told to do. My son never slept > well on his back and therefore had to sleep in a swing for 5 months. > Once he was good at rolling over, I let him sleep on his stomach and > he slept through the night! I would like to let my new one sleep on > his stomach if he can't stay asleep on his back, but am a little > worried about SIDS. Maybe he'd be okay since we aren't doing DPT?? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 > > I am not sure if this has been mentioned, since I am just catching up on > the thread but I always thought it was interesting the the peak of SIDS > incidents happen between 2 and 4 months....hmm, what happens then??? > I have also read about the mattress connection. It seems like SIDS is toxin related. Children probably have a better chance withstanding the toxin in the mattress if they aren't overloaded with vaccines?? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 I believe the toxins would get through it. Also the mattress pad would have to be made out of wool or some other organic non-treated material. C _____ From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On Behalf Of kellymac92 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:34 PM Vaccinations Subject: Re: Does your baby sleep on his/her stomach? I wonder if a matress pad would work? > > My daughter wouldn't spend more than a half hour asleep on her back, but > slept for hours on her stomach. The one thing other than vaccines I would > highly recommend investing in is a mattress cover unless you have an organic > mattress. - http://www.preventc <http://www.preventcribdeath.com/> ribdeath.com/ > > It has been proven that the toxins in mattresses cause SIDS as well. > > C > > > > _____ > > From: Vaccinations@ <mailto:Vaccinations%40> [mailto:Vaccinations@ <mailto:Vaccinations%40> ] On > Behalf Of kellymac92 > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:42 AM > Vaccinations@ <mailto:Vaccinations%40> > Subject: Does your baby sleep on his/her stomach? > > > > I've read a lot about the SIDS/DPT connection and have begun to > believe that sleeping on the stomach has nothing to do with SIDS, and > that's it's all the DPT. Just wondering if anyone here thinks it's > safe to let a newborn sleep on their stomach if they don't get the DPT > shot. 30 years ago doctors told mothers to NEVER let babies sleep on > their backs, and now that's all we are told to do. My son never slept > well on his back and therefore had to sleep in a swing for 5 months. > Once he was good at rolling over, I let him sleep on his stomach and > he slept through the night! I would like to let my new one sleep on > his stomach if he can't stay asleep on his back, but am a little > worried about SIDS. Maybe he'd be okay since we aren't doing DPT?? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Children probably have a better chance withstanding the toxin in > the mattress if they aren't overloaded with vaccines?? > EXACTLY WHAT I'VE THOUGHT ALL ALONG. VACCINES DAMAGED MY SON'S NATURAL ABILITY TO RID HIS BODY OF TOXINS SUCH AS LEAD AND MERCURY THAT MOST PEOPLE CAN GET RID OF WITHOUT ANY TROUBLE. > > > > > I am not sure if this has been mentioned, since I am just catching up on > > the thread but I always thought it was interesting the the peak of SIDS > > incidents happen between 2 and 4 months....hmm, what happens then??? > > > > I have also read about the mattress connection. It seems like SIDS is toxin > related. Children probably have a better chance withstanding the toxin in > the mattress if they aren't overloaded with vaccines?? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 I found these, thought they were interesting: http://www.prevent-sids.org/sids-and-vaccines.htm http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/coulter/sids.html http://www.whale.to/vaccine/butler.html http://www.whale.to/vaccines/scheibner1.html These guys are just bloomin idiots: http://sids-network.org/experts/immunize.htm > > So does anyone know if any unvaccinated babies have ever died of > SIDS??? > > EXCELLENT QUESTION. I WAS WONDERING THIS MYSELF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 I'm not sure, but I think SIDS, crib death, cot death, etc. has been around since the beginning of time. I do think that the risk has increased dramatically and is correlated with environmental factors such as vaccinations, mattresses, tobacco use, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 well, for my oldests first 3 weeks hed ONLY sleep on my chest...it was then i realized it wasnt me he needed, it was simply that he was on his belly. being a new mom i was buggin out about putinghim on tummy, but thats the only way he'd sleep...same with #2 and #3. None of them wanted to sleep on their backs, only on their tummys. fgranted i co slept with #2 and #3, so their position was irrelevant.... i think the main concern with sleeping on tummys is that theyll get face down and be unable to turn their head for air, as well as theyll sleep much deeper when on their tummies, leading them to foget to breath...same deal as being fressed to warm. > > I've read a lot about the SIDS/DPT connection and have begun to > believe that sleeping on the stomach has nothing to do with SIDS, and > that's it's all the DPT. Just wondering if anyone here thinks it's > safe to let a newborn sleep on their stomach if they don't get the DPT > shot. 30 years ago doctors told mothers to NEVER let babies sleep on > their backs, and now that's all we are told to do. My son never slept > well on his back and therefore had to sleep in a swing for 5 months. > Once he was good at rolling over, I let him sleep on his stomach and > he slept through the night! I would like to let my new one sleep on > his stomach if he can't stay asleep on his back, but am a little > worried about SIDS. Maybe he'd be okay since we aren't doing DPT?? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 When you think about it, putting them on their backs is daft given that their reason is to stop them choking on vomit. Think about first aid - when you put someone in the recovery position - arguably for the same reason - you place them so that they *must* stay lying face down. Alright, not directly on the stomach, but I'm sure you see my point? Sue x Thats it. We can do so many things to keep our babies safe, just by using common sense. And I always found that I was worried about my baby choking on spit, when laying on her back. So found myself way more comfortable letting my second lay however she wanted. She actually had a rather uncomfortable looking way of laying on her side with her back and head arched back. But she grew out of that after about 8 months. Fieldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 I wrote an article about SIDS, vaccines and toxic gases in mattresses. Scroll down to the second part - the link that says Factors that may Increase the Risk of Crib Death (including the vaccination link). http://www.healthychild.com/SIDS-crib-death-cause.htm Jane Jane Sheppard Healthy Child <http://www.healthychild.com/> http://www.healthychild.com Subscribe to our free Healthy Child newsletter to receive kids natural health articles and vital information to protect your child's health: <http://www.healthychild.com/kids-health-natural-holistic.htm> http://www.healthychild.com/kids-health-natural-holistic.htm <Vaccinations/message/116629;_ylc=X3oDMTJxM2Z2 M3NvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE1NjU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTEyNjE3MQRtc2dJZAMxMTY2 MjkEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTIwOTUzNzI3Mw--> Re: Does your baby sleep on his/her stomach? Posted by: " kellymac92 " <mailto:cs-mom@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Does%20your%20baby%20sleep%20o n%20his%2Fher%20stomach%3F> cs-mom@... <kellymac92> kellymac92 Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:07 pm (PDT) Children probably have a better chance withstanding the toxin in > the mattress if they aren't overloaded with vaccines?? > EXACTLY WHAT I'VE THOUGHT ALL ALONG. VACCINES DAMAGED MY SON'S NATURAL ABILITY TO RID HIS BODY OF TOXINS SUCH AS LEAD AND MERCURY THAT MOST PEOPLE CAN GET RID OF WITHOUT ANY TROUBLE. > > > > > I am not sure if this has been mentioned, since I am just catching up on > > the thread but I always thought it was interesting the the peak of SIDS > > incidents happen between 2 and 4 months....hmm, what happens then??? > > > > I have also read about the mattress connection. It seems like SIDS is toxin > related. Children probably have a better chance withstanding the toxin in > the mattress if they aren't overloaded with vaccines?? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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