Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine book & his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and he had a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule & btands he recommends. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 At 08:42 AM 4/27/2008, you wrote: For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine book & his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and he had a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule & btands he recommends. And I would suggest that to follow his advice is dangerous. There is NO WAY he can guarantee safety when one vaccine alone will kill or injure I have seen injuries from one vaccine or multiples - as infants, toddlers, preschoolers, teens and adults. Please please - just because he, a MD recommends something is safe does not make it so. I think his book is extremely dangerous as so many of you have read it and think it is true. He is doing much harm for all of you - mark my words. Once you learn about each disease you won't have the fear that makes you think you need to get a vaccine. There is NO safe vaccine - ingredients or virus or bacteria (antigen) It is not given in a way that is safe for the immune system AND NO VACCINE gives immunity. Once you really understand all of the above, you will be free. Please, please - there is NO safe way and anyone who tells you so is leading you down a path of danger Sheri listowner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Sheri is 150% right. No one can prove any vaccine won't damage or kill, cells, tissue, or organs. Just as they can't prove that vaccines prevent any disease. For those of you that are not on sure ground, just ask your allopath or anyone for proof. This should be your question. If you stick that poison(vaccine) in my or my baby's body and we don't get a disease, prove that the reason we didn't get the disease was because of the vaccine. No matter what they say you need to understand there are millions like me that never got the vaccines and never got any serious diseases. The simple stuff like whooping cough,munps, and chicken pox, we were simply put to bed given a little chicken soup and allowed our body to take care of the problem.The kids and people who are sick and the few that die are always being given drugs. That's what puts their sick body over the edge. Its like adding more poison to an already toxic system. Jim O' Founder of S.I.N.B.A.D.--A.D.T. Shoys in body's are deadly and drugs too Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines At 08:42 AM 4/27/2008, you wrote: For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine book & his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and he had a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule & btands he recommends. And I would suggest that to follow his advice is dangerous. There is NO WAY he can guarantee safety when one vaccine alone will kill or injure I have seen injuries from one vaccine or multiples - as infants, toddlers, preschoolers, teens and adults. Please please - just because he, a MD recommends something is safe does not make it so. I think his book is extremely dangerous as so many of you have read it and think it is true. He is doing much harm for all of you - mark my words. Once you learn about each disease you won't have the fear that makes you think you need to get a vaccine.. There is NO safe vaccine - ingredients or virus or bacteria (antigen) It is not given in a way that is safe for the immune system AND NO VACCINE gives immunity. Once you really understand all of the above, you will be free. Please, please - there is NO safe way and anyone who tells you so is leading you down a path of danger Sheri listowner ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Can someone tell me if anything is happening with the conscientious exemption? I haven't heard anything about it. Is it starting to move along? Does it look as if the law might pass? Thanks Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines At 08:42 AM 4/27/2008, you wrote: For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine book & his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and he had a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule & btands he recommends. And I would suggest that to follow his advice is dangerous. There is NO WAY he can guarantee safety when one vaccine alone will kill or injure I have seen injuries from one vaccine or multiples - as infants, toddlers, preschoolers, teens and adults. Please please - just because he, a MD recommends something is safe does not make it so. I think his book is extremely dangerous as so many of you have read it and think it is true. He is doing much harm for all of you - mark my words. Once you learn about each disease you won't have the fear that makes you think you need to get a vaccine.. There is NO safe vaccine - ingredients or virus or bacteria (antigen) It is not given in a way that is safe for the immune system AND NO VACCINE gives immunity. Once you really understand all of the above, you will be free. Please, please - there is NO safe way and anyone who tells you so is leading you down a path of danger Sheri listowner ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile. / ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 jen leahy wrote: >Can someone tell me if anything is happening with the conscientious exemption? I haven't heard anything about >it. Is it starting to move along? Does it look as if the law might pass? >Thanks > What state are you in? Exemptions are different in every state. Bobbett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 What conscientious exemption? What state are you referring to? I'm a little confused, Jen. You've asked a couple of times about mandates for the flu vaccine for preschoolers vs. school aged children, and I've told you it depends on the state you live in both times. Now the question about " the conscientious exemption " which again depends on the state you live in. Sorry, but am I missing something here? Winnie Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines > > At 08:42 AM 4/27/2008, you wrote: > For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine > book & > his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and > he had > a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule & > btands he recommends. > > > > And I would suggest that to follow his advice is dangerous. > There is NO WAY he can guarantee safety when one vaccine alone will > kill or injure > > I have seen injuries from one vaccine or multiples - as infants, > toddlers, preschoolers, teens and adults. > > Please please - just because he, a MD recommends something is safe > does not make it so. I think his book is extremely dangerous as so > many of you have read it and think it is true. > He is doing much harm for all of you - mark my words. > > Once you learn about each disease you won't have the fear that makes > you think you need to get a vaccine.. > There is NO safe vaccine - ingredients or virus or bacteria (antigen) > It is not given in a way that is safe for the immune system > AND NO VACCINE gives immunity. Once you really understand all of the > above, you will be free. > > Please, please - there is NO safe way and anyone who tells you > so is > leading you down a path of danger > Sheri > listowner > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile. > / ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cs-mom@... writes: Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the whole book? The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. Its the schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at all. Here it is: Selective Vaccination Schedule: 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus 3 months: Prevnar, Hib 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus 5 months: Prevnar, Hib 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus 7 months: Prevnar, Hib 15 months: Prevnar, Hib 5 years: Tetanus Booster 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox and hep A immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a 3-dose polio series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only) 12 years: Hep B (3 doses) The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. It gives only one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here it is: Alternative Vaccine Schedule 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus 3 months: Prevnar, Hib 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus 5 months: Prevnar, Hib 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus 7 months: Prevnar, Hib 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time) 12 months: Mumps, Polio 15 months: Prevnar, Hib 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox 21 months: Flu 2 years: Ruebella, Polio 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu 5 years: MMR, Flu 6 years: Chickenpox 12 years: Tdap, HPV 12 years, 2 months: HPV 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 In a message dated 5/3/2008 10:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, daniellehunt@... writes: While they are in this research of selective vaxing they just may discover that they want to defer indefinitely. That is what happened with my husband and me. We were a delayed/selective vax family and one day we discovered we WILL NEVER vax our children with any vaccinations. I respect a person’s choice what I don't respect is when parents like my SIL don't even read or educate themselves with what vaccinations the Dr is giving their children. In her words, well they are the Dr they know best. HA **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the whole book? > > For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine book & his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and he had a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule & btands he recommends. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 At 08:42 AM 4/27/2008, you wrote: >For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine book & >his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and he >had a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule & >btands he recommends. > > And I would suggest that to follow his advice is dangerous. There is NO WAY he can guarantee safety when one vaccine alone will kill or injure I have seen injuries from one vaccine or multiples - as infants, toddlers, preschoolers, teens and adults. Please please - just because he, a MD recommends something is safe does not make it so. I think his book is extremely dangerous as so many of you have read it and think it is true. He is doing much harm for all of you - mark my words. Once you learn about each disease you won't have the fear that makes you think you need to get a vaccine. There is NO safe vaccine - ingredients or virus or bacteria (antigen) It is not given in a way that is safe for the immune system AND NO VACCINE gives immunity. Once you really understand all of the above, you will be free. Please, please - there is NO safe way and anyone who tells you so is leading you down a path of danger Sheri listowner > >--------------------------------- >Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with >Mobile. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 New Jersey Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines jen leahy wrote: >Can someone tell me if anything is happening with the conscientious exemption? I haven't heard anything about >it. Is it starting to move along? Does it look as if the law might pass? >Thanks > What state are you in? Exemptions are different in every state. Bobbett ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Why would anyone even consider having poison injected into their children? My blood runs cold and I feel so bad for the victim who is going to be poisoned when I read this sort of thing. GranolaMama5@... wrote: > > > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > cs-mom@... <mailto:cs-mom%40hotmail.com> writes: > > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the whole book? > > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. Its the > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at all. > Here it is: > > Selective Vaccination Schedule: > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib > 5 years: Tetanus Booster > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox and hep A > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a 3-dose > polio > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only) > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses) > > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. It > gives only > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here it is: > > Alternative Vaccine Schedule > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time) > 12 months: Mumps, Polio > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox > 21 months: Flu > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu > 5 years: MMR, Flu > 6 years: Chickenpox > 12 years: Tdap, HPV > 12 years, 2 months: HPV > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001 > <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I am referring to the conscientious exemption to be passed for NJ state. NJ has 2 exemptions for vaccinations, medical and religious. When I joined this group,I was under the impression, it was to inform individuals about passing the conscientious exemption law in nj. I don't know if you know about the petition that was being sent around as well? Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines > > At 08:42 AM 4/27/2008, you wrote: > For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine > book & > his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak and > he had > a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule & > btands he recommends. > > > > And I would suggest that to follow his advice is dangerous. > There is NO WAY he can guarantee safety when one vaccine alone will > kill or injure > > I have seen injuries from one vaccine or multiples - as infants, > toddlers, preschoolers, teens and adults. > > Please please - just because he, a MD recommends something is safe > does not make it so. I think his book is extremely dangerous as so > many of you have read it and think it is true. > He is doing much harm for all of you - mark my words. > > Once you learn about each disease you won't have the fear that makes > you think you need to get a vaccine.. > There is NO safe vaccine - ingredients or virus or bacteria (antigen) > It is not given in a way that is safe for the immune system > AND NO VACCINE gives immunity. Once you really understand all of the > above, you will be free. > > Please, please - there is NO safe way and anyone who tells you > so is > leading you down a path of danger > Sheri > listowner > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile. > / ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Hi Jen, I am in new jersey also (bergen county)... I believe you are asking about the status of the " philosophical exemption " ... if I am assuming correctly, as far as I know the bill is still on the table. it has not been determined yet. We are hoping it is considered soon. As for myself, i do not belong to " organized religion " but do not have any reservation using the " religious " exemption in order to protect my family. I suppose if passed the philosophical exemption will give parents who do not feel comfortable claiming a " religious " exemption other options. I personally feel more protected using the " religious " exemption as it is supported by the first constitutional amendment(freedom of religion). I am not sure if a philophical exemption would be looked at in the same manner or receive the same protection should bigpHARMa and the powers that be choose to change things. I could be wrong though but that is just my take, based on how more and more of our " so called " rights are being taken away. Arianna Mojica- (UCC 1-207/1-103) ~~~ " All rights not demanded are presumed waived " . ~ Thurston Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines jen leahy wrote: >Can someone tell me if anything is happening with the conscientious exemption? I haven't heard anything about >it. Is it starting to move along? Does it look as if the law might pass? >Thanks > What state are you in? Exemptions are different in every state. Bobbett ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile. / ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 While we don't vax I do respect those that decide that it is best for their family. People need to make their own decision based on their fear of vaccines versus fear of diseases and not be judged for their decision. While they are in this research of selective vaxing they just may discover that they want to defer indefinitely. _____ From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On Behalf Of FORCED ANARCHY Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:51 PM Vaccinations Subject: Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines Why would anyone even consider having poison injected into their children? My blood runs cold and I feel so bad for the victim who is going to be poisoned when I read this sort of thing. GranolaMama5@ <mailto:GranolaMama5%40aol.com> aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > cs-momhotmail (DOT) <mailto:cs-mom%40hotmail.com> com <mailto:cs-mom%40hotmail.com> writes: > > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the whole book? > > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. Its the > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at all. > Here it is: > > Selective Vaccination Schedule: > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib > 5 years: Tetanus Booster > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox and hep A > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a 3-dose > polio > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only) > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses) > > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. It > gives only > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here it is: > > Alternative Vaccine Schedule > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time) > 12 months: Mumps, Polio > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox > 21 months: Flu > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu > 5 years: MMR, Flu > 6 years: Chickenpox > 12 years: Tdap, HPV > 12 years, 2 months: HPV > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food. <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001> aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001 > <http://food. <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001> aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I partially agree with you because I was one of those people like your SIL with my first born and I can’t keep beating myself up for it. I was naïve and did feel that Drs. Knew best at that time and it took one thing to change my way of thinking. I actually don’t judge people for making decisions as I hope people do not judge me for making mine. I am one of 2 people in my group of friends who do not vax and I feel lucky that our friendships do not change. For many years we (parents) have been told and treated that we are not capable of taking care of own children and some still believe that. I think it is a responsibility issue when anyone chooses to do anything without researching their options whether it is vaxing, not vaxing, or buying a car. What works for one may not work for others and only you are held responsibility if your decision ends up being the incorrect one. I guess I do judge (of course not outwardly though) people in the sense that they need to take a more proactive stance in their life instead of sitting back and riding the coattails of others.. le _____ From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On Behalf Of GranolaMama5@... Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 7:24 PM Vaccinations Subject: Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines In a message dated 5/3/2008 10:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, daniellehunt@ <mailto:daniellehunt%40comcast.net> comcast.net writes: While they are in this research of selective vaxing they just may discover that they want to defer indefinitely. That is what happened with my husband and me. We were a delayed/selective vax family and one day we discovered we WILL NEVER vax our children with any vaccinations. I respect a person’s choice what I don't respect is when parents like my SIL don't even read or educate themselves with what vaccinations the Dr is giving their children. In her words, well they are the Dr they know best. HA **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food. <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001> aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Wow! Way too much in my opinion! Especially for Rotovirus. That wasn't even around when my son was born, and he never had it or anything close to it. Oh well, just my opinion. Thanks for posting his suggestions. > > > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > cs-mom@... writes: > > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the whole book? > > > > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. Its the > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at all. Here it is: > > Selective Vaccination Schedule: > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib > 5 years: Tetanus Booster > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox and hep A > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a 3- dose polio > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only) > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses) > > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. It gives only > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here it is: > > Alternative Vaccine Schedule > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time) > 12 months: Mumps, Polio > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox > 21 months: Flu > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu > 5 years: MMR, Flu > 6 years: Chickenpox > 12 years: Tdap, HPV > 12 years, 2 months: HPV > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I'm stunned out of all of the vaccines out there, he thinks rotavirus, Prevnar and Hib are critical. Glad to see he doesn't like to give newborns and young children Hep B, though. And are they back to making separate MMR vaccines to fit his alternative schedule? I thought not. While he puts down three Dtap's, the fact is the law (at least here) requires four. And all state laws require you do ALL or NONE, if there is no philosophical exemption. So, the first schedule does many parents no good. This might address need and safety (in his mind), but it does not address the issue of effectiveness. It's not guaranteed, so why get them at all? Winnie Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines Vaccinations > > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > cs-mom@... writes: > > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the > whole book? > > > > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. > Its the > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at > all. Here it is: > > Selective Vaccination Schedule: > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib > 5 years: Tetanus Booster > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox > and hep A > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a 3- > dose polio > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only) > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses) > > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. > It gives only > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here > it is: > > Alternative Vaccine Schedule > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time) > 12 months: Mumps, Polio > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox > 21 months: Flu > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu > 5 years: MMR, Flu > 6 years: Chickenpox > 12 years: Tdap, HPV > 12 years, 2 months: HPV > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new > twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 This one is a hard one for me, I honestly put forcing vaccines upon a child in the same category as allowing your child to be strapped down and forced to drink multiple types of poison. Same deadly life altering toxins, just a different method of input! le Hunt wrote: > > While we don't vax I do respect those that decide that it is best for > their > family. People need to make their own decision based on their fear of > vaccines versus fear of diseases and not be judged for their decision. > While they are in this research of selective vaxing they just may discover > that they want to defer indefinitely. > > _____ > > From: Vaccinations > <mailto:Vaccinations%40> > [mailto:Vaccinations > <mailto:Vaccinations%40>] On > Behalf Of FORCED ANARCHY > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:51 PM > Vaccinations <mailto:Vaccinations%40> > Subject: Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines > > Why would anyone even consider having poison injected into their > children? My blood runs cold and I feel so bad for the victim who is > going to be poisoned when I read this sort of thing. > > GranolaMama5@ <mailto:GranolaMama5%40aol.com> aol.com wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > cs-momhotmail (DOT) <mailto:cs-mom%40hotmail.com> com > <mailto:cs-mom%40hotmail.com> writes: > > > > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the whole book? > > > > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. Its the > > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at all. > > Here it is: > > > > Selective Vaccination Schedule: > > > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib > > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib > > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib > > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib > > 5 years: Tetanus Booster > > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox and hep A > > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a 3-dose > > polio > > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity > > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only) > > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses) > > > > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. It > > gives only > > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here it is: > > > > Alternative Vaccine Schedule > > > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib > > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib > > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib > > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time) > > 12 months: Mumps, Polio > > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib > > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox > > 21 months: Flu > > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio > > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A > > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu > > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A > > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu > > 5 years: MMR, Flu > > 6 years: Chickenpox > > 12 years: Tdap, HPV > > 12 years, 2 months: HPV > > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > > family > > favorites at AOL Food. > > (http://food. > <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001 > <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>> > aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001 > > <http://food. > <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001 > <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>> > aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 My prayer is always that people wake up and see the harm vaccines can do. This is why I spend all of my free time online trying to educate others and find support for my documentary. I am so glad to hear you moved from selective vax to non vax. GranolaMama5@... wrote: > > > In a message dated 5/3/2008 10:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > daniellehunt@... <mailto:daniellehunt%40comcast.net> writes: > > While they are in this research of selective vaxing they just may discover > that they want to defer indefinitely. > > That is what happened with my husband and me. We were a delayed/selective > vax family and one day we discovered we WILL NEVER vax our children > with any > vaccinations. I respect a person’s choice what I don't respect is > when parents > like my SIL don't even read or educate themselves with what > vaccinations the > Dr is giving their children. In her words, well they are the Dr they know > best. HA > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001 > <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I agree, le, in that people have to make decisions based on their comfort level--even if they don't research it to the degree we might. Only that family will live with the consequences of their decisions. When it comes to selectively vaccinating, though, Dr. Sears schedules are merely opinions. I hope people realize that they do not have to follow it to the letter, or that jsut because he's open to modified schedules, that means it is a good one. If I had to pick a selective vaccination schedule, you can bet I would not pick anything with pertussis in it for any age group. I do like his blood test suggestion. Very good idea. Winnie Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines > > > > Why would anyone even consider having poison injected into their > children? My blood runs cold and I feel so bad for the victim > who is > going to be poisoned when I read this sort of thing. > > GranolaMama5@ aol.com wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > cs-momhotmail (DOT) com > writes: > > > > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the > whole book? > > > > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. > Its the > > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at > all. > > Here it is: > > > > Selective Vaccination Schedule: > > > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib > > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib > > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib > > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib > > 5 years: Tetanus Booster > > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox > and hep A > > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a > 3-dose > > polio > > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity > > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only) > > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses) > > > > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. > It > > gives only > > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here > it is: > > > > Alternative Vaccine Schedule > > > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib > > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib > > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib > > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time) > > 12 months: Mumps, Polio > > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib > > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox > > 21 months: Flu > > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio > > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A > > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu > > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A > > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu > > 5 years: MMR, Flu > > 6 years: Chickenpox > > 12 years: Tdap, HPV > > 12 years, 2 months: HPV > > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new > twists on > > family > > favorites at AOL Food. > > (http://food. > > aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001 > > > > aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Oh, okay now I see why you said that. I've seen a few petitions, but don't remember NJ in particular. That would be great, especially since NJ (where I grew up, by the way) seems to be very strict about vaccine mandates. With such a huge population, that would be real progress to get a conscientious exemption there. Winnie Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines > > > > At 08:42 AM 4/27/2008, you wrote: > > For those of you splitting vacs, check dr. sears new vaccine > > book & > > his website. Although I do not vaccinate, I heard him speak > and > > he had > > a lot of great info for everyone. He even has his own schedule & > > btands he recommends. > > > > > > > > And I would suggest that to follow his advice is dangerous. > > There is NO WAY he can guarantee safety when one vaccine alone will > > kill or injure > > > > I have seen injuries from one vaccine or multiples - as infants, > > toddlers, preschoolers, teens and adults. > > > > Please please - just because he, a MD recommends something is safe > > does not make it so. I think his book is extremely dangerous > as so > > many of you have read it and think it is true. > > He is doing much harm for all of you - mark my words. > > > > Once you learn about each disease you won't have the fear that makes > > you think you need to get a vaccine.. > > There is NO safe vaccine - ingredients or virus or bacteria > (antigen)> It is not given in a way that is safe for the immune system > > AND NO VACCINE gives immunity. Once you really understand all > of the > > above, you will be free. > > > > Please, please - there is NO safe way and anyone who tells you > > so is > > leading you down a path of danger > > Sheri > > listowner > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile. > > / ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 What about the life altering repercussions that happen when a child becomes vaccine injured? I believe in the rights of families,but there is a limit. I am a firm believer that no one has the right to do anything to another human being that could have life long negative consequences unless that person can give 100% unbiased and fully educated consent. A child is not in that position. wharrison@... wrote: > > I agree, le, in that people have to make decisions based on > their comfort level--even if they don't research it to the degree we > might. Only that family will live with the consequences of their > decisions. > > When it comes to selectively vaccinating, though, Dr. Sears schedules > are merely opinions. I hope people realize that they do not have to > follow it to the letter, or that jsut because he's open to modified > schedules, that means it is a good one. If I had to pick a selective > vaccination schedule, you can bet I would not pick anything with > pertussis in it for any age group. > > I do like his blood test suggestion. Very good idea. > > Winnie > > Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines > > > > > > > > Why would anyone even consider having poison injected into their > > children? My blood runs cold and I feel so bad for the victim > > who is > > going to be poisoned when I read this sort of thing. > > > > GranolaMama5@ aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > > cs-momhotmail (DOT) com > > writes: > > > > > > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the > > whole book? > > > > > > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. > > Its the > > > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not vax at > > all. > > > Here it is: > > > > > > Selective Vaccination Schedule: > > > > > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib > > > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib > > > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib > > > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib > > > 5 years: Tetanus Booster > > > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox > > and hep A > > > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also consider a > > 3-dose > > > polio > > > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity > > > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only) > > > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses) > > > > > > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. > > It > > > gives only > > > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here > > it is: > > > > > > Alternative Vaccine Schedule > > > > > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib > > > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib > > > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib > > > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time) > > > 12 months: Mumps, Polio > > > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib > > > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox > > > 21 months: Flu > > > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio > > > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A > > > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu > > > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A > > > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu > > > 5 years: MMR, Flu > > > 6 years: Chickenpox > > > 12 years: Tdap, HPV > > > 12 years, 2 months: HPV > > > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal > > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new > > twists on > > > family > > > favorites at AOL Food. > > > (http://food. > > > > aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001 > > > > > > aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 You are right, Ari. The religious exemption is extremely important because of the reasons you gave. If anyone ever thought the philosophical was more important and we lost the religious one, we'd be in big trouble. Winnie Re: Re:splitting up vaCcines > > jen leahy wrote: > > >Can someone tell me if anything is happening with the > conscientious exemption? I haven't heard anything about > >it. Is it starting to move along? Does it look as if the law > might pass? > >Thanks > > > What state are you in? Exemptions are different in every state. > > Bobbett > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile. > / ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Right, but that goes both ways. Do we want the government claiming that not vaccinating our kids is hurting them? It has to be up to the parents to accept or reject the intense marketing tactics of these pharmaceutical companies. It's hard to watch, though, I know. Makes me sick when I see friends of my kids going for their shots. I have to bite my tongue. Winnie Re: > Re:splitting up vaCcines > > > > > > > > > > > > Why would anyone even consider having poison injected into their > > > children? My blood runs cold and I feel so bad for the victim > > > who is > > > going to be poisoned when I read this sort of thing. > > > > > > GranolaMama5@ aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/3/2008 6:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > cs-momhotmail (DOT) com > > > writes: > > > > > > > > Can you find his vaccine schedule online without buying the > > > whole book? > > > > > > > > The first is what he thinks should be the bare bones minimum. > > > Its the > > > > schedule he suggests to parents who would otherwise not > vax at > > > all. > > > > Here it is: > > > > > > > > Selective Vaccination Schedule: > > > > > > > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > > > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib > > > > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > > > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib > > > > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > > > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib > > > > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib > > > > 5 years: Tetanus Booster > > > > 10 years: Blood tests for measles, mumps, ruebella, chickenpox > > > and hep A > > > > immunity. Consider vaccinating if not immune. Also > consider a > > > 3-dose > > > > polio > > > > series if travel to Africa or Asia is a possiblity > > > > 11 years: HPV (3 doses, girls only) > > > > 12 years: Hep B (3 doses) > > > > > > > > The second shedule includes all the shots but spaces them out. > > > It > > > > gives only > > > > one aluminum containing shot at a time (brand depending). Here > > > it is: > > > > > > > > Alternative Vaccine Schedule > > > > > > > > 2 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > > > 3 months: Prevnar, Hib > > > > 4 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > > > 5 months: Prevnar, Hib > > > > 6 months: Dtap, Rotavirus > > > > 7 months: Prevnar, Hib > > > > 9 months: Polio, Flu (2 doses if first time) > > > > 12 months: Mumps, Polio > > > > 15 months: Prevnar, Hib > > > > 18 months: Dtap, Chicken pox > > > > 21 months: Flu > > > > 2 years: Ruebella, Polio > > > > 2 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A > > > > 3 years: Hep B, Measles, Flu > > > > 3 years, 6 months: Hep B, Hep A > > > > 4 years: Dtap, Polio, Flu > > > > 5 years: MMR, Flu > > > > 6 years: Chickenpox > > > > 12 years: Tdap, HPV > > > > 12 years, 2 months: HPV > > > > 13 years: HPV, Meningococcal > > > > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new > > > twists on > > > > family > > > > favorites at AOL Food. > > > > (http://food. > > > > > > aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001 > > > > > > > > aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>) > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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