Re: bad experience this am @ doc...

[Guest guest]

Shari, I am soooo sorry. I went through almost the exact same thing

a few weeks ago. I went to an Infectious Disease Doctor because

that's what Dr. Blais advised me to do. He was a huge jerk. He kept

looking at me weird and chewing on his fingers. I told him to call

Dr. Blais and showed him the report and he just kept staring at me.

I made a 2nd appt because I was sure that after talking to Dr. Blais,

he would know what to do. When I went back, he told me he didn't

call him! I said why? And he told me because he went on the

Internet and found all the " studies " that prove that implants don't

make women sick and blah blah blah. I left there crying too. He

ordered a bunch of tests and did agree to order the Mycoplasma test,

but I tore up the orders and didn't go back. These doctors are not

there to help us. I don't know what they do, but they are of no use

to us. I ended up going back to my gynecologist and he ordered the

mycoplasma test. He'll order just about anything for me. I'm lucky

to have him, but he's limited in what he can treat since he's a gyn.

I hope you find someone that will help you.

Pam

> I just came back from my much anticipated infectious disease doc

appt - it

> was a nightmare. I am sooooo mad!! within 5 minutes she was

saying she

> couldn't help me. The minute I mentioned the implants that was

it. I showed her

> blais' report and she wouldn't look at it. I showed her pics of

the moldy

> implants and she said " so what " . she said that she doesn't believe

in silicone

> toxicity and the candida problem. I mainly went to try to get

resolve for my

> sinus problems and she wouldn't do any testing at all. She wouldn't

even listen to

> me. aghhhh!!! I am so tired of this treatment. I waited 6 weeks

for this

> appt, drove almost an hour to get there to be told that I am an

idiot and full

> of crap. I wanted to get a test for mold, mycoplasma, silicone,

and candida

> and she refused to do any of it. I made her give me my co-pay back

before I

> left & wanted to call her a b%^ & h but refrained. I find the

ignorance so hard to

> believe in this medical field!!! I left there crying. I don't

know what to

> do now. I have to see someone about these issues so I can be

treated, but

> where do I go? i was thinking of maybe going to Atlanta to see dr.

Kolb - does

> she perform these tests? What types of treatment does she offer? I

am so

> frustrated now.

> thanks

> love

> shari

[Guest guest]

I had a rheumatologist tell me that implants do not cause illnesses and that I needed to go to my psychiatrist and request more intensive psychotherapy.

From: " Pam " <nannapam3103@...>

Reply-

Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:52:47 -0000

Subject: Re: bad experience this am @ doc...

Shari, I am soooo sorry. I went through almost the exact same thing

a few weeks ago. I went to an Infectious Disease Doctor because

that's what Dr. Blais advised me to do. He was a huge jerk. He kept

looking at me weird and chewing on his fingers. I told him to call

Dr. Blais and showed him the report and he just kept staring at me.

I made a 2nd appt because I was sure that after talking to Dr. Blais,

he would know what to do. When I went back, he told me he didn't

call him! I said why? And he told me because he went on the

Internet and found all the " studies " that prove that implants don't

make women sick and blah blah blah. I left there crying too. He

ordered a bunch of tests and did agree to order the Mycoplasma test,

but I tore up the orders and didn't go back. These doctors are not

there to help us. I don't know what they do, but they are of no use

to us. I ended up going back to my gynecologist and he ordered the

mycoplasma test. He'll order just about anything for me. I'm lucky

to have him, but he's limited in what he can treat since he's a gyn.

I hope you find someone that will help you.

Pam

> I just came back from my much anticipated infectious disease doc

appt - it

> was a nightmare. I am sooooo mad!! within 5 minutes she was

saying she

> couldn't help me. The minute I mentioned the implants that was

it. I showed her

> blais' report and she wouldn't look at it. I showed her pics of

the moldy

> implants and she said " so what " . she said that she doesn't believe

in silicone

> toxicity and the candida problem. I mainly went to try to get

resolve for my

> sinus problems and she wouldn't do any testing at all. She wouldn't

even listen to

> me. aghhhh!!! I am so tired of this treatment. I waited 6 weeks

for this

> appt, drove almost an hour to get there to be told that I am an

idiot and full

> of crap. I wanted to get a test for mold, mycoplasma, silicone,

and candida

> and she refused to do any of it. I made her give me my co-pay back

before I

> left & wanted to call her a b%^ & h but refrained. I find the

ignorance so hard to

> believe in this medical field!!! I left there crying. I don't

know what to

> do now. I have to see someone about these issues so I can be

treated, but

> where do I go? i was thinking of maybe going to Atlanta to see dr.

Kolb - does

> she perform these tests? What types of treatment does she offer? I

am so

> frustrated now.

> thanks

> love

> shari

[Guest guest]

Guess who I think needs the psychiatrist??

Lynda

At 04:30 PM 4/22/2004, you wrote:

>I had a rheumatologist tell me that implants do not cause illnesses and

>that I needed to go to my psychiatrist and request more intensive

>psychotherapy.

>

>From: " Pam " <nannapam3103@...>

>Reply-

>Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:52:47 -0000

>

>Subject: Re: bad experience this am @ doc...

>

>

>Shari, I am soooo sorry. I went through almost the exact same thing

>a few weeks ago. I went to an Infectious Disease Doctor because

>that's what Dr. Blais advised me to do. He was a huge jerk. He kept

>looking at me weird and chewing on his fingers. I told him to call

>Dr. Blais and showed him the report and he just kept staring at me.

>I made a 2nd appt because I was sure that after talking to Dr. Blais,

>he would know what to do. When I went back, he told me he didn't

>call him! I said why? And he told me because he went on the

>Internet and found all the " studies " that prove that implants don't

>make women sick and blah blah blah. I left there crying too. He

>ordered a bunch of tests and did agree to order the Mycoplasma test,

>but I tore up the orders and didn't go back. These doctors are not

>there to help us. I don't know what they do, but they are of no use

>to us. I ended up going back to my gynecologist and he ordered the

>mycoplasma test. He'll order just about anything for me. I'm lucky

>to have him, but he's limited in what he can treat since he's a gyn.

>I hope you find someone that will help you.

>

>Pam

>

>

> > I just came back from my much anticipated infectious disease doc

>appt - it

> > was a nightmare. I am sooooo mad!! within 5 minutes she was

>saying she

> > couldn't help me. The minute I mentioned the implants that was

>it. I showed her

> > blais' report and she wouldn't look at it. I showed her pics of

>the moldy

> > implants and she said " so what " . she said that she doesn't believe

>in silicone

> > toxicity and the candida problem. I mainly went to try to get

>resolve for my

> > sinus problems and she wouldn't do any testing at all. She wouldn't

>even listen to

> > me. aghhhh!!! I am so tired of this treatment. I waited 6 weeks

>for this

> > appt, drove almost an hour to get there to be told that I am an

>idiot and full

> > of crap. I wanted to get a test for mold, mycoplasma, silicone,

>and candida

> > and she refused to do any of it. I made her give me my co-pay back

>before I

> > left & wanted to call her a b%^ & h but refrained. I find the

>ignorance so hard to

> > believe in this medical field!!! I left there crying. I don't

>know what to

> > do now. I have to see someone about these issues so I can be

>treated, but

> > where do I go? i was thinking of maybe going to Atlanta to see dr.

>Kolb - does

> > she perform these tests? What types of treatment does she offer? I

>am so

> > frustrated now.

> > thanks

> > love

> > shari

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Shari sweetie don't feel too bad, we all have been there. You have

every right to be angry but you cannot let this one bad experience or

20 if that is how many, let you get too down. I had the same

experience, no one would test me for any of that crap either. I gave

up and just started getting well enough on my own that I was happy

and decided not to bother with it all. It is a personal choice but

for me I just kind of let time and exercise etc take me to where I am

today. If your set on further treatment,which for me meant going to

an alternative doc which my ins would not pay, and you can fork out

the $$$$ then Dr Kolb might be a good choice for you esp if you want

treatment plans and detox and testing, i think she does all that

stuff. That is why allot of women like her, and go to her, because

she does take that extra step in her office that allot of the docs

don't. I am not sure though about how much it costs. That and the

fact that I got well enough to lead a normal life made me feel it was

not worth the expense. Again though if you still feel you need

further treatment, try an alternative doc, like Kolb. Most regular

Docs are not going to help us, it is sad, but that is how it is. They

are not even really to blame, it is because of their training, I

know, I work around them. They believe what they are taught, they

have tunnel vision. It is clearly something they do not want to deal

with and since they have been told it does not exist, they refuse to

open their minds to the possibility and fear of reprisal also causes

this.

So yeah Kolb or someone into alternative stuff is probably your best

bet.

Hugs

In , halvey70@a... wrote:

> I just came back from my much anticipated infectious disease doc

appt - it

> was a nightmare. I am sooooo mad!! within 5 minutes she was

saying she

> couldn't help me. The minute I mentioned the implants that was

it. I showed her

> blais' report and she wouldn't look at it. I showed her pics of

the moldy

> implants and she said " so what " . she said that she doesn't believe

in silicone

> toxicity and the candida problem. I mainly went to try to get

resolve for my

> sinus problems and she wouldn't do any testing at all. She wouldn't

even listen to

> me. aghhhh!!! I am so tired of this treatment. I waited 6 weeks

for this

> appt, drove almost an hour to get there to be told that I am an

idiot and full

> of crap. I wanted to get a test for mold, mycoplasma, silicone,

and candida

> and she refused to do any of it. I made her give me my co-pay back

before I

> left & wanted to call her a b%^ & h but refrained. I find the

ignorance so hard to

> believe in this medical field!!! I left there crying. I don't

know what to

> do now. I have to see someone about these issues so I can be

treated, but

> where do I go? i was thinking of maybe going to Atlanta to see dr.

Kolb - does

> she perform these tests? What types of treatment does she offer? I

am so

> frustrated now.

> thanks

> love

> shari

[Guest guest]

--- I had a rheummy do the mycos test, any rheummy can do it.... I

was told to see an infectious d.doc but declined, ...nobody wants to

open up this " can of worms "

when it comes to saline implants... Its amazing that these docs have

the right to abuse us in this way... Ive gone thru hell w/docs

also... make a complaint to the AMA if you can complain about any

unprofessionalism... its hard though.. I tried to report a doc and it

said that " being rude " is not considered a legite complaint... nice

huh? consider the source and the ignorance,,, write him a letter

about us girls and that he needs to get a clue and hit the research

books and wake up.. love iggy...

do not let these docs dictate your emotion, they are not deserving of

it..... pray to let GOd guide you to a rheummy.....

In , halvey70@a... wrote:

> I just came back from my much anticipated infectious disease doc

appt - it

> was a nightmare. I am sooooo mad!! within 5 minutes she was

saying she

> couldn't help me. The minute I mentioned the implants that was

it. I showed her

> blais' report and she wouldn't look at it. I showed her pics of

the moldy

> implants and she said " so what " . she said that she doesn't believe

in silicone

> toxicity and the candida problem. I mainly went to try to get

resolve for my

> sinus problems and she wouldn't do any testing at all. She wouldn't

even listen to

> me. aghhhh!!! I am so tired of this treatment. I waited 6 weeks

for this

> appt, drove almost an hour to get there to be told that I am an

idiot and full

> of crap. I wanted to get a test for mold, mycoplasma, silicone,

and candida

> and she refused to do any of it. I made her give me my co-pay back

before I

> left & wanted to call her a b%^ & h but refrained. I find the

ignorance so hard to

> believe in this medical field!!! I left there crying. I don't

know what to

> do now. I have to see someone about these issues so I can be

treated, but

> where do I go? i was thinking of maybe going to Atlanta to see dr.

Kolb - does

> she perform these tests? What types of treatment does she offer? I

am so

> frustrated now.

> thanks

> love

> shari

[Guest guest]

I heard that one too and then when I went to the psychiatrist he was

dumbfounded and told me that I was not having mental problems that I

sounded ill to him. He went and called the rheumy and then they sent

me to another one and he was pretty nice. He would not say for sure

that it was the implants, but he listened to me and said that it was

my body and that if I felt that it was the implants, I would know

better than anyone else. He said that he thought it was possible, but

that it could be coincidence. In the end I went with my heart, and

that was explant.

hugs

In , Colleen <cfortner@e...> wrote:

> I had a rheumatologist tell me that implants do not cause illnesses

and that

> I needed to go to my psychiatrist and request more intensive

psychotherapy.

>

> From: " Pam " <nannapam3103@y...>

> Reply-

> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:52:47 -0000

>

> Subject: Re: bad experience this am @ doc...

>

>

> Shari, I am soooo sorry. I went through almost the exact same thing

> a few weeks ago. I went to an Infectious Disease Doctor because

> that's what Dr. Blais advised me to do. He was a huge jerk. He

kept

> looking at me weird and chewing on his fingers. I told him to call

> Dr. Blais and showed him the report and he just kept staring at me.

> I made a 2nd appt because I was sure that after talking to Dr.

Blais,

> he would know what to do. When I went back, he told me he didn't

> call him! I said why? And he told me because he went on the

> Internet and found all the " studies " that prove that implants don't

> make women sick and blah blah blah. I left there crying too. He

> ordered a bunch of tests and did agree to order the Mycoplasma test,

> but I tore up the orders and didn't go back. These doctors are not

> there to help us. I don't know what they do, but they are of no use

> to us. I ended up going back to my gynecologist and he ordered the

> mycoplasma test. He'll order just about anything for me. I'm lucky

> to have him, but he's limited in what he can treat since he's a gyn.

> I hope you find someone that will help you.

>

> Pam

>

>

> > I just came back from my much anticipated infectious disease doc

> appt - it

> > was a nightmare. I am sooooo mad!! within 5 minutes she was

> saying she

> > couldn't help me. The minute I mentioned the implants that was

> it. I showed her

> > blais' report and she wouldn't look at it. I showed her pics of

> the moldy

> > implants and she said " so what " . she said that she doesn't

believe

> in silicone

> > toxicity and the candida problem. I mainly went to try to get

> resolve for my

> > sinus problems and she wouldn't do any testing at all. She

wouldn't

> even listen to

> > me. aghhhh!!! I am so tired of this treatment. I waited 6 weeks

> for this

> > appt, drove almost an hour to get there to be told that I am an

> idiot and full

> > of crap. I wanted to get a test for mold, mycoplasma, silicone,

> and candida

> > and she refused to do any of it. I made her give me my co-pay

back

> before I

> > left & wanted to call her a b%^ & h but refrained. I find the

> ignorance so hard to

> > believe in this medical field!!! I left there crying. I don't

> know what to

> > do now. I have to see someone about these issues so I can be

> treated, but

> > where do I go? i was thinking of maybe going to Atlanta to see

dr.

> Kolb - does

> > she perform these tests? What types of treatment does she offer? I

> am so

> > frustrated now.

> > thanks

> > love

> > shari

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear shari

I am so so sorry. I can remember leaving more than one doctor

office crying. and refusing to leave until one of them helped me.

His solution:commit myself to the psych ward at the hospital!!!

Stress is so harmful to our bodies and how can we ever destress when

we fight this kind of crap. Don't give up. I know you won't!!

Just realize that there is a lot you can do on your own. If you

think you may have mycoplasma, try d lenolate. It kills mycoplasma

and yeast and there is a respected rheumatologist in calilfornia who

has been known to use it. I recommend EASt Park REsearch brand.

Whatever you think you have, research it and find natural ways to

combat it. that is pretty much what they will tell you to do

anyway. THERE ARE NO MAGIC BULLETS. I have been to quite a few

specialists over the years and I can tell you that they aren't that

knowledgeable. Even those who have success only have it with some

patients. I really have come to accept that we have to do our own

detective work and be our own healer. I am still highly

recommending theMaker's Diet by Jordin Rubin to give us insight into

our bodies and great guidelines on how to turn around your health

nutrition wise.

Hugs, kathy

> I just came back from my much anticipated infectious disease doc

appt - it

> was a nightmare. I am sooooo mad!! within 5 minutes she was

saying she

> couldn't help me. The minute I mentioned the implants that was

it. I showed her

> blais' report and she wouldn't look at it. I showed her pics of

the moldy

> implants and she said " so what " . she said that she doesn't

believe in silicone

> toxicity and the candida problem. I mainly went to try to get

resolve for my

> sinus problems and she wouldn't do any testing at all. She

wouldn't even listen to

> me. aghhhh!!! I am so tired of this treatment. I waited 6 weeks

for this

> appt, drove almost an hour to get there to be told that I am an

idiot and full

> of crap. I wanted to get a test for mold, mycoplasma, silicone,

and candida

> and she refused to do any of it. I made her give me my co-pay

back before I

> left & wanted to call her a b%^ & h but refrained. I find the

ignorance so hard to

> believe in this medical field!!! I left there crying. I don't

know what to

> do now. I have to see someone about these issues so I can be

treated, but

> where do I go? i was thinking of maybe going to Atlanta to see

dr. Kolb - does

> she perform these tests? What types of treatment does she offer? I

am so

> frustrated now.

> thanks

> love

> shari