Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 How do you know you have yeast in your blood? Pam > After finding out that the fungus (yeast is in my blood) not a good > thing from every thing I have been reading. It started me thinking > about my kidney. I have just spent the last 4 hours researching and > once the yeast gets into your blood stream it can effect all your > organs. Im wondering if the pain with my kidney could be related. > > I know that there are a couple of you that also have kidney pain and > nothing every showed up on tests. > > > How in the hell did the yeast get into my blood? > Was it from the implants? > > I spent alot of time researching the pills that Jim gave me and at > first all I could find was the IV version which is toxic. Than I > found the pill form which is very safe and non toxic. > > I hope this stuff works! > > I'm really a mess, considering I feel pretty good. > I am so glad I had my blood tested again, this yeast could have just > taken my body over, since I have no outward signs of yeast. > no yeast infections, no thush, nothing that would have indecated > that I had a problem with yeast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Most likely the yeast got in by creating what is called leaky gut syndrome. I had it, and tons of fungus. I believe the implants become breeding grounds for yeast, think of mold, warm, salty and dark, where it can get in and out, and multiply- due a fualty valve. The yeast becomes systemic, later on spreading throughout your body, and eating through your intenstinal wall, allowing it, and food protiens to leak through, and into your blood. Often setting off an auto immnue response, by foreign matter in the blood. The body recognizes this, and becomes "on guard" but cannot do a thing until it is fixed. Read up on leaky gut. It goes hand in hand with canditis. A good program for helping to give your body a proper environment to make it hard for yeast to survive, while flushing the kidneys, and blood, organs and liver, is the FAt Flush Plan by Louise Gittleman. I read her book, and followed it for about 6 weeks ( I have to go back on it- LAZY!) and was talking about it last month. I thnk it is a great cleansing diet and flushing one that detoxifies the body and also strenghthens your immunity while flushing out toxins stuck in our fat cells, liver and kidney. I lost 4 pounds on it (not much comparing to others) but over 7 inches that have not come back. It includes flax seed oil to gather bad fats, lots of organic cranberry juice mix to flush the kidneys, fiber drinks to flush the bowels, jumping on trampoline to stir up the lymphatic system, to dump toxins into the kidney then to the liver, and liver supplemnts to support and detox the liver. I found it interesting how much (ALot!) bad yucky stiff was in my bowels, and the smell was bad. Also that cellulite was disapearing (as that is a sign of a sluggish lymphatic system with toxin and water clogged bad fat under the skin) and how I good I felt. I was def dumping alot of stuff, and flushing. I liked, and recommend it for all the gals on the site. It is a great detox program to shed toxins, and bad fat. It will help with yeast. Let me know what you think. >From: "cricket5643000" <cricket5643000@...> >Reply- > >Subject: yeast? >Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 01:38:45 -0000 > >After finding out that the fungus (yeast is in my blood) not a good >thing from every thing I have been reading. It started me thinking >about my kidney. I have just spent the last 4 hours researching and >once the yeast gets into your blood stream it can effect all your >organs. Im wondering if the pain with my kidney could be related. > >I know that there are a couple of you that also have kidney pain and >nothing every showed up on tests. > > >How in the hell did the yeast get into my blood? >Was it from the implants? > >I spent alot of time researching the pills that Jim gave me and at >first all I could find was the IV version which is toxic. Than I >found the pill form which is very safe and non toxic. > >I hope this stuff works! > >I'm really a mess, considering I feel pretty good. >I am so glad I had my blood tested again, this yeast could have just >taken my body over, since I have no outward signs of yeast. >no yeast infections, no thush, nothing that would have indecated >that I had a problem with yeast. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Gretchen, Sandy sent this to me and it is helpful. Thank You Sandy Enzymes and Bacteria, Yeast, and Parasiteslast updated 8.25.05 Bacteria Yeast / Candida Enzymes for Fighting Yeast What About Die-off? Parasites Possible Outcomes when Adding Enzymes with Pathogens see Enzymes and Leaky gut / intestinal problems see Enzymes and VirusesThese are listed here together because a population of one often influences the populations of the others. The other common pathogen group is viruses which are discussed in a different section. There are some tests one can do to find out if bacteria or yeast is a problem, but these are known not to be 100% accurate. The test is run, and then the doc guesses if the pathogen is likely based on all results. So it isn't necessary to worry with testing for yeast unless you just want confirmation it is likely or it makes you (or spouse) feel better. Bacteria Our digestive tract has tons of bacteria. Some are beneficial and promote good health. These are called probiotics (meaning 'for life'). Other bacteria are harmful to our health. These are the bacteria that often require the need for antibiotics (meaning 'against life'). Probiotics are present in many cultured foods such as yogurt and kefir. Humans have consumed these foods for centuries. Much research confirms the multitude of beneficial aspects which probiotics confer to good health. These include: However, there is also bad bacteria that can overrun out bodies and cause illness and havoc with health. There are several ways bad bacteria can get started. Using too many antibiotics without probiotics can lead to bad bacteria overgrowth. A poor diet can also encourage bad bacteria growth. Poor elimination of waste, chronic constipation, and not enough fiber in the diet can lead to bad bacteria. Here is some info on how diet impacts bacteria growth (a nice article which also promotes their product and not specifically endorsed by this site):http://www.fruit-eze.com/education/fiber/soluble.html Bad bacteria appears to be much easier to get rid of than yeast overgrowth. Bacteria is characterized by: aggression, moodiness, irritability, 'anger' for no apparent reason sleep problems but not with the inappropriate giggling or laughter really foul smelling stools or body odor (we are talking incredible STENCH); bad breath; stinky sweat ammonia odor frequently occurs with constipation (infrequent painful stools, streaking/smearing in underwear, etc); see encopresis/chronic constipation Bacteria is composed of proteins. If you are needing to treat a bad bacteria problem, you might want to add strong proteases, such as Peptizyde. Protease enzymes tend to have a synergistic effect with antibiotics making the bacteria control more effective. Strong proteases can impact bacteria killing them off. While No-Fenol can be quite helpful with bacteria and colon problems, the die-off from No-Fenol is not nearly as pronounced as No-Fenol on yeast. No-Fenol contains cellulases which act on yeast but not bacteria. Yeast is composed of proteins and celluloses (much more cellulases involved). ResearchEnzymes and bacteria Yeast / Candida Nice overview and pictures of Candida www.fungusfocus.com Click here to see various pictures of candida yeast How Could This Happen?Chronic yeast overgrowth is a complex issues because various factors impact it and it affects health in many ways. Most people report an effective treatment involves addressing and correcting the factors that predispose an individual to candida overgrowth Factors That Promote Yeast Overgrowth: bacteria infection/antibiotics without following with probiotics lower digestive acid secretion poor diet some medications (can be hard on gut integrity) low or weakened immune system function (anything that weakens the immune system) weak or impaired liver function nutrient deficiencies chronic diseases other factors Eating a lot of processed and prepared foods can promote yeast. Many of the commonly used preservatives are antibiotics and kill of bacteria. But when you ingest these, they don't just automatically stop acting as preservatives...they can kill off the more beneficial bacteria in your gut, and leave an open door for yeast to expand and grow. http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/faq/candida.shtml ResearchEnzymes and Yeast Enzymes for Fighting Yeast There are a few enzyme products on the market that are formulated for fighting yeast (Candida) problems. You want to particularly check the label and look for these types of enzymes: proteases (target proteins) cellulases (target fiber) hemicellulases (target fiber) xylanases (target fiber) Yeast cells have tough outer shells made up of protein and cellulose. The shells may be several layers think and present a barrier to the commonly used anti-fungal medications and over-the-counter supplements. The strategy of using the yeast fighting enzymes is to decompose or break down the yeast coverings so the yeast dies. Many people dealing with yeast have found that combining an anti-fungal with a yeast enzyme product gives a powerful synergistic effect on yeast. The enzymes breakdown the coating and the anti-fungals can act more quickly and effectively in destroying yeast cells. In addition, protease enzymes can help reduce die-off discomfort because they can further breakdown the waste and residue by the dead yeast cells. You can try giving more proteases if die-off is too uncomfortable, or simply reduce the amount of enzymes and anti-fungals given (go lower-n-slower).see The Great Low-n-Slow Method with Additional Guidelines for Yeast Control Pick a combination of a yeast-fighting enzyme product: These are designed for yeast control: Candidase (Enzymedica), online and in stores Candex (Pure Essence), online and in stores Candizyme (Renew Life), online and in stores These are not designed for yeast control, but have shown to work on yeast because they contain higer amounts of fiber digesting enzymes: V-Gest (Enzymedica), online and in store No-Fenol (Houston), online Phenol Assist (Kirkman Labs), online Add a yeast fighting herb or medication or other product (some common ones below): Herbs: Grapefruit seed extract Oil of oregano Olive leaf extract Caprylic acid Pau d'arco Garlic Medications: Diflucan Fluconazole Nizoral Sporanox Lotrimin Other products: Aqua Flora (homeopathic) www.vitacost.com Start either the yeast-fighting enzyme other the anti-fungal slowly, then add in the other item. The combination of a the yeast-fighting enzymes plus yeast-killing medication or over-the-counter product has a synergist effect that is usually much more effective than either alone. This combination effect can often be quite powerful, so do start slow and watch for signs of die-off. Often a yeast control diet, or reducing sugars and starches, will also help. With yeast, common indicators are: yeast rashes somewhere else in the body: thrush on the tongue, athlete's food, vaginal irritation in girls/women intense carbohydrate cravings inappropriate uncontrollable sudden giggling or laughter (yeast by-products include alcohol so you get 'drunk-like' behavior particularly after eating carbs or sweets) poor sleep, sleep waking at night moodiness, emotionalism you don't have a reason for odd behavior about 30 minutes after eating One of the criteria for diagnosing yeast is if the person responds to yeast treatment. There are prescription yeast medications you can ask for to try (Flagyl, diflucan, etc). However, there is an over-the-counter strategy that you can try. Quite a few parents find this very effective on yeast: combine one of the herbal yeast fighters (grapefruit seed extract, oil of oregano, caprylic acid) with No-Fenol which you already have. The combination is awesome. The enzymes break the out yeast coating and then the yeast killer finishes off the yeast cell. Giving a protease product like Peptizyde will help reduce die-off symptoms too. The yeast treatment needs to be given between meals (not with meals). This way the enzymes aren't held up digesting food, then go on down through the digestive tract and attack the yeast. Start very slowly though because this can really whack yeast (more die-off and person feels miserable). When yeast is bad it can take up to 6 weeks to slowly get through the die-off phase. To help with die-off reactions, you can: give more proteases (something like Purify, Repair, Peptizyde, Peptidase Complete, Vitalzym, ViraStop, Wobenzyme, etc. between meals...like 3-4 capsules every 3-4 hours) give more vitamin C or other antioxidant to help with general detox Epsom salts baths help with calming and detox see Epsom salts lots of pure water to help flush the gunk out rest, rest, sleep, rest Activated Charcoal which helps absorb toxinssee Activated Charcoal Stair-stepping the enzymes in this way is easier to manage and just has the die-off go much more slowly and comfortably for the person. Having stools move out regularly does a lot to help detox. If constipation is a problem, consider adding some soluble magnesium to help things along. With either bacteria or yeast problems, you might want to slowly introduce a probiotic too. With colon bacteria or Clostridia, Culturelle probiotic is wonderful. This page has many resources for Candida: Candida Page What About Die-off? When a pathogen is being killed, debris and material from inside the cell may squish out, or there might be by-products produced. And just like an animal is killed and leaves a carcass behind, micro-organisms leave a dead 'body' behind. These substances need to be eliminated from our bodies. The body sees them as material that is 'toxic' and much be removed - detoxification. The debris may invoke the immune system to act as well. While this is going on, the person may feel sick in the stomach, like he has a flu, headaches, chills, or other common effects seen when the body is trying to fight off invades and clear matterthat should not be inside us. The term die-off refers to these symptoms we experience as the body tries to clean out the gunk. The exact symptoms will vary by person. This has also been called the Herxheimer effect. When you start an enzyme, medication, or supplement to get rid of a pathogen, it can be difficult to tell if immediate adverse symptoms are due to die-off or due to not tolerating the enzyme, med, or supplement itself. Try to see if the symptoms are similar to other common reactions the person has when they are ill or detoxing. Die-off can be expressed as a whole range of symptoms depending on the person. 'Flu-like' symptoms are very common. A couple of the yeast fighting enzyme products say there is 'no die-off' with enzymes. After investigating this claim, this is not meant to mean there is no possible chance that die-off with ever occur with enzymes. Afterall, if the yeast is dying there should be debris left over. Take the 'no die-off symptoms' with a grain of salt and bit a marketing. People reported die-off with various products claiming to produce no die-off. A technical person at one enzyme company relayed that the 'no die-off' is relative to the amount of die-off usually seen with prescription anti-fungals where you have a set dose that is given at set intervals. With enzymes, you can dose lower if you need to and add more enzymes in if you need to so the impact of die-off is not so uncomfortable. You can try adding more proteases too. Protease enzymes break down the waste and debris produced by the yeast cells. The proteases are supposed to be breaking down the dead cells into small amino acids or sections and detoxifying them instead of leaving large chunks of dead cell matter for the body to detox. It was advised that if die-off is too uncomfortable...add more proteases to help relieve this.If you use an enzyme product to fight yeast, you can see die-off symptoms if the die-off is happening faster than the given amount of enzymes can break down quickly. However, you can lower the enzyme dose and do it more gradually, or you can add more proteases to help relieve the discomfort. Probiotics cause die-off in bacteria and yeast for the same reasons enzymes do, but also because they are good microbes that also crowd out the bad microbes. So they have other means of causing die-off in addition to enzymes. Probiotics can also have anti-pathogen properties. If a person reacts to yogurt with live cultures, it could be the probiotics at work. Yogurt contains even more pathogen fighting elements besides just the probiotics. Enzymes, probiotics, and anti-biotics or anti-fungals work together, often synergistically. It is advised to start one thing at a time and gradually work up to recommended dosages so the impact of die-off will not be so dramatic or uncomfortable. Parasites Parasites consist of protein and related compounds like other living matter does. Parasites are usually killed off by the stomach acid if they come in with food or drink. However, if you are low on stomach acid, this can create an opening for parasites to get through. Parasites can gain access to your body through other means as well. Taking proteases whether alone or in a mix with other digestive enzymes can help kill off parasites. Research Possible Outcomes when Adding Enzymes with Pathogens When starting a bacteria or yeast control program and using enzymes, a key clue to reactions is if you see very good improvements with enzymes along with the negatives. With enzymes, there is a pattern that as long as you see good improvements with the negatives, the negatives are nearly always adjustment effects that go away on their own or are tied to die-off. It is when you only see negatives you really need to keep your eye on things. Sometimes the negative-only cases are still adjustments, but sometimes they are related to an allergy/intolerance and a different product or therapy is needed first. Interestingly, with a serious bacteria or yeast infection, you get negative-only responses because the pathogens are too strong for the enzymes given and mask any benefits. The person needs a solid yeast or bacteria treatment first, and then the benefits show through. If you get positive responses only with enzymes, that's great and you are home free. When enzymes may not be helping is when you see no change at all: nothing positive and nothing negative. Not all cases of autism and related conditions have gut/food problems. Maybe around 75% do (from estimates figures). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Go to a health food store and ask for a good candida cleanse. Garden of Life has a wonderful one called Fungal defense. I do Fungal defense every six months. I put my stepson on it for skin problems and it really does the trick for him also. foxygretchy <gretchenc@...> wrote: i have talked to donna about yeast.. does this contribute to fog anddizziness? i did the spit test kolb had her do and i have a little bitof yeast "down there" it seems and burning. can this make my healing/ symptoms worse? what do i take besides the pro biotics for this and will getting ridof yeast help my fog, etc?- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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