Re: VaCcines: We're all in this together

[Guest guest]

Russia?? Where in Russia? We don't live in Russia. How else is Russia

responsible for problems here? Why are people flying from Wisconsin to Russia

every day? Are they deliberately trying to spread disease? Maybe we should get

a Russia vaccine.

Seriously, this is so damn annoying to hear these scare tactics with info taken

out of context. How scientific is that?

Winnie

Vaccines: We're all in this together

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> I would say that this commissioner for health should have some serious

> re-education! He's been listening to Dr Offit.

>

> http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=746510

>

> Vaccines: We're all in this together

> By BEVAN K. BAKER

>

> Posted: May 3, 2008

> In 2006, a mumps outbreak sickened more than 2,500 in 11

> Midwestern states,

> with more than two dozen hospitalizations and at least 15 cases of

> meningitis or encephalitis (serious brain inflammation), four of which

> resulted in deafness. In 2004, a pertussis (whooping cough) epidemic

> sickened more than 5,000 in Wisconsin and killed two, including

> an infant.

> The 1989-1990 measles outbreak in Wisconsin sickened more than

> 1,600 people,

> caused more than 200 hospitalizations and killed six - including three

> unimmunized young children in Milwaukee.

>

> The current outbreak of measles and rubella is another in a

> series of

> warnings to Wisconsinites. These outbreaks are preventable, and

> they are

> indicators of what happens when children and adults in our

> community aren't

> immunized.

>

> Nearly 95% of Wisconsin students meet the minimum legal

> requirements for

> school immunizations. However, in Milwaukee, the situation is

> not nearly as

> good, with just over 61% of Milwaukee Public Schools students

> fully up to

> date on their minimum requirements.

>

> Why aren't 100% of Wisconsin school children immunized against

> vaccine-preventable diseases? Access to medical care is

> sometimes difficult,

> particularly in Milwaukee's inner city. Moreover, some people have

> inaccurate perceptions or believe myths about vaccines. Here are

> some of

> them:

>

> Myth 1: " These diseases aren't around anymore. " Measles is the single

> biggest worldwide cause of vaccine-preventable death in

> children, with more

> than 30 million cases and nearly 1 million deaths every year. An

> early 1990s

> outbreak of diphtheria in Russia, caused in large part by low

> vaccinationrates, caused over 5,000 deaths. These and other

> vaccine-preventable

> illnesses are just a plane ride away from Wisconsin every day of

> the year.

>

> Myth 2: " It's better to get the natural infection. " Wrong. About

> one in

> eight people with measles requires hospitalization, and one or

> two per 1,000

> will die. Up to 90% of babies born to women who have rubella during

> pregnancy will die or be born with severe birth defects. Even

> chickenpoxkilled more than 100 Americans every year before a

> vaccine became available.

> Adults account for less than 5% of chickenpox cases, but more

> than half of

> chickenpox deaths. Where do most adults get chickenpox? From

> unimmunizedchildren.

>

> Myth 3: " Vaccines are not safe and do not work. " Actually,

> vaccines are one

> of the safest and most effective medical interventions we have.

> They are

> generally between 90% and 99% effective, depending on the

> vaccine. It's true

> that mild side effects such as localized soreness, low-grade

> fever and

> irritability in infants do occur fairly frequently. But serious

> side effects

> are extremely rare (one in thousands to one in millions).

>

> Myth 4: " Vaccines can cause long-term problems. " Multiple

> studies have

> looked carefully for possible connections between vaccines and

> many chronic

> diseases such as asthma, SIDS, diabetes, autism, multiple

> sclerosis, etc.

> Autism in particular is an urgent health concern, and many

> scientists are

> working very hard to determine what causes it. However, the credible

> scientific evidence shows no link between vaccines and these

> diseases.

>

> Myth 5: " Babies are too young to get shots, especially several

> at once. " A

> baby's immune system begins working even before birth. A case of strep

> throat, for example, requires the immune system to respond to 25

> to 50

> different foreign particles ( " antigens " ), but most vaccines

> contain only a

> few antigens. Immunologists estimate that the immune system of

> even young

> infants can respond to as many as 100,000 antigens, so getting

> several shots

> at once is perfectly fine. And babies are most at risk for many

> of these

> diseases and their complications.

>

> Myth 6: " Your immune system can get 'dependent' on vaccines. "

> Actually,vaccines strengthen your natural immune system. Imagine

> your immune system

> as the security system of your body and diseases as intruders

> trying to

> break in. In essence, a vaccine shows your immune system a

> picture of these

> intruders, so it will recognize them immediately and take care

> of them

> before they can cause harm. Thus, vaccines actually help prevent

> the need

> for antibiotics and other medicines.

>

> Immunizations are one of the greatest medical achievements of

> the 20th

> century. According to a study in the Journal of the American Medical

> Association, every 1% increase in unimmunized children in a

> community causes

> more than a 10% increase in the risk of outbreaks.

> Unfortunately, these

> outbreaks often wreak their greatest havoc on those who are most

> vulnerableor those few who can't be vaccinated for medical

> reasons. And because

> vaccines - while extremely effective - aren't 100% effective, these

> outbreaks put us all at risk.

>

> Please do your part to protect yourself, your family and our

> community:Check to make sure all of your vaccines, and your

> family's vaccines, are

> completely up to date. If you're not sure, please go to your

> regular clinic

> or to your local public health department to get up to date, or

> check out

> www.milwaukee.gov/health.

>

> Bevan K. Baker is commissioner of health for the City of

> Milwaukee. Bevan K.

> Baker is commissioner of health for the City of Milwaukee.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

These myths that they have answers for, are they responding

truthfully????? Where are they getting these facts? Are they just

using scare tactics??? Please someone reassure me that these are

lies!!!!

Rina

>

> I would say that this commissioner for health should have some

serious

> re-education! He's been listening to Dr Offit.

>

> http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=746510

>

> Vaccines: We're all in this together

> By BEVAN K. BAKER

>

> Posted: May 3, 2008

> In 2006, a mumps outbreak sickened more than 2,500 in 11

Midwestern states,

> with more than two dozen hospitalizations and at least 15 cases of

> meningitis or encephalitis (serious brain inflammation), four of

which

> resulted in deafness. In 2004, a pertussis (whooping cough)

epidemic

> sickened more than 5,000 in Wisconsin and killed two, including an

infant.

> The 1989-1990 measles outbreak in Wisconsin sickened more than

1,600 people,

> caused more than 200 hospitalizations and killed six - including

three

> unimmunized young children in Milwaukee.

>

> The current outbreak of measles and rubella is another in a series

of

> warnings to Wisconsinites. These outbreaks are preventable, and

they are

> indicators of what happens when children and adults in our

community aren't

> immunized.

>

> Nearly 95% of Wisconsin students meet the minimum legal

requirements for

> school immunizations. However, in Milwaukee, the situation is not

nearly as

> good, with just over 61% of Milwaukee Public Schools students

fully up to

> date on their minimum requirements.

>

> Why aren't 100% of Wisconsin school children immunized against

> vaccine-preventable diseases? Access to medical care is sometimes

difficult,

> particularly in Milwaukee's inner city. Moreover, some people have

> inaccurate perceptions or believe myths about vaccines. Here are

some of

> them:

>

> Myth 1: " These diseases aren't around anymore. " Measles is the

single

> biggest worldwide cause of vaccine-preventable death in children,

with more

> than 30 million cases and nearly 1 million deaths every year. An

early 1990s

> outbreak of diphtheria in Russia, caused in large part by low

vaccination

> rates, caused over 5,000 deaths. These and other vaccine-

preventable

> illnesses are just a plane ride away from Wisconsin every day of

the year.

>

> Myth 2: " It's better to get the natural infection. " Wrong. About

one in

> eight people with measles requires hospitalization, and one or two

per 1,000

> will die. Up to 90% of babies born to women who have rubella during

> pregnancy will die or be born with severe birth defects. Even

chickenpox

> killed more than 100 Americans every year before a vaccine became

available.

> Adults account for less than 5% of chickenpox cases, but more than

half of

> chickenpox deaths. Where do most adults get chickenpox? From

unimmunized

> children.

>

> Myth 3: " Vaccines are not safe and do not work. " Actually,

vaccines are one

> of the safest and most effective medical interventions we have.

They are

> generally between 90% and 99% effective, depending on the vaccine.

It's true

> that mild side effects such as localized soreness, low-grade fever

and

> irritability in infants do occur fairly frequently. But serious

side effects

> are extremely rare (one in thousands to one in millions).

>

> Myth 4: " Vaccines can cause long-term problems. " Multiple studies

have

> looked carefully for possible connections between vaccines and

many chronic

> diseases such as asthma, SIDS, diabetes, autism, multiple

sclerosis, etc.

> Autism in particular is an urgent health concern, and many

scientists are

> working very hard to determine what causes it. However, the

credible

> scientific evidence shows no link between vaccines and these

diseases.

>

> Myth 5: " Babies are too young to get shots, especially several at

once. " A

> baby's immune system begins working even before birth. A case of

strep

> throat, for example, requires the immune system to respond to 25

to 50

> different foreign particles ( " antigens " ), but most vaccines

contain only a

> few antigens. Immunologists estimate that the immune system of

even young

> infants can respond to as many as 100,000 antigens, so getting

several shots

> at once is perfectly fine. And babies are most at risk for many of

these

> diseases and their complications.

>

> Myth 6: " Your immune system can get 'dependent' on vaccines. "

Actually,

> vaccines strengthen your natural immune system. Imagine your

immune system

> as the security system of your body and diseases as intruders

trying to

> break in. In essence, a vaccine shows your immune system a picture

of these

> intruders, so it will recognize them immediately and take care of

them

> before they can cause harm. Thus, vaccines actually help prevent

the need

> for antibiotics and other medicines.

>

> Immunizations are one of the greatest medical achievements of the

20th

> century. According to a study in the Journal of the American

Medical

> Association, every 1% increase in unimmunized children in a

community causes

> more than a 10% increase in the risk of outbreaks. Unfortunately,

these

> outbreaks often wreak their greatest havoc on those who are most

vulnerable

> or those few who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons. And

because

> vaccines - while extremely effective - aren't 100% effective, these

> outbreaks put us all at risk.

>

> Please do your part to protect yourself, your family and our

community:

> Check to make sure all of your vaccines, and your family's

vaccines, are

> completely up to date. If you're not sure, please go to your

regular clinic

> or to your local public health department to get up to date, or

check out

> www.milwaukee.gov/health.

>

> Bevan K. Baker is commissioner of health for the City of

Milwaukee. Bevan K.

> Baker is commissioner of health for the City of Milwaukee.

>

[Guest guest]

Below is my email that I just sent to Commissioner Baker in response

to that article. I just sent it a few minutes ago. I encourage

others to email also.

Dear Commissioner Baker:

I am totally appalled by a recent article that was published and it

mentioned your name. My entire family of 4 are all vaccine injured.

As far as I know, the majority of chemicals that go into vaccines are

untested, therefore experimental. My own doctor couldn't tell me how

safe formaldehyde was. Yet, it is in half of the vaccines on the

market and we are told it is quite safe? Do you not recall the

formaldehyde in the toxic trailers issued by FEMA? The EPA is

considering it a possible CARCINOGEN!! That is just one of many

untested chemicals!! Live viruses also go into many vaccines. In

fact every SV virus out there originated in ANIMALS. Humans now have

them. Regardless of whether or not you choose to vaccinate your own

family, viruses such as the cancer causing SV40 virus will affect

your own future generations by genetics alone.

I would personally love to see every healthcare professional jailed

and/or heavily fined for not practicing informed consent. I was

simply told that my child may be a " little fussy " . So, when he

experienced convulsions, high-pitched, prolonged screaming and even

regression in milestones last year, it was quite upsetting. The

extent of any neurological damage may not be evident until the school

years (learning disabilities) I was not informed that I may suffer

from hearing loss (which I now suffer from thanks to the rubella

vaccine). How dare healthcare professionals not report reactions to

VAERS either! Again, they should face jail time or heavy fines for

this also.

Vaccines are not effective either. Just research the outbreaks

throughout history among the VACCINATED populations. Your state is

currently one. Didn't the outbreak start with a vaccinated child?

Now, people such as yourself are going to great lengths to cover it

up?

I urge you to attend the " Green our Vaccines " rally in Washington,

D.C. on 6/4/08. Thousands of families will be there with their own

nightmare of a story.

Though their mission is to green our vaccines, I no longer have faith

in doctors or nurses. I've been lied to and I no longer believe a

word people such as yourself have to say. Many people feel that way

now.

Dawn Crim

> >

> > I would say that this commissioner for health should have some

> serious

> > re-education! He's been listening to Dr Offit.

> >

> > http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=746510

> >

> > Vaccines: We're all in this together

> > By BEVAN K. BAKER

> >

> > Posted: May 3, 2008

> > In 2006, a mumps outbreak sickened more than 2,500 in 11

> Midwestern states,

> > with more than two dozen hospitalizations and at least 15 cases of

> > meningitis or encephalitis (serious brain inflammation), four of

> which

> > resulted in deafness. In 2004, a pertussis (whooping cough)

> epidemic

> > sickened more than 5,000 in Wisconsin and killed two, including

an

> infant.

> > The 1989-1990 measles outbreak in Wisconsin sickened more than

> 1,600 people,

> > caused more than 200 hospitalizations and killed six - including

> three

> > unimmunized young children in Milwaukee.

> >

> > The current outbreak of measles and rubella is another in a

series

> of

> > warnings to Wisconsinites. These outbreaks are preventable, and

> they are

> > indicators of what happens when children and adults in our

> community aren't

> > immunized.

> >

> > Nearly 95% of Wisconsin students meet the minimum legal

> requirements for

> > school immunizations. However, in Milwaukee, the situation is not

> nearly as

> > good, with just over 61% of Milwaukee Public Schools students

> fully up to

> > date on their minimum requirements.

> >

> > Why aren't 100% of Wisconsin school children immunized against

> > vaccine-preventable diseases? Access to medical care is sometimes

> difficult,

> > particularly in Milwaukee's inner city. Moreover, some people have

> > inaccurate perceptions or believe myths about vaccines. Here are

> some of

> > them:

> >

> > Myth 1: " These diseases aren't around anymore. " Measles is the

> single

> > biggest worldwide cause of vaccine-preventable death in children,

> with more

> > than 30 million cases and nearly 1 million deaths every year. An

> early 1990s

> > outbreak of diphtheria in Russia, caused in large part by low

> vaccination

> > rates, caused over 5,000 deaths. These and other vaccine-

> preventable

> > illnesses are just a plane ride away from Wisconsin every day of

> the year.

> >

> > Myth 2: " It's better to get the natural infection. " Wrong. About

> one in

> > eight people with measles requires hospitalization, and one or

two

> per 1,000

> > will die. Up to 90% of babies born to women who have rubella

during

> > pregnancy will die or be born with severe birth defects. Even

> chickenpox

> > killed more than 100 Americans every year before a vaccine became

> available.

> > Adults account for less than 5% of chickenpox cases, but more

than

> half of

> > chickenpox deaths. Where do most adults get chickenpox? From

> unimmunized

> > children.

> >

> > Myth 3: " Vaccines are not safe and do not work. " Actually,

> vaccines are one

> > of the safest and most effective medical interventions we have.

> They are

> > generally between 90% and 99% effective, depending on the

vaccine.

> It's true

> > that mild side effects such as localized soreness, low-grade

fever

> and

> > irritability in infants do occur fairly frequently. But serious

> side effects

> > are extremely rare (one in thousands to one in millions).

> >

> > Myth 4: " Vaccines can cause long-term problems. " Multiple studies

> have

> > looked carefully for possible connections between vaccines and

> many chronic

> > diseases such as asthma, SIDS, diabetes, autism, multiple

> sclerosis, etc.

> > Autism in particular is an urgent health concern, and many

> scientists are

> > working very hard to determine what causes it. However, the

> credible

> > scientific evidence shows no link between vaccines and these

> diseases.

> >

> > Myth 5: " Babies are too young to get shots, especially several at

> once. " A

> > baby's immune system begins working even before birth. A case of

> strep

> > throat, for example, requires the immune system to respond to 25

> to 50

> > different foreign particles ( " antigens " ), but most vaccines

> contain only a

> > few antigens. Immunologists estimate that the immune system of

> even young

> > infants can respond to as many as 100,000 antigens, so getting

> several shots

> > at once is perfectly fine. And babies are most at risk for many

of

> these

> > diseases and their complications.

> >

> > Myth 6: " Your immune system can get 'dependent' on vaccines. "

> Actually,

> > vaccines strengthen your natural immune system. Imagine your

> immune system

> > as the security system of your body and diseases as intruders

> trying to

> > break in. In essence, a vaccine shows your immune system a

picture

> of these

> > intruders, so it will recognize them immediately and take care of

> them

> > before they can cause harm. Thus, vaccines actually help prevent

> the need

> > for antibiotics and other medicines.

> >

> > Immunizations are one of the greatest medical achievements of the

> 20th

> > century. According to a study in the Journal of the American

> Medical

> > Association, every 1% increase in unimmunized children in a

> community causes

> > more than a 10% increase in the risk of outbreaks. Unfortunately,

> these

> > outbreaks often wreak their greatest havoc on those who are most

> vulnerable

> > or those few who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons. And

> because

> > vaccines - while extremely effective - aren't 100% effective,

these

> > outbreaks put us all at risk.

> >

> > Please do your part to protect yourself, your family and our

> community:

> > Check to make sure all of your vaccines, and your family's

> vaccines, are

> > completely up to date. If you're not sure, please go to your

> regular clinic

> > or to your local public health department to get up to date, or

> check out

> > www.milwaukee.gov/health.

> >

> > Bevan K. Baker is commissioner of health for the City of

> Milwaukee. Bevan K.

> > Baker is commissioner of health for the City of Milwaukee.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

" The 1989-1990 measles outbreak in Wisconsin sickened more than 1,600

people,caused more than 200 hospitalizations and killed six - including three

unimmunized young children in Milwaukee. "

Okay...this ENTIRE paragraph makes NO SENSE!

How about they get concerned that this measles outbreak in 1989-1990 killed

THREE people THAT WERE VACCINATED!!!!!!!! So..of those that DIED, 3 were vaxed

and 3 were NOT. Why the heck the emphasis on the ones that weren't!? I'm sorry

but if I'm injecting my kids full of CRAP (which I don't) to keep them from

getting other " VACCINE PREVENTABLE DISEASES " I would be PISSED if my kid got

something that they were vaccinated for.

OBVIOUSLY it didn't PREVENT these people from getting the measles even though

they were vaxed!

And then they write this:

> The current outbreak of measles and rubella is another in a

> series of

> warnings to Wisconsinites. These outbreaks are preventable, and

> they are

> indicators of what happens when children and adults in our

> community aren't

> immunized. "

I'm sorry but weren't THREE CHILDREN vaccinated (at least of those that

died)????? And the article itself stated that 95% of children in Wisconsin are

VACCINATED:

" Nearly 95% of Wisconsin students meet the minimum legal

> requirements for

> school immunizations. "

This is just ridiculous. Now that I have done more research, reading stuff

like this is just absurd. They are being hypocrites of their own article!!!! I

wonder where these " reserachers/journalists " went to school....because I know I

didn't go to Harvard or something, but I sure as hell can READ the article and

see that it makes no sense whatsoever.

" Make conscience choices based on what you believe and your life will be a

reflection of who you are. "

" Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change

the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. " - Margret Mead

" It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends

upon his not understanding it. " -Upton Sinclair

---------------------------------

Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

[Guest guest]

They say the same thing about cholesterol levels......that nearly

half of all heart attack patients have high cholesterol, so they

conclude that high cholesterol causes heart attacks.

However, from the same statement one can conclude that non high

cholesterol would cause heart attacks. Anyways.......whatever sells

the drugs and makes them money.

>

> " The 1989-1990 measles outbreak in Wisconsin sickened more than

1,600 people,caused more than 200 hospitalizations and killed six -

including three unimmunized young children in Milwaukee. "

>

> Okay...this ENTIRE paragraph makes NO SENSE!

>

> How about they get concerned that this measles outbreak in 1989-

1990 killed THREE people THAT WERE VACCINATED!!!!!!!! So..of those

that DIED, 3 were vaxed and 3 were NOT. Why the heck the emphasis on

the ones that weren't!? I'm sorry but if I'm injecting my kids full

of CRAP (which I don't) to keep them from getting other " VACCINE

PREVENTABLE DISEASES " I would be PISSED if my kid got something that

they were vaccinated for.

>

> OBVIOUSLY it didn't PREVENT these people from getting the measles

even though they were vaxed!

>

> And then they write this:

>

> > The current outbreak of measles and rubella is another in a

> > series of

> > warnings to Wisconsinites. These outbreaks are preventable, and

> > they are

> > indicators of what happens when children and adults in our

> > community aren't

> > immunized. "

>

> I'm sorry but weren't THREE CHILDREN vaccinated (at least of

those that died)????? And the article itself stated that 95% of

children in Wisconsin are VACCINATED:

>

> " Nearly 95% of Wisconsin students meet the minimum legal

> > requirements for

> > school immunizations. "

>

> This is just ridiculous. Now that I have done more research,

reading stuff like this is just absurd. They are being hypocrites of

their own article!!!! I wonder where these " reserachers/journalists "

went to school....because I know I didn't go to Harvard or something,

but I sure as hell can READ the article and see that it makes no

sense whatsoever.

>

>

> " Make conscience choices based on what you believe and your

life will be a reflection of who you are. "

>

>

> " Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens

can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. " -

Margret Mead

>

> " It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his

salary depends upon his not understanding it. " -Upton Sinclair

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

Try it now.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe they were trying to insinuate that the other three were unvaccinated

adults. Of course, the easier way to phrase that would be to say all were

unvaccinated. No, it's a sympathy ploy because they were children.

And it is sad, but not any more sad than vaccine-caused deaths.

Winnie

Re: VaCcines: We're all in this together

Vaccinations

> " The 1989-1990 measles outbreak in Wisconsin sickened more than

> 1,600 people,caused more than 200 hospitalizations and killed

> six - including three unimmunized young children in Milwaukee. "

>

> Okay...this ENTIRE paragraph makes NO SENSE!

>

> How about they get concerned that this measles outbreak in

> 1989-1990 killed THREE people THAT WERE VACCINATED!!!!!!!!

> So..of those that DIED, 3 were vaxed and 3 were NOT. Why the

> heck the emphasis on the ones that weren't!? I'm sorry but if

> I'm injecting my kids full of CRAP (which I don't) to keep them

> from getting other " VACCINE PREVENTABLE DISEASES " I would be

> PISSED if my kid got something that they were vaccinated for.

>

> OBVIOUSLY it didn't PREVENT these people from getting the

> measles even though they were vaxed!

>

> And then they write this:

>

> > The current outbreak of measles and rubella is another in a

> > series of

> > warnings to Wisconsinites. These outbreaks are preventable,

> and

> > they are

> > indicators of what happens when children and adults in our

> > community aren't

> > immunized. "

>

> I'm sorry but weren't THREE CHILDREN vaccinated (at least of

> those that died)????? And the article itself stated that 95% of

> children in Wisconsin are VACCINATED:

>

> " Nearly 95% of Wisconsin students meet the minimum legal

> > requirements for

> > school immunizations. "

>

> This is just ridiculous. Now that I have done more research,

> reading stuff like this is just absurd. They are being

> hypocrites of their own article!!!! I wonder where these

> " reserachers/journalists " went to school....because I know I

> didn't go to Harvard or something, but I sure as hell can READ

> the article and see that it makes no sense whatsoever.

>

>

> " Make conscience choices based on what you believe and your

> life will be a reflection of who you are. "

>

>

> " Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed

> citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that

> ever has. " - Margret Mead

>

> " It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his

> salary depends upon his not understanding it. " -Upton Sinclair

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

> Mobile. Try it now.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Myth #4 is sooooo obvious in our society.

Myth #5 contradicts itself.

Myth #6 assumes that nature didn't know what it has been doing for

thousands and thousands of years.

What does everyone else think?

Marieliz

>

> I would say that this commissioner for health should have some

serious

> re-education! He's been listening to Dr Offit.

>

> http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=746510

>

> Vaccines: We're all in this together

> By BEVAN K. BAKER

>

> Posted: May 3, 2008

> In 2006, a mumps outbreak sickened more than 2,500 in 11 Midwestern

states,

> with more than two dozen hospitalizations and at least 15 cases of

> meningitis or encephalitis (serious brain inflammation), four of

which

> resulted in deafness. In 2004, a pertussis (whooping cough) epidemic

> sickened more than 5,000 in Wisconsin and killed two, including an

infant.

> The 1989-1990 measles outbreak in Wisconsin sickened more than

1,600 people,

> caused more than 200 hospitalizations and killed six - including

three

> unimmunized young children in Milwaukee.

>

> The current outbreak of measles and rubella is another in a series

of

> warnings to Wisconsinites. These outbreaks are preventable, and

they are

> indicators of what happens when children and adults in our

community aren't

> immunized.

>

> Nearly 95% of Wisconsin students meet the minimum legal

requirements for

> school immunizations. However, in Milwaukee, the situation is not

nearly as

> good, with just over 61% of Milwaukee Public Schools students fully

up to

> date on their minimum requirements.

>

> Why aren't 100% of Wisconsin school children immunized against

> vaccine-preventable diseases? Access to medical care is sometimes

difficult,

> particularly in Milwaukee's inner city. Moreover, some people have

> inaccurate perceptions or believe myths about vaccines. Here are

some of

> them:

>

> Myth 1: " These diseases aren't around anymore. " Measles is the

single

> biggest worldwide cause of vaccine-preventable death in children,

with more

> than 30 million cases and nearly 1 million deaths every year. An

early 1990s

> outbreak of diphtheria in Russia, caused in large part by low

vaccination

> rates, caused over 5,000 deaths. These and other vaccine-preventable

> illnesses are just a plane ride away from Wisconsin every day of

the year.

>

> Myth 2: " It's better to get the natural infection. " Wrong. About

one in

> eight people with measles requires hospitalization, and one or two

per 1,000

> will die. Up to 90% of babies born to women who have rubella during

> pregnancy will die or be born with severe birth defects. Even

chickenpox

> killed more than 100 Americans every year before a vaccine became

available.

> Adults account for less than 5% of chickenpox cases, but more than

half of

> chickenpox deaths. Where do most adults get chickenpox? From

unimmunized

> children.

>

> Myth 3: " Vaccines are not safe and do not work. " Actually, vaccines

are one

> of the safest and most effective medical interventions we have.

They are

> generally between 90% and 99% effective, depending on the vaccine.

It's true

> that mild side effects such as localized soreness, low-grade fever

and

> irritability in infants do occur fairly frequently. But serious

side effects

> are extremely rare (one in thousands to one in millions).

>

> Myth 4: " Vaccines can cause long-term problems. " Multiple studies

have

> looked carefully for possible connections between vaccines and many

chronic

> diseases such as asthma, SIDS, diabetes, autism, multiple

sclerosis, etc.

> Autism in particular is an urgent health concern, and many

scientists are

> working very hard to determine what causes it. However, the credible

> scientific evidence shows no link between vaccines and these

diseases.

>

> Myth 5: " Babies are too young to get shots, especially several at

once. " A

> baby's immune system begins working even before birth. A case of

strep

> throat, for example, requires the immune system to respond to 25 to

50

> different foreign particles ( " antigens " ), but most vaccines contain

only a

> few antigens. Immunologists estimate that the immune system of even

young

> infants can respond to as many as 100,000 antigens, so getting

several shots

> at once is perfectly fine. And babies are most at risk for many of

these

> diseases and their complications.

>

> Myth 6: " Your immune system can get 'dependent' on vaccines. "

Actually,

> vaccines strengthen your natural immune system. Imagine your immune

system

> as the security system of your body and diseases as intruders

trying to

> break in. In essence, a vaccine shows your immune system a picture

of these

> intruders, so it will recognize them immediately and take care of

them

> before they can cause harm. Thus, vaccines actually help prevent

the need

> for antibiotics and other medicines.

>

> Immunizations are one of the greatest medical achievements of the

20th

> century. According to a study in the Journal of the American Medical

> Association, every 1% increase in unimmunized children in a

community causes

> more than a 10% increase in the risk of outbreaks. Unfortunately,

these

> outbreaks often wreak their greatest havoc on those who are most

vulnerable

> or those few who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons. And

because

> vaccines - while extremely effective - aren't 100% effective, these

> outbreaks put us all at risk.

>

> Please do your part to protect yourself, your family and our

community:

> Check to make sure all of your vaccines, and your family's

vaccines, are

> completely up to date. If you're not sure, please go to your

regular clinic

> or to your local public health department to get up to date, or

check out

> www.milwaukee.gov/health.

>

> Bevan K. Baker is commissioner of health for the City of Milwaukee.

Bevan K.

> Baker is commissioner of health for the City of Milwaukee.

>

[Guest guest]

And no doubt the children died from complications of measles which could

have been triggered by pre-existing conditions.....

Even if these statistics are correct, to just scare people with figures of

mortality like this is deplorable. As someone said, anything to sell drugs

and vaccines...

There is a campaign going on here to try and encourage parents to give the

flu VAX before the flu season hits, because *five kids died from flu last

year in Perth*. I was listening to the doctor talking last night while

cooking the dinner and I've never heard such a load of drivel as the *facts*

he was spouting!!

Sue x

-- Re: Re: VaCcines: We're all in this together

Maybe they were trying to insinuate that the other three were unvaccinated

adults. Of course, the easier way to phrase that would be to say all were

unvaccinated. No, it's a sympathy ploy because they were children.

And it is sad, but not any more sad than vaccine-caused deaths.

Winnie

[Guest guest]

I just heard a radio announcement last night claiming that " 36,000 will die each

year from the flu, get you flut shot. "

It's May, people. Flu season is over. Give it up!

Winnie

Re: Re: VaCcines: We're all in this

> together

>

> Maybe they were trying to insinuate that the other three were

> unvaccinatedadults. Of course, the easier way to phrase that

> would be to say all were

> unvaccinated. No, it's a sympathy ploy because they were

> children.

>

> And it is sad, but not any more sad than vaccine-caused deaths.

>

> Winnie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, our flu season is just starting...

Sue x

-- Re: Re: VaCcines: We're all in this together

I just heard a radio announcement last night claiming that " 36,000 will die

each year from the flu, get you flut shot. "

It's May, people. Flu season is over. Give it up!

Winnie

[Guest guest]

LOL!!!! I love your responses!!!!

Rina

-- In Vaccinations , wharrison@... wrote:

>

> I just heard a radio announcement last night claiming that " 36,000

will die each year from the flu, get you flut shot. "

>

> It's May, people. Flu season is over. Give it up!

>

> Winnie

>

> Re: Re: VaCcines: We're all in this

> > together

> >

> > Maybe they were trying to insinuate that the other three were

> > unvaccinatedadults. Of course, the easier way to phrase that

> > would be to say all were

> > unvaccinated. No, it's a sympathy ploy because they were

> > children.

> >

> > And it is sad, but not any more sad than vaccine-caused deaths.

> >

> > Winnie

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

New to this group but wanted to chime in with info about the flu shot. The CDC

(whom I

have little faith in but on this point agree) said that this year the flu shot

was ineffecitve.

Seems they guess what strains of flu will be transmitted from the predictions

based on the

previous years strains. Those predictions are what they use in a lab to create

the flu shot.

They were VERY off this year. Everyone I know (adults and babies) who got the

flu shot got

the flu. Myself, DH and DS (stopped vaxing at 6 months) did not get the flu.

Go figure!

Here's the article:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/conditions/04/17/flu.season.ap/

Dina

> >

> > I just heard a radio announcement last night claiming that " 36,000

> will die each year from the flu, get you flut shot. "

> >

> > It's May, people. Flu season is over. Give it up!

> >

> > Winnie

> >

> > Re: Re: VaCcines: We're all in this

> > > together

> > >

> > > Maybe they were trying to insinuate that the other three were

> > > unvaccinatedadults. Of course, the easier way to phrase that

> > > would be to say all were

> > > unvaccinated. No, it's a sympathy ploy because they were

> > > children.

> > >

> > > And it is sad, but not any more sad than vaccine-caused deaths.

> > >

> > > Winnie

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >