Hello again, some questions

May 7, 2008

Hello everyone,

I made my introduction a few months ago and unfortunately due to some

family circumstances had to go to " no mail " for a while. Fortunately

I am finally able to get back into the swing of things and have a few

questions for the group members here.

I am 20 weeks pregnant with my first, a little girl. I decided long

before I ever conceived that vaccines were out of the question for

any child of mine. My sister is expecting her third child at the end

of May, and despite the many warnings and informative literature that

I've passed on to her, will probably still vaccinate my new little

niece. We live 500 miles away from one another, but she mentioned

the other day that she would like to bring Riley (her new daughter)

and come down to visit when my baby is born. Riley will be about 5

months old at that time, and right in the middle of the typical

vaccine series that my sister's pediatrician recommends. My first

reaction is that Riley will be shedding virus from these vaccines and

therefore cannot be around my baby during that time. For what period

of time would you expect a child to continue shedding vaccine? I am

just wondering if I am looking at a period of months for keeping them

separated, or longer. I am looking for any and all inforamtion on

building natural immunity that I can find. I know that for the most

part this involves protecting the immature immune system, while also

boosting it through proper nutrition. I do plan to breastfeed and

have plans to make my own baby food when the time comes. (Also

wondering if anyone knows of any good books on making your own baby

food) I am very thankful to have this list and look forward to the

responses from the group.

Thanks so much,

le in MS

May 7, 2008

Hi and congratulations! I think if vaccines do shed, it is the live

ones only and that would be the flu vax, which she probably won't

have by 5 months and the MMR and chicken pox, which doesn't come in

until 12 months. I think that is it, but someone else will be able

to answer better.

Breastfeeding will give the best immunity to your little one at

first, and then yes, good nutrition, including good saturated fats,

fruits and veggies, and good protein sources like raw milk, cheese,

egg yolks, chicken liver, cod liver oil, vitamin C, and a probiotic

will continue helping the healthy immune system. Also, exercise,

sunshine, and a happy environment are important.

In case you cannot breastfeed (I had problems, I know it is rare

though,) or need to supplement, there is a raw milk formula you can

easily put together rather than going with the synthetic powdered

stuff. Here is a link to a nice web site for children's food ideas:

http://westonaprice.org/children/nourish-baby.html

Also, for further ideas or questions, check out this group:

newwaphb/

>

> Hello everyone,

> I made my introduction a few months ago and unfortunately due to

some

> family circumstances had to go to " no mail " for a while.

Fortunately

> I am finally able to get back into the swing of things and have a

few

> questions for the group members here.

>

> I am 20 weeks pregnant with my first, a little girl. I decided

long

> before I ever conceived that vaccines were out of the question for

> any child of mine. My sister is expecting her third child at the

end

> of May, and despite the many warnings and informative literature

that

> I've passed on to her, will probably still vaccinate my new little

> niece. We live 500 miles away from one another, but she mentioned

> the other day that she would like to bring Riley (her new daughter)

> and come down to visit when my baby is born. Riley will be about 5

> months old at that time, and right in the middle of the typical

> vaccine series that my sister's pediatrician recommends. My first

> reaction is that Riley will be shedding virus from these vaccines

and

> therefore cannot be around my baby during that time. For what

period

> of time would you expect a child to continue shedding vaccine? I

am

> just wondering if I am looking at a period of months for keeping

them

> separated, or longer. I am looking for any and all inforamtion on

> building natural immunity that I can find. I know that for the

most

> part this involves protecting the immature immune system, while

also

> boosting it through proper nutrition. I do plan to breastfeed and

> have plans to make my own baby food when the time comes. (Also

> wondering if anyone knows of any good books on making your own baby

> food) I am very thankful to have this list and look forward to

the

> responses from the group.

> Thanks so much,

> le in MS

>

May 7, 2008

Hi le!

Most live-virus vaccines state 4-6 weeks that the vaccinee is

contagious. Here's the link for you to investigate all the

vaccines...

http://vaers.hhs.gov/pdf/PackageInserts.pdf (to view all vaccines)

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/v/varivax/varivax_pi.pdf

(page 7 for an example of where to find the info on the package

inserts)

>

> Hello everyone,

> I made my introduction a few months ago and unfortunately due to

some

> family circumstances had to go to " no mail " for a while.

Fortunately

> I am finally able to get back into the swing of things and have a

few

> questions for the group members here.

>

> I am 20 weeks pregnant with my first, a little girl. I decided

long

> before I ever conceived that vaccines were out of the question for

> any child of mine. My sister is expecting her third child at the

end

> of May, and despite the many warnings and informative literature

that

> I've passed on to her, will probably still vaccinate my new little

> niece. We live 500 miles away from one another, but she mentioned

> the other day that she would like to bring Riley (her new daughter)

> and come down to visit when my baby is born. Riley will be about 5

> months old at that time, and right in the middle of the typical

> vaccine series that my sister's pediatrician recommends. My first

> reaction is that Riley will be shedding virus from these vaccines

and

> therefore cannot be around my baby during that time. For what

period

> of time would you expect a child to continue shedding vaccine? I

am

> just wondering if I am looking at a period of months for keeping

them

> separated, or longer. I am looking for any and all inforamtion on

> building natural immunity that I can find. I know that for the

most

> part this involves protecting the immature immune system, while

also

> boosting it through proper nutrition. I do plan to breastfeed and

> have plans to make my own baby food when the time comes. (Also

> wondering if anyone knows of any good books on making your own baby

> food) I am very thankful to have this list and look forward to

the

> responses from the group.

> Thanks so much,

> le in MS

>

May 7, 2008

Hi le --

BFing is the best thing you can do to build your DD's immune system. Just

make sure you eat well, lots of fresh fruits and veggies, good protein and

avoid the junk. Lots of good studies on fish/omega 3's for baby's brain

development too.

As for a good baby recipe book. I had a terrific one but I must have passed

it along. I can't remember the title and I can't find it on the web,

sorry.

I can share some advice though. I made all my kids food and the book was

good as a basic outline - food to liquid content, and it explained how to

cook, puree and freeze everything. I believe fresh food eaten immediately

is best, but I froze small portions of lots of things in ice cube trays and

then transferred them to ziplock bags labeled with date and food item. It

made my life easier rather than trying to make fresh every day, and the book

explained how to do this safely.

When my kids were just introduced to food, the rice and such I mixed with my

breast milk, but once they started on fruit and stuff, I took fresh (organic

when possible) fruits and veggies, cooked them just slightly, so that I

could run them through my blender -- I killed two of those workhorses (LOL)

- and I added natural juices from the fruits or the steam water from the

veggies to make it the right consistency -- this is where the book was

helpful. As they got older I introduced what was next, egg, chicken,

etc. and made their food till they were eating finger foods.

Making their food is so worth it -- it tastes so much better and has so much

more nutrition.

All the best.

Health & blessings,

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On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:26 AM, sphynxlover2 <AST42701@...> wrote:

> Hello everyone,

> I made my introduction a few months ago and unfortunately due to some

> family circumstances had to go to " no mail " for a while. Fortunately

> I am finally able to get back into the swing of things and have a few

> questions for the group members here.

>

> I am 20 weeks pregnant with my first, a little girl. I decided long

> before I ever conceived that vaccines were out of the question for

> any child of mine. My sister is expecting her third child at the end

> of May, and despite the many warnings and informative literature that

> I've passed on to her, will probably still vaccinate my new little

> niece. We live 500 miles away from one another, but she mentioned

> the other day that she would like to bring Riley (her new daughter)

> and come down to visit when my baby is born. Riley will be about 5

> months old at that time, and right in the middle of the typical

> vaccine series that my sister's pediatrician recommends. My first

> reaction is that Riley will be shedding virus from these vaccines and

> therefore cannot be around my baby during that time. For what period

> of time would you expect a child to continue shedding vaccine? I am

> just wondering if I am looking at a period of months for keeping them

> separated, or longer. I am looking for any and all inforamtion on

> building natural immunity that I can find. I know that for the most

> part this involves protecting the immature immune system, while also

> boosting it through proper nutrition. I do plan to breastfeed and

> have plans to make my own baby food when the time comes. (Also

> wondering if anyone knows of any good books on making your own baby

> food) I am very thankful to have this list and look forward to the

> responses from the group.

> Thanks so much,

> le in MS

>

May 7, 2008

Is the book you are referring to for GREAT baby recipes called Super

Baby Food by Ruth Yaron? Even still, this is a great and simple book

to help along with making food babies and toddlers. Healthy stuff

too! Personally, I try to buy organic as much as possible but it

does add up.....not everything in my house is organic though

whatever is not, I just make sure that is not processed crap. I have

my baby girl eating healthier than my husband and I but I really

want to get back on that path. Good luck!

Rina

>

> > Hello everyone,

> > I made my introduction a few months ago and unfortunately due to

some

> > family circumstances had to go to " no mail " for a while.

Fortunately

> > I am finally able to get back into the swing of things and have

a few

> > questions for the group members here.

> >

> > I am 20 weeks pregnant with my first, a little girl. I decided

long

> > before I ever conceived that vaccines were out of the question

for

> > any child of mine. My sister is expecting her third child at

the end

> > of May, and despite the many warnings and informative literature

that

> > I've passed on to her, will probably still vaccinate my new

little

> > niece. We live 500 miles away from one another, but she

mentioned

> > the other day that she would like to bring Riley (her new

daughter)

> > and come down to visit when my baby is born. Riley will be

about 5

> > months old at that time, and right in the middle of the typical

> > vaccine series that my sister's pediatrician recommends. My

first

> > reaction is that Riley will be shedding virus from these

vaccines and

> > therefore cannot be around my baby during that time. For what

period

> > of time would you expect a child to continue shedding vaccine?

I am

> > just wondering if I am looking at a period of months for keeping

them

> > separated, or longer. I am looking for any and all inforamtion

on

> > building natural immunity that I can find. I know that for the

most

> > part this involves protecting the immature immune system, while

also

> > boosting it through proper nutrition. I do plan to breastfeed

and

> > have plans to make my own baby food when the time comes. (Also

> > wondering if anyone knows of any good books on making your own

baby

> > food) I am very thankful to have this list and look forward to

the

> > responses from the group.

> > Thanks so much,

> > le in MS

> >

>

May 8, 2008

Welcome and welcome back, le!

My SIL had a baby three months after I had my first, and she vaxes,

too. I decided not to worry about shedding, since DS is

breastfeeding, and I know that his system is stronger than a

vaccinated child's, so he can fend off or fight any disease much

easier. My son hasn't contracted anything from being exposed to vax'd

kids, and he's around them constantly, at Gymboree, playdates, the

neighbor kids and his cousins. He's 28 months old now.

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:26 AM, sphynxlover2 <AST42701@...> wrote:

>

> Hello everyone,

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