Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 This was posted by McCarthy's pediatrician on the " Green our Vaccine " Rally message board. I thought it was worth forwarding here. It is an invitation to make our voices heard... Daphna doodledaph@... From Jay Gordon, MD, FAAP ( and Evan's Doc) Off Topic Posted by: " Jay Gordon " jay@... jngmd Fri May 30, 2008 11:04 pm (PDT) Hello-- I will be speaking at the rally. Some of you may know me from ³Larry King² or the Fox News piece or the PBS vaccine story last week. I am a pediatrician in private practice and I do not have a DAN or other type of autism specialist pediatric practice. I care for many children on the spectrum and have had an intense interest in vaccines for a long time. I will be up there representing you and I¹d like your opinions about what you¹d like the media to hear. Because the list can be clogged by ³off topic² posts right now, please email me privately at: jaydrjaygordon (DOT) com Below is a post I just sent to a heavily-used moms¹ web board. I though you might be interested. I truly look forward to seeing you all next week and meeting as many of you as possible. All My Best, Jay (THIS WAS POSTED THIS EVENING TO A LOS ANGELES MOMS¹ BOARD IN RESPONSE TO A POST FROM AN INFECTIOUS DISEASE DOC/MOTHER) I feel I must respond to this post. Caitlin contributes excellent information to [this group] but I respectfully disagree with what she¹s written below. Yes, the number of ³antigens² might be less, but the cumulative amount of aluminum in vaccines is vastly higher than it¹s ever been before. Aluminum damages human brain cells and is used as an ³adjuvant² or irritant to allow the manufacturer to use less of the antigen itself. That is, a pertussis vaccine might have less ³pertussis² protein than before but it has a more irritant and there are quite a few more vaccines than in past years with more added every couple years. Children in the 1960s received dozens fewer vaccines than children in 2008. The infant immune system is immature and every doctor knows that we treat sick babies completely differently than we treat sick toddlers partly because they just can¹t respond as well to infection and CAN truly be overwhelmed by an infection which might not have caused big trouble in a three-year-old or in an adult. The immune system confronts many organisms, as Caitlin correctly points out, but it responds to them with antibodies and ³inactivating² defenses in the mouth, the nose, the throat, the bronchi. Vaccines are injected directly into muscle or under the skin with the intent of getting the viral or bacterial response directly in the blood stream. We completely bypass the body¹s first lines of defense. Vaccines can overwhelm the immune system¹s ability to respond safely. This amazing unscientific approach has never been well enough evaluated in the decades-long history of vaccination. ³Science-based² is a catch phrase which loses a lot of it¹s meaning when you realize that the scientists ( Infectious Diseases Society of America) to whom Caitlin refer are sponsored by the manufacturers of vaccines. Their conferences, lunches, speakers¹ fees, airline tickets and much more are funded by the pharmaceutical industry. Have a look at their home page, their ³Career Development and Funding Opportunities² page, their ³Research Awards² page, or the countless pages of advertisements for vaccines in the journals. Science? Maybe. Unbiased science? Not even close. Dr. Bernadine Healy, the former head of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) has broken ranks with the her fellow scientists in the discussion about vaccines causing or increasing the incidence of autism: Dr. Bernadine Healy is the former head of the National Institutes of Health, and the most well-known medical voice yet to break with her colleagues on the vaccine-autism question. In an exclusive interview with CBS News, Healy said the question is still open. " I think that the public health officials have been too quick to dismiss the hypothesis as irrational, " Healy said. " But public health officials have been saying they know, they've been implying to the public there's enough evidence and they know it's not causal, " Attkisson said. " I think you can't say that, " Healy said. " You can't say that. " http://www.cbsnews. com/stories/ 2008/05/12/ cbsnews_investig ates/main4086809 .s html?source= mostpop_story Here¹s what I¹ve got, Caitlin, nearly 30 years of watching tens of thousands of children receive hundreds of thousands of vaccines. Countless emails, second opinion consultations and phone calls about children who appear to have been damaged by vaccines. Dozens of other doctors calling or emailing me because they know I¹ll listen to their stories about strange and tragic vaccine reactions and no one else will. Yes, children still get illnesses which vaccines could have prevented but I track these for hours every day and the number of illnesses pales in comparison to the number of children damaged by the current vaccine schedule. We can do much better but it will cost time and pharmaceutical manufacturers¹ time and money. Right now, they have little or no respect for parents and children. This is the only area of medicine where we deny side effects. Amoxicillin for a UTI? I apologize for the possible rash, diarrhea, cramps and the often inevitable yeast infection. Six vaccines given to a ten pound baby girl? Doctors tell you before the shots that their are no side effects and that the seizures, deaths and autism are not proven and are undoubtedly coincidental. This is the only area of medicine where your six-week-old baby and I, a 180 pound man, get the same dose of a medication. For instance, the polio vaccine. This is absurd medicine and might be dangerous. My exposure to aluminum‹or to a full ³old time² dose of 25 micrograms of mercury from the flu shot or the tetanus shot‹is bad enough, but giving a seven year old child whose weight is less than one-third my own is dangerous. Most web sites which discuss the negative aspects of vaccines are just as biased as the sites sponsored by the industry. This one has a lot of good information‹certainl y from the ³vaccines aren¹t safe enough² point of view‹ and it is far less biased. Before those six vaccines at each of the first few visits, ask yourself, ³does this feel like the right thing to do to my baby?² Your answer to yourself is more valuable than your doctor¹s opinion about your one supremely important child. Consider both, but value your instincts above all else. Best, Jay Re: autism and vaccinations Posted by: " yankeedoc03 " caitlin_reed@ post.harvard. edu yankeedoc03 Fri May 30, 2008 4:26 pm (PDT) I'd like to respond to the idea that there are 'too many' vaccines in the current schedule. It is not well known that although the actual number of recommended immunizations in the standard schedule has increased over time, there are now markedly fewer vaccine antigens (the actual fragments of the bacterial or viral proteins used in vaccines to induce immunity) given in immunizations today than in the past. Children in the 1960s received immunizations containing upwards of 3000 antigens, while the total number of antigens in current vaccines is less than ~150. This reduction in antigens has occurred because of improvements in vaccine design, principally of the pertussis vaccine, and because of the elimination of antigen rich smallpox vaccine from the schedule after the eradication of smallpox in 1977. I am also puzzled by the popular idea that infant immune systems are fragile and easily overwhelmed by the handful of antigens in vaccines. In fact, newborns' immune systems are remarkably robust, and confront thousands of bacterial and viral antigens on a daily basis from the very moment of birth. For more science-based information about vaccines, I recommend perusing www.immunizationinf o.org. This is a reliable website co-sponsored by my professional society, the Infectious Diseases Society of America. Infectiously and immunologically yours, Caitlin -- Signature Links Jay N. Gordon, MD, FAAP, IBCLC (Emeritus) Assistant Professor of Pediatrics, UCLA Medical School Former Senior Fellow in Pediatric Nutrition, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Institute http://www.drjaygor don.com A nice place to visit, and you could live there‹best link library around, I think) http://www.childcar emedia.com Some great producers created a DVD of my 2006 vaccine seminar at the Skirball Center http://www.huffingt onpost.com/ jay-gordon/ i-also-was- a-medical- whor_b_97364. h tml My most recent contribution to my favorite website http://tinyurl. com/6h9kyj Fox News (8600 email questions during a one hour live webcast following the taped show) http://www.webmd. com/cold- and-flu/news/ 20071204/ sinus-infection- antibiotics- no-help http://www.mcw. edu/display/ router.asp? docid=12967 (An vaccination article in my medical school ³Alumni News²--November, 2005) http://www.kcrw. com/news/ programs/ tp/tp050415scien ce_politics_ and (This is a radio show about vaccines which aired 4/15/05. I was on with two academic vaccine experts and the author of a new book about childhood immunizations. )) http://www.drjaygor don.com/news/ latimes.htm (Some recent notes on vaccines) http://www.medicaln ewstoday. com/medicalnews. php?newsid= 55507 (The flu shot does not work) http://query. nytimes.com/ gst/fullpage. html?sec= health & res= 9501E7DB1F30F931 A1 5752C0A9619C8B63 (The whooping outbreak that wasn¹t) http://www.huffingt onpost.com/ jay-gordon/ medicine- and-politics_ b_9539.html (Tamiflu!) http://www.huffingt onpost.com/ theblog/ (I am the medical blogger . . . ) http://www.cbsnews. com/stories/ 2002/10/04/ earlyshow/ living/parenting /main524 452.shtml (Click video) http://www.nvic. org/state- site/California. htm THIS IS A EXCERPT OF THE STATUTE http://www.dhs. ca.gov/ps/ dcdc/izgroup/ pdf/IMM-365D. pdf THIS, HOWEVER, IS THE COMPLETE CALIFORNIA LAW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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