Re: MY ROCKS NOW FEEL LIKE PEPPLES

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BJ,

The hardness is due to capsular contracture, the scar tissue that has

built up around the implant. The gel itself does not get hard so of

course they could be leaking even though they are hard. I would

venture to say that it would be more surprising if they were not

leaking just because they have been in for soooo long...do they feel

smaller??? My salines were leaking and I just " knew. " I could feel

some sloshing and some rippling at the end and I was itching and

finally developed a rash. Silicone especially can leak very very

slowly.

Ann

> Just a quick question................for the longest time my

silicone

> implants felt like hard rocks, and still do although they now feel

like small hard

> pepples.....is it possible that being hard they still leak and if

so what are

> they leaking if it has turned hard like that....sorry i feel so

stupid asking

> this but i am just not sure and its only lately that i noticed this

and these

> have been in me more than 20 years??????thanks love BJ

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In a message dated 4/26/2004 11:24:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, nantynannie@... writes:

BJ,The hardness is due to capsular contracture, the scar tissue that has built up around the implant. The gel itself does not get hard so of course they could be leaking even though they are hard. I would venture to say that it would be more surprising if they were not leaking just because they have been in for soooo long...do they feel smaller??? My salines were leaking and I just "knew." I could feel some sloshing and some rippling at the end and I was itching and finally developed a rash. Silicone especially can leak very very slowly. Ann

They are alot smaller, but i have gained weight so my breast are bigger, but in the years the hard rock was huge and now its just recently getting smaller and its funny you say itching......i kept waking up all night and my whole body was itching it was so weird...and i have notice more and more is going wrong with me like now for instance i have hyperglycemic borderline diabetes and no one in my family has that.....now Ann where did you get the rash?????just thinking about all this is making me stress and really feel sick, are yours out Ann????how did you make out with it and how long did you have them?????i am just so scared to do this step, i know i have to but i just can't do it yet, emotionally and mentally and even physically i am not ready.....but thanks for your input and let me know about and i never thought i would ever be saying this lol lol let me know about your breast.........lol thanks love BJ

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In a message dated 4/27/2004 12:40:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, saxony01@... writes:

Right now, some of things you can do to help yourselfis to drink at least 1/2 ounce of unchlorinated waterfor every pound of body weight daily. . . Do a liverdetox program on a regular basis. . . Take Epsom Saltbaths several times a week . . . Get on a diet(Maker's Diet) that will provide your body withoptimal nutrition and organic foods. . . Take ananti-fungal medication like Diflucan or Nystatin thenGarden on Life's Fungal Defense for two weeks,followed by Garden of Life's Primal Defense (8 tablesdaily) for three months. I very much doubt that youcould handle a detox program involving sweating orexercise right now . . . but start small and graduallywork up to it.The idea is that you want to flush as much siliconefrom your body as quickly as possible. And you want toget rid of the bad organisms (yeast/Candida/fungus)that take hold when ones immune system is suppressedwhile replacing the beneficial organisms that havebeen eliminated. Our bodies have incredible recuperative powers! But wehave to give it what it needs to rebuild! It takestime and a lot of discipline . . . and, when you feelso bad, it feel overwhelming. BUT, the payoff istremendous! You can get yourself back! And you canenjoy life and your family again!Hugs and prayers,Rogene

Rogene, thank you so much..........i had to laugh when you said drink 1/2 ounce for every pound of body weight and i was like geez i will be drinking a river.....well at least i have my sense of humor still but after reading this i know its reality but boy its so overwhelming....just the thought of this is like wow...........now Rogene did you have silicone too????Doctors get it they just don't care, they don't want to pick up pieces left from another doctor its like they would be betraying each other if they did....right now i am experiencing a very weird feeling on my face the left side and i refuse to go to the doctors because i don't want to see that look like here she is again......my face feels almost like the feeling when pins and needles disappear, a weird funny feeling don't know what it is but it sure feels funny..........well let me know about you as well and hopfully you can help me threw this horrible nightmare......love to ya BJ

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In a message dated 4/27/2004 1:10:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, faussettdp@... writes:

BJ,It sounds to me like it could be calcifications... orperhaps more scar tissue that has surrounded leakingsilicone. It would not be unheard of for there to bemore than one capsule inside of you, because littleglobs of silicone that leak could also be "walled off"individually. Make sure you try to somehow get thischecked out to rule out other things, but with themhaving been inside of you more than 20 years, you'vegot a good chance of ruptured and leaking implants andloose silicone.Patty

Patty,

Lets say they are leaking, where is this stuff going????does it calcify on my organs??does it just go threw the blood stream???this is just to much for me to comprehend.....how would i go about getting it checked out and what am i asking them to check?????how would they check them, i know recently i had an echocardiogram done and the guy said he saw my implants and i saw it too but its a big blur to me and to him and he said he couldn't tell if they were leaking or anything...so what next....love ya BJ

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In a message dated 4/27/2004 12:16:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, faussettdp@... writes:

PS You know the facial numbness could possibly have> to do with an > injury to your spine and I know you had back> surgery. I have a bad > disk and bone spur at C6-C7, but they keep telling> me that the face > numbess is more a brain/cranial nerve thing. Also,> my pupils are two > different sizes sometimes due to inflammation of the> eyeball nerve. > Just some ideas for you.> Ann

Ann yes i did have back surgery l3 l4 l5 s1 where they inplanted stephi plates and screws and also i did have cervical (neck) surgery as well i actually had two on back and two on neck...they put stephi plates and screws in neck as well and the funny thing with me is i two have two different size pupils too....hmmmm thanks BJ

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BJ,

I am sorry that you are so scared and that you are not ready yet, but

you have to ask yourself what are they doing for you? Nothing I am

sure. They are just making you sick, especially if they are

leaking. You should be more scared of leaving them in than taking

them out. Have you figured out a way to pay for the surgery? I

know you were trying to see if Medicare or SS would pay. I borrowed

the money from my IRA. I can tell you that I had very little pain

with the removal. Nothing like the implant surgery and the recovery

was very easy.

Anyway, mine are out one month and I am so happy that they are gone.

I still itch a bit sometimes, but I can control it with benadryl.

the rash came up about 2 months prior to explant and even the

dermatologist agreed it was from the implants because they were

leaking. It feels great not to have heavy hard breasts. I got a

lift with my explant and I am very happy about that because it is

like having new boobs! No sagging or anything (for now until I get a

little older I'm sure they will go south)which really helped with the

transition. I have not regretted my decision for even one single

second.

Please understand that I do not feel better physically as none of my

symptoms are gone, but I do feel much better with those bags gone

without the heavyness and hardness and knowing they were leaking was

making me CRAZY!!!!

They were saline textured and I had them for 7 years. I got sick in

2001. They are calling undifferentiated connective tissue disease,

but my doc thinks it is developing into lupus and vasculitis. I also

had a TERRIBLE bout with hypoglycemia in 1999, but I went to a

nutritionist (after the docs wrote me off to getting diabetes) and

cut out much of the suger and simple carbs I was eating and I feel

much better in that area.

Please answer, why aren't you ready? What are you afraid of? Thanks.

I wish you well BJ,

Ann

> In a message dated 4/26/2004 11:24:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> nantynannie@y... writes:

> BJ,

>

> The hardness is due to capsular contracture, the scar tissue that

has

> built up around the implant. The gel itself does not get hard so

of

> course they could be leaking even though they are hard. I would

> venture to say that it would be more surprising if they were not

> leaking just because they have been in for soooo long...do they

feel

> smaller??? My salines were leaking and I just " knew. " I could

feel

> some sloshing and some rippling at the end and I was itching and

> finally developed a rash. Silicone especially can leak very very

> slowly.

>

> Ann

> They are alot smaller, but i have gained weight so my breast are

bigger, but

> in the years the hard rock was huge and now its just recently

getting smaller

> and its funny you say itching......i kept waking up all night and

my whole

> body was itching it was so weird...and i have notice more and more

is going wrong

> with me like now for instance i have hyperglycemic borderline

diabetes and no

> one in my family has that.....now Ann where did you get the

rash?????just

> thinking about all this is making me stress and really feel sick,

are yours out

> Ann????how did you make out with it and how long did you have

them?????i am

> just so scared to do this step, i know i have to but i just can't

do it yet,

> emotionally and mentally and even physically i am not ready.....but

thanks for

> your input and let me know about and i never thought i would ever

be saying this

> lol lol let me know about your breast.........lol thanks love BJ

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BJ,

Just to let you know, I also get this numbness pins and needles

feeling everywhere and on my face and lips and nose. Have you found

a good Lupus doc? Having that verified condition you should not have

to put up with them treating you poorly. A good rheumy would

understand and sympathize with your symptoms. Maybe someone here can

recommend one in your area. Please don't get me wrong, many of us

are treated like crap by these docs, but if you have a verified

diagnosis, you should be treated better than that. Good luck,

PS You know the facial numbness could possibly have to do with an

injury to your spine and I know you had back surgery. I have a bad

disk and bone spur at C6-C7, but they keep telling me that the face

numbess is more a brain/cranial nerve thing. Also, my pupils are two

different sizes sometimes due to inflammation of the eyeball nerve.

Just some ideas for you.

Ann

> In a message dated 4/27/2004 12:40:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> saxony01@y... writes:

> Right now, some of things you can do to help yourself

> is to drink at least 1/2 ounce of unchlorinated water

> for every pound of body weight daily. . . Do a liver

> detox program on a regular basis. . . Take Epsom Salt

> baths several times a week . . . Get on a diet

> (Maker's Diet) that will provide your body with

> optimal nutrition and organic foods. . . Take an

> anti-fungal medication like Diflucan or Nystatin then

> Garden on Life's Fungal Defense for two weeks,

> followed by Garden of Life's Primal Defense (8 tables

> daily) for three months. I very much doubt that you

> could handle a detox program involving sweating or

> exercise right now . . . but start small and gradually

> work up to it.

>

> The idea is that you want to flush as much silicone

> from your body as quickly as possible. And you want to

> get rid of the bad organisms (yeast/Candida/fungus)

> that take hold when ones immune system is suppressed

> while replacing the beneficial organisms that have

> been eliminated.

>

> Our bodies have incredible recuperative powers! But we

> have to give it what it needs to rebuild! It takes

> time and a lot of discipline . . . and, when you feel

> so bad, it feel overwhelming. BUT, the payoff is

> tremendous! You can get yourself back! And you can

> enjoy life and your family again!

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

> Rogene, thank you so much..........i had to laugh when you said

drink 1/2

> ounce for every pound of body weight and i was like geez i will be

drinking a

> river.....well at least i have my sense of humor still but after

reading this i

> know its reality but boy its so overwhelming....just the thought of

this is

> like wow...........now Rogene did you have silicone too????Doctors

get it they

> just don't care, they don't want to pick up pieces left from

another doctor its

> like they would be betraying each other if they did....right now i

am

> experiencing a very weird feeling on my face the left side and i

refuse to go to the

> doctors because i don't want to see that look like here she is

again......my

> face feels almost like the feeling when pins and needles disappear,

a weird

> funny feeling don't know what it is but it sure feels

funny..........well let me

> know about you as well and hopfully you can help me threw this

horrible

> nightmare......love to ya BJ

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In a message dated 4/27/2004 3:36:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, faussettdp@... writes:

but BJ, inyour case, I can only wonder if the implants had justbeen removed in the first place when you got sick, ifyou would have even gone through all this otherstuff???? I really feel doubtful about that! Silicone

Ya know Patty it is more than frustrating especially since the beginning i specifically ask the doctor are these things safe.....and he said yes most definitely.....i never new it was the implants that i was getting sick from isn't that a kick in the head....if i had known it was the slightest bit dangerous i never would of done this....believe it or not i should of know from day one when the right one got infected...and right after surgery back then i had to go home with a special tight bra on, it was so tight i felt like it was cutting off my circulation but that is basically how it was done to most back then.... i found out that my implant shells is made by Bristol and the silicone is made by Dow......they said i settled with Bristol for something like 5,000.00 and the lawyer got a third...which left me with what lol lol lol lol now i believe i am part of dow....i honestly believe it is the silicone that is making me sick....or should i say the lack of silicone in my breasts.....i hate going threw all this and eventually i will have something done about it....its just so much has been going on....first the really bad flood....that took us quite some time to recover from a lot of damage and loss.....then my daughter who was only 18 at the time got pregnant but she is married now and has another then 9/11 which my sister in law died in...May God rest her soul, we never recovered her body..she was in the world trade center first building 92 ND floor, the bills have been mounting up...so in due time i think things should be squared away and i can do something only thing is i have to find a good doctor, one that believes these are connected, and hopfully one of you will live close enough by where i go for counceling lol lol and i will be all set.....i think...thanks for the help i really appreciate everything...love ya all BJ