Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 In a message dated 8/28/2008 7:23:47 AM US Mountain Standard Time, gettin.happy@... writes: > Well...it gets worse. Theresa came over this morning for coffee. Apparently > her husband did not agree with her decision not to vaccinate. He was not > comfortable with the winter coming upon us and told his mom that if they bring > up shots to get them. More reason to not jump headfirst into a lawsuit. Becca ************** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Well...it gets worse. Theresa came over this morning for coffee. Apparently her husband did not agree with her decision not to vaccinate. He was not comfortable with the winter coming upon us and told his mom that if they bring up shots to get them. She went on to say that he was afraid of whooping cough because his boss told him some story about his niece dying from whooping cough 5 years ago. She was 11 months. She said she thought they were on the same page but he obviously felt compelled with all the scare tactics and measles going around. She just left 15 minutes ago and her poor daughter spiked a fever in the night and from what she says is more or less " wired " ./ She said she did not stay asleep at all last night. She was up in her crib playing at 2 in the a.m. Don't know what to make of that. She is very angry with her husnband and we were suppose to have them over for a bbq today but I think I will leave them alone. They obviously have communication issues. I just feel sooooooo bad for her. She just kept saying that she feels she " ruined " her daughter. This was the same mom who was convinced that her 3 yr old's speech issues and development delays along with possible ADHD issues were probably caused from the immunizations. I know her husband probably feels resentment against me for " brainwashing " his wife so I am sure that will come up soon. I will keep you all posted. Thank You. I forwarded the replies I got. Kim mom to 4 boys Chicago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 so there was alot more to the story... i do feel horrible for her as well. I don't know what i would do TO MY HUSBAND :-) if i were in her shoes. Communication is soooo important on this issue. And good call on giving them their space right now. I would be there for her on a personal level, but having them over... it would be way too awkward considering the issues they are dealing with as a couple. keep us posted. ari Arianna Mojica - (UCC 1-207/1-103) ~~~ " All rights not demanded are presumed waived " . ~ Thurston ~~~ " The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used " -- Dr. A. , National Institutes of Health ~~~A truth¢s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed...When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic. " Dresden www.vaclib.org www.909shot.com http://www.vacinfo.org/ http://www.vran.org/ http://www.momtoanangel.net/ingred.htm http://www.moorbows.com/ From: Root <gettin.happy@...> Subject: UPDATE ON NEIGHBOR vaccinations Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 10:23 AM Well...it gets worse. Theresa came over this morning for coffee. Apparently her husband did not agree with her decision not to vaccinate. He was not comfortable with the winter coming upon us and told his mom that if they bring up shots to get them. She went on to say that he was afraid of whooping cough because his boss told him some story about his niece dying from whooping cough 5 years ago. She was 11 months. She said she thought they were on the same page but he obviously felt compelled with all the scare tactics and measles going around. She just left 15 minutes ago and her poor daughter spiked a fever in the night and from what she says is more or less " wired " ./ She said she did not stay asleep at all last night. She was up in her crib playing at 2 in the a.m. Don't know what to make of that. She is very angry with her husnband and we were suppose to have them over for a bbq today but I think I will leave them alone. They obviously have communication issues. I just feel sooooooo bad for her. She just kept saying that she feels she " ruined " her daughter. This was the same mom who was convinced that her 3 yr old's speech issues and development delays along with possible ADHD issues were probably caused from the immunizations. I know her husband probably feels resentment against me for " brainwashing " his wife so I am sure that will come up soon. I will keep you all posted. Thank You. I forwarded the replies I got. Kim mom to 4 boys Chicago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Wow what a horrible situation to be in. Communication is definetely key. My husband doesn't have an opinion one way or the other and strictly leaves it up to me to decide saying he trusts my judgement. I am a stay at home mom and I take the kids to all of their appointments no matter what it is for so I don't assume I would end up in that situation but if I were to send the kids with my husband he would refuse them because I have researched it and made the decision not to vaccinate. I truely feel for her. My daughters father had horrible reactions to vaccinations and yet they continued to give them to him. I can't imagine how horrible I would feel if someone went behind my back and gave my daughter vaccinations. UPDATE ON NEIGHBOR Well...it gets worse. Theresa came over this morning for coffee. Apparently her husband did not agree with her decision not to vaccinate. He was not comfortable with the winter coming upon us and told his mom that if they bring up shots to get them. She went on to say that he was afraid of whooping cough because his boss told him some story about his niece dying from whooping cough 5 years ago. She was 11 months. She said she thought they were on the same page but he obviously felt compelled with all the scare tactics and measles going around. She just left 15 minutes ago and her poor daughter spiked a fever in the night and from what she says is more or less " wired " ./ She said she did not stay asleep at all last night. She was up in her crib playing at 2 in the a.m. Don't know what to make of that. She is very angry with her husnband and we were suppose to have them over for a bbq today but I think I will leave them alone. They obviously have communication issues. I just feel sooooooo bad for her. She just kept saying that she feels she " ruined " her daughter. This was the same mom who was convinced that her 3 yr old's speech issues and development delays along with possible ADHD issues were probably caused from the immunizations. I know her husband probably feels resentment against me for " brainwashing " his wife so I am sure that will come up soon. I will keep you all posted. Thank You. I forwarded the replies I got. Kim mom to 4 boys Chicago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Tell her that her daughter isn't ruined! There are lots of ways to help the adhd (diet for one, but that's not all). If she doesn'thave one already she needs to find a good alternative doctor (or along those lines). I'm sure there are homeopathic remedies for this as well..... Regardless- this is really sad. My husband was against my decision as well in the beginning - and he still isn't 100% convinced, but he is respectful of my input. For her husband and mil to go around her back - really bad. I can understand (not agree) with her husband's position as a father who does have say, but the MIL is way out of bounds to be part of it. She obviously doesn't care what her dil thinks of her or their relationship. I would have a very hard time letting her in my kids life after a stunt like that. > > Well...it gets worse. Theresa came over this morning for coffee. Apparently her husband did not agree with her decision not to vaccinate. He was not comfortable with the winter coming upon us and told his mom that if they bring up shots to get them. She went on to say that he was afraid of whooping cough because his boss told him some story about his niece dying from whooping cough 5 years ago. She was 11 months. She said she thought they were on the same page but he obviously felt compelled with all the scare tactics and measles going around. She just left 15 minutes ago and her poor daughter spiked a fever in the night and from what she says is more or less " wired " ./ She said she did not stay asleep at all last night. She was up in her crib playing at 2 in the a.m. Don't know what to make of that. She is very angry with her husnband and we were suppose to have them over for a bbq today but I think I will leave them alone. They obviously have > communication issues. I just feel sooooooo bad for her. She just kept saying that she feels she " ruined " her daughter. This was the same mom who was convinced that her 3 yr old's speech issues and development delays along with possible ADHD issues were probably caused from the immunizations. I know her husband probably feels resentment against me for " brainwashing " his wife so I am sure that will come up soon. I will keep you all posted. Thank You. I forwarded the replies I got. > Kim mom to 4 boys Chicago > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Wow. I don't usually post on this list, I'm a very happy " lurker " soaking in so much wonderful and useful information that has armed me, and kept me very comfortable in my decision to keep both of my little one's completely " untouched " by the medical community (as well as NSAIDs and antibiotics). I happen to be a bit of a firecracker, and feel the need to throw in my unsolicited comment on this one. HOLY CRAP! I cannot speak for anyone else but myself here, wouldn't ever dream of it, BUT......if this happened to me, I would have packed up my * & it immidiately, and left, OR told him to find another place to live until he learned what the word " P-A-R-T-N-E-R-S-H-I-P " meant! And yes, I feel awful for this mom, as I'm sure she is wondering just what sort of relationship she actually has now, with her MIL AND husband. My heart truly hurts for her. I hope she has ton's of strength and support to get her through this, and possibly insurance for marraige counseling? ~Cassie Sala Mama to Canyon 4 1/2, and River 2 1/2, unvaxxed/born at home/water. Birthmom to Sam 8, vaxxed. " If a mother can love more than one child, then why can't a child love more than one mother! ADOPTION, IT IS NOT A SECRET! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 You have to tell whoever takes the kids, including husbands, EACH TIME not to vax. After about 12 years of not vaxing and being extremely vocal about my position on this, my husband took the dog to the vet for some reason and came home with her fully vaccinated because they " said she was overdue. " Who knew he would do something like that?? Winnie UPDATE ON NEIGHBOR > > > Well...it gets worse. Theresa came over this morning for coffee. > Apparently her husband did not agree with her decision not to > vaccinate. He was not comfortable with the winter coming upon > us and told his mom that if they bring up shots to get them. She > went on to say that he was afraid of whooping cough because his > boss told him some story about his niece dying from whooping > cough 5 years ago. She was 11 months. She said she thought they > were on the same page but he obviously felt compelled with all > the scare tactics and measles going around. She just left 15 > minutes ago and her poor daughter spiked a fever in the night > and from what she says is more or less " wired " ./ She said she > did not stay asleep at all last night. She was up in her crib > playing at 2 in the a.m. Don't know what to make of that. She is > very angry with her husnband and we were suppose to have them > over for a bbq today but I think I will leave them alone. They > obviously have > communication issues. I just feel sooooooo bad for her. She just > kept saying that she feels she " ruined " her daughter. This was > the same mom who was convinced that her 3 yr old's speech issues > and development delays along with possible ADHD issues were > probably caused from the immunizations. I know her husband > probably feels resentment against me for " brainwashing " his wife > so I am sure that will come up soon. I will keep you all posted. > Thank You. I forwarded the replies I got. > Kim mom to 4 boys Chicago > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 I agree about the MIL. I would say the husband and his mom planned this. I would probably leave him, forseeing more of the same. Winnie Re: UPDATE ON NEIGHBOR Vaccinations > Tell her that her daughter isn't ruined! There are lots of ways > to > help the adhd (diet for one, but that's not all). If she > doesn'thave > one already she needs to find a good alternative doctor (or > along > those lines). I'm sure there are homeopathic remedies for this > as > well..... > Regardless- this is really sad. My husband was against my > decision as > well in the beginning - and he still isn't 100% convinced, but > he is > respectful of my input. For her husband and mil to go around > her > back - really bad. I can understand (not agree) with her > husband's > position as a father who does have say, but the MIL is way out > of > bounds to be part of it. She obviously doesn't care what her > dil > thinks of her or their relationship. I would have a very hard > time > letting her in my kids life after a stunt like that. > > > > > > Well...it gets worse. Theresa came over this morning for > coffee. > Apparently her husband did not agree with her decision not to > vaccinate. He was not comfortable with the winter coming upon > us > and told his mom that if they bring up shots to get them. She > went on > to say that he was afraid of whooping cough because his boss > told him > some story about his niece dying from whooping cough 5 years > ago. She > was 11 months. She said she thought they were on the same page > but he > obviously felt compelled with all the scare tactics and measles > going > around. She just left 15 minutes ago and her poor daughter > spiked a > fever in the night and from what she says is more or less > " wired " ./ > She said she did not stay asleep at all last night. She was up > in her > crib playing at 2 in the a.m. Don't know what to make of that. > She is > very angry with her husnband and we were suppose to have them > over > for a bbq today but I think I will leave them alone. They > obviously > have > > communication issues. I just feel sooooooo bad for her. She > just > kept saying that she feels she " ruined " her daughter. This was > the > same mom who was convinced that her 3 yr old's speech issues and > development delays along with possible ADHD issues were probably > caused from the immunizations. I know her husband probably feels > resentment against me for " brainwashing " his wife so I am sure > that > will come up soon. I will keep you all posted. Thank You. I > forwarded > the replies I got. > > Kim mom to 4 boys Chicago > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Sad but true. DH's do the darnedest things! When DS had an accident in the street, DH and his friend were there. While waiting for the ambulance, the friend rang me. I said he must come & get me as fast as possible, and DH must go in ambulance with DS. I think they might have heard me without the benefit of the telephone: " Don't let them Xray or vaccinate or give AB's under any circumstances. " His friend picked me up and we beat the ambulance to the hospital. Woohoo! As sure as eggs, they wanted to over Xray and a tetanus shot and AB's for grazes! I allowed the injured portions of his body to be Xrayed and commented that our old family doc could tell if bones were broken without using Xrays. They said he might be concussed. I asked for a list of his symptoms that might indicate concussion. None, they did agree that it was really to cover their own backs. Remember they are the worst type of salespeople! They pay their mortgages at the expense of our families. DH finally got it. Love hearing him explain his stance to others, especially the medicos! Takes a while though, but it helps keep my cortisol levels in check now. From: wharrison@... <wharrison@...> Subject: Re: UPDATE ON NEIGHBOR Vaccinations Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 6:55 PM You have to tell whoever takes the kids, including husbands, EACH TIME not to vax. After about 12 years of not vaxing and being extremely vocal about my position on this, my husband took the dog to the vet for some reason and came home with her fully vaccinated because they " said she was overdue. " Who knew he would do something like that?? Winnie Re: UPDATE ON NEIGHBOR Vaccinations ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 I hear you Just like last year when my partner got 3 vaccines - flu, pneumonia & tetanus I thought I talked too much about this and realize I hadn't talked enough and also didn't realize his fear of illness. He did ask if they had mercury and they told him no - they lied again. Now we have had a serious in depth talk and he says never again...................... Sheri At 02:55 AM 8/29/2008, you wrote: >You have to tell whoever takes the kids, including husbands, EACH >TIME not to vax. After about 12 years of not vaxing and being >extremely vocal about my position on this, my husband took the dog >to the vet for some reason and came home with her fully vaccinated >because they " said she was overdue. " Who knew he would do something like that?? > >Winnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Well that's one thing you don't have to worry about again then! Why's Joe frightened of flu? Sue x -- Re: UPDATE ON NEIGHBOR I hear you Just like last year when my partner got 3 vaccines - flu, pneumonia & tetanus I thought I talked too much about this and realize I hadn't talked enough and also didn't realize his fear of illness. He did ask if they had mercury and they told him no - they lied again. Now we have had a serious in depth talk and he says never again...................... Sheri At 02:55 AM 8/29/2008, you wrote: >You have to tell whoever takes the kids, including husbands, EACH >TIME not to vax. After about 12 years of not vaxing and being >extremely vocal about my position on this, my husband took the dog >to the vet for some reason and came home with her fully vaccinated >because they " said she was overdue. " Who knew he would do something like that?? > >Winnie ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 At 10:28 AM 8/29/2008, you wrote: >Well that's one thing you don't have to worry about again then! Why's Joe >frightened of flu? Propaganda - he was working in a shelter at the time and was exposed to a lot of indigent people and was afraid of catching something. He is just fearful that way. He becomes a Pulsatilla when he is ill also Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes Sept 08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Good thing you got there in time! Re: UPDATE ON NEIGHBOR > Vaccinations > > .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 He trusted them. They might not have even know they were lying, but just spouted the automatic, reassuring words. Buyer beware. Winnie Re: UPDATE ON NEIGHBOR Vaccinations > I hear you > Just like last year when my partner got 3 vaccines - flu, > pneumonia & tetanus > I thought I talked too much about this and realize I hadn't > talked > enough and also didn't realize his fear of illness. > He did ask if they had mercury and they told him no - they lied again. > > Now we have had a serious in depth talk and he says never > again...................... > Sheri > > At 02:55 AM 8/29/2008, you wrote: > >You have to tell whoever takes the kids, including husbands, > EACH > >TIME not to vax. After about 12 years of not vaxing and being > >extremely vocal about my position on this, my husband took the > dog > >to the vet for some reason and came home with her fully > vaccinated > >because they " said she was overdue. " Who knew he would do > something like that?? > > > >Winnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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