Re: CDC Says Measles Outbreak Concerning

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http://news./s/nm/20080821/hl_nm/measles_usa_dc

thoughts?

CDC Says Measles Outbreak " Concerning "

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,408201,00.html

The number of measles cases in the U.S. is at its highest level since 1997,

and nearly half of those involve children whose parents rejected

vaccination, government health officials reported Thursday.

The number of cases is still small, just 131, but that's just for the first

seven months of the year and doctors are troubled by the trend. There were

only 42 cases for all of last year.

" We're seeing a lot more spread. That is concerning to us, " said Dr. Jane

Seward, of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Pediatricians are frustrated, saying they are having to spend more time

convincing parents the shot is safe.

" This year, we certainly have had parents asking more questions, " said Dr.

Ari Brown, an Austin, Texas, physician who is a spokeswoman for the American

Academy of Pediatrics.

The CDC's review found that a number of cases involved home-schooled

children not required to have the vaccines.

Measles, best known for a red skin rash, is a potentially deadly, highly

infectious virus that spreads through contact with a sneezing, coughing,

infected person.

RELATED

* STORIES

* CDC: Fast Facts About the Measles

* U.S. On Verge of Measles Outbreak?

* Measles Outbreak Spreads, Health Officials Issue Warnings

* Study: MMR Vaccine Not Cause of Autism

It is no longer endemic to the United States, but every year some Americans

pick it up while traveling abroad and bring it home. Measles epidemics have

exploded in Israel, Switzerland and some other countries. But high U.S.

childhood vaccination rates have prevented major outbreaks here.

In a typical year, only one outbreak occurs in the United States, infecting

perhaps 10 to 20 people. So far this year through July 30 the country has

seen seven outbreaks, including one in Illinois with 30 cases, said Seward,

deputy director of the CDC's Division of Viral Diseases.

None of the 131 patients died, but 15 were hospitalized.

Childhood vaccination rates for measles continue to exceed 92 percent, but

outbreak pockets seem to be forming, health officials said.

Of this year's total, 122 were unvaccinated or had unknown vaccination

status. Some were unvaccinated because the children were under age 1, making

them too young to get their first measles shot.

In 63 of those cases - almost all of them 19 or younger - the patient or

their parents refused vaccination, the CDC reported.

In Washington state, an outbreak was traced to a religious conference,

including 16 school-aged children who were not vaccinated because of

parents' beliefs. Eleven of those kids were home schooled and not subject to

vaccination rules in public schools.

The Illinois outbreak - triggered by a teenager who had traveled to Italy -

included 25 home-schooled children, according to the CDC report.

The nation once routinely saw hundreds of thousands of measles cases each

year, and hundreds of deaths. But immunization campaigns were credited with

dramatically reducing the numbers. The last time health officials saw this

many cases was 1997, when 138 were reported. Last year, there were only 42

U.S. cases.

The American Academy of Pediatrics has made educating parents about the

safety of vaccines one of its top priorities this year, in part because busy

doctors have grown frustrated at the amount of time they've been spending

answering parents' questions about things they read on the Internet or heard

from TV talk shows.

In June, the CDC interviewed 33 physicians in Austin, suburban Seattle and

Hollywood, Fla., about childhood vaccinations. Several complained about

patient backlogs caused by parents stirred up by information of dubious

scientific merit, according to the CDC report.

Questions commonly center on autism and the fear it can be caused by the

mercury-based preservative that used to be in most vaccines. Since 2001, the

preservative has been removed from shots recommended for young children.

Brown said she wrote a 16-page, single-spaced document for parents that

explains childhood vaccinations and why doctors do not believe they cause

autism. She began handing it out this spring, and thinks it's been a help to

parents and a time-saver for her.

" People want that level of information, " she said.

[Guest guest]

nothing but propaganda.

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, National Institutes of Health

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masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its

speaker, a raving lunatic. " Dresden

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CDC Says Measles Outbreak " Concerning "

http://www.foxnews. com/story/ 0,2933,408201, 00.html

The number of measles cases in the U.S. is at its highest level since 1997,

and nearly half of those involve children whose parents rejected

vaccination, government health officials reported Thursday.

The number of cases is still small, just 131, but that's just for the first

seven months of the year and doctors are troubled by the trend. There were

only 42 cases for all of last year.

" We're seeing a lot more spread. That is concerning to us, " said Dr. Jane

Seward, of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Pediatricians are frustrated, saying they are having to spend more time

convincing parents the shot is safe.

" This year, we certainly have had parents asking more questions, " said Dr.

Ari Brown, an Austin, Texas, physician who is a spokeswoman for the American

Academy of Pediatrics.

The CDC's review found that a number of cases involved home-schooled

children not required to have the vaccines.

Measles, best known for a red skin rash, is a potentially deadly, highly

infectious virus that spreads through contact with a sneezing, coughing,

infected person.

RELATED

* STORIES

* CDC: Fast Facts About the Measles

* U.S. On Verge of Measles Outbreak?

* Measles Outbreak Spreads, Health Officials Issue Warnings

* Study: MMR Vaccine Not Cause of Autism

It is no longer endemic to the United States, but every year some Americans

pick it up while traveling abroad and bring it home. Measles epidemics have

exploded in Israel, Switzerland and some other countries. But high U.S.

childhood vaccination rates have prevented major outbreaks here.

In a typical year, only one outbreak occurs in the United States, infecting

perhaps 10 to 20 people. So far this year through July 30 the country has

seen seven outbreaks, including one in Illinois with 30 cases, said Seward,

deputy director of the CDC's Division of Viral Diseases.

None of the 131 patients died, but 15 were hospitalized.

Childhood vaccination rates for measles continue to exceed 92 percent, but

outbreak pockets seem to be forming, health officials said.

Of this year's total, 122 were unvaccinated or had unknown vaccination

status. Some were unvaccinated because the children were under age 1, making

them too young to get their first measles shot.

In 63 of those cases - almost all of them 19 or younger - the patient or

their parents refused vaccination, the CDC reported.

In Washington state, an outbreak was traced to a religious conference,

including 16 school-aged children who were not vaccinated because of

parents' beliefs. Eleven of those kids were home schooled and not subject to

vaccination rules in public schools.

The Illinois outbreak - triggered by a teenager who had traveled to Italy -

included 25 home-schooled children, according to the CDC report.

The nation once routinely saw hundreds of thousands of measles cases each

year, and hundreds of deaths. But immunization campaigns were credited with

dramatically reducing the numbers. The last time health officials saw this

many cases was 1997, when 138 were reported. Last year, there were only 42

U.S. cases.

The American Academy of Pediatrics has made educating parents about the

safety of vaccines one of its top priorities this year, in part because busy

doctors have grown frustrated at the amount of time they've been spending

answering parents' questions about things they read on the Internet or heard

from TV talk shows.

In June, the CDC interviewed 33 physicians in Austin, suburban Seattle and

Hollywood, Fla., about childhood vaccinations. Several complained about

patient backlogs caused by parents stirred up by information of dubious

scientific merit, according to the CDC report.

Questions commonly center on autism and the fear it can be caused by the

mercury-based preservative that used to be in most vaccines. Since 2001, the

preservative has been removed from shots recommended for young children.

Brown said she wrote a 16-page, single-spaced document for parents that

explains childhood vaccinations and why doctors do not believe they cause

autism. She began handing it out this spring, and thinks it's been a help to

parents and a time-saver for her.

" People want that level of information, " she said.

[Guest guest]

* " " In the decade before the measles vaccination program began, an estimated

3 to 4 million persons in the United States were infected each year. Of

these, 400 to 500 died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and another 1,000

developed chronic disability from measles encephalitis. " *

*Encephalitis is a life-threatening inflammation of the brain that can be

caused by viral infections such as measles. " *

Wow, scary, measles can cause encephalitis!! Oh wait, so can vaccines!! I

wonder what the stats are for vaccine induced encephalitis??

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[Guest guest]

I don't post here often but have learned so much. The thing that jumped out to

me in this

article was that it said nearly half were unvaccinated. So half were

vaccinated. Seems to me

that should tell them something. You have the same risk of getting measles

whether you

have been vaccinated or not. I don't see how they can turn something like this

into a pro-

vaccine push when it has conflicting information. But, I am sure they will find

a way.

> The number of measles cases in the U.S. is at its highest level since 1997,

and nearly half

of those involve children whose parents rejected vaccination, government health

officials

reported Thursday.

Tomi

Proud mom of 2 unvaxed babes

[Guest guest]

>

> I don't post here often but have learned so much. The thing that

jumped out to me in this

> article was that it said nearly half were unvaccinated. So half were

vaccinated. Seems to me

> that should tell them something. You have the same risk of getting

measles whether you

> have been vaccinated or not. I don't see how they can turn something

like this into a pro-

> vaccine push when it has conflicting information.

They say that unvaccinated crowd underminds herd immunity. As more

people refuse vaccines, diseases will be coming back more often. That's

hwat i was told by one doctor whom i asked this same question.

Katarina

[Guest guest]

My question is what is the CDC, AAP and AMA doing about researching the

increase in autism, diabetes, learning disabilities, etc...that are

linked to vaccines? What is the reason if it is not vaccinations and

or the toxins according to them?

Also, whay does it seem like most doctors are on board with what seems

so obvious to me and certainly to the rest of the members in this group?

[Guest guest]

They are letting the pharmaceutical companies figure it all out, that's what.

I don't know why the docs can't see what is obvious. Maybe they don't want to

have wasted all that time in med school just to pursue another career, so they

ignore their consciences?

Winnie

Re: CDC Says Measles Outbreak " Concerning "

Vaccinations

> My question is what is the CDC, AAP and AMA doing about

> researching the

> increase in autism, diabetes, learning disabilities, etc...that

> are

> linked to vaccines? What is the reason if it is not

> vaccinations and

> or the toxins according to them?

> Also, whay does it seem like most doctors are on board with what

> seems

> so obvious to me and certainly to the rest of the members in

> this group?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

" Pediatricians are frustrated, saying they are having to spend more time

convincing parents the shot is safe.

" This year, we certainly have had parents asking more questions, " said Dr.

Ari Brown, an Austin, Texas, physician who is a spokeswoman for the American

Academy of Pediatrics....

....The American Academy of Pediatrics has made educating parents about the

safety of vaccines one of its top priorities this year, in part because busy

doctors have grown frustrated at the amount of time they've been spending

answering parents' questions about things they read on the Internet or heard

from TV talk shows. "

Why is it that the parents asking questions is seen as something that

*shouldn't* be happening? Poor ickle pediatricians having to spend

more than 5 minutes (for their upwards of $100 an hour paycheck)

answering questions from concerned parents. They really do want us all

to just shut up and trust everything they say, don't they?

Reminds me of when I went to an eye doctor and he was very angry with

me for asking questions, even went as far as to say, " I'M the doctor,

YOU'RE the patient! " I hate being treated like I am an idiot by

doctors. I'm pretty dang bright and I'm sure you all are too because

we are reading and researching and asking those questions (they don't

want to answer...or don't want to take time to answer.)

What kind of a doctor complains that they have to answer their

patient's questions? That's INSANE! How I hate the medical community

and how money hungry they are.

Jerica

[Guest guest]

Let's blame the internet and TV talk shows for bringing the truth to light,

rather than the doctors for hiding it.

This is actually good news to hear that they are scrambling to convince people

vaccines are safe. I wonder how they do that, with facts? With the package

inserts? With non-existent scientific studies? Or maybe they're pulling the same

old " I've never seen any of these problems in my practice " routine that they

think means something.

Winnie

Re: CDC Says Measles Outbreak " Concerning "

Vaccinations

> " Pediatricians are frustrated, saying they are having to spend

> more time

> convincing parents the shot is safe.

> " This year, we certainly have had parents asking more

> questions, " said Dr.

> Ari Brown, an Austin, Texas, physician who is a spokeswoman for

> the American

> Academy of Pediatrics....

>

> ...The American Academy of Pediatrics has made educating parents

> about the

> safety of vaccines one of its top priorities this year, in part

> because busy

> doctors have grown frustrated at the amount of time they've been

> spendinganswering parents' questions about things they read on

> the Internet or heard

> from TV talk shows. "

>

> Why is it that the parents asking questions is seen as something that

> *shouldn't* be happening? Poor ickle pediatricians having to spend

> more than 5 minutes (for their upwards of $100 an hour paycheck)

> answering questions from concerned parents. They really do want

> us all

> to just shut up and trust everything they say, don't they?

>

> Reminds me of when I went to an eye doctor and he was very angry with

> me for asking questions, even went as far as to say, " I'M the doctor,

> YOU'RE the patient! " I hate being treated like I am an idiot by

> doctors. I'm pretty dang bright and I'm sure you all are too because

> we are reading and researching and asking those questions (they don't

> want to answer...or don't want to take time to answer.)

>

> What kind of a doctor complains that they have to answer their

> patient's questions? That's INSANE! How I hate the medical community

> and how money hungry they are.

>

> Jerica

>

[Guest guest]

Granted, I'm no statistician but it appears that the mortality rate

after the introduction of vaccines is worse than before its

introduction.

" In the decade before the measles vaccination program began, an

estimated 3 to 4 million persons in the United States were infected

each year. Of these, 400 to 500 died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and

another 1,000 developed chronic disability from measles encephalitis. "

I calculate that hospitalizations were about 1.3/1,000 infections, and

deaths were about 1/1,000 infections.

however:

" The last serious U.S. outbreak was in 1989-1991, when 55,000 people

got measles and 123 died. "

This means that mortality after vaccination programs had been in use

for a couple of decades rose to 2.2 deaths/1,000 infections.

Anyone, please feel free to correct my math if wrong.

If I am correct, is this what they call progress?

Russ

>

> http://news./s/nm/20080821/hl_nm/measles_usa_dc

>

> thoughts?

>

> CDC Says Measles Outbreak " Concerning "

>

> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,408201,00.html

> The number of measles cases in the U.S. is at its highest level

since 1997,

> and nearly half of those involve children whose parents rejected

> vaccination, government health officials reported Thursday.

> The number of cases is still small, just 131, but that's just for

the first

> seven months of the year and doctors are troubled by the trend.

There were

> only 42 cases for all of last year.

> " We're seeing a lot more spread. That is concerning to us, " said Dr.

Jane

> Seward, of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

> Pediatricians are frustrated, saying they are having to spend more time

> convincing parents the shot is safe.

> " This year, we certainly have had parents asking more questions, "

said Dr.

> Ari Brown, an Austin, Texas, physician who is a spokeswoman for the

American

> Academy of Pediatrics.

> The CDC's review found that a number of cases involved home-schooled

> children not required to have the vaccines.

> Measles, best known for a red skin rash, is a potentially deadly, highly

> infectious virus that spreads through contact with a sneezing, coughing,

> infected person.

> RELATED

> * STORIES

> * CDC: Fast Facts About the Measles

> * U.S. On Verge of Measles Outbreak?

> * Measles Outbreak Spreads, Health Officials Issue Warnings

> * Study: MMR Vaccine Not Cause of Autism

> It is no longer endemic to the United States, but every year some

Americans

> pick it up while traveling abroad and bring it home. Measles

epidemics have

> exploded in Israel, Switzerland and some other countries. But high U.S.

> childhood vaccination rates have prevented major outbreaks here.

> In a typical year, only one outbreak occurs in the United States,

infecting

> perhaps 10 to 20 people. So far this year through July 30 the

country has

> seen seven outbreaks, including one in Illinois with 30 cases, said

Seward,

> deputy director of the CDC's Division of Viral Diseases.

> None of the 131 patients died, but 15 were hospitalized.

> Childhood vaccination rates for measles continue to exceed 92

percent, but

> outbreak pockets seem to be forming, health officials said.

> Of this year's total, 122 were unvaccinated or had unknown vaccination

> status. Some were unvaccinated because the children were under age

1, making

> them too young to get their first measles shot.

> In 63 of those cases - almost all of them 19 or younger - the patient or

> their parents refused vaccination, the CDC reported.

> In Washington state, an outbreak was traced to a religious conference,

> including 16 school-aged children who were not vaccinated because of

> parents' beliefs. Eleven of those kids were home schooled and not

subject to

> vaccination rules in public schools.

> The Illinois outbreak - triggered by a teenager who had traveled to

Italy -

> included 25 home-schooled children, according to the CDC report.

> The nation once routinely saw hundreds of thousands of measles cases

each

> year, and hundreds of deaths. But immunization campaigns were

credited with

> dramatically reducing the numbers. The last time health officials

saw this

> many cases was 1997, when 138 were reported. Last year, there were

only 42

> U.S. cases.

> The American Academy of Pediatrics has made educating parents about the

> safety of vaccines one of its top priorities this year, in part

because busy

> doctors have grown frustrated at the amount of time they've been

spending

> answering parents' questions about things they read on the Internet

or heard

> from TV talk shows.

> In June, the CDC interviewed 33 physicians in Austin, suburban

Seattle and

> Hollywood, Fla., about childhood vaccinations. Several complained about

> patient backlogs caused by parents stirred up by information of dubious

> scientific merit, according to the CDC report.

> Questions commonly center on autism and the fear it can be caused by the

> mercury-based preservative that used to be in most vaccines. Since

2001, the

> preservative has been removed from shots recommended for young children.

> Brown said she wrote a 16-page, single-spaced document for parents that

> explains childhood vaccinations and why doctors do not believe they

cause

> autism. She began handing it out this spring, and thinks it's been a

help to

> parents and a time-saver for her.

> " People want that level of information, " she said.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

<<Or maybe they're pulling the same

old " I've never seen any of these problems in my practice " routine that they

think means something.>>

Means something to me - they wouldn't know a vaccine reaction if it bit them in

the face.

>

> Let's blame the internet and TV talk shows for bringing the truth to light,

rather than the

doctors for hiding it.

>

> This is actually good news to hear that they are scrambling to convince people

vaccines are

safe. I wonder how they do that, with facts? With the package inserts? With

non-existent

scientific studies? Or maybe they're pulling the same old " I've never seen any

of these

problems in my practice " routine that they think means something.

>

> Winnie

>

[Guest guest]

the cdc is spinning the news to spread fear & control !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

roger

From: <lvmy2kats@...>

Subject: Re: CDC Says Measles Outbreak " Concerning "

Vaccinations

Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 11:15 AM

<<Or maybe they're pulling the same

old " I've never seen any of these problems in my practice " routine that they

think means something.>>

Means something to me - they wouldn't know a vaccine reaction if it bit them in

the face.

>

> Let's blame the internet and TV talk shows for bringing the truth to light,

rather than the

doctors for hiding it.

>

> This is actually good news to hear that they are scrambling to convince people

vaccines are

safe. I wonder how they do that, with facts? With the package inserts? With

non-existent

scientific studies? Or maybe they're pulling the same old " I've never seen any

of these

problems in my practice " routine that they think means something.

>

> Winnie

>

[Guest guest]

exactly roger!!!  we must be getting out of hand.  the sheeple must be

contained.

Arianna Mojica -   (UCC 1-207/1-103) 

~~~ " All rights not demanded are presumed waived " . ~ Thurston

~~~ " The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used " -- Dr. A.

, National Institutes of Health

~~~A truth¢s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie

was believed...When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the

masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its

speaker, a raving lunatic. " Dresden

www.vaclib.org 

www.909shot.com

 http://www.vacinfo.org/

http://www.vran.org/

http://www.momtoanangel.net/ingred.htm

 

http://www.moorbows.com/

From: <lvmy2kats@insightbb .com>

Subject: Re: CDC Says Measles Outbreak " Concerning "

Vaccinations

Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 11:15 AM

<<Or maybe they're pulling the same

old " I've never seen any of these problems in my practice " routine that they

think means something.>>

Means something to me - they wouldn't know a vaccine reaction if it bit them in

the face.

>

> Let's blame the internet and TV talk shows for bringing the truth to light,

rather than the

doctors for hiding it.

>

> This is actually good news to hear that they are scrambling to convince people

vaccines are

safe. I wonder how they do that, with facts? With the package inserts? With

non-existent

scientific studies? Or maybe they're pulling the same old " I've never seen any

of these

problems in my practice " routine that they think means something.

>

> Winnie

>

[Guest guest]

~ Reminds me of when I went to an eye doctor and he was very angry

with

me for asking questions, even went as far as to say, " I'M the

doctor, YOU'RE the patient! "

That is the perfect opportunity for you to say " I am glad you

understand that - YOU work for me! "

Sylvia

>

> " Pediatricians are frustrated, saying they are having to spend more

time

> convincing parents the shot is safe.

> " This year, we certainly have had parents asking more questions, "

said Dr.

> Ari Brown, an Austin, Texas, physician who is a spokeswoman for the

American

> Academy of Pediatrics....

>

> ...The American Academy of Pediatrics has made educating parents

about the

> safety of vaccines one of its top priorities this year, in part

because busy

> doctors have grown frustrated at the amount of time they've been

spending

> answering parents' questions about things they read on the Internet

or heard

> from TV talk shows. "

>

> Why is it that the parents asking questions is seen as something

that

> *shouldn't* be happening? Poor ickle pediatricians having to spend

> more than 5 minutes (for their upwards of $100 an hour paycheck)

> answering questions from concerned parents. They really do want us

all

> to just shut up and trust everything they say, don't they?

>

> Reminds me of when I went to an eye doctor and he was very angry

with

> me for asking questions, even went as far as to say, " I'M the

doctor,

> YOU'RE the patient! " I hate being treated like I am an idiot by

> doctors. I'm pretty dang bright and I'm sure you all are too because

> we are reading and researching and asking those questions (they

don't

> want to answer...or don't want to take time to answer.)

>

> What kind of a doctor complains that they have to answer their

> patient's questions? That's INSANE! How I hate the medical community

> and how money hungry they are.

>

> Jerica

>

[Guest guest]

Anyone know who I can contact about the MISINFORMATION on this whole

measles thing??

I've been looking and can't find the authors of the articles because

it just says it was written by the Associated Press.

If anyone has the email of whoever I could contact I'd greatly

apprecaite it!!

In fact....I think I'll try to find the information on who to contact

at fox news since they seem to be running this story EVERY

HOUR....it's just such CRAP!!

> >

> > " Pediatricians are frustrated, saying they are having to spend

more

> time

> > convincing parents the shot is safe.

> > " This year, we certainly have had parents asking more questions, "

> said Dr.

> > Ari Brown, an Austin, Texas, physician who is a spokeswoman for

the

> American

> > Academy of Pediatrics....

> >

> > ...The American Academy of Pediatrics has made educating parents

> about the

> > safety of vaccines one of its top priorities this year, in part

> because busy

> > doctors have grown frustrated at the amount of time they've been

> spending

> > answering parents' questions about things they read on the

Internet

> or heard

> > from TV talk shows. "

> >

> > Why is it that the parents asking questions is seen as something

> that

> > *shouldn't* be happening? Poor ickle pediatricians having to spend

> > more than 5 minutes (for their upwards of $100 an hour paycheck)

> > answering questions from concerned parents. They really do want

us

> all

> > to just shut up and trust everything they say, don't they?

> >

> > Reminds me of when I went to an eye doctor and he was very angry

> with

> > me for asking questions, even went as far as to say, " I'M the

> doctor,

> > YOU'RE the patient! " I hate being treated like I am an idiot by

> > doctors. I'm pretty dang bright and I'm sure you all are too

because

> > we are reading and researching and asking those questions (they

> don't

> > want to answer...or don't want to take time to answer.)

> >

> > What kind of a doctor complains that they have to answer their

> > patient's questions? That's INSANE! How I hate the medical

community

> > and how money hungry they are.

> >

> > Jerica

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You're right. These side effects are so common, they call them " normal. "

When my first son was born in 1990, they were still using the DPT. After his 2

month shots, he slept solid all day. I wasn't worried at the time but now know

that back then, that was considered a side effect. Once it became common, they

TOOK IT OFF THE LIST of serious reactions. It should have been a red flag that

he shouldn't have gotten any more.

I am lucky he woke up.

Winnie

Re: CDC Says Measles Outbreak " Concerning "

Vaccinations

> <> old " I've never seen any of these problems in my practice "

> routine that they

> think means something.>>

>

> Means something to me - they wouldn't know a vaccine reaction if

> it bit them in the face.

>

>

>

> >

> > Let's blame the internet and TV talk shows for bringing the

> truth to light, rather than the

> doctors for hiding it.

> >

> > This is actually good news to hear that they are scrambling to

> convince people vaccines are

> safe. I wonder how they do that, with facts? With the package

> inserts? With non-existent

> scientific studies? Or maybe they're pulling the same old " I've

> never seen any of these

> problems in my practice " routine that they think means something.

> >

> > Winnie

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, they are on the defensive. We have to push harder.

Winnie

Re: CDC Says Measles Outbreak " Concerning "

> Vaccinations

> Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 11:15 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> <> old " I've never seen any of these problems in my practice "

> routine that they

> think means something.>>

>

> Means something to me - they wouldn't know a vaccine reaction if

> it bit them in the face.

>

>

> >

> > Let's blame the internet and TV talk shows for bringing the

> truth to light, rather than the

> doctors for hiding it.

> >

> > This is actually good news to hear that they are scrambling to

> convince people vaccines are

> safe. I wonder how they do that, with facts? With the package

> inserts? With non-existent

> scientific studies? Or maybe they're pulling the same old " I've

> never seen any of these

> problems in my practice " routine that they think means something.

> >

> > Winnie

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

And why is it that just because more and more kids suffer from the same side

effect that

means you shouldn't be worried or concerned? Hmmm... wonder when autism will

hit that

side of the list.

>

> You're right. These side effects are so common, they call them " normal. "

>

> When my first son was born in 1990, they were still using the DPT. After his 2

month

shots, he slept solid all day. I wasn't worried at the time but now know that

back then, that

was considered a side effect. Once it became common, they TOOK IT OFF THE LIST

of serious

reactions. It should have been a red flag that he shouldn't have gotten any

more.

>

> I am lucky he woke up.

>

> Winnie

[Guest guest]

I hate articles like this and wish people could see the lies in them.

When they say how many children got measles in years before vaccines,

that is just an estimate as the most parents did not take their

children to the doctor's for measles (making death rate far lower than

they say.) Death rate from measles, most likely due to medications or

malnutrition, or not measles at all. The majority of measles cases

diagnosed today is not even measles and also in the past measles,

rubella, roseola, parvo and other diseases were all classified and

considered measles. Stats are never correct, not in the present and

most definitely not the ones from the past.

Another thing I hate is this " 122 were unvaccinated or had unknown

vaccination

status. Some were unvaccinated because the children were under age 1,

making

them too young to get their first measles shot. "

So 122 were unvaccinated or had unknown vaccination status??? That

could totally mean that most of them WERE vaccinated, but they are

still grouped in the unvaccinated group. And some were unvaccinated

because the children were under 1??? Well, how many is some? And they

should blame that on the vaccine and the mother not having natural

immunity to pass on. They give such clear (although false) scare

statistics from 70 years ago, but from something so recent things are

left very unclear.

Also they don't give any statistics regarding death and injury from the

MMR vaccine, which they do have and even admit that their recorded

injuries and deaths are only a fraction of what it really is.

Articles like this make me angry and are only used to further scare

already concerned parents.