Guest guest Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 Beth, Hi I too have a dd with Ds who is 3. We're not sure whether she has apraxia or not....her ST mentioned it Friday. What can YOU tell me? lol I would appreciate any thing you guys could help me with. Im not completely familiar with it however I do know what it is...just not the different treatments. please help. ~Angie May God Bless You As He Has Us www.babiesonline.com/babies/s/sydniebrooke mom to Sydnie (3, Ds), 3 angels in Heaven http://www.earningforce.com/go.cgi?sydniesmom5 [ ] I am new here! Hello - My name is Beth and I am mom to two beautiful children ages 7 and 4. My younger, Zachary, has Down Syndrome and significant speech delays. He uses sign language primarily to communicate and his vocabulary is sooo limited. He receives services through our school and has improved over the last year. My question is in regards to Pro-EFA and other dietary supplements. What research is available on this? And those who have used it, what kinds of affects does it have on your children, both positive and negative? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 7/15/03 The various websites do have information regarding the fish oil supplements. Go to http://www.apraxia.cc and click on the link for this. The study was done and as far as can be seen, only positives for this. Progress isn't that fast, but it still definately shows. good luck selena [ ] I am new here! Hello - My name is Beth and I am mom to two beautiful children ages 7 and 4. My younger, Zachary, has Down Syndrome and significant speech delays. He uses sign language primarily to communicate and his vocabulary is sooo limited. He receives services through our school and has improved over the last year. My question is in regards to Pro-EFA and other dietary supplements. What research is available on this? And those who have used it, what kinds of affects does it have on your children, both positive and negative? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Hi JoAnn Where are you from? I am so sorry that you are sick and had to join us. But you are right, we have become friends because we share so much. Since I joined this group I have learned so much in how to take care of my self. You are right about having to get your implants out. The only way you will start to get better is to get those toxic bags out of you. I was explanted one year ago this month and I can honesty tell you that I am 90% better. Lets us know where you are from and someone on the group can help you find the right ps to remove your implants. Cricket --- In , " jbbc_2005 " <jbbc_2005@y...> wrote: > I am new to this site. I have learned alot while reading your > stories. I feel like this site is a big group of friends sharing, > feeling, fears, love and hope. I would like to be a part of that. > > I need to get my two year old Saline Implants out and need help. I > need to get recommendations of good plastic surgeons to do my explant > and possibly treatment afterwards. I am scared, but want to be > around for my two year old. > > Can anyone give my some recommendations from your own experience. > Thank you and God Bless. JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 JoAnn, where are you? Lynda At 11:08 PM 4/30/2004, you wrote: >I am new to this site. I have learned alot while reading your >stories. I feel like this site is a big group of friends sharing, >feeling, fears, love and hope. I would like to be a part of that. > >I need to get my two year old Saline Implants out and need help. I >need to get recommendations of good plastic surgeons to do my explant >and possibly treatment afterwards. I am scared, but want to be >around for my two year old. > >Can anyone give my some recommendations from your own experience. >Thank you and God Bless. JoAnn > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 --- HI Joanne, and welcome!!! Are you sick or having symptoms, if so what are they? I just want to clarify why you are getting them out. YOull find alot of support and info here!!! Love and blessings, Iggy In , " jbbc_2005 " <jbbc_2005@y...> wrote: > I am new to this site. I have learned alot while reading your > stories. I feel like this site is a big group of friends sharing, > feeling, fears, love and hope. I would like to be a part of that. > > I need to get my two year old Saline Implants out and need help. I > need to get recommendations of good plastic surgeons to do my explant > and possibly treatment afterwards. I am scared, but want to be > around for my two year old. > > Can anyone give my some recommendations from your own experience. > Thank you and God Bless. JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 Dr Lu Feng would be my first choice, she is in Cleveland Ohio, other than that there are a handful I would trust. Some of the others can help you. In my opinion though, if you want to get a lift too, Feng is the absolute best. Hugs C In , " jbbc_2005 " <jbbc_2005@y...> wrote: > I am new to this site. I have learned alot while reading your > stories. I feel like this site is a big group of friends sharing, > feeling, fears, love and hope. I would like to be a part of that. > > I need to get my two year old Saline Implants out and need help. I > need to get recommendations of good plastic surgeons to do my explant > and possibly treatment afterwards. I am scared, but want to be > around for my two year old. > > Can anyone give my some recommendations from your own experience. > Thank you and God Bless. JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 Dr. Huang also does internal stitching to help prevent you having to have a lift also. She says 80% of women do not need one, and it is additional thousands. Lynda At 10:53 AM 5/2/2004, you wrote: >Dr Lu Feng would be my first choice, she is in Cleveland Ohio, >other than that there are a handful I would trust. Some of the others >can help you. In my opinion though, if you want to get a lift too, >Feng is the absolute best. >Hugs >C > > > > > > > In , " jbbc_2005 " <jbbc_2005@y...> wrote: > > I am new to this site. I have learned alot while reading your > > stories. I feel like this site is a big group of friends sharing, > > feeling, fears, love and hope. I would like to be a part of that. > > > > I need to get my two year old Saline Implants out and need help. I > > need to get recommendations of good plastic surgeons to do my >explant > > and possibly treatment afterwards. I am scared, but want to be > > around for my two year old. > > > > Can anyone give my some recommendations from your own experience. > > Thank you and God Bless. JoAnn > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 BUT IF YOU DO NEED A LIFT NO ONE DOES IT BETTER THAN DR FENG!I have not seen so many photos of Dr Huang patients and have seen literally tons of Fengs. Feng did Iggy and she did not get a lift. I do not think Dr Feng does lifts unless they are needed, in my CASE if you look at my before and afters it is extremely obvious I needed a lift. I hate to say this but alot of the women I have seen that have been explanted in my own opinion would have benefited from a lift. The scars go away and your left with nice perky breasts. I see nothing wrong with getting a lift to improve how you feel about yourself. hugs In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > Dr. Huang also does internal stitching to help prevent you having to have a > lift also. She says 80% of women do not need one, and it is additional > thousands. > > Lynda > > > At 10:53 AM 5/2/2004, you wrote: > >Dr Lu Feng would be my first choice, she is in Cleveland Ohio, > >other than that there are a handful I would trust. Some of the others > >can help you. In my opinion though, if you want to get a lift too, > >Feng is the absolute best. > >Hugs > >C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In , " jbbc_2005 " <jbbc_2005@y...> wrote: > > > I am new to this site. I have learned alot while reading your > > > stories. I feel like this site is a big group of friends sharing, > > > feeling, fears, love and hope. I would like to be a part of that. > > > > > > I need to get my two year old Saline Implants out and need help. I > > > need to get recommendations of good plastic surgeons to do my > >explant > > > and possibly treatment afterwards. I am scared, but want to be > > > around for my two year old. > > > > > > Can anyone give my some recommendations from your own experience. > > > Thank you and God Bless. JoAnn > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 PS I was not necesarily speaking of anyone on this group, but I have seen some photos over on explantation.com that I thought how nice they would have came out had they gotten a lift. Saggy breasts can be fixed without implants. Hugs PS Dr Feng also uses internal disolvable stitches, she uses opthamology tools to cut and this is also the only PS I have heard of that uses those along with very thin sutures (the size of a hair) that is tiny, with beveled cutting of the skin so that the skin lays flatter and less chance of raised scars. I have no visible scarring. In , " naturalbeauty38 " <naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote: > BUT IF YOU DO NEED A LIFT NO ONE DOES IT BETTER THAN DR FENG!I have > not seen so many photos of Dr Huang patients and have seen literally > tons of Fengs. Feng did Iggy and she did not get a lift. I do not > think Dr Feng does lifts unless they are needed, in my CASE if you > look at my before and afters it is extremely obvious I needed a lift. > I hate to say this but alot of the women I have seen that have been > explanted in my own opinion would have benefited from a lift. The > scars go away and your left with nice perky breasts. I see nothing > wrong with getting a lift to improve how you feel about yourself. > hugs > > > > > > > In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > > Dr. Huang also does internal stitching to help prevent you having > to have a > > lift also. She says 80% of women do not need one, and it is > additional > > thousands. > > > > Lynda > > > > > > At 10:53 AM 5/2/2004, you wrote: > > >Dr Lu Feng would be my first choice, she is in Cleveland Ohio, > > >other than that there are a handful I would trust. Some of the > others > > >can help you. In my opinion though, if you want to get a lift too, > > >Feng is the absolute best. > > >Hugs > > >C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In , " jbbc_2005 " <jbbc_2005@y...> > wrote: > > > > I am new to this site. I have learned alot while reading your > > > > stories. I feel like this site is a big group of friends > sharing, > > > > feeling, fears, love and hope. I would like to be a part of > that. > > > > > > > > I need to get my two year old Saline Implants out and need > help. I > > > > need to get recommendations of good plastic surgeons to do my > > >explant > > > > and possibly treatment afterwards. I am scared, but want to be > > > > around for my two year old. > > > > > > > > Can anyone give my some recommendations from your own > experience. > > > > Thank you and God Bless. JoAnn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 , Do you have anything against Dr. Huang. It sure sounds like it. She was trained by the same people, does the same work and is thousands less. And she is an expert at doing lifts. Bashing our great doctors in not a good thing. Lynda At 03:18 PM 5/2/2004, you wrote: >BUT IF YOU DO NEED A LIFT NO ONE DOES IT BETTER THAN DR FENG!I have >not seen so many photos of Dr Huang patients and have seen literally >tons of Fengs. Feng did Iggy and she did not get a lift. I do not >think Dr Feng does lifts unless they are needed, in my CASE if you >look at my before and afters it is extremely obvious I needed a lift. >I hate to say this but alot of the women I have seen that have been >explanted in my own opinion would have benefited from a lift. The >scars go away and your left with nice perky breasts. I see nothing >wrong with getting a lift to improve how you feel about yourself. >hugs > > > > > > >In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > > Dr. Huang also does internal stitching to help prevent you having >to have a > > lift also. She says 80% of women do not need one, and it is >additional > > thousands. > > > > Lynda > > > > > > At 10:53 AM 5/2/2004, you wrote: > > >Dr Lu Feng would be my first choice, she is in Cleveland Ohio, > > >other than that there are a handful I would trust. Some of the >others > > >can help you. In my opinion though, if you want to get a lift too, > > >Feng is the absolute best. > > >Hugs > > >C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In , " jbbc_2005 " <jbbc_2005@y...> >wrote: > > > > I am new to this site. I have learned alot while reading your > > > > stories. I feel like this site is a big group of friends >sharing, > > > > feeling, fears, love and hope. I would like to be a part of >that. > > > > > > > > I need to get my two year old Saline Implants out and need >help. I > > > > need to get recommendations of good plastic surgeons to do my > > >explant > > > > and possibly treatment afterwards. I am scared, but want to be > > > > around for my two year old. > > > > > > > > Can anyone give my some recommendations from your own >experience. > > > > Thank you and God Bless. JoAnn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2004 Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 wow i NEVER BASHED ANYONE ooops caps on sorry. I just happen to feel that I got superior results and that I have seen more work (photos) of Dr Fengs work. I never bashed anyone. Why are you so sensitive on this issue. I am not going to change my opinion, Dr Feng is the best, she may charge more cause she is worth it. Dr Huang does support 's implantinfo and that does bother me. But I have no problems with her surgical skills, I just feel a doctor who is the best is what Dr Feng is. Having been to her and having the excellent results that I did, she is the only one I honestly will ever recomend. I am sorry if you do not agree with me. We all have our opinions, so maybe try to respect mine. thanks In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > , Do you have anything against Dr. Huang. It sure sounds like > it. She was trained by the same people, does the same work and is > thousands less. And she is an expert at doing lifts. Bashing our great > doctors in not a good thing. > > Lynda > > > At 03:18 PM 5/2/2004, you wrote: > >BUT IF YOU DO NEED A LIFT NO ONE DOES IT BETTER THAN DR FENG!I have > >not seen so many photos of Dr Huang patients and have seen literally > >tons of Fengs. Feng did Iggy and she did not get a lift. I do not > >think Dr Feng does lifts unless they are needed, in my CASE if you > >look at my before and afters it is extremely obvious I needed a lift. > >I hate to say this but alot of the women I have seen that have been > >explanted in my own opinion would have benefited from a lift. The > >scars go away and your left with nice perky breasts. I see nothing > >wrong with getting a lift to improve how you feel about yourself. > >hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > > > Dr. Huang also does internal stitching to help prevent you having > >to have a > > > lift also. She says 80% of women do not need one, and it is > >additional > > > thousands. > > > > > > Lynda > > > > > > > > > At 10:53 AM 5/2/2004, you wrote: > > > >Dr Lu Feng would be my first choice, she is in Cleveland Ohio, > > > >other than that there are a handful I would trust. Some of the > >others > > > >can help you. In my opinion though, if you want to get a lift too, > > > >Feng is the absolute best. > > > >Hugs > > > >C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In , " jbbc_2005 " <jbbc_2005@y...> > >wrote: > > > > > I am new to this site. I have learned alot while reading your > > > > > stories. I feel like this site is a big group of friends > >sharing, > > > > > feeling, fears, love and hope. I would like to be a part of > >that. > > > > > > > > > > I need to get my two year old Saline Implants out and need > >help. I > > > > > need to get recommendations of good plastic surgeons to do my > > > >explant > > > > > and possibly treatment afterwards. I am scared, but want to be > > > > > around for my two year old. > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone give my some recommendations from your own > >experience. > > > > > Thank you and God Bless. JoAnn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2004 Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 I am sensitive to the women who need to have implants out and do not have tons of $$. And every time I recommend Dr. Huang you seem to try to dissuade everyone from going to her. She is wonderful and extremely talented. And costs thousands less. I am a social worker, and always for the underdog. And poor women and women without insurance sometimes cannot afford $6000 for explant. Just by what you posted, you did it again. Dr. Feng is great, others are also. No one is THE BEST. That is making a judgment, and we just should not be doing that. We should be open-minded and allow women to make their choices by who is closest, who is least expensive (if that is a factor, and is not for all women) and who is good at what they do. If you think I am sensitive, you just keep pushing that the office supports that website. It is like you have to run it into the ground. Dr. Huang is extremely good, and is kind, helpful and spends much time explaining procedures. She is reasonably priced. If you feel you have to continue bashing her about her office being on some website, then no-one will dissuade you. But you may end up keeping some woman from going to a very good doctor and end up going to someone who does not do it right by trying to scare them off. It is not a good idea. I have seen photos from both, they look identical. Both came and did conferences for me and others who put them on. I refer to both. And I will continue to do so. Hopefully without bashing the other in the process. Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2004 Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 Lynda, I think it behooves us to keep in mind that recommendations for doctors are just that....recommendations. I think it is overly dramatic to state that " she just cannot tolerate anyone sending anyone to any doc but Feng. " We all know ...she's been around a long time and we know how enthusiastic she is for her doctor and for her exercise program. That's just . All I am saying is let's be affirming, not eager to repudiate or refute. Let's be yielding and seek to find common ground rather than being pointedly confrontational. Let's be in agreement where we can, yet ready to agree to disagree with grace. We really do need each other and need to find that common ground because healing is what it is all about, and argumentative posts are not contributory to that end. If further discussion is needed, private posts are preferred. (Thanks!) Patty > Check the message again, and you will find she was definitely putting her > down. She brings up the website that the office has a message on every > time. And it seems that she just cannot tolerate anyone sending anyone to > any doc but Feng. If someone deliberately does this, I think it has to be > confronted. In fact, the person it was being sent to also thought so, and > send a private message to that effect. > > Lynda of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2004 Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 Hope you sent this message to . Lynda At 10:27 AM 5/3/2004, you wrote: >Lynda, >I think it behooves us to keep in mind that recommendations for >doctors are just that....recommendations. I think it is overly >dramatic to state that " she just cannot tolerate anyone sending >anyone to any doc but Feng. " We all know ...she's been around >a long time and we know how enthusiastic she is for her doctor and >for her exercise program. That's just . > >All I am saying is let's be affirming, not eager to repudiate or >refute. Let's be yielding and seek to find common ground rather >than being pointedly confrontational. Let's be in agreement where >we can, yet ready to agree to disagree with grace. > >We really do need each other and need to find that common ground >because healing is what it is all about, and argumentative posts are >not contributory to that end. If further discussion is needed, >private posts are preferred. >(Thanks!) >Patty > > > Check the message again, and you will find she was definitely >putting her > > down. She brings up the website that the office has a message on >every > > time. And it seems that she just cannot tolerate anyone sending >anyone to > > any doc but Feng. If someone deliberately does this, I think it >has to be > > confronted. In fact, the person it was being sent to also thought >so, and > > send a private message to that effect. > > > > Lynda >of Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2004 Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 > > > > >Dr Lu Feng would be my first choice, she is in Cleveland > Ohio, > > > > >other than that there are a handful I would trust. Some of the > > >others > > > > >can help you. In my opinion though, if you want to get a lift > too, > > > > >Feng is the absolute best. > > > > >Hugs > > > > >C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In , " jbbc_2005 " > <jbbc_2005@y...> > > >wrote: > > > > > > I am new to this site. I have learned alot while reading > your > > > > > > stories. I feel like this site is a big group of friends > > >sharing, > > > > > > feeling, fears, love and hope. I would like to be a part of > > >that. > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to get my two year old Saline Implants out and need > > >help. I > > > > > > need to get recommendations of good plastic surgeons to do > my > > > > >explant > > > > > > and possibly treatment afterwards. I am scared, but want > to be > > > > > > around for my two year old. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone give my some recommendations from your own > > >experience. > > > > > > Thank you and God Bless. JoAnn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2004 Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 Sorry, Patty, I don't think I'm getting all the emails fast enough from I just saw this. Sorry I posted on something you asked be a private email thing. - > > At 10:27 AM 5/3/2004, you wrote: > >Lynda, > >I think it behooves us to keep in mind that recommendations for > >doctors are just that....recommendations. I think it is overly > >dramatic to state that " she just cannot tolerate anyone sending > >anyone to any doc but Feng. " We all know ...she's been around > >a long time and we know how enthusiastic she is for her doctor and > >for her exercise program. That's just . > > > >All I am saying is let's be affirming, not eager to repudiate or > >refute. Let's be yielding and seek to find common ground rather > >than being pointedly confrontational. Let's be in agreement where > >we can, yet ready to agree to disagree with grace. > > > >We really do need each other and need to find that common ground > >because healing is what it is all about, and argumentative posts are > >not contributory to that end. If further discussion is needed, > >private posts are preferred. > >(Thanks!) > >Patty > > > > > Check the message again, and you will find she was definitely > >putting her > > > down. She brings up the website that the office has a message on > >every > > > time. And it seems that she just cannot tolerate anyone sending > >anyone to > > > any doc but Feng. If someone deliberately does this, I think it > >has to be > > > confronted. In fact, the person it was being sent to also thought > >so, and > > > send a private message to that effect. > > > > > > Lynda > >of Service. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2004 Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 The area of the country makes a difference in cost. And you just have to realize that some people can be hit in the head and not see that there are many qualified, and she is just one of those who are. We have at least one in TX., one in FL., one in Atlanta, one in San Diego, etc. We refer to all. It is sad that judgments are made without knowing all the facts, and being a social worker, I try to look at all the facts. Some do not. So, you just have to take the controversy with a grain of salt and let it go. I may do my referrals off the group as some would cut any referrals down. That seems counter-productive and hurtful, and I just do not understand it. Lynda At 03:40 PM 5/3/2004, you wrote: > > > > > > >Dr Lu Feng would be my first choice, she is in >Cleveland > > Ohio, > > > > > >other than that there are a handful I would trust. Some of >the > > > >others > > > > > >can help you. In my opinion though, if you want to get a >lift > > too, > > > > > >Feng is the absolute best. > > > > > >Hugs > > > > > >C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In , " jbbc_2005 " > > <jbbc_2005@y...> > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > I am new to this site. I have learned alot while reading > > your > > > > > > > stories. I feel like this site is a big group of friends > > > >sharing, > > > > > > > feeling, fears, love and hope. I would like to be a part >of > > > >that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to get my two year old Saline Implants out and need > > > >help. I > > > > > > > need to get recommendations of good plastic surgeons to >do > > my > > > > > >explant > > > > > > > and possibly treatment afterwards. I am scared, but want > > to be > > > > > > > around for my two year old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone give my some recommendations from your own > > > >experience. > > > > > > > Thank you and God Bless. JoAnn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Lynda there is something def mean spirited in your posts to me and I do not appreciate it or see the point. I mentioned my experience and my outcome as positite things, and being that I was extremely poor and had to borrow the money to get my explant I am certainly not rich and that is not why I went to Dr Feng. I did not say ONE thing prior to the last email regarding Dr Huang good or bad. I will agree that I mentioned her being involved in a site that I and others agree is not very honest. I am still puzzled why Dr Huang wants her name out there on that horrible website. I have a very good friend that used to post here and her photos are on this site, under Dr Huang patient, and she looks fabulous and I agree that she does a good job. She did the same exact type lift on this girl that she did on me and they both look equally awesome. I cannot however, change my feelings they are extremely strong, and passionate, about Dr Feng, because of the wonderful, caring nature she treated me with. I cannot say how any other Dr is and I am not in any way bashing ANY DR ON THIS SITE. SO please stop saying that about me, it is not at all fair. By saying that in MY OPINION DR FENG IS THE BEST, is just that, MY OPINION, it is not bashing anyone or anything, so please please stop trying to make me out to be a bad person, or that I am saying bad things. I do not like the fact that Dr Huang advertises on Implantinfo, and it saddens me that she does so, It makes me question her motives, does she need the money that bad that she needs to advertise for implants? I mean that is a question I think is reasonable to ask if your a potential patient. But if that does not matter to anyone, again, that is their own option. I think that there are probably allot of prices out there even lower than Huang's and that probably do a fine job. I have not recently compared prices since my explant is long behind me now I have not really thought much about that. I mean I can only do so much I am really here to help women with my own experience and story. I do not know much about your surgeon or if it was Huang or why you feel so strongly about her, other than your own opinions regarding her prices or her skill. Again that is your right to feel the way you do regarding her. I have never said anything to you or accused you of bashing my Dr so why do you acuse me of these things? What is it that makes you so mad because I had a great experience with a wonderful Dr other than the fact that you think she is too expensive? If you visit explantation.com the majority of the photos are of Feng patients, not all of them but many of them, and along with that and the help of Ilena Rosenthal and tons of other wonderful women I was guided to Dr Feng and feel she uses really special techniques, being in the medical field I know that she does use really awesome methods to do her surgeries. I am sorry that it upsets you, I don't know what else to say and I dont have any axes to grind with you or Dr Huang, I agree that if your in the Denver area she is a good choice. I have nothing against her. Your putting words in my mouth and I don't appreciate that and am asking that you respect me and stop saying nasty things about me please. I love Dr Feng and in my opinion I still feel she is one of the best without a doubt. To me she is special, maybe because she not only saved my life and helped me get well, but she supported me all the way along, and gave me beautiful shaped perky little breasts that have invisible scars. I feel extremely blessed that I was able to go to her and wish luck to those who are trying to find a surgeon. I would say that Huang is a great option to those in a position to get to her. I never ever would say she is not a good surgeon. Thank you In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > I am sensitive to the women who need to have implants out and do not have > tons of $$. And every time I recommend Dr. Huang you seem to try to > dissuade everyone from going to her. She is wonderful and extremely > talented. And costs thousands less. > > I am a social worker, and always for the underdog. And poor women and > women without insurance sometimes cannot afford $6000 for explant. Just by > what you posted, you did it again. Dr. Feng is great, others are also. No > one is THE BEST. That is making a judgment, and we just should not be > doing that. We should be open-minded and allow women to make their choices > by who is closest, who is least expensive (if that is a factor, and is not > for all women) and who is good at what they do. > > If you think I am sensitive, you just keep pushing that the office supports > that website. It is like you have to run it into the ground. Dr. Huang is > extremely good, and is kind, helpful and spends much time explaining > procedures. She is reasonably priced. > > If you feel you have to continue bashing her about her office being on some > website, then no-one will dissuade you. But you may end up keeping some > woman from going to a very good doctor and end up going to someone who does > not do it right by trying to scare them off. It is not a good idea. > > I have seen photos from both, they look identical. Both came and did > conferences for me and others who put them on. I refer to both. And I > will continue to do so. Hopefully without bashing the other in the process. > > Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Lynda you seem to have a personal problem with me. I don't know what I have ever done to you, but please if you have a problem with me email me, don't broadcast it here. It is really mean. I love my Dr for giving me back my life, but there are other Drs that are good. I never EVER said anything, NOT ONE BAD THING ABOUT DR HUANG SURGICAL SKILLS EVER. You have really hurt my feelings and made me feel really like crap and I hope that makes you think about what your motives are. I am sorry you think I am such a terrible person because I love my PS, for saving my life. In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > Hope you sent this message to . > > Lynda > > At 10:27 AM 5/3/2004, you wrote: > >Lynda, > >I think it behooves us to keep in mind that recommendations for > >doctors are just that....recommendations. I think it is overly > >dramatic to state that " she just cannot tolerate anyone sending > >anyone to any doc but Feng. " We all know ...she's been around > >a long time and we know how enthusiastic she is for her doctor and > >for her exercise program. That's just . > > > >All I am saying is let's be affirming, not eager to repudiate or > >refute. Let's be yielding and seek to find common ground rather > >than being pointedly confrontational. Let's be in agreement where > >we can, yet ready to agree to disagree with grace. > > > >We really do need each other and need to find that common ground > >because healing is what it is all about, and argumentative posts are > >not contributory to that end. If further discussion is needed, > >private posts are preferred. > >(Thanks!) > >Patty > > > > > Check the message again, and you will find she was definitely > >putting her > > > down. She brings up the website that the office has a message on > >every > > > time. And it seems that she just cannot tolerate anyone sending > >anyone to > > > any doc but Feng. If someone deliberately does this, I think it > >has to be > > > confronted. In fact, the person it was being sent to also thought > >so, and > > > send a private message to that effect. > > > > > > Lynda > >of Service. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 I am not posting to you. And I thought all the posts were off line. If you would just not create a stir when someone recommends a doctor, none of this would ever happen. There are more than one capable and excellent plastic surgeons. I am just not going to read any of your posts unless you have something positive to say. Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Lynda my post was very very positive, just not about any other Dr than the one I went to because being a patient and working in a hospital I dont feel very comfortable recomending anyone I have not gone to. That is just my professional opinion. I know women who have been to all different PS's on this group and else where and have had good and bad experiences. I feel it is only fair for me to speak of my experience with my ps. That does not mean I am knocking anyone else. I have repeatedly said that I think Dr Huang is a very good option for many woman, as is Mehlmed, Kolb, Darrow, Lee, etc. They all have been mentioned as good PS's. My personal experience with Dr Feng is all I can really speak about. I am sorry if you feel that is negative or bashing. I feel it is just being honest. In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > I am not posting to you. And I thought all the posts were off line. > > If you would just not create a stir when someone recommends a doctor, none > of this would ever happen. > > There are more than one capable and excellent plastic surgeons. > > I am just not going to read any of your posts unless you have something > positive to say. > > Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 - Lynda I just want to say that all doctors can have less than great results. I went to Dr. Feng and was not happy with the way things turned out. I was very flat and she said that I didn't need a lift or anything other than explant. It turned out that my skin was too stretched and now I have saggy skin (like little bags) beneath where my real breasts end. I was disappointed as she showed me pics of how she said I would probably look and it didn't happen. I will probably return someday to see what can be done to make this look better but that doesn't alter the fact that now I will need an additional surgery to correct this (if surgery will make it look better and I am pretty sure it will). So for me, I can't say that Dr. Feng is the best. However, she seems to be really good and I would certainly never discourage anyone from going to her. She is very competent and I am sure that she did an excellent job on explantation. But I was definitely not pleased with my results cosmetically. , you were very upset when I mentioned this a couple of years ago because you said that might dissuade someone from getting explantation or using Dr. Feng. I apologised to you via email and haven't mentioned anything since. But I feel in all fairness when you say that she is the best and the only one you will recommend, that I should point out that she is only human and has her less than shining moments also. I have no problem recommending her to others and have never discouraged anyone from going to her because I am sure she is very good even if in my case she made an error in judgement about not needing anything done. But how can you say that she is the absolute best and better than Dr.Huang since you are aware of the problem I had with my cosmetic result? Certainly I have no problem with you saying that she did a terrific job on you-- and others, but insisting that she is the best is subjective at best. As lynda pointed out, there are many competent surgeons that are recomended on this site. I am only saying this now because I have been quiet a very long time on this subject and each time that Dr. Feng has been touted as the undisputed best, I felt a little twinge inside because I didn't have the wonderful experience that you did and yet was soundly chastised for mentioning it. I think we need to be aware that sometimes doctors do really good work, and sometimes it is less than spectacular. I hope someday to have the money and time to return and see if maybe I can't be the one to receive the spectacular results next time. Then maybe I won't be embarrassed to post my pics on this website. I hope this doesn't cause any controversy, I just needed to get this off my chest because I just don't think it was fair to ask me to be silent about my experience with Dr. Feng and yet everyone else is allowed to talk about their experiences. Please don't be angry with me. I just need to set the record straight from my own experience. Blessings, kathy -- In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > I am sensitive to the women who need to have implants out and do not have > tons of $$. And every time I recommend Dr. Huang you seem to try to > dissuade everyone from going to her. She is wonderful and extremely > talented. And costs thousands less. > > I am a social worker, and always for the underdog. And poor women and > women without insurance sometimes cannot afford $6000 for explant. Just by > what you posted, you did it again. Dr. Feng is great, others are also. No > one is THE BEST. That is making a judgment, and we just should not be > doing that. We should be open-minded and allow women to make their choices > by who is closest, who is least expensive (if that is a factor, and is not > for all women) and who is good at what they do. > > If you think I am sensitive, you just keep pushing that the office supports > that website. It is like you have to run it into the ground. Dr. Huang is > extremely good, and is kind, helpful and spends much time explaining > procedures. She is reasonably priced. > > If you feel you have to continue bashing her about her office being on some > website, then no-one will dissuade you. But you may end up keeping some > woman from going to a very good doctor and end up going to someone who does > not do it right by trying to scare them off. It is not a good idea. > > I have seen photos from both, they look identical. Both came and did > conferences for me and others who put them on. I refer to both. And I > will continue to do so. Hopefully without bashing the other in the process. > > Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Yes, you are the second woman who has told me this. Nobody is perfect, that is for sure. But I do believe that her heart is in the right place and that she truly wants to help us get better if we are ill. It is a shame that she and all the others still put implants in also. But, they are plastic surgeons, and there is a lot of call for that. It is not me that said she is the only one I recommend (that was ), as I recommend at least 6 ps to women, depending on where they live. I truly love Dr. Huang, as she did surgery on my daughter and she has helped women with Medicaid and worked with insurance companies to help get removal covered. She is just a wonderful person. I have referred many women to Dr. Feng and they have been quite happy with the results. I suppose there will always be women who are not happy with their results. It is inevitable if you do a lot of these surgeries. Lynda At 07:01 PM 5/4/2004, you wrote: >- >Lynda >I just want to say that all doctors can have less than great >results. I went to Dr. Feng and was not happy with the way things >turned out. I was very flat and she said that I didn't need a lift >or anything other than explant. It turned out that my skin was too >stretched and now I have saggy skin (like little bags) beneath where >my real breasts end. I was disappointed as she showed me pics of >how she said I would probably look and it didn't happen. I will >probably return someday to see what can be done to make this look >better but that doesn't alter the fact that now I will need an >additional surgery to correct this (if surgery will make it look >better and I am pretty sure it will). So for me, I can't say that >Dr. Feng is the best. However, she seems to be really good and I >would certainly never discourage anyone from going to her. She is >very competent and I am sure that she did an excellent job on >explantation. But I was definitely not pleased with my results >cosmetically. , you were very upset when I mentioned this a >couple of years ago because you said that might dissuade someone >from getting explantation or using Dr. Feng. I apologised to you >via email and haven't mentioned anything since. But I feel in all >fairness when you say that she is the best and the only one you will >recommend, that I should point out that she is only human and has >her less than shining moments also. I have no problem recommending >her to others and have never discouraged anyone from going to her >because I am sure she is very good even if in my case she made an >error in judgement about not needing anything done. But how can you >say that she is the absolute best and better than Dr.Huang since you >are aware of the problem I had with my cosmetic result? Certainly I >have no problem with you saying that she did a terrific job on you-- >and others, but insisting that she is the best is subjective at >best. As lynda pointed out, there are many >competent surgeons that are recomended on this site. >I am only saying this now because I have been quiet a very long time >on this subject and each time that Dr. Feng has been touted as the >undisputed best, I felt a little twinge inside because I didn't have >the wonderful experience that you did and yet was soundly chastised >for mentioning it. I think we need to be aware that sometimes >doctors do really good work, and sometimes it is less than >spectacular. I hope someday to have the money and time to return >and see if maybe I can't be the one to receive the spectacular >results next time. Then maybe I won't be embarrassed to post my >pics on this website. I hope this doesn't cause any controversy, I >just needed to get this off my chest because I just don't think it >was fair to ask me to be silent about my experience with Dr. Feng >and yet everyone else is allowed to talk about their experiences. >Please don't be angry with me. I just need to >set the record straight from my own experience. >Blessings, kathy > > > > > > > >-- In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > > I am sensitive to the women who need to have implants out and do >not have > > tons of $$. And every time I recommend Dr. Huang you seem to try >to > > dissuade everyone from going to her. She is wonderful and >extremely > > talented. And costs thousands less. > > > > I am a social worker, and always for the underdog. And poor women >and > > women without insurance sometimes cannot afford $6000 for >explant. Just by > > what you posted, you did it again. Dr. Feng is great, others are >also. No > > one is THE BEST. That is making a judgment, and we just should >not be > > doing that. We should be open-minded and allow women to make >their choices > > by who is closest, who is least expensive (if that is a factor, >and is not > > for all women) and who is good at what they do. > > > > If you think I am sensitive, you just keep pushing that the office >supports > > that website. It is like you have to run it into the ground. Dr. >Huang is > > extremely good, and is kind, helpful and spends much time >explaining > > procedures. She is reasonably priced. > > > > If you feel you have to continue bashing her about her office >being on some > > website, then no-one will dissuade you. But you may end up >keeping some > > woman from going to a very good doctor and end up going to someone >who does > > not do it right by trying to scare them off. It is not a good >idea. > > > > I have seen photos from both, they look identical. Both came and >did > > conferences for me and others who put them on. I refer to both. >And I > > will continue to do so. Hopefully without bashing the other in >the process. > > > > Lynda > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 > > I am sensitive to the women who need to have implants out and do > not have > > tons of $$. And every time I recommend Dr. Huang you seem to try > to > > dissuade everyone from going to her. She is wonderful and > extremely > > talented. And costs thousands less. > > > > I am a social worker, and always for the underdog. And poor women > and > > women without insurance sometimes cannot afford $6000 for > explant. Just by > > what you posted, you did it again. Dr. Feng is great, others are > also. No > > one is THE BEST. That is making a judgment, and we just should > not be > > doing that. We should be open-minded and allow women to make > their choices > > by who is closest, who is least expensive (if that is a factor, > and is not > > for all women) and who is good at what they do. > > > > If you think I am sensitive, you just keep pushing that the office > supports > > that website. It is like you have to run it into the ground. Dr. > Huang is > > extremely good, and is kind, helpful and spends much time > explaining > > procedures. She is reasonably priced. > > > > If you feel you have to continue bashing her about her office > being on some > > website, then no-one will dissuade you. But you may end up > keeping some > > woman from going to a very good doctor and end up going to someone > who does > > not do it right by trying to scare them off. It is not a good > idea. > > > > I have seen photos from both, they look identical. Both came and > did > > conferences for me and others who put them on. I refer to both. > And I > > will continue to do so. Hopefully without bashing the other in > the process. > > > > Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Since you did not get a lift ( i don't understand exactly why she did not do one but I thought you said you told her you did not want one) maybe I am confused, however I agree that even the best plastic surgeon is not infalable. I ALSO NEVER SAID ANYWHERE AND YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL MY POSTS I NEVER EVER SAID DR FENG IS BETTER THAN HUANG never said it, and frankly am tired of being quoted saying something I never said. MY OWN WORDS WERE TO ME IN MY OPINION DR FENG IS THE BEST. That is still my opinion based on my experience and the others that I know who have been to her. She is not perfect, but she sure made my boobs look good. Can I please ASK PEOPLE TO STOP SAYING THAT I SAID THINGS I NEVER EVER SAID? it is really growing tiresome. I am sorry if that is how my post came off, but once more I NEVER SAID SHE IS BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE, just that to me, she is the best, based on the amount of other peoples experience, combined with MY EXPERIENCE. Others may not like what she does. I cannot speak for your situation and I am sorry that you did not like the way your surgery came out. I did encourage you to inquire to her, along time ago, regarding a lift, which is what it sounds like may be your issue, though again I DO NOT KNOW, i can only state my experience. For this I have taken allot of heat on here, I tried my best to stay cool, be sorry etc, but apparently I am going to contine to be chastised because I had a great experience with a wonderful Dr. I have heard unhappy patients from almost every Dr on our list, and allot of happy ones too. No one is perfect and your absolutley right to be upset if your unhappy with your sagging breast tissue. My question again, is why you never spoke with her esp sooner, about this issue. I feel if it was somthing that bothered me I would have been on the phone immediately and asked her what the deal was and why I did not come out the way I was told I would. Then I would address the issue and find a way to make it right. You mention a second procedure, allot of us did in fact have 2 procedures, only they were done at one time. Had I not gotten a lift I know I would look scary right now, so yeah I usually really stress to explant seekers, to get a lift. I know allot of women opt not too, and if Dr Feng thought you would not need one, but in fact you do, I can't help but feel she would have been willing to make this situation right if you had spoken with her about it, maybe I am wrong. I really have tried HARD to convey that i am only sharing my feelings, my opinion, my experience, I have posted photos to show my surgical results and maybe others don't think they are that great, to me they are and as a result of that and of how I have gotten my health back, I feel Dr Feng is the only surgeon I would personally have gone to had I had to do it all again. I went in already knowing I wanted and needed a lift, so there was no question or if's about it. Again Kathy I really feel bad that you seem anrgy about my sharing my opinions. I really was praying so much that there would be no more accusations against me, and again and again I am sorry that I said something so terrible as to recomend my surgeon and say she was the best I still feel that she is the best, based on several things, amount of people I know who went to her and are happy and the photos I have seen, and my experience. I am glad that you are able to share a negative aspect because it does happen with all the ps's I have ever heard of there is at least one unhappy person. on the other hand if you don't try to talk to her to see what she thinks or is willing to comprimise or work a solution, then that is your choice, but living with less than optimal results, is not something you have to do. I would not do it. I would have tried to get her to fix me if she had messed me up. I am sorry Kathy, if you feel that you need to place blame on me, that is ok, I mean that is the risk I run by recomending any surgeon, which is A BIG reason I don't recomend anyone other than the one I went to. AND EVEN THEN things may not be perfect. I also think that I said Fengs lifts were superior in my opinion, but the girl who posted her lift by Dr Huang had awesome results too, so hey, maybe she does amazing work also, again, I never ever questioned her surgical skills. EVER. So it is hurtful to be continually raked over the coals for recomending my Dr. I am sorry once again. I really am. In , " mikat828 " <mikat828@y...> wrote: > - > Lynda > I just want to say that all doctors can have less than great > results. I went to Dr. Feng and was not happy with the way things > turned out. I was very flat and she said that I didn't need a lift > or anything other than explant. It turned out that my skin was too > stretched and now I have saggy skin (like little bags) beneath where > my real breasts end. I was disappointed as she showed me pics of > how she said I would probably look and it didn't happen. I will > probably return someday to see what can be done to make this look > better but that doesn't alter the fact that now I will need an > additional surgery to correct this (if surgery will make it look > better and I am pretty sure it will). So for me, I can't say that > Dr. Feng is the best. However, she seems to be really good and I > would certainly never discourage anyone from going to her. She is > very competent and I am sure that she did an excellent job on > explantation. But I was definitely not pleased with my results > cosmetically. , you were very upset when I mentioned this a > couple of years ago because you said that might dissuade someone > from getting explantation or using Dr. Feng. I apologised to you > via email and haven't mentioned anything since. But I feel in all > fairness when you say that she is the best and the only one you will > recommend, that I should point out that she is only human and has > her less than shining moments also. I have no problem recommending > her to others and have never discouraged anyone from going to her > because I am sure she is very good even if in my case she made an > error in judgement about not needing anything done. But how can you > say that she is the absolute best and better than Dr.Huang since you > are aware of the problem I had with my cosmetic result? Certainly I > have no problem with you saying that she did a terrific job on you-- > and others, but insisting that she is the best is subjective at > best. As lynda pointed out, there are many > competent surgeons that are recomended on this site. > I am only saying this now because I have been quiet a very long time > on this subject and each time that Dr. Feng has been touted as the > undisputed best, I felt a little twinge inside because I didn't have > the wonderful experience that you did and yet was soundly chastised > for mentioning it. I think we need to be aware that sometimes > doctors do really good work, and sometimes it is less than > spectacular. I hope someday to have the money and time to return > and see if maybe I can't be the one to receive the spectacular > results next time. Then maybe I won't be embarrassed to post my > pics on this website. I hope this doesn't cause any controversy, I > just needed to get this off my chest because I just don't think it > was fair to ask me to be silent about my experience with Dr. Feng > and yet everyone else is allowed to talk about their experiences. > Please don't be angry with me. I just need to > set the record straight from my own experience. > Blessings, kathy > > > > > > > > -- In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > > I am sensitive to the women who need to have implants out and do > not have > > tons of $$. And every time I recommend Dr. Huang you seem to try > to > > dissuade everyone from going to her. She is wonderful and > extremely > > talented. And costs thousands less. > > > > I am a social worker, and always for the underdog. And poor women > and > > women without insurance sometimes cannot afford $6000 for > explant. Just by > > what you posted, you did it again. Dr. Feng is great, others are > also. No > > one is THE BEST. That is making a judgment, and we just should > not be > > doing that. We should be open-minded and allow women to make > their choices > > by who is closest, who is least expensive (if that is a factor, > and is not > > for all women) and who is good at what they do. > > > > If you think I am sensitive, you just keep pushing that the office > supports > > that website. It is like you have to run it into the ground. Dr. > Huang is > > extremely good, and is kind, helpful and spends much time > explaining > > procedures. She is reasonably priced. > > > > If you feel you have to continue bashing her about her office > being on some > > website, then no-one will dissuade you. But you may end up > keeping some > > woman from going to a very good doctor and end up going to someone > who does > > not do it right by trying to scare them off. It is not a good > idea. > > > > I have seen photos from both, they look identical. Both came and > did > > conferences for me and others who put them on. I refer to both. > And I > > will continue to do so. Hopefully without bashing the other in > the process. > > > > Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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