Re: Just wanted to share...

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>

>Why the heck would the doctor want to pair them up???

they do it all the time - get them while they have a captive audience

I think they think the girls are more concerned with the HPV vax and

not so much with meningitis, so give em both while they have them.

>Anyway, fingers crossed that I don't get some how dare you phone

>call from her Dad (who works for Big Pharma nonetheless) I hope that

>giving her a little info will do something. Obviously, I am not

>going to change his mind about vaccines, but if they don't do that

>third Gardasil or at least don't put it together with Menactra, that

>is something, right?

it is terrifying - some on the hpv list I'm on had both

>Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to share

>because after she left, I had (and still have) such a heavy heart

>about it.

Yes, I'd have a heavy heart too. So glad you did what you did and

tried! I hope it helps

Sheri

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

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I'm sure you got the girl thinking. You can bet if she goes to the doc for the

shot she'll be remembering what you said. If the dad gives the how dare you

speech, I would ask if he was aware that her arm went numb for three days, and

doesn't that concern him?

Winnie

Just wanted to share...

Vaccinations

> My husband's 13 year old cousin, came over to babysit the

> other night and brought her school friend. We got on the subject

> of

> vaccines. is against them now (we have had MANY

> discussions)

> but her friend starts rattling off ALL the shots she has had

> currently and that she used the get the flu shot EVERY year,

> etc.

> She sounded like a walking human experiment. She is such a

> bubbly,

> energetic, beautiful little girl and she says, " I have had two

> of

> the three Gardasil shots. " I must have had a horrified look on

> my

> face because says about me " She knows a lot out vaccines,

> you

> should talk to her, they aren't safe. "

>

> I started talking about it a bit and I could tell it was kind of

> going over her head. I told her more about the dangers of

> Gardasil

> and she said I know that a couple of girls have died and I said

> no I

> think it is about one girl a month (I could be wrong on that).

> She

> said, that shot really hurt. I said what do you mean, just

> getting

> the actual shot itself and she said, no, my arm tingled and then

> went numb for three days. I couldn't even move it or lift it and

> the

> nurse must have done the shot wrong because I had a lot of pain

> and

> a huge bruise where she gave the shot.

>

> After talking more I found out her Dad works for Big Pharma. He

> is

> involved in making some HIV vaccine right now that " makes you

> live

> longer with the disease. " She says that for the third Gardisil

> her

> doctor says she should also have the Menactra at the same time.

> I

> got online really quick and printed a couple of things for her.

> One

> article from the NVIC that I gave her states: " NVIC's

> comparative

> analysis of those two categories of VAERS reports indicates that

> when Gardasil was given simultaneously with Menactra rather than

> alone, there was a statistically significant increased risk of

> reported adverse events:

>

> respiratory problem reports increased by 114 percent;

> cardiac problems reports increased by 118 percent;

> neuromuscular and coordination problem reports increased by 234

> percent;

> convulsions and central nervous system problem reports increased

> by

> 301 percent;

> reports of injuries from falls after unconsciousness increased

> by

> 674 percent; and

> GBS reports increased by 1,130 percent. "

>

> Why the heck would the doctor want to pair them up???

>

> Anyway, fingers crossed that I don't get some how dare you phone

> call from her Dad (who works for Big Pharma nonetheless) I hope

> that

> giving her a little info will do something. Obviously, I am not

> going to change his mind about vaccines, but if they don't do

> that

> third Gardasil or at least don't put it together with Menactra,

> that

> is something, right? Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to

> share

> because after she left, I had (and still have) such a heavy heart

> about it.

>

>

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I know how you feel....

so glad that you were able to get thru to someone!

Holly

p.s. when do you wanna get together? I keep meaning to see what you are up to...

In a message dated 10/31/2009 2:39:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jaime_thompson06@... writes:

it seems like I stand alone a lot

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Great. This will motivate you to keeping trying.

Jim

Anti vaccination league of America

From: jaime_thompson06 <jaime_thompson06@...>Vaccinations Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 1:39:36 PMSubject: just wanted to share...

some good news: My friend that has been very paranoid about the swine flu and had been asking me for information had scheduled an appt for her 2 yr old and herself to get the vaccine yesterday. She text me thurs night and told me to convince her not to do it. So, I gave her the same info I had been...and to be honest, I was kind of annoyed that she was still debating it, because in my mind, that told me she had not been reading anything I had sent her. I even sent her the package inserts. Anyways, I used the mercury thermometer as an example, how we are told not to touch it if it breaks, and that there was more mercury in the shot she was about to have injected into her son.Well, I didn't get much sleep the past couple of nights, because I really thought I had failed. She didn't say what she was going to do. Well, I called her this morning, and she told me she had cancelled the appt!! She said that the example of the thermometer was her "ah-ha"

moment, and that it just clicked what she was about to do. I wanted to do cartwheels when I got off the phone, I was so happy! Finally, I got through to someone...it seems like I stand alone a lot, so it was nice to know that someone finally listened. ~

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That is amazing. I am so thankful. By the way there is this great video by the EPA telling kids not to touch mercury. It is for science teachers to show in middle schools. I love it. It brings the whole point home. Even for me when I start to think maybe I am just crazy. LOLFrom: Jim O <jimokelly@...>Vaccinations Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 12:58:26 PMSubject: Re: just wanted to share...

Great. This will motivate you to keeping trying.

Jim

Anti vaccination league of America

From: jaime_thompson06 <jaime_thompson06>VaccinationsSent: Sat, October 31, 2009 1:39:36 PMSubject: just wanted to share...

some good news: My friend that has been very paranoid about the swine flu and had been asking me for information had scheduled an appt for her 2 yr old and herself to get the vaccine yesterday. She text me thurs night and told me to convince her not to do it. So, I gave her the same info I had been...and to be honest, I was kind of annoyed that she was still debating it, because in my mind, that told me she had not been reading anything I had sent her. I even sent her the package inserts. Anyways, I used the mercury thermometer as an example, how we are told not to touch it if it breaks, and that there was more mercury in the shot she was about to have injected into her son.Well, I didn't get much sleep the past couple of nights, because I really thought I had failed. She didn't say what she was going to do. Well, I called her this morning, and she told me she had cancelled the appt!! She said that the example of the thermometer was her "ah-ha"

moment, and that it just clicked what she was about to do. I wanted to do cartwheels when I got off the phone, I was so happy! Finally, I got through to someone...it seems like I stand alone a lot, so it was nice to know that someone finally listened. ~

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Great news! We should all file this one away--people respond to the thermometer example. Use it as often as possible.

Winnie just wanted to share...Vaccinations > some good news: My friend that has been very paranoid about > the swine flu and had been asking me for information had > scheduled an appt for her 2 yr old and herself to get the > vaccine yesterday. She text me thurs night and told me to > convince her not to do it. So, I gave her the same info I had > been...and to be honest, I was kind of annoyed that she was > still debating it, because in my mind, that told me she had not > been reading anything I had sent her. I even sent her the > package inserts. Anyways, I used the mercury thermometer as an > example, how we are told not to touch it if it breaks, and that > there was more mercury in the shot she was about to have > injected into her son.Well, I didn't get much sleep the past > couple of nights, because I really thought I had failed. She > didn't say what she was going to do. Well, I called her this > morning, and she told me she had cancelled the appt!! She said > that the example of the thermometer was her "ah-ha" moment, and > that it just clicked what she was about to do. I wanted to do > cartwheels when I got off the phone, I was so happy! Finally, I > got through to someone...it seems like I stand alone a lot, so > it was nice to know that someone finally listened. > > ~> >