Was it Roseola? (aka why no vax for roseola)

[Guest guest]

Sheri

It began with behavioral changes such as not napping, not wanting to

be put down, and definitely not wanting to be away from mom at all. He

wanted me to hold him all the time, which is very unlike him. That

moodiness lasted about six days. When I say moody, I mean crying...I

literally had him in the bathroom with me and needed to set him on the

floor so I could use the toilet (TMI-I know) and he was bawling

because I put him down. His eyes also looked red and swollen, not from

crying though. On day 7 the fever hit. About 4 in the afternoon, he

became very fussy and his fever hit 103F...He also threw up. His

appetite was gone (he still nurses frequently but also eats

solids--organic, balanced food), though he did continue to nurse A LOT

(thank goodness). The up and down fever lasted four days, during which

he remained extremely fussy, the whites of his eyes looked

bloodshot-though that happened after he threw up, so I don't know if

it was from the force- but his lids were a bit puffy. The day after

the fever left, there was a slight rash, looking like prickly heat

rather than the online pics of roseola rash. It began around the

diaper area and spread upward. His face had a few red dots, but not

many. In three or four days, that was gone, though I see that he still

has a few bumps that are no longer red, just flesh colored. Again,

very small bumps...So maybe not roseola?

Susie

[Guest guest]

Wow--long time between when crankiness began and fever started. Odd that it

started in the diaper area. Food related? Any new foods introduced? That

shouldn't cause a fever but...how were his poops?

Good thing you're nursing him. That's the best medicine.

Winnie

Was it Roseola? (aka why no vax for roseola)

Vaccinations

> Sheri

> It began with behavioral changes such as not napping, not

> wanting to

> be put down, and definitely not wanting to be away from mom at

> all. He

> wanted me to hold him all the time, which is very unlike him. That

> moodiness lasted about six days. When I say moody, I mean crying...I

> literally had him in the bathroom with me and needed to set him

> on the

> floor so I could use the toilet (TMI-I know) and he was bawling

> because I put him down. His eyes also looked red and swollen,

> not from

> crying though. On day 7 the fever hit. About 4 in the afternoon, he

> became very fussy and his fever hit 103F...He also threw up. His

> appetite was gone (he still nurses frequently but also eats

> solids--organic, balanced food), though he did continue to nurse

> A LOT

> (thank goodness). The up and down fever lasted four days, during which

> he remained extremely fussy, the whites of his eyes looked

> bloodshot-though that happened after he threw up, so I don't

> know if

> it was from the force- but his lids were a bit puffy. The day after

> the fever left, there was a slight rash, looking like prickly heat

> rather than the online pics of roseola rash. It began around the

> diaper area and spread upward. His face had a few red dots, but not

> many. In three or four days, that was gone, though I see that he still

> has a few bumps that are no longer red, just flesh colored. Again,

> very small bumps...So maybe not roseola?

> Susie

>

>

[Guest guest]

No new foods.. Poop was normal. It was really strange. I stay home with him, and

we have our little routines and this all was quite a shock . I know how he is

when teething and how he behaves with colds- usually sleeps tons. This was way

out of the ordinary...

Susie

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On Sep 23, 2008, at 7:56 PM, wharrison@... wrote:

Wow--long time between when crankiness began and fever started. Odd that it

started in the diaper area. Food related? Any new foods introduced? That

shouldn't cause a fever but...how were his poops?

Good thing you're nursing him. That's the best medicine.

Winnie

Was it Roseola? (aka why no vax for roseola)

Vaccinations

Sheri

It began with behavioral changes such as not napping, not

wanting to

be put down, and definitely not wanting to be away from mom at

all. He

wanted me to hold him all the time, which is very unlike him. That

moodiness lasted about six days. When I say moody, I mean crying...I

literally had him in the bathroom with me and needed to set him

on the

floor so I could use the toilet (TMI-I know) and he was bawling

because I put him down. His eyes also looked red and swollen,

not from

crying though. On day 7 the fever hit. About 4 in the afternoon, he

became very fussy and his fever hit 103F...He also threw up. His

appetite was gone (he still nurses frequently but also eats

solids--organic, balanced food), though he did continue to nurse

A LOT

(thank goodness). The up and down fever lasted four days, during which

he remained extremely fussy, the whites of his eyes looked

bloodshot-though that happened after he threw up, so I don't

know if

it was from the force- but his lids were a bit puffy. The day after

the fever left, there was a slight rash, looking like prickly heat

rather than the online pics of roseola rash. It began around the

diaper area and spread upward. His face had a few red dots, but not

many. In three or four days, that was gone, though I see that he still

has a few bumps that are no longer red, just flesh colored. Again,

very small bumps...So maybe not roseola?

Susie

[Guest guest]

You sound very in tune to him. Be sure to keep a record of your observations. It

might come in handy down the road. Here's some interesting info on

roseola--first fever, then rash. That sounds like what your son had:

" Roseola is distinguished by the way in which the symptoms appear. In the first

phase the child develops a high fever -- temperatures may reach 104-105 F

(40-40.5). Febrile seizures are relatively common (about 1 in 10 patients) with

roseola because of the high temperature, but the virus does not seem to cause

seizures directly.

In the second phase, a red rash with bumps appears. The hallmark of roseola is

that the rash appears after the fever goes away, although occasionally the rash

may start while the child is still febrile or may not appear until a little

while after the fever breaks. "

Winnie

Was it Roseola? (aka why no vax for roseola)

> Vaccinations

>

> Sheri

> It began with behavioral changes such as not napping, not

> wanting to

> be put down, and definitely not wanting to be away from mom at

> all. He

> wanted me to hold him all the time, which is very unlike him. That

> moodiness lasted about six days. When I say moody, I mean crying...I

> literally had him in the bathroom with me and needed to set him

> on the

> floor so I could use the toilet (TMI-I know) and he was bawling

> because I put him down. His eyes also looked red and swollen,

> not from

> crying though. On day 7 the fever hit. About 4 in the afternoon, he

> became very fussy and his fever hit 103F...He also threw up. His

> appetite was gone (he still nurses frequently but also eats

> solids--organic, balanced food), though he did continue to nurse

> A LOT

> (thank goodness). The up and down fever lasted four days, during which

> he remained extremely fussy, the whites of his eyes looked

> bloodshot-though that happened after he threw up, so I don't

> know if

> it was from the force- but his lids were a bit puffy. The day after

> the fever left, there was a slight rash, looking like prickly heat

> rather than the online pics of roseola rash. It began around the

> diaper area and spread upward. His face had a few red dots, but not

> many. In three or four days, that was gone, though I see that he still

> has a few bumps that are no longer red, just flesh colored. Again,

> very small bumps...So maybe not roseola?

> Susie

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Sheri

> It began with behavioral changes such as not napping, not wanting to

> be put down, and definitely not wanting to be away from mom at all.

He

> wanted me to hold him all the time, which is very unlike him. That

> moodiness lasted about six days. When I say moody, I mean crying...I

> literally had him in the bathroom with me and needed to set him on

the

> floor so I could use the toilet (TMI-I know) and he was bawling

> because I put him down. His eyes also looked red and swollen, not

from

> crying though. On day 7 the fever hit. About 4 in the afternoon, he

> became very fussy and his fever hit 103F...He also threw up. His

> appetite was gone (he still nurses frequently but also eats

> solids--organic, balanced food), though he did continue to nurse A

LOT

> (thank goodness). The up and down fever lasted four days, during

which

> he remained extremely fussy, the whites of his eyes looked

> bloodshot-though that happened after he threw up, so I don't know if

> it was from the force- but his lids were a bit puffy. The day after

> the fever left, there was a slight rash, looking like prickly heat

> rather than the online pics of roseola rash. It began around the

> diaper area and spread upward. His face had a few red dots, but not

> many. In three or four days, that was gone, though I see that he

still

> has a few bumps that are no longer red, just flesh colored. Again,

> very small bumps...So maybe not roseola?

> Susie

>

You actually just described measles.

Katarina

[Guest guest]

What's the difference between measles and roseola? They sound awfully lot alike.

Maybe the spots in the mouth and the sensitive eyes for measles?

Winnie

Re: Was it Roseola? (aka why no vax for roseola)

Vaccinations

>

> >

> > Sheri

> > It began with behavioral changes such as not napping, not

> wanting to

> > be put down, and definitely not wanting to be away from mom at

> all.

> He

> > wanted me to hold him all the time, which is very unlike him. That

> > moodiness lasted about six days. When I say moody, I mean crying...I

> > literally had him in the bathroom with me and needed to set

> him on

> the

> > floor so I could use the toilet (TMI-I know) and he was bawling

> > because I put him down. His eyes also looked red and swollen,

> not

> from

> > crying though. On day 7 the fever hit. About 4 in the

> afternoon, he

> > became very fussy and his fever hit 103F...He also threw up. His

> > appetite was gone (he still nurses frequently but also eats

> > solids--organic, balanced food), though he did continue to

> nurse A

> LOT

> > (thank goodness). The up and down fever lasted four days,

> during

> which

> > he remained extremely fussy, the whites of his eyes looked

> > bloodshot-though that happened after he threw up, so I don't

> know if

> > it was from the force- but his lids were a bit puffy. The day after

> > the fever left, there was a slight rash, looking like prickly heat

> > rather than the online pics of roseola rash. It began around the

> > diaper area and spread upward. His face had a few red dots,

> but not

> > many. In three or four days, that was gone, though I see that

> he

> still

> > has a few bumps that are no longer red, just flesh colored. Again,

> > very small bumps...So maybe not roseola?

> > Susie

> >

> You actually just described measles.

>

> Katarina

>

>

[Guest guest]

That's it. Roseola seems to be just the fever, then rash when fever breaks

abruptly. Also roseola is over much more quickly, Kids seem to return to almost

normal activity when the fever is gone..

From: wharrison@... <wharrison@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Was it Roseola? (aka why no vax for roseola)

Vaccinations

Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 9:34 PM

What's the difference between measles and roseola? They sound awfully lot alike.

Maybe the spots in the mouth and the sensitive eyes for measles?

Winnie

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[Guest guest]

I strongly believe my son had roseola at 12 months. He just all of a

sudden went from normal to very high fever and was very tired, no other

symptoms at all. He just layed in bed all day and occasionally sat up

to play. Would only drink juice, he would not drink milk so I gave him

juice to stay hydrated (now I know this is a good thing, we should fast

during a fever, only juice or water.) After like exactly 24 hours he

threw up...a lot...and sudenly his fever disappeared. For a few days

afterwards he was kind of groggy and was having difficulty walking and

playing. Then he got this pink, swirly, flat rash all over his torso

only. Within a few hours it was gone and he was completely 100% back

to normal.

Roseola, german measles, and measles, and parvo used to be grouped in

the same categories and most doctors could not and still cannot tell

the difference. So maybe, it could have been parvo what your baby had?

>

> You sound very in tune to him. Be sure to keep a record of your

observations. It might come in handy down the road. Here's some

interesting info on roseola--first fever, then rash. That sounds like

what your son had:

> " Roseola is distinguished by the way in which the symptoms appear. In

the first phase the child develops a high fever -- temperatures may

reach 104-105 F (40-40.5). Febrile seizures are relatively common

(about 1 in 10 patients) with roseola because of the high temperature,

but the virus does not seem to cause seizures directly.

> In the second phase, a red rash with bumps appears. The hallmark of

roseola is that the rash appears after the fever goes away, although

occasionally the rash may start while the child is still febrile or may

not appear until a little while after the fever breaks. "

> Winnie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Susie,

My infant just got over Roseola about a month and a half ago. Roseola

usually starts with a very high fever 103. and up for about 3-4 days,

possible seizures can happen. Then out of no where the fever suddenly

goes away and the rash starts, at first it was just around his arms

and face and then it took over his whole body. It lasted about a week

and then it went away, but then the rash came back for about 3 days.

The doctors at the hospital said it was normal for the rash to come a

go for weeks sometimes after Roseola.

>

> Sheri

> It began with behavioral changes such as not napping, not wanting to

> be put down, and definitely not wanting to be away from mom at all.

He

> wanted me to hold him all the time, which is very unlike him. That

> moodiness lasted about six days. When I say moody, I mean crying...I

> literally had him in the bathroom with me and needed to set him on

the

> floor so I could use the toilet (TMI-I know) and he was bawling

> because I put him down. His eyes also looked red and swollen, not

from

> crying though. On day 7 the fever hit. About 4 in the afternoon, he

> became very fussy and his fever hit 103F...He also threw up. His

> appetite was gone (he still nurses frequently but also eats

> solids--organic, balanced food), though he did continue to nurse A

LOT

> (thank goodness). The up and down fever lasted four days, during

which

> he remained extremely fussy, the whites of his eyes looked

> bloodshot-though that happened after he threw up, so I don't know if

> it was from the force- but his lids were a bit puffy. The day after

> the fever left, there was a slight rash, looking like prickly heat

> rather than the online pics of roseola rash. It began around the

> diaper area and spread upward. His face had a few red dots, but not

> many. In three or four days, that was gone, though I see that he

still

> has a few bumps that are no longer red, just flesh colored. Again,

> very small bumps...So maybe not roseola?

> Susie

>

[Guest guest]

Was the rash itchy?

> >

> > Sheri

> > It began with behavioral changes such as not napping, not wanting

to

> > be put down, and definitely not wanting to be away from mom at

all.

> He

> > wanted me to hold him all the time, which is very unlike him. That

> > moodiness lasted about six days. When I say moody, I mean

crying...I

> > literally had him in the bathroom with me and needed to set him

on

> the

> > floor so I could use the toilet (TMI-I know) and he was bawling

> > because I put him down. His eyes also looked red and swollen, not

> from

> > crying though. On day 7 the fever hit. About 4 in the afternoon,

he

> > became very fussy and his fever hit 103F...He also threw up. His

> > appetite was gone (he still nurses frequently but also eats

> > solids--organic, balanced food), though he did continue to nurse

A

> LOT

> > (thank goodness). The up and down fever lasted four days, during

> which

> > he remained extremely fussy, the whites of his eyes looked

> > bloodshot-though that happened after he threw up, so I don't know

if

> > it was from the force- but his lids were a bit puffy. The day

after

> > the fever left, there was a slight rash, looking like prickly heat

> > rather than the online pics of roseola rash. It began around the

> > diaper area and spread upward. His face had a few red dots, but

not

> > many. In three or four days, that was gone, though I see that he

> still

> > has a few bumps that are no longer red, just flesh colored. Again,

> > very small bumps...So maybe not roseola?

> > Susie

> >

>