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Hi Fiona:

I tried several of the vitamins that are supposed to grow breast

tissue, they were a big time rip off. I suspect the creams to be the

same. I did not have any bad reactions or get sick or anything off of

them, and if you want to try them they certainly seem safe enough as

opposed to implants as an alternative to firm or enlarge just be

forewarned that they are costly and don't really do much. I joined

the same group Patty mentioned and there were a few girls on there

that thought they had grown some on the supplements, in fact one girl

posted pics and she did go from an A to a D if you can imagine, but I

was not convinced it was from the supps if you know what I mean. At

any point, the others seemed to get nothing from them as did i, so in

my opinion again, I wouldn't waste my money.

I do think that padded bras, push ups, little enhancers put in a

pocket bra etc, are a much better and financially cheaper form of

enhancement. I wear little chicken cutlet looking enhancers in my

pocket bra and I look like a nice full B cup. That is plenty boobies

for me. I also go natural with no bra and then depending on what I am

wearing I do look a little boyish, but I rather liken it to my idol

Gwen Stefani's look and NO ONE is saying she is not a hottie.

hee hee.

Do you know who she is? She is the lead singer of the band NO Doubt

and she has fabulous and lovely small breasts and an amazing body.

I saw her in concert and I swear I have never seen a woman work so

hard and still be able to sing!

she is awesome. If you don't know who she is check out her website.

www.nodoubt.com

they have tons of photos. She does all of us small chested girls

proud!

hugs

In , " Fiona Parkinson " <fionap@i...>

wrote:

> What do you guys think of these " bust enhancement creams " being

sold ? They contain phyto oestrogens...... Isn't phyto s'thing linked

to soya ?

>

> Fiona

> Re: I am new here!

>

>

> -

> Lynda

> I just want to say that all doctors can have less than great

> results. I went to Dr. Feng and was not happy with the way

things

> turned out. I was very flat and she said that I didn't need a

lift

> or anything other than explant. It turned out that my skin was

too

> stretched and now I have saggy skin (like little bags) beneath

where

> my real breasts end. I was disappointed as she showed me pics of

> how she said I would probably look and it didn't happen. I will

> probably return someday to see what can be done to make this look

> better but that doesn't alter the fact that now I will need an

> additional surgery to correct this (if surgery will make it look

> better and I am pretty sure it will). So for me, I can't say

that

> Dr. Feng is the best. However, she seems to be really good and

I

> would certainly never discourage anyone from going to her. She

is

> very competent and I am sure that she did an excellent job on

> explantation. But I was definitely not pleased with my results

> cosmetically. , you were very upset when I mentioned this

a

> couple of years ago because you said that might dissuade someone

> from getting explantation or using Dr. Feng. I apologised to you

> via email and haven't mentioned anything since. But I feel in

all

> fairness when you say that she is the best and the only one you

will

> recommend, that I should point out that she is only human and has

> her less than shining moments also. I have no problem

recommending

> her to others and have never discouraged anyone from going to her

> because I am sure she is very good even if in my case she made an

> error in judgement about not needing anything done. But how can

you

> say that she is the absolute best and better than Dr.Huang since

you

> are aware of the problem I had with my cosmetic result?

Certainly I

> have no problem with you saying that she did a terrific job on

you--

> and others, but insisting that she is the best is subjective at

> best. As lynda pointed out, there are many

> competent surgeons that are recomended on this site.

> I am only saying this now because I have been quiet a very long

time

> on this subject and each time that Dr. Feng has been touted as

the

> undisputed best, I felt a little twinge inside because I didn't

have

> the wonderful experience that you did and yet was soundly

chastised

> for mentioning it. I think we need to be aware that sometimes

> doctors do really good work, and sometimes it is less than

> spectacular. I hope someday to have the money and time to return

> and see if maybe I can't be the one to receive the spectacular

> results next time. Then maybe I won't be embarrassed to post my

> pics on this website. I hope this doesn't cause any controversy,

I

> just needed to get this off my chest because I just don't think

it

> was fair to ask me to be silent about my experience with Dr. Feng

> and yet everyone else is allowed to talk about their

experiences.

> Please don't be angry with me. I just need to

> set the record straight from my own experience.

> Blessings, kathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -- In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> > I am sensitive to the women who need to have implants out and

do

> not have

> > tons of $$. And every time I recommend Dr. Huang you seem to

try

> to

> > dissuade everyone from going to her. She is wonderful and

> extremely

> > talented. And costs thousands less.

> >

> > I am a social worker, and always for the underdog. And poor

women

> and

> > women without insurance sometimes cannot afford $6000 for

> explant. Just by

> > what you posted, you did it again. Dr. Feng is great, others

are

> also. No

> > one is THE BEST. That is making a judgment, and we just should

> not be

> > doing that. We should be open-minded and allow women to make

> their choices

> > by who is closest, who is least expensive (if that is a factor,

> and is not

> > for all women) and who is good at what they do.

> >

> > If you think I am sensitive, you just keep pushing that the

office

> supports

> > that website. It is like you have to run it into the ground.

Dr.

> Huang is

> > extremely good, and is kind, helpful and spends much time

> explaining

> > procedures. She is reasonably priced.

> >

> > If you feel you have to continue bashing her about her office

> being on some

> > website, then no-one will dissuade you. But you may end up

> keeping some

> > woman from going to a very good doctor and end up going to

someone

> who does

> > not do it right by trying to scare them off. It is not a good

> idea.

> >

> > I have seen photos from both, they look identical. Both came

and

> did

> > conferences for me and others who put them on. I refer to

both.

> And I

> > will continue to do so. Hopefully without bashing the other in

> the process.

> >

> > Lynda

>

>

>

>

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What are phyto oestrogens? Are they bad estrogens? I wonder about screwing up one's hormones with the use of synthetic BCP and hormones used in foods? Any comments, feedback? To be on the safe side, I eat grain feed chicken and eat cheese and milk that is hormone free.

.. Be careful of taking hormones you don't need, natural or synthetic.Fiona Parkinson <fionap@...> wrote:

Thanx Patty, just as I suspected: hand us your money, and we'll sell you a whole lotta hooey !

Fiona

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I AGREE 100% with you on this one. I took armour thyroid because I

was told I was hypo well I was not hypo, I lost half or more of my

thick head of hair. It was a nightmarish experience let me tell ya. I

think we all need to be very careful of hormones all the time.

THanks

-C

In , Jane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@y...>

wrote:

> What are phyto oestrogens? Are they bad estrogens? I wonder about

screwing up one's hormones with the use of synthetic BCP and hormones

used in foods? Any comments, feedback? To be on the safe side, I eat

grain feed chicken and eat cheese and milk that is hormone free.

>

> . Be careful of taking hormones you don't need, natural or

synthetic.

>

> Fiona Parkinson <fionap@i...> wrote:

> Thanx Patty, just as I suspected: hand us your money, and we'll

sell you a whole lotta hooey !

>

> Fiona

> rt/messages

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