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Ann,

I am sorry for that mistake if she is not PRO implant but she really

had me fooled what SIDE SHE WAS REALLY ON. To get a personal email

from her WHEN I EMAILED AND TOLD HER I HAD MS FROM IMPLANTS, well,

lets just say it blew me away, when she also read Amy's emails. MY

POINT WAS IF I HAD PEOPLE TELLING ME WHAT WE ALL TOLD AMY, I would

have never got these poisonous things but I ONLY HAD PEOPLE TELL ME

HOW GREAT THEIR IMPLANTS WERE AND HOW GREAT I AM GOING TO LOOK. MY

PROBLEM WAS MY SELF ESTEEM PROBLEM like it is for alot of us and

personally, I HAVE KNOW PROBLEM SAYING THAT at all. I am not

attacking Amy on a personal level, what I was trying to say is LOOK

BEHIND THE PHYSICAL PART OF THIS AND LOOK DEEPER AND a person will

find it is not about the beauty but about something else.

I wish I had friends at that time that didn't have a self esteem

problem like I did or that I had found this before I had went. If I

had even know that one surgery wasn't all it was going to take and

that I would have to fork over more money, that alone, would have

kept me from doing it. That is all heresay, but I just wanted to

apologize if Maire is not for implants and I just wanted you to

know that.

T

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T,

Thanks for the apology, none needed for me, but I am sure that she

would not want people to think she was proimplant.

I do agree with you that we were not told about the dangers. Amy has

has been adequately warned, I just thought it was a bit out of line

to call her names and such because that will definately make her run

the other direction in my opinion. I hope that she will change her

mind!

No hard feelings,

Ann

> Ann,

>

> I am sorry for that mistake if she is not PRO implant but she

really

> had me fooled what SIDE SHE WAS REALLY ON. To get a personal email

> from her WHEN I EMAILED AND TOLD HER I HAD MS FROM IMPLANTS, well,

> lets just say it blew me away, when she also read Amy's emails. MY

> POINT WAS IF I HAD PEOPLE TELLING ME WHAT WE ALL TOLD AMY, I would

> have never got these poisonous things but I ONLY HAD PEOPLE TELL ME

> HOW GREAT THEIR IMPLANTS WERE AND HOW GREAT I AM GOING TO LOOK. MY

> PROBLEM WAS MY SELF ESTEEM PROBLEM like it is for alot of us and

> personally, I HAVE KNOW PROBLEM SAYING THAT at all. I am not

> attacking Amy on a personal level, what I was trying to say is LOOK

> BEHIND THE PHYSICAL PART OF THIS AND LOOK DEEPER AND a person will

> find it is not about the beauty but about something else.

>

> I wish I had friends at that time that didn't have a self esteem

> problem like I did or that I had found this before I had went. If

I

> had even know that one surgery wasn't all it was going to take and

> that I would have to fork over more money, that alone, would have

> kept me from doing it. That is all heresay, but I just wanted to

> apologize if Maire is not for implants and I just wanted you

to

> know that.

>

> T

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I don't find a single post where she was called names. At least not

by me. I just could not take another post about happy implant pre op

wardrobe attire, sorry, it is too much for me to take. My explant was

not that long ago that this crap does not hurt me. I also feel many

ladies here came here to be free of that kind of talk and know for a

fact that there are so many other groups that will be happy to answer

those type of questions for her. If she wants to hear the negative

side of implants we are more than happy to do that, but I am not nor

will I ever tell anyone there was even 1 happy moment with my

implants cause there was not, not one day.

Bewary of people that email you and try to stir up trouble. I am only

warning you. You can make your own decisions but there was quite a

bit of backstabbing at one time and certain people had to leave the

site after making physical threats. I am only warning you that one of

thems name was Marie. It may not be the same one, but she

threatened me and my family.

be wary.

In , " nantynannie " <nantynannie@y...>

wrote:

> T,

>

> Thanks for the apology, none needed for me, but I am sure that she

> would not want people to think she was proimplant.

>

> I do agree with you that we were not told about the dangers. Amy

has

> has been adequately warned, I just thought it was a bit out of line

> to call her names and such because that will definately make her

run

> the other direction in my opinion. I hope that she will change her

> mind!

>

> No hard feelings,

>

> Ann

>

>

> > Ann,

> >

> > I am sorry for that mistake if she is not PRO implant but she

> really

> > had me fooled what SIDE SHE WAS REALLY ON. To get a personal

email

> > from her WHEN I EMAILED AND TOLD HER I HAD MS FROM IMPLANTS,

well,

> > lets just say it blew me away, when she also read Amy's emails.

MY

> > POINT WAS IF I HAD PEOPLE TELLING ME WHAT WE ALL TOLD AMY, I

would

> > have never got these poisonous things but I ONLY HAD PEOPLE TELL

ME

> > HOW GREAT THEIR IMPLANTS WERE AND HOW GREAT I AM GOING TO LOOK.

MY

> > PROBLEM WAS MY SELF ESTEEM PROBLEM like it is for alot of us and

> > personally, I HAVE KNOW PROBLEM SAYING THAT at all. I am not

> > attacking Amy on a personal level, what I was trying to say is

LOOK

> > BEHIND THE PHYSICAL PART OF THIS AND LOOK DEEPER AND a person

will

> > find it is not about the beauty but about something else.

> >

> > I wish I had friends at that time that didn't have a self esteem

> > problem like I did or that I had found this before I had went.

If

> I

> > had even know that one surgery wasn't all it was going to take

and

> > that I would have to fork over more money, that alone, would have

> > kept me from doing it. That is all heresay, but I just wanted to

> > apologize if Maire is not for implants and I just wanted you

> to

> > know that.

> >

> > T

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,

Thanks for the info. I was not here when she was, but I have seen

her post on AOL a bit.

I did see a post that called Amy a smartass and I was a bit shocked

at that and wanted to mention it. I understand why this group is

here and everything that WE have ALL been through. I just think that

there are two more weeks to reach Amy and regardless how we all feel

about her hee hee issues I would rather try until the last possible

moment to prevent her mistake. Of course you are all entitled to

feel differently.

Take care,

Ann

> > > Ann,

> > >

> > > I am sorry for that mistake if she is not PRO implant but she

> > really

> > > had me fooled what SIDE SHE WAS REALLY ON. To get a personal

> email

> > > from her WHEN I EMAILED AND TOLD HER I HAD MS FROM IMPLANTS,

> well,

> > > lets just say it blew me away, when she also read Amy's

emails.

> MY

> > > POINT WAS IF I HAD PEOPLE TELLING ME WHAT WE ALL TOLD AMY, I

> would

> > > have never got these poisonous things but I ONLY HAD PEOPLE

TELL

> ME

> > > HOW GREAT THEIR IMPLANTS WERE AND HOW GREAT I AM GOING TO

LOOK.

> MY

> > > PROBLEM WAS MY SELF ESTEEM PROBLEM like it is for alot of us

and

> > > personally, I HAVE KNOW PROBLEM SAYING THAT at all. I am not

> > > attacking Amy on a personal level, what I was trying to say is

> LOOK

> > > BEHIND THE PHYSICAL PART OF THIS AND LOOK DEEPER AND a person

> will

> > > find it is not about the beauty but about something else.

> > >

> > > I wish I had friends at that time that didn't have a self

esteem

> > > problem like I did or that I had found this before I had went.

> If

> > I

> > > had even know that one surgery wasn't all it was going to take

> and

> > > that I would have to fork over more money, that alone, would

have

> > > kept me from doing it. That is all heresay, but I just wanted

to

> > > apologize if Maire is not for implants and I just wanted

you

> > to

> > > know that.

> > >

> > > T

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Oh I do agree that there are two more weeks to help her from making

that choice, but she seems pretty set on what she wants to do and her

remarks were a little rude to me. I am sorry if you feel anyone was

out of line with her, but we all were feeling a bit attacked and

betrayed.

have you had your implants out yet? I think you are still waiting or

am I wrong? Maybe after you go through yet another surgery you will

feel or understand our thought process better. It is another hell to

go through and while most of us were happy with our experience with

the explant, it is still not a real pleasant thing to go through.

take care

, " nantynannie " <nantynannie@y...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Thanks for the info. I was not here when she was, but I have seen

> her post on AOL a bit.

>

> I did see a post that called Amy a smartass and I was a bit shocked

> at that and wanted to mention it. I understand why this group is

> here and everything that WE have ALL been through. I just think

that

> there are two more weeks to reach Amy and regardless how we all

feel

> about her hee hee issues I would rather try until the last possible

> moment to prevent her mistake. Of course you are all entitled to

> feel differently.

>

> Take care,

>

> Ann

>

>

> > > > Ann,

> > > >

> > > > I am sorry for that mistake if she is not PRO implant but she

> > > really

> > > > had me fooled what SIDE SHE WAS REALLY ON. To get a personal

> > email

> > > > from her WHEN I EMAILED AND TOLD HER I HAD MS FROM IMPLANTS,

> > well,

> > > > lets just say it blew me away, when she also read Amy's

> emails.

> > MY

> > > > POINT WAS IF I HAD PEOPLE TELLING ME WHAT WE ALL TOLD AMY, I

> > would

> > > > have never got these poisonous things but I ONLY HAD PEOPLE

> TELL

> > ME

> > > > HOW GREAT THEIR IMPLANTS WERE AND HOW GREAT I AM GOING TO

> LOOK.

> > MY

> > > > PROBLEM WAS MY SELF ESTEEM PROBLEM like it is for alot of us

> and

> > > > personally, I HAVE KNOW PROBLEM SAYING THAT at all. I am not

> > > > attacking Amy on a personal level, what I was trying to say

is

> > LOOK

> > > > BEHIND THE PHYSICAL PART OF THIS AND LOOK DEEPER AND a person

> > will

> > > > find it is not about the beauty but about something else.

> > > >

> > > > I wish I had friends at that time that didn't have a self

> esteem

> > > > problem like I did or that I had found this before I had

went.

> > If

> > > I

> > > > had even know that one surgery wasn't all it was going to

take

> > and

> > > > that I would have to fork over more money, that alone, would

> have

> > > > kept me from doing it. That is all heresay, but I just

wanted

> to

> > > > apologize if Maire is not for implants and I just wanted

> you

> > > to

> > > > know that.

> > > >

> > > > T

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,

I do understand, I just have a different approach than you have. Yes

I have had my implants out (4 weeks ago) along with a lift and yes I

am just as sick as the rest of you.

Ann

> > > > > Ann,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am sorry for that mistake if she is not PRO implant but

she

> > > > really

> > > > > had me fooled what SIDE SHE WAS REALLY ON. To get a

personal

> > > email

> > > > > from her WHEN I EMAILED AND TOLD HER I HAD MS FROM

IMPLANTS,

> > > well,

> > > > > lets just say it blew me away, when she also read Amy's

> > emails.

> > > MY

> > > > > POINT WAS IF I HAD PEOPLE TELLING ME WHAT WE ALL TOLD AMY,

I

> > > would

> > > > > have never got these poisonous things but I ONLY HAD PEOPLE

> > TELL

> > > ME

> > > > > HOW GREAT THEIR IMPLANTS WERE AND HOW GREAT I AM GOING TO

> > LOOK.

> > > MY

> > > > > PROBLEM WAS MY SELF ESTEEM PROBLEM like it is for alot of

us

> > and

> > > > > personally, I HAVE KNOW PROBLEM SAYING THAT at all. I am

not

> > > > > attacking Amy on a personal level, what I was trying to say

> is

> > > LOOK

> > > > > BEHIND THE PHYSICAL PART OF THIS AND LOOK DEEPER AND a

person

> > > will

> > > > > find it is not about the beauty but about something else.

> > > > >

> > > > > I wish I had friends at that time that didn't have a self

> > esteem

> > > > > problem like I did or that I had found this before I had

> went.

> > > If

> > > > I

> > > > > had even know that one surgery wasn't all it was going to

> take

> > > and

> > > > > that I would have to fork over more money, that alone,

would

> > have

> > > > > kept me from doing it. That is all heresay, but I just

> wanted

> > to

> > > > > apologize if Maire is not for implants and I just

wanted

> > you

> > > > to

> > > > > know that.

> > > > >

> > > > > T

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Ann you're right. I did call her a smartass. Maybe I shouldnt have but with her giggles and hehehes...she was/is trying to make people angry and it worked for me!!!! I was and am offended by her and if my statement offended you that I apologize for, but that is all. If all she wanted was information, she would have gotten it and left the site, but she was after more than that. Several ladies on this site has suffered too much and lost too much to this illness and they do not deserved to be treated with such disrespect.

Vickienantynannie <nantynannie@...> wrote:

,Thanks for the info. I was not here when she was, but I have seen her post on AOL a bit. I did see a post that called Amy a smartass and I was a bit shocked at that and wanted to mention it. I understand why this group is here and everything that WE have ALL been through. I just think that there are two more weeks to reach Amy and regardless how we all feel about her hee hee issues I would rather try until the last possible moment to prevent her mistake. Of course you are all entitled to feel differently.Take care, Ann> > T,> > > > Thanks for the apology, none needed for me, but I am sure that she > > would not want people to think she was proimplant.> > > > I do agree with you that we were not told about the dangers. Amy > has > > has been adequately warned, I just thought it was a bit out of line > > to call her names and such because that will definately make her > run > > the other direction in my opinion. I hope that she will change her > > mind!> > > > No hard feelings,> > > > Ann> > > > --- In , "easygoingchickie" > > <coolchickie@p...>

wrote:> > > Ann,> > > > > > I am sorry for that mistake if she is not PRO implant but she > > really > > > had me fooled what SIDE SHE WAS REALLY ON. To get a personal > email > > > from her WHEN I EMAILED AND TOLD HER I HAD MS FROM IMPLANTS, > well, > > > lets just say it blew me away, when she also read Amy's emails. > MY > > > POINT WAS IF I HAD PEOPLE TELLING ME WHAT WE ALL TOLD AMY, I > would > > > have never got these poisonous things but I ONLY HAD PEOPLE TELL > ME > > > HOW GREAT THEIR IMPLANTS WERE AND HOW GREAT I AM GOING TO LOOK. > MY > > > PROBLEM WAS MY SELF ESTEEM PROBLEM like it is for alot of us and > > > personally, I HAVE KNOW PROBLEM SAYING THAT at all. I am not > > > attacking Amy on a personal level, what I was trying

to say is > LOOK > > > BEHIND THE PHYSICAL PART OF THIS AND LOOK DEEPER AND a person > will > > > find it is not about the beauty but about something else. > > > > > > I wish I had friends at that time that didn't have a self esteem > > > problem like I did or that I had found this before I had went. > If > > I > > > had even know that one surgery wasn't all it was going to take > and > > > that I would have to fork over more money, that alone, would have > > > kept me from doing it. That is all heresay, but I just wanted to > > > apologize if Maire is not for implants and I just wanted you > > to > > > know that.> > > > > > T

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Vickie

I agree with you, maybe resorting to her level was not that nice of

us, but she pissed me off too. And your absolutely right about us

having been through too much to be treated with disrespect. There is

a difference between writting something in regard to getting

informatiion and then writting to be rude and stir up trouble. I am

one of the co moderators on this site, and while I let Patty do most

of the work lately I too, have read some really mean things that this

woman said that had no place on this site. Had you read them, Ann,

you would also be extremely offended. The bottom line was that Amy

mistakenly somehow, thought this was a positive or pro implant site.

She had now left the group and there is no need to go on about it.

She is not going to change her mind she feels implants are safe and

is going through with her surgery. There is not much point in beating

a dead horse, to use someone elses analogy.

Hugs

In , Vickie <gracie17db@y...>

wrote:

> Ann you're right. I did call her a smartass. Maybe I shouldnt

have but with her giggles and hehehes...she was/is trying to make

people angry and it worked for me!!!! I was and am offended by her

and if my statement offended you that I apologize for, but that is

all. If all she wanted was information, she would have gotten it and

left the site, but she was after more than that. Several ladies on

this site has suffered too much and lost too much to this illness and

they do not deserved to be treated with such disrespect.

> Vickie

>

> nantynannie <nantynannie@y...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Thanks for the info. I was not here when she was, but I have seen

> her post on AOL a bit.

>

> I did see a post that called Amy a smartass and I was a bit shocked

> at that and wanted to mention it. I understand why this group is

> here and everything that WE have ALL been through. I just think

that

> there are two more weeks to reach Amy and regardless how we all

feel

> about her hee hee issues I would rather try until the last possible

> moment to prevent her mistake. Of course you are all entitled to

> feel differently.

>

> Take care,

>

> Ann

>

>

> > > > Ann,

> > > >

> > > > I am sorry for that mistake if she is not PRO implant but she

> > > really

> > > > had me fooled what SIDE SHE WAS REALLY ON. To get a personal

> > email

> > > > from her WHEN I EMAILED AND TOLD HER I HAD MS FROM IMPLANTS,

> > well,

> > > > lets just say it blew me away, when she also read Amy's

> emails.

> > MY

> > > > POINT WAS IF I HAD PEOPLE TELLING ME WHAT WE ALL TOLD AMY, I

> > would

> > > > have never got these poisonous things but I ONLY HAD PEOPLE

> TELL

> > ME

> > > > HOW GREAT THEIR IMPLANTS WERE AND HOW GREAT I AM GOING TO

> LOOK.

> > MY

> > > > PROBLEM WAS MY SELF ESTEEM PROBLEM like it is for alot of us

> and

> > > > personally, I HAVE KNOW PROBLEM SAYING THAT at all. I am not

> > > > attacking Amy on a personal level, what I was trying to say

is

> > LOOK

> > > > BEHIND THE PHYSICAL PART OF THIS AND LOOK DEEPER AND a person

> > will

> > > > find it is not about the beauty but about something else.

> > > >

> > > > I wish I had friends at that time that didn't have a self

> esteem

> > > > problem like I did or that I had found this before I had

went.

> > If

> > > I

> > > > had even know that one surgery wasn't all it was going to

take

> > and

> > > > that I would have to fork over more money, that alone, would

> have

> > > > kept me from doing it. That is all heresay, but I just

wanted

> to

> > > > apologize if Maire is not for implants and I just wanted

> you

> > > to

> > > > know that.

> > > >

> > > > T

>

>

>

>

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I will check it out.

thanks!

> Hi Beth,

>

> If you can't take the raw garlic and you are not up to making your

> own, try Nature's Way Garlicin. I have found it to be very

> effective. I buy mine at Whole Foods Market, but I am sure it is

> available at most healh food stores. Just don't take garlic if

you

> have low blood pressure!

>

> Ann

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