Guest guest Posted July 16, 2001 Report Share Posted July 16, 2001 Never, June! Nothing you have said has ever sounded like a lecture. I know it's easy to review what one has written and worry that someone else has taken it the wrong way, but please don't second-guess yourself. You are as sweet as you are wise. And I thank you for sharing your experiences with us. [ ] apology > In thinking back,my previous posts may have sounded like I was lecturing > rather than encouraging. a and ,never underestimate the role you > had in my going forward with the PP programme. Everyone on the list,as I > read about how much pain and frustration there was with doctors,pushed > me to at least try to do something to help. Sometimes my enthusiasm > comes across as lecturing. Far,from it as I have been where all of you > are and know the hopless feeling of not being in control. Anything can > happen to burst my bubble and I will once again be flat on my rear end > but I know that I can log on here and all the posts will encourage me to > keep going. > Because of my age, I am inclined to Mother everyone and the last thing I > want to do is come across as something other than just another arthritic > sufferer trying to get the message out to the medical people to listen > to their patients and I mean really listen to what they are going > through and act accordingly. > Hugs > June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2001 Report Share Posted July 16, 2001 June, I've been reading your posts for a long time, and never have I felt that you were lecturing. I hope you never are flat on your rear end again. Your posts are very encouraging, and you can Mother me any time you want! Reading about the PP program you are in gives me hope that doctors will become more aware of how this disease affects us. I'm glad we inspired you to participate is such a rewarding program. hugs, a [ ] apology In thinking back,my previous posts may have sounded like I was lecturing rather than encouraging. a and ,never underestimate the role you had in my going forward with the PP programme. Everyone on the list,as I read about how much pain and frustration there was with doctors,pushed me to at least try to do something to help. Sometimes my enthusiasm comes across as lecturing. Far,from it as I have been where all of you are and know the hopless feeling of not being in control. Anything can happen to burst my bubble and I will once again be flat on my rear end but I know that I can log on here and all the posts will encourage me to keep going. Because of my age, I am inclined to Mother everyone and the last thing I want to do is come across as something other than just another arthritic sufferer trying to get the message out to the medical people to listen to their patients and I mean really listen to what they are going through and act accordingly. Hugs June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 Dear June: You don't need to apologize for anything. You are one terrific lady trying to help us all. I think you are great. Hugs, Colletti Anjillah@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 To all group members. I feel badly that i argued on here, I will be taking a little break from the group as I get so passionate about some issues that I act wrongly. I was wrong to argue back and forth over the issues at hand and apologize to all whom I offended or upset. It is best for me to take a break for a bit because I don't want anyone to hate me or think I am evil. I really do love my surgeon and sometimes I guess I get too passionate about her, however, I never ever bash any other surgeons and if in my recomendation of Dr Feng I appeared to be saying others were not good, that is wrong and I am so so sorry. I do so love Dr Feng and am grateful that the lord lead me to her, I feel she saved my life, in general when you feel someone saved your life it is hard not to be a bit over zealous about that kind of thing. I am truly sorry for any pain or hurt I may have caused. Kindly, with hugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Wow, now thats an exceptional doctor Lynda! That is so wonderful all shes does for her patients, even without money or insurance. I know whats its like to love your ps, and want to share your positve experince,as I do all the time. Mine came out wonderful, and wasnt scary at all.What a relief to have a great outcome, and a wonderful realtionship with a doc that belives you, and helps you. I couldnt be happier with better results. Its great that we all can have great experiences ,we should all be able to share them .It is a huge part of our healing. >From: Lynda <coss@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: Apology >Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 07:37:12 -0600 > >, >I thought my implanting surgeon was nice, but he sure almost killed me when >he removed a ruptured implant and left my chest full of silicone. > >You really come off as a little obsessed, maybe. I think just toning it >down and timing it better would be all that you would need to do. When you >come out so strongly right after someone makes a recommendation, it really >sounds like you have something against the person recommended. And all >that stuff about her office being listed on some site. If you knew the >eggshells she has walked on in that office to help women!!!! It was quite >something back in the early 90's. I had to lie to them to get to talk to >her when the Boise leader was at my home, sobbing her eyes out because they >would not give her an appt. (Just a little white lie.) > >In any case, at this point, she just does her thing and mostly ignores it >if they don't really like it. They are good at what they do, and sometimes >one of them even assists her now in removal. She has trained one of them >in the en bloc procedure. The others, well....... > >So, we just work with her and ignore her partners. It seems the best way. > >Keep in mind that most women do not have $10,000 cash to have an >explant. takes insurance, and medicaid. She has gone out of her way >to make it easy for women. She writes insurance letters to help get >coverage. She has been truly an angel in this cause. > >One woman came from Alaska for a preliminary appt., and she was so ill, > rescheduled surgeries so she could get her in immediately instead of >having her return in three weeks. She is truly humane. Women who go to >her truly love her. > >When the Boise conference fell short on covering expenses, wrote a >check for $500 to help pay expenses. > >She paid her way to Sydney Australia to do a complementary medical >conference and do a conference for women there. Only Dr. Patten also paid >his own way. We covered the expenses of 5 other doctors to have them >come. Now that was an undertaking. Wonder if I could do it now. Took a >lot of work. > > does the lift the same day, as she thinks it is unnecessary and cruel >to expose women to two surgeries. And if she does a reduction and the >circumstances are right, she does an inverted U incision to keep from >moving the nipple, thereby keeping the sensation in the nipple >area. Anything to make it better for the woman. > >This is just background to give you some of 's character. These >wonderful plastic surgeons that have helped us need to be recognized as >angels of mercy. > >I am a social worker (MSW) and so helping is probably in my blood. I have >gone out of my way most of my life to help others. This is who I am. My >husband (now ex) always said I was the champion of the underdog. I guess >that is true. I am always fighting for those who need a little help. > >So now you know why I recommend . She is affordable, takes insurance >and medicaid, and truly a humane person. I think we all need to thank God >that we have these wonderful angels that are so willing to help us. > >Lynda > > > > >Lynda: > > Honestly I don't know why you think you rile me up, you do not rile > >me up. I do have a stressfull job and sometimes I do come home > >slightly riled up ha ha. So maybe it just seems to come out in my > >posts! I really do not mean to be that way and am going to check > >myself to be sure not to upset or come off rude. > >I am happy that Dr Huang was there to help this lady and think that > >is really awesome. > >I am of course dedicated to helping others, which is why I speak from > >my heart about my experience with explant and implantation for that > >matter everything in between as well. > >I had a really nice implanting PS with impecable reputation and he > >offered to explant me for free, but I was just too freaked out by > >that time. He also would not do a lift at the same time as removal > >and I was basically petrified of looking at my saggy poor sacks of > >skin(not really any breast) so when I spoke with Dr Feng on the phone > >and she assured me she could do both removal and lift together in one > >shot, that was it. I scheduled with her and never looked back. It was > >such a relief and a feeling of peace to be in her tender hands. She > >was such an angel to me. I wish more women would speak up about their > >own personal experiences with their PS's I think that it helps others > >to hear these wonderful things. I hope you will post your wonderful > >story of Dr Huang as well. These things are what really help women ya > >know what I mean? > >Anyhow the staff and even the waiting room at Dr Fengs is just > >amazingly soothing. It was like stepping into another world. After > >all the horrible Dr's and rheumatologists etc that treated me like a > >crazy person it was just nice to be somewhere that finally, I was > >treated with respect and not just that,but to be looked in the eye > >and told"yes it is your implants" that was just the best feeling in > >the world to me. And yes, part of why my trip to Ohio was made easier > >was that I had sky miles on Delta just enough to get me and my mom > >there and home from San Franciso(where I lived at that time). My > >parents loaned me the money and it was not cheap, but they were so > >tired of watching me, their youngest daughter, who had always been so > >full of life and vitality, slipping into death, that they were just > >so happy to help me out financially. I realize not everyone has that > >option and that I am EXTREMELY blessed to have had their help. > >I do so badly want to hear more about surgeons that are good. I want > >so much to feel faith when I tell someone about another surgeon. I > >have a good friend who did go to Denver to Huang around the same time > >as me, her pics are on this site. Her breasts and incisions look very > >very similiar to me. > >She looks amazing and I was impressed with her vertical lift scars. I > >am sure by now they are gone, like mine, just a small white line is > >all I have and even thatr is hard to see. > >For me my health came first, but I admit my looks are important to me > >and I did want to have attractive breasts. I did not care so much to > >be flat, that is fine, as long as they are not droopy ya know. > >Anyhow I am just rambling on now and really have a zilion things to > >do before I go to bed, > >May the lord keep you safe and blessed, > >hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > > > , > > > > > > I was always sure you did not mean to drive women away from good > >doctors. > > > > > > And I am sorry if I rile you somehow, although for the life of me, > >I do not > > > understand it. > > > > > > But, let us agree that many docs can help if they know how and we > >should > > > keep trying to find more of them. Bless them if they can help us. > > > > > > Someday I will tell you how Dr. Huang helped the Boise group leader > >when > > > she had a sudden rupture when she came to my conference in Denver > >in > > > 1993. She was so wonderful. She even gave me her home phone > >number in > > > case something like that came up again. > > > > > > Lynda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 05:54 PM 5/4/2004, you wrote: > > > >Lynda I am truly sorry if I came off that way, I actually have > >always > > > >thought Dr Huang's work very similiar to Dr Feng and realy did not > > > >mean to seem that way. I am totally in agreement that we need all > >the > > > >good docs we can get. I love Dr Feng totally, that I will never > > > >change, but I dont want to fight with anyone. > > > >I am sorry again. > > > >Take care > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > > > > > Hi , > > > > > > > > > > Just to let you know, I don't hold a grudge. But, just one > >favor. > > > >If I > > > > > recommend a doctor, please don't act like it is a bad thing for > >me > > > >to do. I > > > > > have run a survivors group for 13 years and I know that many > >docs > > > >are not > > > > > good. I also know that some are. > > > > > > > > > > I hope we can all be friends and just work together for the > >good of > > > >all women. > > > > > > > > > > Lynda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 06:56 AM 5/4/2004, you wrote: > > > > > >To all group members. I feel badly that i argued on here, I > >will be > > > > > >taking a little break from the group as I get so passionate > >about > > > > > >some issues that I act wrongly. I was wrong to argue back and > >forth > > > > > >over the issues at hand and apologize to all whom I offended or > > > >upset. > > > > > >It is best for me to take a break for a bit because I don't > >want > > > > > >anyone to hate me or think I am evil. I really do love my > >surgeon > > > >and > > > > > >sometimes I guess I get too passionate about her, however, I > >never > > > > > >ever bash any other surgeons and if in my recomendation of Dr > >Feng > > > >I > > > > > >appeared to be saying others were not good, that is wrong and > >I am > > > >so > > > > > >so sorry. > > > > > >I do so love Dr Feng and am grateful that the lord lead me to > >her, > > > >I > > > > > >feel she saved my life, in general when you feel someone saved > >your > > > > > >life it is hard not to be a bit over zealous about that kind of > > > >thing. > > > > > >I am truly sorry for any pain or hurt I may have caused. > > > > > >Kindly, with hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 : Yes we all should be able to share our own personal feelings about our Dr's the good and the bad. I could not have said it better myself. - In , " JOSEPH PALANCA " <juliejp61@m...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 I think they have to pay for their visits, but it is awesome to take Medicaid. And she will fight to get ins. to pay. I wish I had had someone like her when mine was removed. Lynda At 03:32 PM 5/7/2004, you wrote: >Wow, now thats an exceptional doctor Lynda! That is so wonderful all shes >does for her patients, even without money or insurance. I know whats its >like to love your ps, and want to share your positve experince,as I do all >the time. Mine came out wonderful, and wasnt scary at all.What a relief to >have a great outcome, and a wonderful realtionship with a doc that belives >you, and helps you. I couldnt be happier with better results. Its great >that we all can have great experiences ,we should all be able to share >them .It is a huge part of our healing. > > > > > > >From: Lynda <coss@...> >Reply-To: > >To: > >Subject: Re: Re: > Apology >Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 07:37:12 -0600 > >, >I thought my > implanting surgeon was nice, but he sure almost killed me when >he > removed a ruptured implant and left my chest full of silicone. > >You > really come off as a little obsessed, maybe. I think just toning it >down > and timing it better would be all that you would need to do. When > you >come out so strongly right after someone makes a recommendation, it > really >sounds like you have something against the person recommended. > And all >that stuff about her office being listed on some site. If you > knew the >eggshells she has walked on in that office to help women!!!! It > was quite >something back in the early 90's. I h ad to lie to them to get > to talk to >her when the Boise leader was at my home, sobbing her eyes > out because they >would not give her an appt. (Just a little white > lie.) > >In any case, at this point, she just does her thing and mostly > ignores it >if they don't really like it. They are good at what they do, > and sometimes >one of them even assists her now in removal. She has > trained one of them >in the en bloc procedure. The others, > well....... > >So, we just work with her and ignore her partners. It > seems the best way. > >Keep in mind that most women do not have $10,000 > cash to have an >explant. takes insurance, and medicaid. She has > gone out of her way >to make it easy for women. She writes insurance > letters to help get >coverage. She has been truly an angel in this > cause. > >One woman came from Alaska for a preliminary appt., and she was > so ill, > rescheduled surgeries so she could get her in immediately > instead of >having her return in three weeks. She is truly humane. Women > who go to >her truly love her. > >When the Boise conference fell short on > covering expenses, wrote a >check for $500 to help pay > expenses. > >She paid her way to Sydney Australia to do a complementary > medical >conference and do a conference for women there. Only Dr. Patten > also paid >his own way. We covered the expenses of 5 other doctors to > have them >come. Now that was an undertaking. Wonder if I could do it > now. Took a >lot of work. > > does the lift the same day, as she > thinks it is unnecessary and cruel >to expose women to two surgeries. And > if she does a reduction and the >circumstances are right, she does an > inverted U incision to keep from >moving the nipple, thereby keeping the > sensation in the nipple >area. Anything to make it better for the > woman. > >This is just background to give you some of 's character. > These >wonderful p lastic surgeons that have helped us need to be > recognized as >angels of mercy. > >I am a social worker (MSW) and so > helping is probably in my blood. I have >gone out of my way most of my > life to help others. This is who I am. My >husband (now ex) always said I > was the champion of the underdog. I guess >that is true. I am always > fighting for those who need a little help. > >So now you know why I > recommend . She is affordable, takes insurance >and medicaid, and > truly a humane person. I think we all need to thank God >that we have > these wonderful angels that are so willing to help > us. > >Lynda > > > > >Lynda: > > Honestly I don't know why you think you > rile me up, you do not rile > >me up. I do have a stressfull job and > sometimes I do come home > >slightly riled up ha ha. So maybe it just > seems to come out in my > >posts! I really do not mean to be that way and > am going to check > >myself to b e sure not to upset or come off > rude. > >I am happy that Dr Huang was there to help this lady and think > that > >is really awesome. > >I am of course dedicated to helping others, > which is why I speak from > >my heart about my experience with explant > and implantation for that > >matter everything in between as well. > >I > had a really nice implanting PS with impecable reputation and > he > >offered to explant me for free, but I was just too freaked out > by > >that time. He also would not do a lift at the same time as > removal > >and I was basically petrified of looking at my saggy poor > sacks of > >skin(not really any breast) so when I spoke with Dr Feng on > the phone > >and she assured me she could do both removal and lift > together in one > >shot, that was it. I scheduled with her and never > looked back. It was > >such a relief and a feeling of peace to be in her > tender hands. She > >was such an angel to me. I wish more women would > speak up about their > >own personal experiences with their PS's I think > that it helps others > >to hear these wonderful things. I hope you will > post your wonderful > >story of Dr Huang as well. These things are what > really help women ya > >know what I mean? > >Anyhow the staff and even > the waiting room at Dr Fengs is just > >amazingly soothing. It was like > stepping into another world. After > >all the horrible Dr's and > rheumatologists etc that treated me like a > >crazy person it was just > nice to be somewhere that finally, I was > >treated with respect and not > just that,but to be looked in the eye > >and told " yes it is your > implants " that was just the best feeling in > >the world to me. And yes, > part of why my trip to Ohio was made easier > >was that I had sky miles > on Delta just enough to get me and my mom > >there and home from San > Franciso(where I lived at that t ime). My > >parents loaned me the money > and it was not cheap, but they were so > >tired of watching me, their > youngest daughter, who had always been so > >full of life and vitality, > slipping into death, that they were just > >so happy to help me out > financially. I realize not everyone has that > >option and that I am > EXTREMELY blessed to have had their help. > >I do so badly want to hear > more about surgeons that are good. I want > >so much to feel faith when I > tell someone about another surgeon. I > >have a good friend who did go to > Denver to Huang around the same time > >as me, her pics are on this site. > Her breasts and incisions look very > >very similiar to me. > >She looks > amazing and I was impressed with her vertical lift scars. I > >am sure by > now they are gone, like mine, just a small white line is > >all I have > and even thatr is hard to see. > >For me my health came first, but I > admit my looks are important to me > >and I did want to have attractive > breasts. I did not care so much to > >be flat, that is fine, as long as > they are not droopy ya know. > >Anyhow I am just rambling on now and > really have a zilion things to > >do before I go to bed, > >May the lord > keep you safe and blessed, > >hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > > > > , > > > > > > I was always sure you did not mean to drive women > away from good > >doctors. > > > > > > And I am sorry if I rile you > somehow, although for the life of me, > >I do not > > > understand > it. > > > > > > But, let us agree that many docs can help if they know > how and we > >should > > > keep trying to find more of them. Bless them > if they can help us. > > & g >t; > > > Someday I will tell you how Dr. Huang helped the Boise group >leader > >when > > > she had a sudden rupture when she came to my >conference in Denver > >in > > > 1993. She was so wonderful. She even gave >me her home phone > >number in > > > case something like that came up >again. > > > > > > Lynda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 05:54 PM >5/4/2004, you wrote: > > > >Lynda I am truly sorry if I came off that way, >I actually have > >always > > > >thought Dr Huang's work very similiar to >Dr Feng and realy did not > > > >mean to seem that way. I am totally in >agreement that we need all > >the > > > >good docs we can get. I love Dr >Feng totally, that I will never > > > >change, but I dont want to fight >with anyone. > > > >I am sorry again. > > > >Take care > & g >t; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In > , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > > > > > Hi >, > > > > > > > > > > Just to let you know, I don't hold a grudge. >But, just one > >favor. > > > >If I > > > > > recommend a doctor, please >don't act like it is a bad thing for > >me > > > >to do. I > > > > > have >run a survivors group for 13 years and I know that many > >docs > > > >are >not > > > > > good. I also know that some are. > > > > > > > > > > I hope >we can all be friends and just work together for the > >good of > > > >all >women. > > > > > > > > > > Lynda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 06:56 AM >5/4/2004, you wrote: > > > > > >To all group members. I feel badly that i >argued on here, I > >will be > > > > > >taking a little break from the >group as I get so passionate > >about > > > > > >some issues that I act >wrongly. I was wrong to argue back and > >forth > > > > > >over the issues >at hand and apologize to all whom I offended >or > > > >upset. > > > > > >It is best for me to take a break for a bit >because I don't > >want > > > > > >anyone to hate me or think I am evil. I >really do love my > >surgeon > > > >and > > > > > >sometimes I guess I get >too passionate about her, however, I > >never > > > > > >ever bash any >other surgeons and if in my recomendation of >Dr > >Feng > > > >I > > > > > >appeared t o be saying others were not >good, that is wrong and > >I am > > > >so > > > > > >so >sorry. > > > > > >I do so love Dr Feng and am grateful that the lord lead >me to > >her, > > > >I > > > > > >feel she saved my life, in general when >you feel someone saved > >your > > > > > >life it is hard not to be a bit >over zealous about that kind of > > > >thing. > > > > > >I am truly sorry >for any pain or hurt I may have caused. > > > > > >Kindly, with >hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >For >Healing Therapies and Detox info, and to view >Testimonies > >of > > > >Victims, > > > > > >and Studies of harm by >implants, go to: > > > > > >http:// >/group/ /files/ > > > > > > > > > > > >To view links to >related websites on breast implants, go >to: > > > > > > /links > > > > > > > > > > > > >To search past messages in the Archives, go >to > > > > > > /messages > > > > > > > >Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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