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Hi, everyone, my name is , I have four children. All have been

non or selectively vaccinated.

I have a very serious question, in light of recent events.

My two youngest children, ages 2.5 and 3 months were both tested

yesterday for pertussis. Of course, I feel like the world's WORST

mother right now, the pediatrician made me feel horrible, because

neither one of my youngest has been immunized at all. We won't know

the results of the test until at least tomorrow, so I'm hanging on

the edge of my seat and waiting for the Public Health SWAT Team to

show up at my front door and arrest me.

My question is, has anyone here had a child inflicted with one of the

diseases that they are supposed to be vaccinated against? Did this

change your opinions of vaxxing? Did you vaccinate them after they

contracted the illness?

By sheer coincidence, I took out Dr. Sears Vaccine book from the

library last week, and just finished reading it. Pertussis is not

*that* serious, and my children (if they have it), will recover, but

it will be hard to stand against my friends' " I told you so's " for

the rest of my life.

Thanks!

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> Hi, everyone, my name is , I have four children. All have been

> non or selectively vaccinated.

### Welcome, !

>

> My two youngest children, ages 2.5 and 3 months were both tested

> yesterday for pertussis. Of course, I feel like the world's WORST

> mother right now, the pediatrician made me feel horrible, because

> neither one of my youngest has been immunized at all.

### Vaccinated, not immunized. I think the only time you can say your

child is immunized is if they've had the disease and are now immune

to catching it again. And even if they've had the vaccine, they could

have gotten the disease.

> My question is, has anyone here had a child inflicted with one of

the

> diseases that they are supposed to be vaccinated against?

### Not yet - my 4 year old hasn't been sick at all. I kinda wish

he'd catch chicken pox, so he could have immunity, but he's been so

healthy....

Did this

> change your opinions of vaxxing?

### I'm speaking in theory only, but no, I don't think so. Vaccines

simply don't work - it's like playing Russian roulette. After reading

on vaccine ingredients and side effects.. no thanks.

Did you vaccinate them after they

> contracted the illness?

### I would not - why?? If they've had the illness, they're now

immune so there would be no reason for the vaccine. Not that they

work in the first place.

>

> By sheer coincidence, I took out Dr. Sears Vaccine book from the

> library last week, and just finished reading it. Pertussis is not

> *that* serious, and my children (if they have it), will recover,

but

> it will be hard to stand against my friends' " I told you so's " for

> the rest of my life.

### Absolutely - fear of so called " deadly diseases " is a great tool

to use on guilty parents. Unless, of course, you get rid of the fear

factor by realizing measles and chicken pox (and pertussis) are not

deadly in vast majority of cases.

Stand firm - you're doing the right thing. I know it's hard when your

child is sick, but they'll be better off in the long run without

vaxes.

Welcome again,

Magda

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Yeah...your right! That shows how much her doc knows. Do you know

what the claimed percentages are for each shot of Pertussis?

On Oct 2, 2008, at 4:44 PM, spanishmiss430 wrote:

> If your youngest has pertussis, the vaccine wouldn't have mattered -

> it's supposedly not effective till 6 months when they get the third

> and

> final dose.

> Melinda C. in Mass.

>

>

>

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Perfect reply Winnie :) And I can attest personally having treated a

case of this in an unvaxed child with homeopathy. Got through it

fine.

Liz

>

> Hi, --welcome!

>

> No one can arrest you for anything. There are no laws requiring you

to vax kids that young unless they are in daycare. AND if you use an

exemption (which you'd have to or the daycare wouldn't take them),

then you also are within your legal rights.

>

> Now, why are they being tested, just because they're not vaxed? Are

other kids who are vaxed being tested? Whatever your children have

they got from someone else. It didn't just grow in them as

the " virgin pertussis " --if they even have it.

>

> I have had three of my non-vaxed kids get chicken pox. No big deal,

as most people know. And it wouldn't make sense to vaccinate them

after they got the disease. PLUS--the biggest plus--there is no

guarantee a vaccine would work anyway.

>

> If indeed your children have pertussis (and get thee to a

homeopath/naturopath right away if you don't know what to do for it),

YOU will be the one saying I told you so to your friends after your

children get through it.

>

> Be very cautious about letting the ped treat them.

>

> Winnie

>

> Jumping right in

> Vaccinations

>

> > Hi, everyone, my name is , I have four children. All have

> > been

> > non or selectively vaccinated.

> >

> > I have a very serious question, in light of recent events.

> >

> > My two youngest children, ages 2.5 and 3 months were both tested

> > yesterday for pertussis. Of course, I feel like the world's

> > WORST

> > mother right now, the pediatrician made me feel horrible,

> > because

> > neither one of my youngest has been immunized at all. We won't

> > know

> > the results of the test until at least tomorrow, so I'm hanging

> > on

> > the edge of my seat and waiting for the Public Health SWAT Team

> > to

> > show up at my front door and arrest me.

> >

> > My question is, has anyone here had a child inflicted with one

> > of the

> > diseases that they are supposed to be vaccinated against? Did

> > this

> > change your opinions of vaxxing? Did you vaccinate them after

> > they

> > contracted the illness?

> >

> > By sheer coincidence, I took out Dr. Sears Vaccine book from the

> > library last week, and just finished reading it. Pertussis is

> > not

> > *that* serious, and my children (if they have it), will recover,

> > but

> > it will be hard to stand against my friends' " I told you so's "

> > for

> > the rest of my life.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Hi --

Welcome to the group, and don't feel like your the worst mom. My DS had

whooping cough in 9th grade (he's partially vaxed, he had a severe allergic

reaction to DPT).

I didn't take him to the pediatrician right away, I thought it was just a

cough, possibly from allergies, besides he was playing and practicing

lacrosse very day. Anyway, after about 4 weeks of him coughing, I brought

him into the pediatrician, they tested and he had it. We did no meds

(although he had a rescue inhaler just in case), just lots of fresh raw

veggies and fruits and a lot of supplements to boost his immune system. He

did fine and had a great season. :)

I almost forgot, the pediatrician commented he was probably the only child

in our area that had whooping cough, that wasn't fully vaxed...poor kid next

door, fully vaxed, was sooooooooo sick with it!

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On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 4:06 PM, myfourmonsters <crunchymama3@...>wrote:

> Hi, everyone, my name is , I have four children. All have been

> non or selectively vaccinated.

>

> I have a very serious question, in light of recent events.

>

> My two youngest children, ages 2.5 and 3 months were both tested

> yesterday for pertussis. Of course, I feel like the world's WORST

> mother right now, the pediatrician made me feel horrible, because

> neither one of my youngest has been immunized at all. We won't know

> the results of the test until at least tomorrow, so I'm hanging on

> the edge of my seat and waiting for the Public Health SWAT Team to

> show up at my front door and arrest me.

>

> My question is, has anyone here had a child inflicted with one of the

> diseases that they are supposed to be vaccinated against? Did this

> change your opinions of vaxxing? Did you vaccinate them after they

> contracted the illness?

>

> By sheer coincidence, I took out Dr. Sears Vaccine book from the

> library last week, and just finished reading it. Pertussis is not

> *that* serious, and my children (if they have it), will recover, but

> it will be hard to stand against my friends' " I told you so's " for

> the rest of my life.

>

> Thanks!

>

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> Hi, everyone, my name is , I have four children. All have been

> non or selectively vaccinated.

>

> I have a very serious question, in light of recent events.

>

> My two youngest children, ages 2.5 and 3 months were both tested

> yesterday for pertussis. Of course, I feel like the world's WORST

> mother right now, the pediatrician made me feel horrible, because

> neither one of my youngest has been immunized at all. We won't

know

> the results of the test until at least tomorrow, so I'm hanging on

> the edge of my seat and waiting for the Public Health SWAT Team to

> show up at my front door and arrest me.

>

> My question is, has anyone here had a child inflicted with one of

the

> diseases that they are supposed to be vaccinated against? Did this

> change your opinions of vaxxing? Did you vaccinate them after they

> contracted the illness?

>

> By sheer coincidence, I took out Dr. Sears Vaccine book from the

> library last week, and just finished reading it. Pertussis is not

> *that* serious, and my children (if they have it), will recover,

but

> it will be hard to stand against my friends' " I told you so's " for

> the rest of my life.

>

> Thanks!

>

Hi and welcome to the group! My two kids (ages 2 1/2 and 14

months) are also not vaccinated. So far, we haven't dealt with any

diseases that would have otherwise been vaccinated against. But in

my research about vaccines and immune system and overall health, what

I discovered is that the body needs to overcome these illnesses in

order to build a healthy immune system. Many moms have reported big

strides in their children's development following bouts with measles,

chicken pox, and other normal childhood diseases. I'm not entirely

sure about pertussis, but I would imagine it's probably a similar

situation. That being said, I feel for you! I know how I feel when

one of my little ones gets a slight fever, or the sniffles, so I can

imagine how difficult this must be for you to go through. Good luck,

and just know that the " I told you so's " don't even really know what

they're talking about!

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