Guest guest Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Kind of reminds me of our town's basketball team--wear down the opponents so they can't keep up. Our energy is wasted defending ourselves to those who have no intention of listening. Better to spend it on stating facts and putting them on the defensive where they belong. Winnie mercury was Re: Did McCarthy dis us on Oprah? Vaccinations > Hi MIchelle, > I agree with your approach as far as discussing the problems > about > vaccines with other parents. > Discussing it with people who are simply lying to defend the > vaccine makers is another story. That includes every politician > who > took campaign bribes from Pharma, every non-DAN doctor and every > idiot from Neurodiversity who never speaks one word of truth. > None of the arguments about this that happen on message boards > and > blogs are even real. They are all propaganda designed by > professionals to make us jump. These parents who claim they are > opposed to cures are not real. The young people who claim to > have > autism and do not want to be cured are also not real. They are > all > shills whose only goal in all of this is to disrupt the flow of > real > information. > Kirby debates with these people as if they are actual > scientists > with real concerns and real agendas. They aren't. They play > him, > try to terrorize him with false dichotomies and he falls for it. > > Every word they utter is a blatant lie and I don't think he > knows > this. He doesn't know that he should be blowing up the > questions > instead of answering them. > > > > > > > > >You're wrong. We know beyond any doubt that mercury > was > the > > > > > primary > > > > > > >cause of autism. We have known this since 1999. Did > you > not > > > > read > > > > > > >what Deth presented to the IOM in 2004? Are > you > aware > > > of > > > > > > >Neubrander's statistics showing that over 90% of > autistic > kids > > > > > > >improve with methyl B-12? Those kids would not > improve at > all > > > if > > > > > > >mercury was not inside of them preventing them from > making > > > their > > > > > own > > > > > > >methyl B-12. > > > > > > > Lots of kids have been cured by removing the > mercury > with > > > > > > >chelation. Not one of them would have been cured if > mercury > > > was > > > > > not > > > > > > >the cause. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am aware of it all and have been in this since the > mid > 90's > > > > > > > > > > > > And for them it was the cause or a contributing factor > > > > > > > > > > > > And some have not improved with chelation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there are unvaccinated autistic children, did > their > > > > mothers > > > > > have > > > > > > >the flu shot or Rhogam? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, they did not > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did they have amalgams or did they give the > > > > > > >kids mercury through breast milk? > > > > > > > > > > > > No, they did not > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have the unvaccinated been tested > > > > > > >for genetics to check for Retts or fragile X? > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't answer this for each case................. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope to survey all of them that I can find at some point. > > > > > > > > > > > > One common factor among many of them is use of > antibiotics > > > during > > > > > > pregnancy or delivery or post-delivery and infant gets > through > > > > > > breastmilk or through direct exposure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I shouldn't even have to point this out to anyone > who > knows > > > > the > > > > > > >facts about autism, especially the fact that autism > did > not > > > exist > > > > > > >before thimerosal was invented or the fact that there > was > > > hardly > > > > > any > > > > > > >autism before the HepB shot began to put mercury > directly > into > > > > > > >infants' brains that had no blood brain barrier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Excuse me........sounding a little condescending here. > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree mecury is certainly a huge > issue..................but I > > > > am > > > > > > not willing to go so far as to say the primary issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > BUT in UK hep b vax is NOT given at birth as in the US > and > huge > > > > > > autism increase there too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, we can (AND SHOULD) make absolute statements > about > the > > > > > cause. > > > > > > >The more we have people like Kirby making wimpy > > > statements > > > > > like > > > > > > >mercury might have caused some problems in certain > > > individuals, > > > > the > > > > > > >more we look like a bunch of dopes who can't even > convince > > > > > ourselves > > > > > > >that we are right. WE are 100% certain that we are > right > > > about > > > > > this > > > > > > >by virtue of the fact that we have cured children by > removing > > > the > > > > > > >mercury. That proves it, case closed! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glad you are so sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't see the world quite so black and white I guess. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sheri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Every child reacts differently to the vaccines. This is why this is not only the primary cause, but only the major one. Our bodies are different, and this is the only explanation, I can understand, in my opinion. Every child that gets vaxed does not get autism, but they still contain the same amounts of mercury and other toxins. My niece was vaxed with three shots, six different viruses last Tuesday. Received tylenol, and the works. Right now, she only has a severe cold, and everyone in her house got sick with a similar type of cold and excessive mucus. Marieliz > > > > > >Am I wrong or did she dis us? > > > > > > > > > > > >She said that the community she represents is not " anti- > >vaccine " . > > > >They > > > > > >are a group of intelligent parents that know the importance of > > > >having > > > > > >vaccines.She says we deserve safe ones. Are there safe > >vaccines? > > > >Even > > > > > >if you took out all of the chemicals are they safe? It looks > >like > > > > > >someone didn't do enough homework! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly - this came out earlier this year with the Green > >Vaccines > > > >Rally in D.C. > > > > > Some say this is a place to start and go from there. > > > > > But also people are being mislead - no vaccine can be safe. > > > > > I'll send an email I sent then > > > > > > > > > > People think they won't be heard or won't get on these TV shows > >if > > > > > the say all vaccines are dangerous, so they take this route. > > > > > > > > > > >Whose body can handle these vaccine ingredients?Nobodies! > >Maybe, > > > >you > > > > > >can't see the damage but there is damage on a molecular level > > > >whether > > > > > >symptomatic or not! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly - even without the additives, the whole premise is > >flawed > > > >and harmful > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >If you are going to give your kids shots I do agree that there > > > >should > > > > > >be tests done so you know what is going on in with their gut, > > > >immune > > > > > >system, history,body detoxifiers ie:glutithione , etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And even then won't be safe as the vaccines will cause problems > > > >with > > > > > the above, even if fine before the vaccine. > > > > > Sheri > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK > Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm > Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes Sept 10, 2008 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 If a multi-vial vaccine isn't shaken before use, the child that has the last shot from that vial will get more of certain chemicals in their shot. I know one of them is mercury. Everybody gets damaged by vaccines in one way or another. Sometimes, it is on such a small level) that you do not notice) or it doesn't come out till later in life. Everybody is negatively affected. correy > Every child reacts differently to the vaccines. This is why this is > not only the primary cause, but only the major one. Our bodies are > different, and this is the only explanation, I can understand, in my > opinion. Every child that gets vaxed does not get autism, but they > still contain the same amounts of mercury and other toxins. > > My niece was vaxed with three shots, six different viruses last > Tuesday. Received tylenol, and the works. Right now, she only has a > severe cold, and everyone in her house got sick with a similar type > of cold and excessive mucus. > > Marieliz > > > > > > > > >Am I wrong or did she dis us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >She said that the community she represents is not " anti- > > >vaccine " . > > > > >They > > > > > > >are a group of intelligent parents that know the > importance of > > > > >having > > > > > > >vaccines.She says we deserve safe ones. Are there safe > > >vaccines? > > > > >Even > > > > > > >if you took out all of the chemicals are they safe? It > looks > > >like > > > > > > >someone didn't do enough homework! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly - this came out earlier this year with the Green > > >Vaccines > > > > >Rally in D.C. > > > > > > Some say this is a place to start and go from there. > > > > > > But also people are being mislead - no vaccine can be safe. > > > > > > I'll send an email I sent then > > > > > > > > > > > > People think they won't be heard or won't get on these TV > shows > > >if > > > > > > the say all vaccines are dangerous, so they take this route. > > > > > > > > > > > > >Whose body can handle these vaccine ingredients?Nobodies! > > >Maybe, > > > > >you > > > > > > >can't see the damage but there is damage on a molecular > level > > > > >whether > > > > > > >symptomatic or not! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly - even without the additives, the whole premise is > > >flawed > > > > >and harmful > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >If you are going to give your kids shots I do agree that > there > > > > >should > > > > > > >be tests done so you know what is going on in with their > gut, > > > > >immune > > > > > > >system, history,body detoxifiers ie:glutithione , etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And even then won't be safe as the vaccines will cause > problems > > > > >with > > > > > > the above, even if fine before the vaccine. > > > > > > Sheri > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK > > Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm > > Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes > Sept 10, 2008 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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