Re: What to do for an ear infection

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I don't know of anything to do for it...I'm interested to see what others

suggest! My 8 month is currently taking antibiotics for an ear infection. She

has never had any shots and this is her second ear infection.

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My 19 month old son has had a fever for two days and is VERY fussy. He

wakes up every two hours or so at night wimpering and wants to cuddle

all day. My first thought was the flu but there are no other

symptoms. I am wondering now if it might be an ear infection. He's

never been vaxed so I know that it's not as likely, and he hasnt had a

cold lately, which usually comes before an ear infection. I dont want

to take him to the dr to find out since they'll just want to put him on

antibiotics, which are not good for him. Any suggestions?

[Guest guest]

I also wanted to add that I do know that I could take him to a

chiropractor as they are able to cure ear infections, if that's what

it is. But the nearest one that is somewhat homeopathic is over an

hour away and I dont want to drive that far with a sick baby if I

dont have to.

>

> I don't know of anything to do for it...I'm interested to see what

others suggest! My 8 month is currently taking antibiotics for an ear

infection. She has never had any shots and this is her second ear

infection.

> -------------- Original message from " jennameez " <thompson@...>: ---

-----------

>

> My 19 month old son has had a fever for two days and is VERY fussy.

He

> wakes up every two hours or so at night wimpering and wants to

cuddle

> all day. My first thought was the flu but there are no other

> symptoms. I am wondering now if it might be an ear infection. He's

> never been vaxed so I know that it's not as likely, and he hasnt

had a

> cold lately, which usually comes before an ear infection. I dont

want

> to take him to the dr to find out since they'll just want to put

him on

> antibiotics, which are not good for him. Any suggestions?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> My 19 month old son has had a fever for two days and is VERY fussy.

He

> wakes up every two hours or so at night wimpering and wants to cuddle

> all day. My first thought was the flu but there are no other

> symptoms. I am wondering now if it might be an ear infection.

I would suggest to watch him closely and see if he improves in the next

day or two. If not, i'd take him to pediatrician just to be safe. Even

if he/she prescribes something, remember,you don't have to do it.

Katarina

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Hi Jess,

An ear infection will resolve itself as quickly as it will on antibiotics. And

vitamin C will clear it up quicker. My allopathic doctor has always made the

statement, " an ear infection will disappear in about 7 days with antibiotics, a

week without. "

I once took antibiotics for an ear infection, due to the fact I had to make a

plane flight. I then had at least 4 more recurring ear infections following

that. For any infections since, I have taken vitamin c, as per Sherri's

instructions sent to the list, and it has always cleared in 2-3 days. If you

are breast feeding, then you can use breastmilk to treat. Even most allopaths

will admit that antibiotics should not be used for ear infections.

Unfortunately some doctors like to prescribe them for anything and everything.

And as mothers, we think that we are doing the best thing for our children

listening to a doctors advice. I am just lucky mine seems to respect and

support my natural approach to health. Not that we ever see him, lol.

Anyway, I am sure this will have already been said. My emails are coming

through all higgledy piggledy, even getting messages that were posted over a

week back. And many of mine are not coming through for a few days.

Fieldman

Re: What to do for an ear infection

I don't know of anything to do for it...I'm interested to see what others

suggest! My 8 month is currently taking antibiotics for an ear infection. She

has never had any shots and this is her second ear infection.

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Are the doctors worried about the infection spreading to the brain?

correy

On Oct 29, 2008, at 5:43 PM, Fieldman wrote:

> Hi Jess,

>

> An ear infection will resolve itself as quickly as it will on

> antibiotics. And vitamin C will clear it up quicker. My allopathic

> doctor has always made the statement, " an ear infection will

> disappear in about 7 days with antibiotics, a week without. "

>

> I once took antibiotics for an ear infection, due to the fact I had

> to make a plane flight. I then had at least 4 more recurring ear

> infections following that. For any infections since, I have taken

> vitamin c, as per Sherri's instructions sent to the list, and it

> has always cleared in 2-3 days. If you are breast feeding, then you

> can use breastmilk to treat. Even most allopaths will admit that

> antibiotics should not be used for ear infections. Unfortunately

> some doctors like to prescribe them for anything and everything.

> And as mothers, we think that we are doing the best thing for our

> children listening to a doctors advice. I am just lucky mine seems

> to respect and support my natural approach to health. Not that we

> ever see him, lol.

>

> Anyway, I am sure this will have already been said. My emails are

> coming through all higgledy piggledy, even getting messages that

> were posted over a week back. And many of mine are not coming

> through for a few days.

>

> Fieldman

>

> Re: What to do for an ear infection

>

> I don't know of anything to do for it...I'm interested to see what

> others suggest! My 8 month is currently taking antibiotics for an

> ear infection. She has never had any shots and this is her second

> ear infection.

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I have never had that concern mentioned to me. Not by any doctor. However I

have seen it mentioned in articles. Never heard of it actually happening.

Which makes me feel it is probably just propaganda. But I am far from an expert

on the subject, can only go by my personal experience. Others here may have

more to add.

Fieldman

Re: What to do for an ear infection

>

> I don't know of anything to do for it...I'm interested to see what

> others suggest! My 8 month is currently taking antibiotics for an

> ear infection. She has never had any shots and this is her second

> ear infection.

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Take him to the chiropractor.

I was just telling my husband this story, then I saw your post:

Today I went to my chiro for my normal weekly adjustment. I had a

little ear irritation this morning, but was so busy I shrugged it off.

When I got on the table today, he touched my neck at the base of my

ear and I almost came off of the table... it was VERY sore! I

mentioned that, and he said " Yep, you have infection all in here " and

he rubbed the length of my neck under my ear where the infection was

settled. He had me feel it -- it was very swollen. He proceeded to

work on my neck and shoulder, then jerked on my ear, which popped --

he's done this with my son before, but I've never had it done. I was

so shocked... talk about INSTANT relief! The swelling and soreness is

completely gone now, and my adjustment was only 2 1/2 hours ago. I

don't know why I was so shocked, except that I wasn't expecting the

pop when he pulled my ear! LOL It didn't hurt at all... The chiro

has gotten rid of my son's ear problems that effectively before, too.

Also, garlic oil in the ear works well (can find at Whole Foods or a

health food store), or read this info for using an onion to treat ear

infection that I posted a couple weeks ago:

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/EAcJSaQ2FXRt31oirymuAqDUn13eJ5ecqkE16sR_4RV6jVnIuFJ\

TQUTuRnJ2K1KGyfZv0H8vpF6CMEhCpjlpalfcVvsmXyU/OnionforEaraches.pdf

If that link didn't work, here's a tiny url:

http://tinyurl.com/5c8l69

Hope your kiddo feels better soon.

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:13 PM, jennameez <thompson@...> wrote:

> My 19 month old son has had a fever for two days and is VERY fussy. He

> wakes up every two hours or so at night wimpering and wants to cuddle

> all day. My first thought was the flu but there are no other

> symptoms. I am wondering now if it might be an ear infection. He's

> never been vaxed so I know that it's not as likely, and he hasnt had a

> cold lately, which usually comes before an ear infection. I dont want

> to take him to the dr to find out since they'll just want to put him on

> antibiotics, which are not good for him. Any suggestions?

[Guest guest]

You can use the doctor to diagnose and just not take their recommendations for

antibiotics. Is he pulling at his ear? It might be something else, stomach,

teeth, etc.

I second the Vit. C. For little guys I use a liquid that Twin Labs makes that is

not too sour--mix it in juice. I also would give him Larix, a powder that also

mixes in juice IF it's an ear infection.

Best to try homeopathy. Are you familiar with it?

Winnie

What to do for an ear infection

Vaccinations

> My 19 month old son has had a fever for two days and is VERY

> fussy. He

> wakes up every two hours or so at night wimpering and wants to

> cuddle

> all day. My first thought was the flu but there are no other

> symptoms. I am wondering now if it might be an ear infection.

> He's

> never been vaxed so I know that it's not as likely, and he hasnt

> had a

> cold lately, which usually comes before an ear infection. I

> dont want

> to take him to the dr to find out since they'll just want to put

> him on

> antibiotics, which are not good for him. Any suggestions?

>

>

[Guest guest]

When I was a kid just about the only natural remedy that was ever used on me

was for ear infections (everything else got antibiotics and lots of them).

It is a vinegar wash - I think it was 1 part vinegar to 3 parts warm water.

I remember it feeling really good.

Nowadays when my ears get sore, I just use saline or a saline/peroxide mix.

-Lana

[Guest guest]

Good morning ,

I discussed your email with my husband.  $383 is a bit more than we wanted to

pay.  the down payment is doable, but committing to that payment for 3 yrs with

a new baby (we were paying $394 for the BMW  X3- that is why we got out of it)

is  a bit scary.  I am not sure if there is anything else in terms of options

that can be worked out at this point. 

We would love to come in to talk to you but do not want to waste your time so

you let me know if there are other options we can explore.

Ari

 

Arianna Mojica-   (UCC 1-207/1-103) 

~~~ " All rights not demanded are presumed waived " . ~ Thurston

________________________________

From: Roberg <trinnea@...>

Vaccinations

Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:31:01 PM

Subject: Re: What to do for an ear infection

Take him to the chiropractor.

I was just telling my husband this story, then I saw your post:

Today I went to my chiro for my normal weekly adjustment. I had a

little ear irritation this morning, but was so busy I shrugged it off.

When I got on the table today, he touched my neck at the base of my

ear and I almost came off of the table... it was VERY sore! I

mentioned that, and he said " Yep, you have infection all in here " and

he rubbed the length of my neck under my ear where the infection was

settled. He had me feel it -- it was very swollen. He proceeded to

work on my neck and shoulder, then jerked on my ear, which popped --

he's done this with my son before, but I've never had it done. I was

so shocked... talk about INSTANT relief! The swelling and soreness is

completely gone now, and my adjustment was only 2 1/2 hours ago. I

don't know why I was so shocked, except that I wasn't expecting the

pop when he pulled my ear! LOL It didn't hurt at all... The chiro

has gotten rid of my son's ear problems that effectively before, too.

Also, garlic oil in the ear works well (can find at Whole Foods or a

health food store), or read this info for using an onion to treat ear

infection that I posted a couple weeks ago:

http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/EAcJSaQ2FXRt3 1oirymuAqDUn13eJ 5ecqkE16sR_

4RV6jVnIuFJTQUTu RnJ2K1KGyfZv0H8v pF6CMEhCpjlpalfc VvsmXyU/Onionfor Earaches.

pdf

If that link didn't work, here's a tiny url:

http://tinyurl. com/5c8l69

Hope your kiddo feels better soon.

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:13 PM, jennameez <thompsonbjbus (DOT) net> wrote:

> My 19 month old son has had a fever for two days and is VERY fussy. He

> wakes up every two hours or so at night wimpering and wants to cuddle

> all day. My first thought was the flu but there are no other

> symptoms. I am wondering now if it might be an ear infection. He's

> never been vaxed so I know that it's not as likely, and he hasnt had a

> cold lately, which usually comes before an ear infection. I dont want

> to take him to the dr to find out since they'll just want to put him on

> antibiotics, which are not good for him. Any suggestions?

~~~ " The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used " -- Dr. A.

, National Institutes of Health

~~~A truth¢s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie

was believed...When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the

masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its

speaker, a raving lunatic. " Dresden

www.vaclib.org 

www.909shot.com

 http://www.vacinfo.org/ 

http://www.moorbows.com/http://www.momtoanangel.net/ingred.htmhttp://www.vran.or\

g/

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sorry everyone... hit reply too quickly.. i hate when this happens.  so sorry.

ari

 

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________________________________

From: Arianna Mojica <ariannalaw68@...>

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Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:36:35 AM

Subject: Re: What to do for an ear infection

Good morning ,

I discussed your email with my husband.  $383 is a bit more than we wanted to

pay.  the down payment is doable, but committing to that payment for 3 yrs with

a new baby (we were paying $394 for the BMW  X3- that is why we got out of it)

is  a bit scary.  I am not sure if there is anything else in terms of options

that can be worked out at this point. 

We would love to come in to talk to you but do not want to waste your time so

you let me know if there are other options we can explore.

Ari

 

Arianna Mojica-   (UCC 1-207/1-103) 

~~~ " All rights not demanded are presumed waived " . ~ Thurston

________________________________

From: Roberg <trinnea@...>

Vaccinations

Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:31:01 PM

Subject: Re: What to do for an ear infection

Take him to the chiropractor.

I was just telling my husband this story, then I saw your post:

Today I went to my chiro for my normal weekly adjustment. I had a

little ear irritation this morning, but was so busy I shrugged it off.

When I got on the table today, he touched my neck at the base of my

ear and I almost came off of the table... it was VERY sore! I

mentioned that, and he said " Yep, you have infection all in here " and

he rubbed the length of my neck under my ear where the infection was

settled. He had me feel it -- it was very swollen. He proceeded to

work on my neck and shoulder, then jerked on my ear, which popped --

he's done this with my son before, but I've never had it done. I was

so shocked... talk about INSTANT relief! The swelling and soreness is

completely gone now, and my adjustment was only 2 1/2 hours ago. I

don't know why I was so shocked, except that I wasn't expecting the

pop when he pulled my ear! LOL It didn't hurt at all... The chiro

has gotten rid of my son's ear problems that effectively before, too.

Also, garlic oil in the ear works well (can find at Whole Foods or a

health food store), or read this info for using an onion to treat ear

infection that I posted a couple weeks ago:

http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/EAcJSaQ2FXRt3 1oirymuAqDUn13eJ 5ecqkE16sR_

4RV6jVnIuFJTQUTu RnJ2K1KGyfZv0H8v pF6CMEhCpjlpalfc VvsmXyU/Onionfor Earaches.

pdf

If that link didn't work, here's a tiny url:

http://tinyurl. com/5c8l69

Hope your kiddo feels better soon.

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:13 PM, jennameez <thompsonbjbus (DOT) net> wrote:

> My 19 month old son has had a fever for two days and is VERY fussy. He

> wakes up every two hours or so at night wimpering and wants to cuddle

> all day. My first thought was the flu but there are no other

> symptoms. I am wondering now if it might be an ear infection. He's

> never been vaxed so I know that it's not as likely, and he hasnt had a

> cold lately, which usually comes before an ear infection. I dont want

> to take him to the dr to find out since they'll just want to put him on

> antibiotics, which are not good for him. Any suggestions?

~~~ " The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used " -- Dr. A.

, National Institutes of Health

~~~A truth¢s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie

was believed...When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the

masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its

speaker, a raving lunatic. " Dresden

www.vaclib.org 

www.909shot.com

 http://www.vacinfo.org/ 

http://www.moorbows.com/http://www.momtoanangel.net/ingred.htmhttp://www.vran.or\

g/

~~~ " The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used " -- Dr. A.

, National Institutes of Health

~~~A truth¢s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie

was believed...When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the

masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its

speaker, a raving lunatic. " Dresden

www.vaclib.org 

www.909shot.com

 http://www.vacinfo.org/ 

http://www.moorbows.com/http://www.momtoanangel.net/ingred.htmhttp://www.vran.or\

g/

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

>On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:13 PM, jennameez <thompsonbjbus (DOT) net> wrote:

> > My 19 month old son has had a fever for two days and is VERY fussy. He

> > wakes up every two hours or so at night wimpering and wants to cuddle

> > all day. My first thought was the flu but there are no other

> > symptoms. I am wondering now if it might be an ear infection. He's

> > never been vaxed so I know that it's not as likely, and he hasnt had a

> > cold lately, which usually comes before an ear infection. I dont want

> > to take him to the dr to find out since they'll just want to put him on

> > antibiotics, which are not good for him. Any suggestions?

>

If it is an ear infection in most cases they don't need antibiotics anyway.

Maybe teething?

How is he today? Breastmilk in ear can help

And homeopathy

Sheri

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,

Thank you for the advice! How much Vit C should she de given? She is 8 months

old and weighs 22 lbs. She is currently not taking any supplements...just

formula and baby food. My hubby does give her crackers sometimes.

--------- Re: What to do for an ear infection

>

> I don't know of anything to do for it...I'm interested to see what

> others suggest! My 8 month is currently taking antibiotics for an

> ear infection. She has never had any shots and this is her second

> ear infection.

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Hi Sheri!

Under what circumstances would you suggest antibiotics. High Fever?

Some doctors say the infection can worsen and spread to the brain.

What do you think?

Welcome back,

correy

On Oct 30, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Sheri Nakken wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> >On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:13 PM, jennameez <thompsonbjbus (DOT) net>

> wrote:

> > > My 19 month old son has had a fever for two days and is VERY

> fussy. He

> > > wakes up every two hours or so at night wimpering and wants to

> cuddle

> > > all day. My first thought was the flu but there are no other

> > > symptoms. I am wondering now if it might be an ear infection. He's

> > > never been vaxed so I know that it's not as likely, and he

> hasnt had a

> > > cold lately, which usually comes before an ear infection. I

> dont want

> > > to take him to the dr to find out since they'll just want to

> put him on

> > > antibiotics, which are not good for him. Any suggestions?

> >

>

> If it is an ear infection in most cases they don't need antibiotics

> anyway.

> Maybe teething?

>

> How is he today? Breastmilk in ear can help

> And homeopathy

> Sheri

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Thanks to everyone for your advice. I took him in to the Chiropractor

this morning. Last night he was waking up every 10 minutes so I knew

we couldnt let this go on.

He said that it's not an ear infection, but he does have a viral

infection close to the ears. He adjusted him and gave me a homeopathic

medicine called Virex. I hope this helps.

[Guest guest]

That's good to hear. You were right to get him checked with him waking up that

often. Let us know how he is tomorrow.

Winnie

Re: What to do for an ear infection

Vaccinations

> Thanks to everyone for your advice. I took him in to the

> Chiropractor

> this morning. Last night he was waking up every 10 minutes so I

> knew

> we couldnt let this go on.

>

> He said that it's not an ear infection, but he does have a viral

> infection close to the ears. He adjusted him and gave me a

> homeopathic

> medicine called Virex. I hope this helps.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Since you are nursing, you can up your intake of Vit. C and your

nursling will get it through your milk. I take 2000 mg/day for my

nursling. If either the baby or I get sick I up to 3000 mg per day

with no problems. To dose yourself, gradually increase your own

intake and stop and back off a bit once you start experiencing loose

bowels.

Sorry to hear your daughter was still having discomfort, but I'm glad

you went to the chiro. Chiros are certainly worth their weight in

gold! Keep us updated on how she's doing.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:32 AM, <jess_harris@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Thank you for the advice! How much Vit C should she de given? She is 8

> months old and weighs 22 lbs. She is currently not taking any

> supplements...just formula and baby food. My hubby does give her crackers

> sometimes.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jess, I used to just dip my finger in the sodium ascorbate, and put it in my

babies mouth every few hours. She didn't seem to mind. Or mix some into her

food. I have just got up, and still need to wake properly. But I will send one

of Sheri's post on dosage etc. It is important that the vitamin C is in Sodium

ascorbate form. Bear with me, and I will get back to you with the info, as soon

as my eyes open properly. I have neck and shoulder pain (need to visit chiro

desperately), so pretty much just laid in bed most of the night tossing and

turning.

Fieldman

Re: What to do for an ear infection

>

> I don't know of anything to do for it...I'm interested to see what

> others suggest! My 8 month is currently taking antibiotics for an

> ear infection. She has never had any shots and this is her second

> ear infection.

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[Guest guest]

At 07:32 PM 10/30/2008, you wrote:

>Hi Sheri!

>

>Under what circumstances would you suggest antibiotics. High Fever?

>Some doctors say the infection can worsen and spread to the brain.

>

>What do you think?

>

>

>Welcome back,

>

>correy

Thanks Correy

Antibiotics are rarely needed for anything - life and death matters mostly.

Doctors like to make you fearful.

See that article I sent........a red eardrum does not mean infection

and that is what they go on in most cases.

Everyone has to be comfortable with their choices though, so can't

answer your question totally.

Sheri

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes Sept 10, 2008

[Guest guest]

I understand.

I know I would be veeery nervous if my child had an ear infection and

a high fever. It is sometimes hard to know if your child is in a

life or death situation.

I know, you can't tell me what to do. But, how would you handle that

with your kids? Bring down the fever and possible infection with

homeopathic remedies and vitamin supplementation. When would you

break down and take your child to the emergency room?

What would you consider life and death situations for the use of

antibiotics.

This would help clarify it in my mind.

correy

PS I bet your family is very grateful for you and your knowledge.

Good luck to your family. I hope your dad will be ok.

I hope you keep us posted!

On Oct 30, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Sheri Nakken wrote:

> At 07:32 PM 10/30/2008, you wrote:

> >Hi Sheri!

> >

> >Under what circumstances would you suggest antibiotics. High Fever?

> >Some doctors say the infection can worsen and spread to the brain.

> >

> >What do you think?

> >

> >

> >Welcome back,

> >

> >correy

>

> Thanks Correy

> Antibiotics are rarely needed for anything - life and death matters

> mostly.

> Doctors like to make you fearful.

> See that article I sent........a red eardrum does not mean infection

> and that is what they go on in most cases.

>

> Everyone has to be comfortable with their choices though, so can't

> answer your question totally.

>

> Sheri

>

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

> Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes

> Sept 10, 2008

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You ask yourself what would the emergency room docs do. If there is a fever,

they will likely give both Tylenol and Advil. If an ear infection, they will

prescribe antibiotics and convince you that your child might get meningitis if

you don't give them to him/her.

If you don't want those treatments, don't go unless you are very strong and can

say no thanks, I just wanted a diagnosis and I'll do it my way. I do that, but

not everyone is as sure of what else they'll do. I have a whole stock of natural

meds at home.

I draw the line at pneumonia and will take them in if I am really alarmed over

lethargic behavior. I will get the antibiotics for that. I'd be interested to

know others' limits, too.

Winnie

Re: What to do for an ear infection

Vaccinations

> I understand.

>

> I know I would be veeery nervous if my child had an ear

> infection and

> a high fever. It is sometimes hard to know if your child is in

> a

> life or death situation.

>

> I know, you can't tell me what to do. But, how would you handle

> that

> with your kids? Bring down the fever and possible infection

> with

> homeopathic remedies and vitamin supplementation. When would

> you

> break down and take your child to the emergency room?

>

>

> What would you consider life and death situations for the use of

>

> antibiotics.

>

> This would help clarify it in my mind.

>

>

> correy

>

>

> PS I bet your family is very grateful for you and your knowledge.

> Good luck to your family. I hope your dad will be ok.

> I hope you keep us posted!

>

>

> On Oct 30, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Sheri Nakken wrote:

>

> > At 07:32 PM 10/30/2008, you wrote:

> > >Hi Sheri!

> > >

> > >Under what circumstances would you suggest antibiotics. High Fever?

> > >Some doctors say the infection can worsen and spread to the brain.

> > >

> > >What do you think?

> > >

> > >

> > >Welcome back,

> > >

> > >correy

> >

> > Thanks Correy

> > Antibiotics are rarely needed for anything - life and death

> matters

> > mostly.

> > Doctors like to make you fearful.

> > See that article I sent........a red eardrum does not mean infection

> > and that is what they go on in most cases.

> >

> > Everyone has to be comfortable with their choices though, so can't

> > answer your question totally.

> >

> > Sheri

> >

> > --------------------------------------------------------

> > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA &

> Wales UK

> > Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

> > Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next

> classes

> > Sept 10, 2008

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know where I would draw the line. It is hard for me to say, but I know

that if I had any fears about something, I would definately go the course of

antibiotics. The thing is, my kids just don't get sick, so I have never been

put in that position. I am lucky that we have a healthy family history. ie: no

chronic illness whatsoever. So that really helps. Plus going by my medical

records, I had very few vaccines. We also live rural, and have the advantage

of growing our own food, avoiding tap water, breathing clean air. So you could

say, that the measures I take to avoid illness really have paid off. We also

have very little sugar in our diet.

If my children get a cut or sore of some sort. I usually cover it with a

bandaid smothered in honey. The antibiotic properties pretty much take away any

redness, and the covering can be taken off, so the wound heals in fresh air

usually the same day. Sometimes they may get a fever, and a runny nose etc.

Occasionally there may be the need for a day off school to spend in bed and

rest. But I have never had to deal with anything whatsoever that has made me

fearfull. I have one child almost 10, and another 3 1/2. The 10 year old did

get vaccinated to schedule up to 18 months. They did get chicken pox once. But

other than the sores, you wouldn't know it. Another trick is black pepper. My

grandfather has paper thin skin, takes blood thinners and bleeds very easily.

He just puts black pepper on it, the bleeding stops, and healing starts. There

are so many alternatives all around us. But we are slowly being conditioned to

forget all these things, so that greedy people can make more money at the

expense of our health.

At the end of the day, prevention is far better than a cure. Hopefully, I will

never have to consider any treatments the allopaths provide.

Fieldman

Re: What to do for an ear infection

You ask yourself what would the emergency room docs do. If there is a fever,

they will likely give both Tylenol and Advil. If an ear infection, they will

prescribe antibiotics and convince you that your child might get meningitis if

you don't give them to him/her.

If you don't want those treatments, don't go unless you are very strong and

can say no thanks, I just wanted a diagnosis and I'll do it my way. I do that,

but not everyone is as sure of what else they'll do. I have a whole stock of

natural meds at home.

I draw the line at pneumonia and will take them in if I am really alarmed over

lethargic behavior. I will get the antibiotics for that. I'd be interested to

know others' limits, too.

Winnie

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most ear infections are due to vaccines http://whale.to/vaccine/otitis.html

and drugging fever a cause of meningitis http://whale.to/a/fever1.html

Re: What to do for an ear infection

You ask yourself what would the emergency room docs do. If there is a fever,

they will likely give both Tylenol and Advil. If an ear infection, they will

prescribe antibiotics and convince you that your child might get meningitis if

you don't give them to him/her.

If you don't want those treatments, don't go unless you are very strong and

can say no thanks, I just wanted a diagnosis and I'll do it my way. I do that,

but not everyone is as sure of what else they'll do. I have a whole stock of

natural meds at home.

I draw the line at pneumonia and will take them in if I am really alarmed over

lethargic behavior. I will get the antibiotics for that. I'd be interested to

know others' limits, too.

Winnie

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[Guest guest]

Is he better yet? If not, liquid garlic (room temp or slightly warm)

in ear fixes our kids ears every time. Never had to take any

medication - and I probably would have just to stop the pain if it got

too bad. A couple have had recurring earaches, but when I say

recurring, it is like a year later. I have only had to administer the

garlic twice in a row once before they were better.I have them lay on

my lap so I can hold their head still, drop in several drops, contain

it with a cotton ball - tickle back, read story or let them watch a

video to keep them still for about 10 minutes. THen I wipe out the

outer ear and it's done. I would also give him extra vit c in a

banana/pineapple (or something like that) smoothie. Lastly, or really

1st, I would eliminate milk. My son who was scheduled for tubes can

now hear completely after going off milk. (Now we use raw milk and it

doesn't affect his ears, so we are thrilled about it)

>

> My 19 month old son has had a fever for two days and is VERY fussy.

He

> wakes up every two hours or so at night wimpering and wants to cuddle

> all day. My first thought was the flu but there are no other

> symptoms. I am wondering now if it might be an ear infection. He's

> never been vaxed so I know that it's not as likely, and he hasnt had

a

> cold lately, which usually comes before an ear infection. I dont

want

> to take him to the dr to find out since they'll just want to put him

on

> antibiotics, which are not good for him. Any suggestions?

>

[Guest guest]

I believe someone asked about health of non-vaxed.

My never vaxed 3yr dd's been ill 3 times. Once last year with a 105

fever that lasted a day or two, then lowered to 100-101 for a week.

(I did give her some Tylenol a few nights.) We were out of town.

Never went to a dr. In July she had roseola (Again, 105 fever for

several days, then it lowered when she got the spots. Whole thing

lasted less than a week.) Didn't go to a dr. Over New Year's she had

a 105 fever for almost a week. She was VERY, VERY lethargic and

really only drank water for days. Slept a lot and wanted to be near

me 24/7. I gave her echinacea and vitamins and oil of oregano and

took her to the chiro almost everyday. I gave her a small amount of

Tylenol after a few days when she became restless. It was a little

scary, but the support of the chiro helped ease my mind. After the

first week, my dad talked me into seeing a dr. By then she was

feeling much better. For some reason he got to me. (I wish I would

have been in this group then!) Dr said she had ear infections ( " her

ears are as red as your shirt " ) and gave script for antibiotic. I did

actually giver her a few days worth, then stopped. I think I got my

sanity back. What was I thinking?? She was getting BETTER!! already!

Looking back, as my dh ended up having pneumonia about a week or so

after she became ill, I think she had pneumonia. We managed through

it and I'm grateful I trusted my instincts (not including the loss of

sanity for a bit). I'm sure the hospital would have had a field day

with her, instead of letting her body fight it and rest at home with

her mommy. I also think the chiro adjustments and no vaxs are what

helps her body fight better. Other then these she's never been ill or

had any problems. She had a minor speech delay, which now I see could

have been from the ultrasound I had with her?? or could have just

been in her make-up since it wasn't severe by any means.

I was wondering, though. Are ear infections bacterial or viral? If

they're viral, antibiotics won't do anything anyhow, right? Dd saw

ped just before 12mo visit (which was her last official ped appt to

date) and the ped said her ears looked a little red (after looking

twice) and gave rx for antibiotic. When I questioned her, she was not

too happy. Dd acted fine, wasn't pulling on her ears or anything. So

we went to the chiro.

Also, what can I give her instead of Tylenol? I wasn't trying to

lower her temp, since she seems to get a 105 temp easy and I know

that's her body fighting off whatever it is, but I want something

easy to help her relax and rest.

I'm not really sure of my limits. I was pushed pretty far back in

January, but I really lean on my chiro's knowledge for this. I know

they would not steer me wrong. I prayed a lot when she just laid with

me. It was very scary, but I felt it was best for her. No one wants

to see their babies not well. I hope not to have to deal with

anything like that again. FYI - I've had friend's threatened with

having DCFS called on them for not following dr's orders when in the

hosp!! Or by even making a comment like, " I wish I could just grab

her and run out the door. " Unbelieveable!

Not to change the subject, but Monday I was in the hospial with

severe pains by my left kidney. They found calcium deposits in both

kidney's, but aren't sure why I'm having such severe pain. I was

given 2 bags of fluids and I've been drinking about 100oz water/day

and started echinacea Wednesday. The pain's not as intense, but not

sure what else to do except stay off my feet (not so easy w/3yr old).

I'm 29 weeks pregnant. The midwife called to prescribe antibiotic for

group beta strep (which I already know I've tested positive for), but

I'm taking the echinacea instead. Anyone have knowledge of this??

Thanks.

Sorry this was sooooo long.

> > > >Hi Sheri!

> > > >

> > > >Under what circumstances would you suggest antibiotics. High

Fever?

> > > >Some doctors say the infection can worsen and spread to the

brain.

> > > >

> > > >What do you think?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Welcome back,

> > > >

> > > >correy

> > >

> > > Thanks Correy

> > > Antibiotics are rarely needed for anything - life and death

> > matters

> > > mostly.

> > > Doctors like to make you fearful.

> > > See that article I sent........a red eardrum does not mean

infection

> > > and that is what they go on in most cases.

> > >

> > > Everyone has to be comfortable with their choices though, so

can't

> > > answer your question totally.

> > >

> > > Sheri

> > >

> > > --------------------------------------------------------

> > > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> > > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA &

> > Wales UK

> > > Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

> > > Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next

> > classes

> > > Sept 10, 2008