to patty

[Guest guest]

Hello there Patty. How are ya? did you get the photo I sent you to

be posted?? Please post the darker one. If it was too big to post, I

will try and send you another one. I was having trouble shrinking it

to a smaller size. I tried to post it myself, but could not figure

it out..thank you so much ...hugs teresa

[Guest guest]

I can't believe that you are still defending me after all the times

I've called you with the SAME old story-Poor me....why

me?.....nothing works....my husband isn't helping me....-

you are a true friend.

You have been telling me the same great advice for almost 3 yrs. and

you've never said-Hey, get over it!! I'm so grateful for your group

and even though you are so busy, you never seem too busy to hear me

vent!

You're the best! Love, Daryl

I'm so sorry that it took me

so

> long to write you back. Sitting at

> > the computer is very hard for me. I'd love to call you-My # is

702-

> > 361-6442-Leave you phone# and I'll call you right back.

> >

> > It's strange that you mentioned the sinus problem, when I was a

> > flight attendant, I had many sinus infections. I was given so

many

> > antibiotics and I'm sure that didn't help my Candida problem.

> Every

> > medical Dr. that I have been to in the last 5 yrs. (dozens) all

> have

> > said that same thing-that everyone has Candida in their body and

> > there is no way that I am sick from it. When I ask them about

all

> > the books-they say that it's a money making scheme.

> >

> > Do you have terrible sugar cravings like I do? I feel like I am

> > addicted to sugar!!!

> >

> > It sounds like you have been very consistant about taking your

> > supplements. Is a Dr. helping you?? I have been diagnosed with

> > Mycoplasma also. The Dr. wanted to put me on a high dose of

> > antibiotics, but I didn't take them.

> >

> > I'd love to talk with you!! Love, Daryl

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given

> by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

> treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I am not Patty but I can tell you that I know Patty will pretty

much say the same thing as me as far as getting the implants out goes.

At first I know I did not like my breasts but not because they really

looked that bad, it was more because I was used to them being big and

it just took time for them to fluff out and for them to feel like mine

again .... I also only had mine for 18 months and got sick after only

3 and yeah I prayed and hoped I would get better before explanting

them, but I realized that had I gotten better I still would never have

been at peace with implants inside my body. Not after all I had been

through and all I had known. I would have kept waiting for the illness

to strike me again it would not have been fun life. Also knowing that

they would need to be replaced and that one might just start leaking

at any time and what if they were full of bugs and contaminates it

just made no sense to keep them anymore even though the thought of

removal freaked me out too.

As far as getting better it does take time for most of us but most of

us do get well. I no longer have any of my old symptoms, not one. I am

not speaking for everyone but for myself after removal things kept

improving slowly and by 2 years I was pretty much back to myself.

I am almost 6 years post explant and doing great. It is almost like it

happened to someone else because I can't believe I was ever so ill,

but I was and i will always remember it, esp if I was to ever think of

getting implants again.....which I have thought about for about 1

second and then realized that I would be flirting with illness again

and that it would never be worth it. Not to mention how disgusting I

think they feel under the skin.

I really hope that you will come to terms with this whole thing and go

through with the explant, just make sure you find a good Dr to do it,

or you can end up worse off then you are now....it terms of both

health and cosmetically.

good luck and best wishes

In , " sukeekitty " <sukeekitty@y...> wrote:

>

> Hi , its from yesturday. I was looking for a Dr. to explant I

> have had mine for 6 months. I wanted to ask you about your story. YOu

> said you had yours only 8 months how long did you have symptoms and

> when you got them out how did you feel , physically and emotionally

> did you hate your breasts or not. How long before you felt better?

> I can't decide what to do. I have a consult on Nov 4th with a

> different Dr. Till then I will just have to see if I get better.

> Thank you

> KAren

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you I appreciate your input. Could you tell me how your symptoms started and what they were?

Thanks

carrie41_fun <carrie41_fun@...> wrote:

I am not Patty but I can tell you that I know Patty will prettymuch say the same thing as me as far as getting the implants out goes.At first I know I did not like my breasts but not because they reallylooked that bad, it was more because I was used to them being big andit just took time for them to fluff out and for them to feel like mineagain .... I also only had mine for 18 months and got sick after only3 and yeah I prayed and hoped I would get better before explantingthem, but I realized that had I gotten better I still would never havebeen at peace with implants inside my body. Not after all I had beenthrough and all I had known. I would have kept waiting for the illnessto strike me again it would not have been fun life. Also knowing thatthey would need to be replaced and that one might just start leakingat any time

and what if they were full of bugs and contaminates itjust made no sense to keep them anymore even though the thought ofremoval freaked me out too.As far as getting better it does take time for most of us but most ofus do get well. I no longer have any of my old symptoms, not one. I amnot speaking for everyone but for myself after removal things keptimproving slowly and by 2 years I was pretty much back to myself.I am almost 6 years post explant and doing great. It is almost like ithappened to someone else because I can't believe I was ever so ill,but I was and i will always remember it, esp if I was to ever think ofgetting implants again.....which I have thought about for about 1second and then realized that I would be flirting with illness againand that it would never be worth it. Not to mention how disgusting Ithink they feel under the skin.I really hope that you will come to terms with this whole thing and gothrough

with the explant, just make sure you find a good Dr to do it,or you can end up worse off then you are now....it terms of bothhealth and cosmetically.good luck and best wishesIn , "sukeekitty" <sukeekitty@y...> wrote:>> Hi , its from yesturday. I was looking for a Dr. to explant I > have had mine for 6 months. I wanted to ask you about your story. YOu > said you had yours only 8 months how long did you have symptoms and > when you got them out how did you feel , physically and emotionally > did you hate your breasts or not. How long before you felt better? > I can't decide what to do. I have a consult on Nov 4th with a > different Dr. Till then I will just have to see if I get better.> Thank you > KAren>

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[Guest guest]

Yes I can.... My symptoms started with aches and pains and they were

first just in my fingers and toes, it was weird. Then I remember my

hip started hurting, I used to be a runner and I couldn't run anymore

so I had to stop running because of it and started to swim. When I was

swimming I noticed my feet started hurting and I thought how strange

because my feet shouldn't hurt from swimming ya know. Then it went

into my hands and my heels and of course it started just hurting

everywhere. I did not notice hair loss early on but later that

happened too. I had tons of hair so it never became obvious though.

I think the worse thing that I had though of all of it was the

dizziness, I felt a cross between dizzy and high or drunk. It was

bizarre to say the least. This started after the pain and once it

started at about 3 months post implantation it just never went away. I

was going absolutely crazy! It was horrible. It never did go away. I

just hated it! I had that for over 18 months and that was enough to

drive me nuts. After explant I still had it for awhile and then it

just went away. I know allot of women call it brain fog but mine was

more of a dizzy spacey feeling, if that is what brain fog is than that

is what I had! It was bad but thank god it is completely gone now! I

am so far from having those symptoms that it almost seems like it was

another lifetime ago. So they do go away but it did take time. I would

say within 2 years all my symptoms had pretty much gone away. I am

totally normal now.

I hope this helps!

Hugs

In , KAren Odell <sukeekitty@y...> wrote:

>

> Thank you I appreciate your input. Could you tell me how your

symptoms started and what they were?

> Thanks

>

>

> carrie41_fun <carrie41_fun@y...> wrote:

> I am not Patty but I can tell you that I know Patty will pretty

> much say the same thing as me as far as getting the implants out goes.

> At first I know I did not like my breasts but not because they really

> looked that bad, it was more because I was used to them being big and

> it just took time for them to fluff out and for them to feel like mine

> again .... I also only had mine for 18 months and got sick after only

> 3 and yeah I prayed and hoped I would get better before explanting

> them, but I realized that had I gotten better I still would never have

> been at peace with implants inside my body. Not after all I had been

> through and all I had known. I would have kept waiting for the illness

> to strike me again it would not have been fun life. Also knowing that

> they would need to be replaced and that one might just start leaking

> at any time and what if they were full of bugs and contaminates it

> just made no sense to keep them anymore even though the thought of

> removal freaked me out too.

> As far as getting better it does take time for most of us but most of

> us do get well. I no longer have any of my old symptoms, not one. I am

> not speaking for everyone but for myself after removal things kept

> improving slowly and by 2 years I was pretty much back to myself.

> I am almost 6 years post explant and doing great. It is almost like it

> happened to someone else because I can't believe I was ever so ill,

> but I was and i will always remember it, esp if I was to ever think of

> getting implants again.....which I have thought about for about 1

> second and then realized that I would be flirting with illness again

> and that it would never be worth it. Not to mention how disgusting I

> think they feel under the skin.

> I really hope that you will come to terms with this whole thing and go

> through with the explant, just make sure you find a good Dr to do it,

> or you can end up worse off then you are now....it terms of both

> health and cosmetically.

> good luck and best wishes

>

>

>

>

>

> In , " sukeekitty " <sukeekitty@y...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi , its from yesturday. I was looking for a Dr. to explant I

> > have had mine for 6 months. I wanted to ask you about your story. YOu

> > said you had yours only 8 months how long did you have symptoms and

> > when you got them out how did you feel , physically and emotionally

> > did you hate your breasts or not. How long before you felt better?

> > I can't decide what to do. I have a consult on Nov 4th with a

> > different Dr. Till then I will just have to see if I get better.

> > Thank you

> > KAren

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'd be glad to answer your questions. I had symptoms that had begun

in a milder way at about 6 months after implantation,such as more

fatigue, but it was only an annoyance, not the full blown debilitating

type of fatigue. That chronic fatigue did hit at about 8 months. I

got explanted within a month of the onset of the worst of my symptoms,

and after explant it took about 4 years for those symptoms to be gone

for the most part. So in answer to your question about how long I had

symptoms, before explant, about 2 months, after explant they continued

for about 4 years.

When I got them out, I was devastated, so emotionally it took a lot of

time to get over the whole nightmare. I had hated my breasts before I

got implants, as they were all stretched out and saggy from

breastfeeding my kids, so I was devastated to go back to that. I did

have a lift and that helped immensely. However, still, it was a very

difficult time dealing with my looks after the explant, and being all

smooshed down and bruised eveywhere. My chest looked like it had been

hit by a truck.

It was a very dark and depressing time for me, both from a physical

standpoint and an emotional one. Unfortunately, my husband, (though I

think the world of him now and he is very supportive), at that time,

was going through his own struggles about dealing with this whole

thing and I didn't feel he was as compassionate toward me as I would

have liked him to have been. I've forgiven him, of course, but at the

time it was pretty painful and I felt quite alone. I was so thankful

for the kind women in Ilena's support group, who helped me get through

that awful time in my life.

Of course time has healed all wounds and my faith in God has given me

strength that I never had before. He has shown Himself to be utterly

land completely faithful and merciful in my life, and His grace

towards me fills me with awe. My husband and I have a strong, strong

marriage now, and I am completely healed both physically and

emotionally of the pain I went through. In fact, I thank God for the

lessons I learned. I couldn't have learned them any other way and

they have been very valuable lessons about myself, about health, about

people, about our government, about so many things.

So, there is always good that can come out of the bad. We just have

to look for it and let God work in our lives.

, I wish you peace upon your next consultation, and that you

would get the validation that you need to go through with this. I am

not sure that you can count on seeing any long lasting improvement

without making some drastic changes. Implants can affect our immune

system in such devastating ways. It takes quite a long time to heal.

I hope this helps you...keep asking questions, and stay hopeful that

there are answers to bring you back to good health.

God bless,

Patty

--- In , " sukeekitty " <sukeekitty@y...>

wrote:

>

> Hi , its from yesturday. I was looking for a Dr. to explant I

> have had mine for 6 months. I wanted to ask you about your story.

YOu

> said you had yours only 8 months how long did you have symptoms and

> when you got them out how did you feel , physically and emotionally

> did you hate your breasts or not. How long before you felt better?

> I can't decide what to do. I have a consult on Nov 4th with a

> different Dr. Till then I will just have to see if I get better.

> Thank you

> KAren

>