Re: OT: surgery recommendations

[Guest guest]

We have a dear family friend who had this done and my MIL just had a knee

replaced. There are exercises they are given to get ready, DO THEM! My MIL

did hers faithfully while her SIL did not and she is far, far better off.

Also, be prepared to push in PT. And, yes, better eating habits started now

will go a long way on the other side, when she can move around better. Off

the top of my head I would say Coral calcium but keep asking here: you

don't want to interfere with the surgery.

I second the pro-biotics. I am not pro-doctor, but everyone I have me who

has had one of these replacements has said their lives are so much better

for it.

Maeghan

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Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:59 AM

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Subject: OT: surgery recommendations

I am in need of some advice from all the wise people here.

My mother is going to need a hip replacement after the holidays. She has

needed it for years

but has a strong fear of doctors (smart lady) and has avoided it. But is now

only able to walk

with a cane and getting worse by the week.

What can she do to prepare for surgery? Are there certain vitamins or things

she should bone

up on? I know she will take the antibiotics post surgery but I will get her

probiotics to work

on countering that. We are very concerned as she is quite obese and has high

risk of

complications. Would appreciate any thoughts! I'm not used to being the one

taking care of

my parent, quite the role reversal. =)

Melinda C. in Mass.

[Guest guest]

I suggest taking Arnica before going into surgery and from the minute coming out

until the pain is gone. It will help heal and kill the pain.

Winnie

OT: surgery recommendations

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> I am in need of some advice from all the wise people here.

> My mother is going to need a hip replacement after the holidays.

> She has needed it for years

> but has a strong fear of doctors (smart lady) and has avoided

> it. But is now only able to walk

> with a cane and getting worse by the week.

> What can she do to prepare for surgery? Are there certain

> vitamins or things she should bone

> up on? I know she will take the antibiotics post surgery but I

> will get her probiotics to work

> on countering that. We are very concerned as she is quite obese

> and has high risk of

> complications. Would appreciate any thoughts! I'm not used to

> being the one taking care of

> my parent, quite the role reversal. =)

>

> Melinda C. in Mass.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Winnie, years ago my holistic dentist said not to use Arnica before oral surgery

or extractions. I don't remember the reason for this - sorry, age related memory

problems! LOL!

Perhaps Sheri or could shed some light on this.

It was fantastic after abdominal surgery - none of the (apparently) usual lumpy

haematomas that can hang around for months!

Maracuja

From: wharrison@... <wharrison@...>

Subject: Re: OT: surgery recommendations

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Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 8:21 AM

I suggest taking Arnica before going into surgery and from the

minute coming out until the pain is gone. It will help heal and kill the pain.

Winnie

OT: surgery recommendations

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> I am in need of some advice from all the wise people here.

> My mother is going to need a hip replacement after the holidays.

> She has needed it for years

> but has a strong fear of doctors (smart lady) and has avoided

> it. But is now only able to walk

> with a cane and getting worse by the week.

> What can she do to prepare for surgery? Are there certain

> vitamins or things she should bone

> up on? I know she will take the antibiotics post surgery but I

> will get her probiotics to work

> on countering that. We are very concerned as she is quite obese

> and has high risk of

> complications. Would appreciate any thoughts! I'm not used to

> being the one taking care of

> my parent, quite the role reversal. =)

>

> Melinda C. in Mass.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hmm, I took it before getting a root canal, and after. No swelling,

tenderness--nothing. I did it on the advice on a friend who had several oral

surgeries and the same results. My 83-yr-old mother used it before having a

wisdom tooth pulled, too. Plus, another friend has had several surgeries, one

most recently on her neck--very scary! and took it repeatedly before and after.

I can't imagine why the dentist would suggest not taking it. I'd also be curious

to know.

Winnie

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> Vaccinations

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> > I am in need of some advice from all the wise people here.

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> > My mother is going to need a hip replacement after the

> holidays.

>

> > She has needed it for years

>

> > but has a strong fear of doctors (smart lady) and has avoided

>

> > it. But is now only able to walk

>

> > with a cane and getting worse by the week.

>

> > What can she do to prepare for surgery? Are there certain

>

> > vitamins or things she should bone

>

> > up on? I know she will take the antibiotics post surgery but I

>

> > will get her probiotics to work

>

> > on countering that. We are very concerned as she is quite

> obese

>

> > and has high risk of

>

> > complications. Would appreciate any thoughts! I'm not used to

>

> > being the one taking care of

>

> > my parent, quite the role reversal. =)

>

> >

>

> > Melinda C. in Mass.

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> >

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[Guest guest]

It's funny because my mother just recently had shoulder surgery and when she

was doing the pre-op, they told her not to take arnica, which is in

traumeel, which our naturopath had suggested she take.

My mother was told it can have some effect on bleeding, not sure which way -

clotting or not clotting. She was told by the surgeon's assistant that

taking it after was a very good idea, so she was definitely not anti-natural

medicine.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Maracuja <howdurdago@...> wrote:

> Winnie, years ago my holistic dentist said not to use Arnica before oral

> surgery or extractions.

>

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[Guest guest]

Now that you mention it, there is a dentist here in town who will not work

on children who have not been dosed with arnica for a certain amount of time

prior to their appointment.

Lots of conflicting information out there, no? I just listen to my

naturopath and go with that!!

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:21 AM, <wharrison@...> wrote:

> Hmm, I took it before getting a root canal, and after.

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Love, love, love, that is the soul of genius. ~Mozart

[Guest guest]

Maybe there's some confusion among some of the surgeons/dentists who are not

familiar with homeopathy and they think the arnica is in cream form--which is

not used topically on open wounds.

It CAN have an effect on the bleeding, a clotting effect, if you will. That's

why you would take it. The less blood in the area, the less pain. But it gets

reduced through healing rather than forcing it to clot. I don't know if that is

a technically correct way of explaining it but...

I've never heard any conflict over this before--very interesting.

Winnie

Re: OT: surgery recommendations

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> It's funny because my mother just recently had shoulder surgery

> and when she

> was doing the pre-op, they told her not to take arnica, which is in

> traumeel, which our naturopath had suggested she take.

>

> My mother was told it can have some effect on bleeding, not sure

> which way -

> clotting or not clotting. She was told by the surgeon's

> assistant that

> taking it after was a very good idea, so she was definitely not

> anti-natural

> medicine.

>

>

>

> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Maracuja

> wrote:

>

> > Winnie, years ago my holistic dentist said not to use Arnica

> before oral

> > surgery or extractions.

> >

> > .

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am preparing to have surgery myself in 9 days (so I've been MIA from the

list for a bit, lots of things going on lately). My homeopath also

instructed me not to take any arnica before my surgery. A different

homeopath also recommended this before my daughter's oral surgery a couple

of years ago.

They both said arnica can actually increase bleeding during surgery.

They both, however, did say to give arnica by mouth as soon as possible

after surgery, which is what I'm planning on doing.

I guess it's a decision each person has to make for themselves, to take it

or not to take it.

Just my 2 cents.

Kay

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Maybe there's some confusion among some of the surgeons/dentists who are not

familiar with homeopathy and they think the arnica is in cream form--which

is not used topically on open wounds.

It CAN have an effect on the bleeding, a clotting effect, if you will.

That's why you would take it. The less blood in the area, the less pain. But

it gets reduced through healing rather than forcing it to clot. I don't know

if that is a technically correct way of explaining it but...

I've never heard any conflict over this before--very interesting.

Winnie

[Guest guest]

Certainly arnica, when prescribed by a homeopath and taken homeopathically,

should not be problem as it is being used on an energetic level. Perhaps

the crude substance could present a problem with bleeding - it is certainly

contra-indicated on broken skin, but I always thought that was because it

would sting badly.

Like you, Winnie, I've used it before and after dental surgery - it was

superb after a particularly awkward extraction.  Can't imagine why it would

be a problem at all.

Sue x

-- Re: OT: surgery recommendations

Hmm, I took it before getting a root canal, and after. No swelling,

tenderness--nothing. I did it on the advice on a friend who had several oral

surgeries and the same results. My 83-yr-old mother used it before having a

wisdom tooth pulled, too. Plus, another friend has had several surgeries,

one most recently on her neck--very scary! and took it repeatedly before and

after.

I can't imagine why the dentist would suggest not taking it. I'd also be

curious to know.

Winnie

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> Vaccinations

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>

>

> > I am in need of some advice from all the wise people here.

>

> > My mother is going to need a hip replacement after the

> holidays.

>

> > She has needed it for years

>

> > but has a strong fear of doctors (smart lady) and has avoided

>

> > it. But is now only able to walk

>

> > with a cane and getting worse by the week.

>

> > What can she do to prepare for surgery? Are there certain

>

> > vitamins or things she should bone

>

> > up on? I know she will take the antibiotics post surgery but I

>

> > will get her probiotics to work

>

> > on countering that. We are very concerned as she is quite

> obese

>

> > and has high risk of

>

> > complications. Would appreciate any thoughts! I'm not used to

>

> > being the one taking care of

>

> > my parent, quite the role reversal. =)

>

> >

>

> > Melinda C. in Mass.

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> >

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> >

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