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AMEN!

What have I said all along? Cancers can come and

go. If you are tested at a time when it is

present and follow through, what trauma

What if it will go in a few weeks?

Thank you

Sher

At 07:08 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote:

>

>What Doctor's Don't Tell You published a lead

>article on this topic at least four years ago -

>but as always the orthodoxy take so long to

>catch up!! Iirc, their article suggested that

>around 80% of DCIS tumours would self-heal

>without interference.... If this is true, how

>many women have sacrificed their breasts needlessly....?

>

><http://www.wddty.com/03363800372508642313/cancer-when-it-isn-t-a-killer-dcis-p\

recancer-benign-cancer-or-what.html>http://www.wddty.com/03363800372508642313/ca\

ncer-when-it-isn-t-a-killer-dcis-precancer-benign-cancer-or-what.html

>http://www.wddty.com/03363800370428892600/when-it-s-not-cancer-at-all.html

><http://www.wddty.com/03363800372156234904/when-it-isn-t-a-killer.html>http://w\

ww.wddty.com/03363800372156234904/when-it-isn-t-a-killer.html

>http://www.wddty.com/03363800369973073994/breast-cancer-and-now-the-good-news.h\

tml

>

>And there's a lot more for anyone wanting to spend some time browsing...

>

>Sue x

>

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tudy-suggests-some-tumours-may-cure-themselves.html>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/h\

ealth/healthnews/3512316/Breast-cancer-screening-study-suggests-some-tumours-may\

-cure-themselves.html

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>Breast cancer screening study suggests some tumours may cure themselves

>

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>

>

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>Screening women for breast cancer may lead to

>unnecessary treatment as some cancers will

>disappear on their own, researchers have suggested.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>By , Medical Editor

>Last Updated: 8:21PM GMT 24 Nov 2008

>

>Doctors found more cancers amongst women who

>were screened every two years compared to those

>screened once in six years, raising the

>possibility that some cancers vanish on their own.

>

>This means that some women are going through

>painful and upsetting treatment, often involving

>surgery and chemotherapy, for a cancer that

>would have gone away on it own had it not been detected.

>

>The study was carried out using data from

>120,000 women who were screened three times

>between 1996 and 2001 and compared the number of

>cancers detected to those found in 110,000 women

>of the same age who were screened once in six years.

>

>After taking account of various factors that

>could influence rates of breast cancer, they

>found the rate of breast cancer in the

>frequently-screened group remained 22 per cent higher.

>

>Of every 100,000 screened women, 1,909 had

>breast cancer during the six-year period,

>compared with 1,564 of every 100,000 in the

>control group. Screened women were more likely

>to have breast cancer at every age.

>

>The study is published in the Archives of Internal Medicine.

>

>Author Dr Per-Henrik Zahl, of the Norwegian

>Institute of Public Health, Oslo, wrote:

> " Because the cumulative incidence among controls

>never reached that of the screened group, it

>appears that some breast cancers detected by

>repeated mammographic screening would not

>persist to be detectable by a single mammogram at the end of six years.

>

> " This raises the possibility that the natural

>course of some screen-detected invasive breast

>cancers is to spontaneously regress.

>

> " Although many clinicians may be sceptical of

>the idea, the excess incidence associated with

>repeated mammography demands that spontaneous

>regression be considered carefully.

>

> " Spontaneous regression of invasive breast

>cancer has been reported, with a recent

>literature review identifying 32 reported cases.

>This is a relatively small number given such a

>common disease. However, as some observers have

>pointed out, the fact that documented

>observations are rare does not mean that

>regression rarely occurs. It may instead reflect

>the fact that these cancers are rarely allowed

>to follow their natural course. "

>

>Dr Zahl said the findings do not dispute that

>breast screening saves lives. He wrote:

> " Instead, our findings simply provide new

>insight on what is arguably the major harm

>associated with mammographic screening, namely,

>the detection and treatment of cancers that would otherwise regress. "

>

>In an accompanying commentary Dr Kaplan,

>of the University of California, Los Angeles,

>and Dr Franz Porzsolt, of Clincal Economics

>University of Ulm, Germany, said the study is

>not perfect but it has been well conducted and

>raises issues that need further investigation.

>

>They said tumours that cause the patient no ill

>health is well known in prostate and other

>cancers and it is known that some women die with

>a breast cancer tumour but were never diagnosed

>and did not die from the disease.

>

>They wrote: " Despite the appeal of early

>detection of breast cancer, uncertainty about

>the value of mammography continues.

>

> " Perhaps the most important concern raised by

>the study by Zahl et al is that it highlights

>how surprisingly little we know about what

>happens to untreated patients with breast cancer. "

>

>In the UK women aged between 50 and 70 are

>invited for screening every three years at an annual cost of £75m in England.

>

>It was set up in 1988 and so far 19m women have

>been screened and 117,000 cancers detected.

>

>Each year around 45,500 women are diganosed with

>breast cancer along with 300 men. Around 12,300

>women and 70 men die from breast cancer each year.

>

> Winder, Deputy Director of the NHS

>Cancer Screening Programmes said: “In 2002 the

>World Health Organisation’s International Agency

>for Research on Cancer (IARC) concluded that

>mammography screening for breast cancer reduces mortality.

>

>“The UK experience is that long intervals

>between screenings are characterised by large

>numbers of symptomatic cancers, bigger tumours

>and poorer survival rates. Very early breast

>cancer that is still at 'in situ’ stage

>sometimes remains harmless however, in around

>50% of cases it can progress rapidly over a year

>or so and develop into a highly aggressive cancer.

>

>“To help women make an informed choice about

>whether or not to come for breast screening, all

>eligible women now receive a leaflet, 'Breast

>Screening-THE FACTS’ with their invitation. The

>leaflet explains the benefits and limitations of breast screening.”

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Re: [vaccinedangers] OT but very important!! Breast

cancer screening study suggests some tumours may cure themselves

AMEN!

What have I said all along? Cancers can come and

go. If you are tested at a time when it is

present and follow through, what trauma

What if it will go in a few weeks?

Thank you

Sher

At 07:08 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote:

>

>What Doctor's Don't Tell You published a lead

>article on this topic at least four years ago -

>but as always the orthodoxy take so long to

>catch up!! Iirc, their article suggested that

>around 80% of DCIS tumours would self-heal

>without interference.... If this is true, how

>many women have sacrificed their breasts needlessly....?

>

><http://www.wddty.com/03363800372508642313/cancer-when-it-isn-t-a-killer-dcis-p\

recancer-benign-cancer-or-what.html>http://www.wddty.com/03363800372508642313/ca\

ncer-when-it-isn-t-a-killer-dcis-precancer-benign-cancer-or-what.html

>http://www.wddty.com/03363800370428892600/when-it-s-not-cancer-at-all.html

><http://www.wddty.com/03363800372156234904/when-it-isn-t-a-killer.html>http://w\

ww.wddty.com/03363800372156234904/when-it-isn-t-a-killer.html

>http://www.wddty.com/03363800369973073994/breast-cancer-and-now-the-good-news.h\

tml

>

>And there's a lot more for anyone wanting to spend some time browsing...

>

>Sue x

>

>----------------------------------------------------------

>

>

>

><http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/3512316/Breast-cancer-screening-s\

tudy-suggests-some-tumours-may-cure-themselves.html>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/h\

ealth/healthnews/3512316/Breast-cancer-screening-study-suggests-some-tumours-may\

-cure-themselves.html

>

>

>

>

>Breast cancer screening study suggests some tumours may cure themselves

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>Screening women for breast cancer may lead to

>unnecessary treatment as some cancers will

>disappear on their own, researchers have suggested.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>By , Medical Editor

>Last Updated: 8:21PM GMT 24 Nov 2008

>

>Doctors found more cancers amongst women who

>were screened every two years compared to those

>screened once in six years, raising the

>possibility that some cancers vanish on their own.

>

>This means that some women are going through

>painful and upsetting treatment, often involving

>surgery and chemotherapy, for a cancer that

>would have gone away on it own had it not been detected.

>

>The study was carried out using data from

>120,000 women who were screened three times

>between 1996 and 2001 and compared the number of

>cancers detected to those found in 110,000 women

>of the same age who were screened once in six years.

>

>After taking account of various factors that

>could influence rates of breast cancer, they

>found the rate of breast cancer in the

>frequently-screened group remained 22 per cent higher.

>

>Of every 100,000 screened women, 1,909 had

>breast cancer during the six-year period,

>compared with 1,564 of every 100,000 in the

>control group. Screened women were more likely

>to have breast cancer at every age.

>

>The study is published in the Archives of Internal Medicine.

>

>Author Dr Per-Henrik Zahl, of the Norwegian

>Institute of Public Health, Oslo, wrote:

> " Because the cumulative incidence among controls

>never reached that of the screened group, it

>appears that some breast cancers detected by

>repeated mammographic screening would not

>persist to be detectable by a single mammogram at the end of six years.

>

> " This raises the possibility that the natural

>course of some screen-detected invasive breast

>cancers is to spontaneously regress.

>

> " Although many clinicians may be sceptical of

>the idea, the excess incidence associated with

>repeated mammography demands that spontaneous

>regression be considered carefully.

>

> " Spontaneous regression of invasive breast

>cancer has been reported, with a recent

>literature review identifying 32 reported cases.

>This is a relatively small number given such a

>common disease. However, as some observers have

>pointed out, the fact that documented

>observations are rare does not mean that

>regression rarely occurs. It may instead reflect

>the fact that these cancers are rarely allowed

>to follow their natural course. "

>

>Dr Zahl said the findings do not dispute that

>breast screening saves lives. He wrote:

> " Instead, our findings simply provide new

>insight on what is arguably the major harm

>associated with mammographic screening, namely,

>the detection and treatment of cancers that would otherwise regress. "

>

>In an accompanying commentary Dr Kaplan,

>of the University of California, Los Angeles,

>and Dr Franz Porzsolt, of Clincal Economics

>University of Ulm, Germany, said the study is

>not perfect but it has been well conducted and

>raises issues that need further investigation.

>

>They said tumours that cause the patient no ill

>health is well known in prostate and other

>cancers and it is known that some women die with

>a breast cancer tumour but were never diagnosed

>and did not die from the disease.

>

>They wrote: " Despite the appeal of early

>detection of breast cancer, uncertainty about

>the value of mammography continues.

>

> " Perhaps the most important concern raised by

>the study by Zahl et al is that it highlights

>how surprisingly little we know about what

>happens to untreated patients with breast cancer. "

>

>In the UK women aged between 50 and 70 are

>invited for screening every three years at an annual cost of £75m in England.

>

>It was set up in 1988 and so far 19m women have

>been screened and 117,000 cancers detected.

>

>Each year around 45,500 women are diganosed with

>breast cancer along with 300 men. Around 12,300

>women and 70 men die from breast cancer each year.

>

> Winder, Deputy Director of the NHS

>Cancer Screening Programmes said: " In 2002 the

>World Health Organisation's International Agency

>for Research on Cancer (IARC) concluded that

>mammography screening for breast cancer reduces mortality.

>

> " The UK experience is that long intervals

>between screenings are characterised by large

>numbers of symptomatic cancers, bigger tumours

>and poorer survival rates. Very early breast

>cancer that is still at 'in situ' stage

>sometimes remains harmless however, in around

>50% of cases it can progress rapidly over a year

>or so and develop into a highly aggressive cancer.

>

> " To help women make an informed choice about

>whether or not to come for breast screening, all

>eligible women now receive a leaflet, 'Breast

>Screening-THE FACTS' with their invitation. The

>leaflet explains the benefits and limitations of breast screening. "

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