Re: Jim's passion was Re: Amy

[Guest guest]

i second your comment erika (on the marriage proposal too LOL!). i love jim and

am 120% behind every ounce of truth he speaks. we need more of that to wake us

up!

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From: Roberg <trinnea@...>

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Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 4:28:23 AM

Subject: Jim's passion was Re: Amy

Jim,

I do so love your passion, and feel it right along with you. Since

I've had the priviledge of hearing you speak, I can hear your tone and

inflections as I read.... and all I can say is if I wasn't married to

a fantastic man and father, I'd ask you to marry me! LOL

Keep shouting, my friend. If only everyone could feel your passion

for even a second!

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 1:25 AM, Jim O <jimokelly (DOT) com> wrote:

> Arlynn

>

> Sorry, but I don't think I belittled the female gender. If that would have

> been the husband

> I would have said the same. I don't know what part of my post you

> considered " a cheap shot "

> but if not giving advice and giving direction to where to get answers is a

> cheap shot then I am guilty

> as charged. I really don't understand how anyone who is not legally licensed

> can tell somebody to take drugs.

> That is totally wrong. I didn't tell her not to take drugs, I just told her

> and everybody else that drugs are poison.

> I said buy a couple of good books on both sides and make your own decision

> about how to treat the boy. She wasn't talking about vitamin C she was

> talking about drugs. There are only two kinds of people anyone should talk

> to about drugs. One is the drug pusher and the other is a drugless healer.

> Did you noticed I suggested buying a PDR. I have one and I don't have any

> little kids. I can't understand why every parent doesn't have one. My point

> I thought was very clear. Educating oneself is the right thing to do.. With

> all due respect, there is no one on this list who is qualified to prescribe

> drugs. If a person takes their doctor's word then they have to understand if

> something happens to that kid, the doctor won't lose one minute of sleep.

> You folks need to understand. Iatrogenics is the number one killer.. Young

> people today need to hear what us old timers( that's compared to you

> youngsters, I don't really consider myself old. Just using it as a

> reference.) have to say who have been drug(no pun intended) through the

> fire. Whether you realize it or not, this drug/vaccine is in a state of war.

> The establishment is not playing any games. They are playing for keeps. The

> people who know me on this list know I wouldn't put anyone but a pro-vaxer

> down. But I will keep screaming from the top of my lungs that drugs are

> poison. I will take on anyone who thinks drugs have some magical power to

> heal. The short term benefit of feeling better may not be better than the

> long term direct effect of the drug. Anyway I think if you read my response

> again, a little slower, you may realize my shot wasn't cheap, it was simply

> what I would say and did say to my own daughter.

>

> Jim

[Guest guest]

Wow, Arlynn, you have really been through a lot. You are very strong to have

taken care of yourself and your children the way you did when others might have

crumbled. What an inspiration you are!

Winnie

Jim's passion was Re: Amy

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> Just one comment that I certainly have not lived a rosey life,

> that I had my father dead at

> 42yo from heart attack leaving his young wife with 3 young

> children all under the age of

> 8yo and no life insurance, grandmother killed by drunk driver,

> and both of my siblings

> dead from cancer at 18yo and 34yo. I certainly have gained lots

> of experience with

> allopathic medicine and the ER and Bone Marrow Transplant unit

> over the past 25 years.

> My 34yo sister especially, she was supposed to live and they

> killed her. This Wed. was her

> 12 year anniversary of being murdered imo. My dh and I just lost

> our life's savings last

> month in the stock market crash. Our entire retirement savings

> is completely gone for

> good and we have to start over after living frugally for 25

> years, not racking up bills or

> living high on the hog to be able to save for ourselves and our

> children's college and it is

> all gone now, we should have just took more vacations and not

> bothered to save a dime.

> I've been a tad stressed. Life is not all rosey, but I did

> learn from my family what NOT

> to do and who NOT to trust. I cured myself of Hepatitis C 6

> years ago using herbs and

> reading books , after walking out of the doctor's office when

> he told me my only

> option was chemotherapy or die, I chose a different path for

> myself and it was a path of

> wellness. My women friends have alternately thought me nuts and

> genius. I have been

> repeatedly and openly criticized for not vaxing my children and

> understand what a difficult

> battle it is to stand one's ground against the " system " . It's

> just as my kids get older and

> are such great kids, people (including family) start to sit up

> and take notice how great they

> are and start to lay off the criticism. It was with my women's

> circle of friends who were

> supportive of me emotionally (even if not practically) that I

> survived those first few years

> when the twins were born and I did everything " weird " , lol. I co-

> slept, wore the babies,

> dual breastfed extended, no preschool, never vaxed, treat my

> kids as humans and insist

> others treat them as equals too, it was all " weird " to others. :-

> D I didn't care. I was raising

> MY babies the way they seemed to need to be raised. I strongly

> do urge parents to listen

> to what Jim and everyone else is saying about wellness care. Of

> course, Jim, you are right

> about that and the other things that you post about ime. You

> seem genuine and

> knowledgeable and are definitely appreciated! In Peace, Arlynn

>

>

[Guest guest]

We feel your pain.   like All State you are in good hands with this list.

We can only hope we all grow stronger because of

whats happened to us and help to make others stronger.

Jim

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From: " wharrison@... " <wharrison@...>

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Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 9:18:24 PM

Subject: Re: Jim's passion was Re: Amy

Wow, Arlynn, you have really been through a lot. You are very strong to have

taken care of yourself and your children the way you did when others might have

crumbled. What an inspiration you are!

Winnie

Jim's passion was Re: Amy

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> Just one comment that I certainly have not lived a rosey life,

> that I had my father dead at

> 42yo from heart attack leaving his young wife with 3 young

> children all under the age of

> 8yo and no life insurance, grandmother killed by drunk driver,

> and both of my siblings

> dead from cancer at 18yo and 34yo. I certainly have gained lots

> of experience with

> allopathic medicine and the ER and Bone Marrow Transplant unit

> over the past 25 years.

> My 34yo sister especially, she was supposed to live and they

> killed her. This Wed. was her

> 12 year anniversary of being murdered imo. My dh and I just lost

> our life's savings last

> month in the stock market crash. Our entire retirement savings

> is completely gone for

> good and we have to start over after living frugally for 25

> years, not racking up bills or

> living high on the hog to be able to save for ourselves and our

> children's college and it is

> all gone now, we should have just took more vacations and not

> bothered to save a dime.

> I've been a tad stressed. Life is not all rosey, but I did

> learn from my family what NOT

> to do and who NOT to trust. I cured myself of Hepatitis C 6

> years ago using herbs and

> reading books , after walking out of the doctor's office when

> he told me my only

> option was chemotherapy or die, I chose a different path for

> myself and it was a path of

> wellness.. My women friends have alternately thought me nuts and

> genius. I have been

> repeatedly and openly criticized for not vaxing my children and

> understand what a difficult

> battle it is to stand one's ground against the " system " . It's

> just as my kids get older and

> are such great kids, people (including family) start to sit up

> and take notice how great they

> are and start to lay off the criticism. It was with my women's

> circle of friends who were

> supportive of me emotionally (even if not practically) that I

> survived those first few years

> when the twins were born and I did everything " weird " , lol. I co-

> slept, wore the babies,

> dual breastfed extended, no preschool, never vaxed, treat my

> kids as humans and insist

> others treat them as equals too, it was all " weird " to others. :-

> D I didn't care. I was raising

> MY babies the way they seemed to need to be raised. I strongly

> do urge parents to listen

> to what Jim and everyone else is saying about wellness care. Of

> course, Jim, you are right

> about that and the other things that you post about ime. You

> seem genuine and

> knowledgeable and are definitely appreciated! In Peace, Arlynn

>

>