Re: Persecution of Innocent, Non-Vaxed Boy

November 28, 2008

Sheri B. If you can send my message to that lady , please

do, \

\

It takes a lot of guts to stand up and face these

jerks when they put

the pressure on. I know I have been there. If I wore a hat I would take it

off to you.

I love your remark about the outbreak of hysteria and stupidity. A good well

placed kick

would have been ok too. These people need to understand some of us aren't mealy

mouths, we are mad as hell and we aren't going to take their stupidity any

longer. By the way I had hooping cough when I was seven or eight. My Mother sent

me to bed. I stayed in bed and coughed myself well. What they did to you is part

of their game plan to gang up on us, no-vaxers. They are now and always have

been bullys and cowards. I know how tough it is, but stand your ground. The

truth will win in the end. If there is anyone on this list in your state,

maybe they would be willing to write a letter in support of you.

Jim

________________________________

From: Sheri B. <tallchick1966@...>

Group Group <vaccinations >

Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 8:06:38 PM

Subject: Persecution of Innocent, Non-Vaxed Boy

This was on my sister's chelation web group. Not sure if it took place in NC or

not (we are in NC) but there is a County here and I've heard there is an

" outbreak " of whooping cough, so it might be in our state.

I have been mad about this all day long!!

Sheri B.

" Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

I thought I would share my experience this week with 's school.

Monday, around lunchtime, I ran in to a store to grab some votive

candles. I was in the store for less than 5 minutes. I come back

out and my cell phone is buzzing. I have three messages.

The first one is from a woman at the Health Department. She says her

name, she needs to talk to me immediately about my son, Black.

The next message is from County Schools, the person needs to

speak with me immediately about my son. The school nurse is the

third call needing me immediately. I get in my car and start driving

to the school. My heart is pounding. I'm dialing these people back,

NO one is at their desk, yet they had just called me minutes before.

I call the school and ask the secretary if is okay or if

something has horribly gone wrong. She said was sitting in

the office and to hold on. The school nurse gets on the phone.

She tells me that some child in 's class has whooping cough.

is " undervaccinated " and he has to be out of school for 21

days. He has to leave the premisis immediately. I said I would be

right there.

By the time I get there, the head person for County Schools is

also at the school. is sitting in the office. We go into

another room. They start questioning me about 's vaccinations,

why didn't he get his boosters at kindergarten. I told them we had a

religious exemption and if she had any further questions, she could

ask my attorney. She goes on to say that we are putting other

children at risk by not vaccinating . I asked if the child

that had whooping cough had been vaccinated and she said " yes " .

She says that there has been an " outbreak " of whooping cough in

County (I think right now it is less than 10). I asked if all the

children that have come down with whooping cough are vaccinated, and

again, she said " yes " . So, I asked if all the other children in

's class would have to go home for 21 days, since the

vaccinated children seemed to be at risk as well. You know the

answer...no, because they got their shots. The woman with

County Schools says they were seeing the " outbreak " happening with

mostly 5th graders, so that must have been a bad batch that year.

They put me on the phone with the woman at the Health Department.

She explains to me when there is an outbreak or epidemic, they have

jurisdiction over County Schools. would have to be out

of school for 21 days. She wanted to know what pharmacy we used,

because she was calling in an antibiotic for that he was to

start immediately. I said she would not be calling in an antibiotic,

she was not his doctor, he is highly allergic to two antibiotics and

I would take him to his pediatrian. She informs me that his ped

needed to follow the guidelines set forth by the CDC and the AAP. In

addition, if started the antibiotic, he still would not be

allowed to return to school for 21 days.

At this point, I want to scream. The County School person

says to me that she understands my " theory " of not wanting to

vaccinate . I saw colors in my head. I leaned across the desk

and my hands were clenched. I kept thinking... " don't hit her. " I

said, " Theory? I watched start screaming, breaking out in a

105 fever, rash all over his body two days after his 18 month DTaP

shot. We took him to the hospital. No one knew what was wrong. He

then lost all his words, quit looking at us and the lights went out

in his eyes. Theory? I watched it happen. Don't talk to me about

theory. I've spent every day since then fighting, scratching and

clawing to get my son back from that hell hole that he slipped in to. "

The woman was stunned. I wanted to scream, throw myself on the floor

and kick anything that got in the way. There's something to be said

about throwing a tempertantrum for cleansing purposes.

So, here's the kicker.. The child that has whooping cough actually

had been diagnosed a week ago Wednesday. (His mother sent him right

back to school. You can't fix stupid) His doctor had put him on an

antibiotic for 5 days, after which you aren't contagious anymore.

He was at school every day last week, plus Monday and Tuesday of this

week. HE NEVER MISSED A DAY OF SCHOOL and won't. My son, doesn't

have it at all, and isn't allowed to come back for 21 days.

What I am most pissed about is that the school nurse went down to the

lunchroom, pulled out in front of all the kids, took him down

to the music room and told him because he didn't have all his shots,

he would have to miss 21 days of school. She marched him down to his

room, got his bookbag from the sidewalk, and then marched him back

down to the office where he stayed until we left. He was treated

like he WAS the virus. He isn't sick. He had sat in a room with the

child for weeks while he was contagious. Would two more hours have

made a difference? Couldn't he have finished the day and not be drug

out of the lunchroom.. was so upset...he wanted to stay and

take his spelling test. He will also miss his Christmas program.

Just in case any of this happens to you all, you might want to be

aware of what our friends at the CDC and Health Department are doing.

Our pediatrician felt like he was being made an example of because he

didn't have his kindergarten boosters. The incubation period is 5-10

days for whooping cough. In some rare instances, it has been as much

as 21 days. AND, taking an antibiotic won't keep you from getting

whooping cough, it will only make you non contagious after you come

down with the symptoms. I have the prescription, and should he come

down with symptoms, then I will give him the antibiotic.

The reason no one was at their desk was because they were setting up

crisis phone banks. PHONE BANKS. For one child at our school. I

told the woman that the only thing I saw there was an outbreak of was

hysteria and stupidity. I don't think she'll be sending me a

Christmas card.

I hope you all have a very happy holiday. I am thankful does

not have whooping cough and that he is undervaccinated, he's talking

and arguing with me like a 5th grader, he looks at me in the eye when

he's arguing with me and he is just the love of our lives. "

www.shaklee. net/simplevitali ty

Creating healthier lives for over 52 years

Sharing Shaklee for the health of it!

November 29, 2008

This is terrible. You should be able to sue the school for abuse.

They should send a tutor home because every child is entitled to an

education. It seems that the sick children are allowed to stay in

school and the health ones have to go home.

>

> Sheri B. If you can send my message to that lady , please

do,

It takes a lot of

guts to stand up and face these jerks when they put

> the pressure on. I know I have been there. If I wore a hat I would

take it off to you.

> I love your remark about the outbreak of hysteria and stupidity. A

good well placed kick

> would have been ok too. These people need to understand some of us

aren't mealy mouths, we are mad as hell and we aren't going to take

their stupidity any longer. By the way I had hooping cough when I was

seven or eight. My Mother sent me to bed. I stayed in bed and coughed

myself well. What they did to you is part of their game plan to gang

up on us, no-vaxers. They are now and always have been bullys and

cowards. I know how tough it is, but stand your ground. The truth

will win in the end. If there is anyone on this list in your state,

maybe they would be willing to write a letter in support of you.

>

> Jim

>

> ________________________________

> From: Sheri B. <tallchick1966@...>

> Group Group <vaccinations >

> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 8:06:38 PM

> Subject: Persecution of Innocent, Non-Vaxed Boy

>

> This was on my sister's chelation web group. Not sure if it took

place in NC or not (we are in NC) but there is a County here

and I've heard there is an " outbreak " of whooping cough, so it might

be in our state.

>

> I have been mad about this all day long!!

> Sheri B.

>

> " Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

>

> I thought I would share my experience this week with 's

school.

> Monday, around lunchtime, I ran in to a store to grab some votive

> candles. I was in the store for less than 5 minutes. I come back

> out and my cell phone is buzzing. I have three messages.

>

> The first one is from a woman at the Health Department. She says

her

> name, she needs to talk to me immediately about my son,

Black.

> The next message is from County Schools, the person needs to

> speak with me immediately about my son. The school nurse is the

> third call needing me immediately. I get in my car and start

driving

> to the school. My heart is pounding. I'm dialing these people back,

> NO one is at their desk, yet they had just called me minutes

before.

>

> I call the school and ask the secretary if is okay or if

> something has horribly gone wrong. She said was sitting in

> the office and to hold on. The school nurse gets on the phone.

>

> She tells me that some child in 's class has whooping cough.

> is " undervaccinated " and he has to be out of school for 21

> days. He has to leave the premisis immediately. I said I would be

> right there.

>

> By the time I get there, the head person for County Schools

is

> also at the school. is sitting in the office. We go into

> another room. They start questioning me about 's

vaccinations,

> why didn't he get his boosters at kindergarten. I told them we had

a

> religious exemption and if she had any further questions, she could

> ask my attorney. She goes on to say that we are putting other

> children at risk by not vaccinating . I asked if the child

> that had whooping cough had been vaccinated and she said " yes " .

>

> She says that there has been an " outbreak " of whooping cough in

> County (I think right now it is less than 10). I asked if all the

> children that have come down with whooping cough are vaccinated,

and

> again, she said " yes " . So, I asked if all the other children in

> 's class would have to go home for 21 days, since the

> vaccinated children seemed to be at risk as well. You know the

> answer...no, because they got their shots. The woman with

> County Schools says they were seeing the " outbreak " happening with

> mostly 5th graders, so that must have been a bad batch that year.

>

> They put me on the phone with the woman at the Health Department.

> She explains to me when there is an outbreak or epidemic, they have

> jurisdiction over County Schools. would have to be out

> of school for 21 days. She wanted to know what pharmacy we used,

> because she was calling in an antibiotic for that he was to

> start immediately. I said she would not be calling in an

antibiotic,

> she was not his doctor, he is highly allergic to two antibiotics

and

> I would take him to his pediatrian. She informs me that his ped

> needed to follow the guidelines set forth by the CDC and the AAP.

In

> addition, if started the antibiotic, he still would not be

> allowed to return to school for 21 days.

>

> At this point, I want to scream. The County School person

> says to me that she understands my " theory " of not wanting to

> vaccinate . I saw colors in my head. I leaned across the desk

> and my hands were clenched. I kept thinking... " don't hit her. " I

> said, " Theory? I watched start screaming, breaking out in a

> 105 fever, rash all over his body two days after his 18 month DTaP

> shot. We took him to the hospital. No one knew what was wrong. He

> then lost all his words, quit looking at us and the lights went out

> in his eyes. Theory? I watched it happen. Don't talk to me about

> theory. I've spent every day since then fighting, scratching and

> clawing to get my son back from that hell hole that he slipped in

to. "

>

> The woman was stunned. I wanted to scream, throw myself on the

floor

> and kick anything that got in the way. There's something to be said

> about throwing a tempertantrum for cleansing purposes.

>

> So, here's the kicker.. The child that has whooping cough actually

> had been diagnosed a week ago Wednesday. (His mother sent him right

> back to school. You can't fix stupid) His doctor had put him on an

> antibiotic for 5 days, after which you aren't contagious anymore.

> He was at school every day last week, plus Monday and Tuesday of

this

> week. HE NEVER MISSED A DAY OF SCHOOL and won't. My son, doesn't

> have it at all, and isn't allowed to come back for 21 days.

>

> What I am most pissed about is that the school nurse went down to

the

> lunchroom, pulled out in front of all the kids, took him

down

> to the music room and told him because he didn't have all his

shots,

> he would have to miss 21 days of school. She marched him down to

his

> room, got his bookbag from the sidewalk, and then marched him back

> down to the office where he stayed until we left. He was treated

> like he WAS the virus. He isn't sick. He had sat in a room with the

> child for weeks while he was contagious. Would two more hours have

> made a difference? Couldn't he have finished the day and not be

drug

> out of the lunchroom.. was so upset...he wanted to stay and

> take his spelling test. He will also miss his Christmas program.

>

> Just in case any of this happens to you all, you might want to be

> aware of what our friends at the CDC and Health Department are

doing.

> Our pediatrician felt like he was being made an example of because

he

> didn't have his kindergarten boosters. The incubation period is 5-

10

> days for whooping cough. In some rare instances, it has been as

much

> as 21 days. AND, taking an antibiotic won't keep you from getting

> whooping cough, it will only make you non contagious after you come

> down with the symptoms. I have the prescription, and should he come

> down with symptoms, then I will give him the antibiotic.

>

> The reason no one was at their desk was because they were setting

up

> crisis phone banks. PHONE BANKS. For one child at our school. I

> told the woman that the only thing I saw there was an outbreak of

was

> hysteria and stupidity. I don't think she'll be sending me a

> Christmas card.

>

> I hope you all have a very happy holiday. I am thankful does

> not have whooping cough and that he is undervaccinated, he's

talking

> and arguing with me like a 5th grader, he looks at me in the eye

when

> he's arguing with me and he is just the love of our lives. "

>

> www.shaklee. net/simplevitali ty

> Creating healthier lives for over 52 years

> Sharing Shaklee for the health of it!

>

November 29, 2008

Right, everything is opposite to what makes sense here. Aside from

that, I would ask how they expect education to continue as well, since

the state allows you to take an exemption & therefore should have

contingencies.

Liz

> >

> > Sheri B. If you can send my message to that lady , please

> do,

>

> It takes a lot of

> guts to stand up and face these jerks when they put

> > the pressure on. I know I have been there. If I wore a hat I would

> take it off to you.

> > I love your remark about the outbreak of hysteria and stupidity. A

> good well placed kick

> > would have been ok too. These people need to understand some of us

> aren't mealy mouths, we are mad as hell and we aren't going to take

> their stupidity any longer. By the way I had hooping cough when I was

> seven or eight. My Mother sent me to bed. I stayed in bed and coughed

> myself well. What they did to you is part of their game plan to gang

> up on us, no-vaxers. They are now and always have been bullys and

> cowards. I know how tough it is, but stand your ground. The truth

> will win in the end. If there is anyone on this list in your state,

> maybe they would be willing to write a letter in support of you.

> >

> > Jim

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Sheri B. <tallchick1966@>

> > Group Group <vaccinations >

> > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 8:06:38 PM

> > Subject: Persecution of Innocent, Non-Vaxed Boy

> >

> > This was on my sister's chelation web group. Not sure if it took

> place in NC or not (we are in NC) but there is a County here

> and I've heard there is an " outbreak " of whooping cough, so it might

> be in our state.

> >

> > I have been mad about this all day long!!

> > Sheri B.

> >

> > " Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

> >

> > I thought I would share my experience this week with 's

> school.

> > Monday, around lunchtime, I ran in to a store to grab some votive

> > candles. I was in the store for less than 5 minutes. I come back

> > out and my cell phone is buzzing. I have three messages.

> >

> > The first one is from a woman at the Health Department. She says

> her

> > name, she needs to talk to me immediately about my son,

> Black.

> > The next message is from County Schools, the person needs to

> > speak with me immediately about my son. The school nurse is the

> > third call needing me immediately. I get in my car and start

> driving

> > to the school. My heart is pounding. I'm dialing these people back,

> > NO one is at their desk, yet they had just called me minutes

> before.

> >

> > I call the school and ask the secretary if is okay or if

> > something has horribly gone wrong. She said was sitting in

> > the office and to hold on. The school nurse gets on the phone.

> >

> > She tells me that some child in 's class has whooping cough.

> > is " undervaccinated " and he has to be out of school for 21

> > days. He has to leave the premisis immediately. I said I would be

> > right there.

> >

> > By the time I get there, the head person for County Schools

> is

> > also at the school. is sitting in the office. We go into

> > another room. They start questioning me about 's

> vaccinations,

> > why didn't he get his boosters at kindergarten. I told them we had

> a

> > religious exemption and if she had any further questions, she could

> > ask my attorney. She goes on to say that we are putting other

> > children at risk by not vaccinating . I asked if the child

> > that had whooping cough had been vaccinated and she said " yes " .

> >

> > She says that there has been an " outbreak " of whooping cough in

>

> > County (I think right now it is less than 10). I asked if all the

> > children that have come down with whooping cough are vaccinated,

> and

> > again, she said " yes " . So, I asked if all the other children in

> > 's class would have to go home for 21 days, since the

> > vaccinated children seemed to be at risk as well. You know the

> > answer...no, because they got their shots. The woman with

> > County Schools says they were seeing the " outbreak " happening with

> > mostly 5th graders, so that must have been a bad batch that year.

> >

> > They put me on the phone with the woman at the Health Department.

> > She explains to me when there is an outbreak or epidemic, they have

> > jurisdiction over County Schools. would have to be out

> > of school for 21 days. She wanted to know what pharmacy we used,

> > because she was calling in an antibiotic for that he was to

> > start immediately. I said she would not be calling in an

> antibiotic,

> > she was not his doctor, he is highly allergic to two antibiotics

> and

> > I would take him to his pediatrian. She informs me that his ped

> > needed to follow the guidelines set forth by the CDC and the AAP.

> In

> > addition, if started the antibiotic, he still would not be

> > allowed to return to school for 21 days.

> >

> > At this point, I want to scream. The County School person

> > says to me that she understands my " theory " of not wanting to

> > vaccinate . I saw colors in my head. I leaned across the desk

> > and my hands were clenched. I kept thinking... " don't hit her. " I

> > said, " Theory? I watched start screaming, breaking out in a

> > 105 fever, rash all over his body two days after his 18 month DTaP

> > shot. We took him to the hospital. No one knew what was wrong. He

> > then lost all his words, quit looking at us and the lights went out

> > in his eyes. Theory? I watched it happen. Don't talk to me about

> > theory. I've spent every day since then fighting, scratching and

> > clawing to get my son back from that hell hole that he slipped in

> to. "

> >

> > The woman was stunned. I wanted to scream, throw myself on the

> floor

> > and kick anything that got in the way. There's something to be said

> > about throwing a tempertantrum for cleansing purposes.

> >

> > So, here's the kicker.. The child that has whooping cough actually

> > had been diagnosed a week ago Wednesday. (His mother sent him right

> > back to school. You can't fix stupid) His doctor had put him on an

> > antibiotic for 5 days, after which you aren't contagious anymore.

> > He was at school every day last week, plus Monday and Tuesday of

> this

> > week. HE NEVER MISSED A DAY OF SCHOOL and won't. My son, doesn't

> > have it at all, and isn't allowed to come back for 21 days.

> >

> > What I am most pissed about is that the school nurse went down to

> the

> > lunchroom, pulled out in front of all the kids, took him

> down

> > to the music room and told him because he didn't have all his

> shots,

> > he would have to miss 21 days of school. She marched him down to

> his

> > room, got his bookbag from the sidewalk, and then marched him back

> > down to the office where he stayed until we left. He was treated

> > like he WAS the virus. He isn't sick. He had sat in a room with the

> > child for weeks while he was contagious. Would two more hours have

> > made a difference? Couldn't he have finished the day and not be

> drug

> > out of the lunchroom.. was so upset...he wanted to stay and

> > take his spelling test. He will also miss his Christmas program.

> >

> > Just in case any of this happens to you all, you might want to be

> > aware of what our friends at the CDC and Health Department are

> doing.

> > Our pediatrician felt like he was being made an example of because

> he

> > didn't have his kindergarten boosters. The incubation period is 5-

> 10

> > days for whooping cough. In some rare instances, it has been as

> much

> > as 21 days. AND, taking an antibiotic won't keep you from getting

> > whooping cough, it will only make you non contagious after you come

> > down with the symptoms. I have the prescription, and should he come

> > down with symptoms, then I will give him the antibiotic.

> >

> > The reason no one was at their desk was because they were setting

> up

> > crisis phone banks. PHONE BANKS. For one child at our school. I

> > told the woman that the only thing I saw there was an outbreak of

> was

> > hysteria and stupidity. I don't think she'll be sending me a

> > Christmas card.

> >

> > I hope you all have a very happy holiday. I am thankful does

> > not have whooping cough and that he is undervaccinated, he's

> talking

> > and arguing with me like a 5th grader, he looks at me in the eye

> when

> > he's arguing with me and he is just the love of our lives. "

> >

> > www.shaklee. net/simplevitali ty

> > Creating healthier lives for over 52 years

> > Sharing Shaklee for the health of it!

> >

December 1, 2008

Hi Sheri,

I was screaming at my laptop after I read your message. What an awful

thing to do to !! It just makes absolutely no sense to send a

healthy child home. Do they believe he infected those children? Why

can't they not see what's plain: the vaccine didn't work !!!!

All the best to you and your boy,

Magda

December 1, 2008

This is exactly the kind of thing I fear will happen to my children

as they grow up being unvaxed. Unfortunately, my husband is one of

the administrators at their school so we will have to tread lightly

if they start acting like idiots over these " outbreaks "