Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Thanks , I will look over your site again for more info on Africa and AIDS. And also AIDS in the the U.S. seems to prefer African Americans over whites...never understood that one. I used to know many men and women who have had unprotected sex with many partners, some even over the hundred mark and never gotten any type of STD. I guess so much money is to be made off of AIDS, especially when they come out with a vaccine, which will then no doubt wipe out AIDS. Shortly after that some new virus will be " discovered " and it will start all over. All the while, children in the world will still be starving and dying. Your red aids ribbon comment made me think of when I was in a grocery store a while back and saw a whole bunch of pink dyed hydrogenated grease covered boxes of cupcakes all carrying the pink ribbon. So hmm...if you buy those cupcakes they donate money to cancer research...but if you eat the cupcakes you give yourself cancer...oh the irony. Vida > > I thought I had enough on HIV/AIDS, pretty simple hoax to unravel. I do have a small page on africa http://whale.to/a/africa_aids_a.html Pretty clever virus to pick out gay people here and heterosexuals in Africa. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Have you read the book, " Inventing the aids virus " , by Prof. Duesburg? ________________________________ From: Vida Khan <vidamarino@...> Vaccinations Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 3:14:10 PM Subject: Re: intro?/AIDS Thanks , I will look over your site again for more info on Africa and AIDS.. And also AIDS in the the U.S. seems to prefer African Americans over whites...never understood that one. I used to know many men and women who have had unprotected sex with many partners, some even over the hundred mark and never gotten any type of STD. I guess so much money is to be made off of AIDS, especially when they come out with a vaccine, which will then no doubt wipe out AIDS. Shortly after that some new virus will be " discovered " and it will start all over. All the while, children in the world will still be starving and dying. Your red aids ribbon comment made me think of when I was in a grocery store a while back and saw a whole bunch of pink dyed hydrogenated grease covered boxes of cupcakes all carrying the pink ribbon. So hmm...if you buy those cupcakes they donate money to cancer research...but if you eat the cupcakes you give yourself cancer...oh the irony. Vida > > I thought I had enough on HIV/AIDS, pretty simple hoax to unravel. I do have a small page on africa http://whale. to/a/africa_ aids_a.html Pretty clever virus to pick out gay people here and heterosexuals in Africa. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Dunno if you mean me, but have all these http://whale.to/v/books5.html except virus mania. And have yet to read this one properly http://whale.to/a/roberts_b.html Interesting bit about that duesberg for me was how they invented the hepatitis C virus and test john Re: intro?/AIDS Thanks , I will look over your site again for more info on Africa and AIDS.. And also AIDS in the the U.S. seems to prefer African Americans over whites...never understood that one. I used to know many men and women who have had unprotected sex with many partners, some even over the hundred mark and never gotten any type of STD. I guess so much money is to be made off of AIDS, especially when they come out with a vaccine, which will then no doubt wipe out AIDS. Shortly after that some new virus will be " discovered " and it will start all over. All the while, children in the world will still be starving and dying. Your red aids ribbon comment made me think of when I was in a grocery store a while back and saw a whole bunch of pink dyed hydrogenated grease covered boxes of cupcakes all carrying the pink ribbon. So hmm...if you buy those cupcakes they donate money to cancer research...but if you eat the cupcakes you give yourself cancer...oh the irony. Vida > > I thought I had enough on HIV/AIDS, pretty simple hoax to unravel. I do have a small page on africa http://whale. to/a/africa_ aids_a.html Pretty clever virus to pick out gay people here and heterosexuals in Africa. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 exactly and much on my webpages http://www.wellwithin1.com/AIDS.htm and Janine 's incredible book <http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com>www.fearoftheinvisible.com see below Sheri listowner *********** INCREDIBLE new book by Janine - just finished it - met up with her in September (she lives just 90 minutes from me in the UK) Fear of the Invisible book on Polio and AIDS and HIV (and makes you question all the other things blamed on 'viruses', ie measles, mumps, chickenpox, rubella, flu, etc) She goes into great detail on the actual lies about polio to include how the vaccine is made and how NEVER proved to be infectious (some of Jim West's great info here and credited to him and his pages) Viruses NOT what you have been taught that they are Produced by our own bodies to do a job! And then she goes on into HIV and AIDS and the insanity of this link - NEVER proven.........money and ego driven..........you will be sickened even more than you may already be now The lives that have been lost or damaged due to the lies about Polio and the lies about HIV and AIDS I highly recommend this if you want to know how virology has NOT A CLUE about what they want you to believe they know so much about The lunatics are in charge of the asylum for sure Sheri Link to book in the US <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0955917727/wellwithinA/>http://www.amazo\ n.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0955917727/wellwithinA/ Link to book in the UK <http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0955917727/wellwithin-21/202-2017433-6\ 2>http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0955917727/wellwithin-21/202-2017433-\ 62 13405 How scared should we be of viruses and vaccines, HIV and AIDS? Fear_of_invisible_back_cover_150x225.jpg Fear of the Invisible by Janine isbn 0955917727, amazon.com An Investigative Journey into a reckless and contaminated Medical Industry This book takes its readers on a journey into the very heart of the hunt for viruses – to the key experiments performed to prove that these innvisibly small particles cause diseases that often were previously blamed on toxins or bacteria. It sheds light on the extraordinary assumptions underlying much of this research into viruses – and the resulting vaccinees and antiviral medicines. The author, an investigative journalist who researched and produced investigative films for the BBC, American and Australian television, was asked by parents with children severely ill after vaccination to discover if the medical authorities were hiding anything from them. She agreed, but had no idea how long this search would take or how it would change her ideas. She expected at best to uncover a small degree of contamination. On the ensuing decade-long journey of discovery, she found top government scientists report alarmingly, at meetings between scientists, that it is impossible to purify vaccines. They stated that the childhood vaccines of today are contaminated with viruses from chickens, humans and monkeys, with RNA and DNA fragments, with " cellular degradation products, " and possibly " oncogenes and prions. " They say they dare not tell the pubic about all this contamination - as they might demand a withdrawal of the vaccines. Thus the public is not told despite all the consequences of such contamination for long-term public health. A US court decision in 2008 has linked autism with vaccine contamination. The author cites her sources by name – and gives references and IInternet links where they are available. There is much research here that has not been reported elsewhere. She reveals, for example, that the World Health Organization (WHO) knows the MMR vaccine is contaminated with chicken leukosis virus, yet has decided not to tell the public and to continue to make the vaccine with eggs from contaminated chickens. She doubts the accuracy of their research, as it is based on discovering an enzyme, RT, not a virus, but they believe it is very dangerous to chickens and potentially to children. They stay silent because to confess this would reveal that they cannot purify the vaccines given to our children. She reports US biowarfare researchers tried to create new agents to destroy human immune systems – and reported working on a bacterium to makee it a hospital superbug. Did they manage to create HIV? She thought it unlikely as military personnel were not AIDS first victims. Besides there was a more likely alternative. A senior professor told her the vaccine program was so contaminated and chimps were used in vaccine manufacturing so widely, that HIV could easily have spread in a vaccine without any need for military intervention. She then set out to find why HIV spread so far and so fast. Was it in a vaccine? She needed to know more about HIV so went to the foundation research widely held today to have found this virus and proved it caused AIDS. She was then rocked to discover that this key HIV research was investigated for scientific fraud by powerful US scientific institutions and by Congress. Why is this not widely known? These reported major errors in this research, with some errors so serious that the inquiries said they made it impossible to repeat these experiments and verify them! She reveals the evidence unearthed – reproducing key documents so the reader can assess themm for themselves. This is explosive material. She then finds the faults in researching HIV apply also to other viruses. She goes to the key experiments and can find none in which pure samples of viruses were produced and proved to cause particular human diseases. If they cannot purify viruses for use in vaccines, they cannot produce the pure cultures needed to link with certitude viruses with diseases. The book discusses in detail the attack on the Perth group in an Australian court in 2007. During this many HIV experts said again and again - 'but we don't isolate other viruses. `it is not only HIV that we do not isolate.' They described how they produced the flu and measles virus. The author shows how measles virus is produced according to the latest CDC guidelines. it is as strange as anything done with HIV. At no point is the virus actually detected and identified. A major part of the book takes its readers on a journey through various aspects of HIV theory, such as sexual transmission, the different clinical definitions of AIDS, why AIDS is said to be caused by HIV and at the same time is said to happen in the absence of HIV, and why the HIV test picks up on different diseases in the West and in Africa. In the final part of this book the author reports recent research that is revolutionizing biology and offering much hope for the future. These new developments shed new light on the relationships between our cells and viruses. They are not necessarily enemies. Readers may find these new developments will radically change the ideas they have held about viruses all their lives. The preface is contributed by Dr o Giraldo. The book has hundreds of scientific references, a scientific glossary and an index. <http://www.rethinkingaids.com/tabid/122/Default.aspx>http://www.rethinkingaids.\ com/tabid/122/Default.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Also keep in mind. The word virus literally means poison. They took a boy who they said died of polio(their treatment probably killed the boy) ground up his spinal cord, added some poisons, made a liquid like soup and injected that s--t into the brain of a monkey. When the monkey became paralyzed they said what caused the paralysis was not the liquid poison they injected into the monkeys brain, but a tiny living entity they couldn't see. The whole thing was a lie and con game, and the major players knew it. The biggest lie is the so-called live virus. What really was live was the cells of the host they put the poison liquid in, like the monkey kidney cell tissue. If anyone knows a scientist one of my questions is, can you grow a kidney cell after it has been minced up.I haven't read her book , but I will see if I can get a copy today. As far as proof goes the enstein undertakers or F.U. group have NEVER provided proof that vaccines prevent disease or drugs assist the human body to get well. Vaccine disease prevention is just a CONCLUSION and when you take a drug(antibiotic) (against life ) it just like any other drug, it makes you feel good while your body does the healing. Witness the epidemic of teens swiping their parents drugs out of the medicine cabinet just to feel good. Here is a line from the book " Viruses " taken from the first chapter which ask the question, are viruses living? " Scientists know exactly where viruses stand with respect to living things: they are living-and they are not. As Sheri said the lunatics have been running the asylum, and the drug company's have been making a fortune ever since they found out they could fool the public. And if its true that viruses are in the body to do its decomposing of waste or dying , or diseased cells which I have read before, that would make since to me. Just like the decomposers that eat up the animals that die of natural causes. The truth is coming out and will set you free, free from the lies they inject into our minds in order to make their blood money. Jim O' Founder of S.I.N.B.A.D Shots in bodies are dangerous, and drugs too(meds) ________________________________ From: Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> Vaccinations Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 9:25:10 AM Subject: Re: Re: intro?/AIDS exactly and much on my webpages http://www.wellwith in1.com/AIDS. htm and Janine 's incredible book <http://www.fearofth einvisible. com>www.fearoftheinvis ible.com see below Sheri listowner *********** INCREDIBLE new book by Janine - just finished it - met up with her in September (she lives just 90 minutes from me in the UK) Fear of the Invisible book on Polio and AIDS and HIV (and makes you question all the other things blamed on 'viruses', ie measles, mumps, chickenpox, rubella, flu, etc) She goes into great detail on the actual lies about polio to include how the vaccine is made and how NEVER proved to be infectious (some of Jim West's great info here and credited to him and his pages) Viruses NOT what you have been taught that they are Produced by our own bodies to do a job! And then she goes on into HIV and AIDS and the insanity of this link - NEVER proven....... ...money and ego driven...... ....you will be sickened even more than you may already be now The lives that have been lost or damaged due to the lies about Polio and the lies about HIV and AIDS I highly recommend this if you want to know how virology has NOT A CLUE about what they want you to believe they know so much about The lunatics are in charge of the asylum for sure Sheri Link to book in the US <http://www.amazon. com/exec/ obidos/ISBN= 0955917727/ wellwithinA/>http://www.amazon. com/exec/ obidos/ISBN= 0955917727/ wellwithinA/ Link to book in the UK <http://www.amazon. co.uk/exec/ obidos/ASIN/ 0955917727/ wellwithin- 21/202-2017433- 62>http://www.amazon. co.uk/exec/ obidos/ASIN/ 0955917727/ wellwithin- 21/202-2017433- 62 13405 How scared should we be of viruses and vaccines, HIV and AIDS? Fear_of_invisible_ back_cover_ 150x225.jpg Fear of the Invisible by Janine isbn 0955917727, amazon.com An Investigative Journey into a reckless and contaminated Medical Industry This book takes its readers on a journey into the very heart of the hunt for viruses – to the key experiments performed to prove that these innvisibly small particles cause diseases that often were previously blamed on toxins or bacteria. It sheds light on the extraordinary assumptions underlying much of this research into viruses – and the resulting vaccinees and antiviral medicines. The author, an investigative journalist who researched and produced investigative films for the BBC, American and Australian television, was asked by parents with children severely ill after vaccination to discover if the medical authorities were hiding anything from them. She agreed, but had no idea how long this search would take or how it would change her ideas. She expected at best to uncover a small degree of contamination. On the ensuing decade-long journey of discovery, she found top government scientists report alarmingly, at meetings between scientists, that it is impossible to purify vaccines. They stated that the childhood vaccines of today are contaminated with viruses from chickens, humans and monkeys, with RNA and DNA fragments, with " cellular degradation products, " and possibly " oncogenes and prions. " They say they dare not tell the pubic about all this contamination - as they might demand a withdrawal of the vaccines. Thus the public is not told despite all the consequences of such contamination for long-term public health. A US court decision in 2008 has linked autism with vaccine contamination. The author cites her sources by name – and gives references and IInternet links where they are available. There is much research here that has not been reported elsewhere. She reveals, for example, that the World Health Organization (WHO) knows the MMR vaccine is contaminated with chicken leukosis virus, yet has decided not to tell the public and to continue to make the vaccine with eggs from contaminated chickens. She doubts the accuracy of their research, as it is based on discovering an enzyme, RT, not a virus, but they believe it is very dangerous to chickens and potentially to children. They stay silent because to confess this would reveal that they cannot purify the vaccines given to our children. She reports US biowarfare researchers tried to create new agents to destroy human immune systems – and reported working on a bacterium to makee it a hospital superbug. Did they manage to create HIV? She thought it unlikely as military personnel were not AIDS first victims. Besides there was a more likely alternative. A senior professor told her the vaccine program was so contaminated and chimps were used in vaccine manufacturing so widely, that HIV could easily have spread in a vaccine without any need for military intervention. She then set out to find why HIV spread so far and so fast. Was it in a vaccine? She needed to know more about HIV so went to the foundation research widely held today to have found this virus and proved it caused AIDS. She was then rocked to discover that this key HIV research was investigated for scientific fraud by powerful US scientific institutions and by Congress. Why is this not widely known? These reported major errors in this research, with some errors so serious that the inquiries said they made it impossible to repeat these experiments and verify them! She reveals the evidence unearthed – reproducing key documents so the reader can assess themm for themselves. This is explosive material. She then finds the faults in researching HIV apply also to other viruses. She goes to the key experiments and can find none in which pure samples of viruses were produced and proved to cause particular human diseases. If they cannot purify viruses for use in vaccines, they cannot produce the pure cultures needed to link with certitude viruses with diseases. The book discusses in detail the attack on the Perth group in an Australian court in 2007. During this many HIV experts said again and again - 'but we don't isolate other viruses. `it is not only HIV that we do not isolate.' They described how they produced the flu and measles virus. The author shows how measles virus is produced according to the latest CDC guidelines. it is as strange as anything done with HIV. At no point is the virus actually detected and identified. A major part of the book takes its readers on a journey through various aspects of HIV theory, such as sexual transmission, the different clinical definitions of AIDS, why AIDS is said to be caused by HIV and at the same time is said to happen in the absence of HIV, and why the HIV test picks up on different diseases in the West and in Africa. In the final part of this book the author reports recent research that is revolutionizing biology and offering much hope for the future. These new developments shed new light on the relationships between our cells and viruses. They are not necessarily enemies. Readers may find these new developments will radically change the ideas they have held about viruses all their lives. The preface is contributed by Dr o Giraldo. The book has hundreds of scientific references, a scientific glossary and an index. <http://www.rethinki ngaids.com/ tabid/122/ Default.aspx>http://www.rethinki ngaids.com/ tabid/122/ Default.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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