Re: adverse reaction to vaccination and dairy

[Guest guest]

Dairy isn't *essential* to the body, and I would suggest keeping it

out of her diet, especially if it's already out. Here is a website

with some information and non-dairy sources of calcium.

http://tinyurl.com/5fevw5

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:27 PM, <ccomunal@...> wrote:

> My daughter had a severe reaction to her 1st and last dtap shot (at 5

> months). Since then, I have brought her to a host of doctors to find out

> what happened and how to get her better (she was doing jerking movements),

> including a DAN doctor (however, she never once showed signs of autism etc).

> He advised that I take her off all dairy and gluten, which I have done for

> the past 4months. She is now 9 months old and continues to meet all of her

> milestones etc. Is it safe to introduce dairy now? I am concerned about her

> calcium intake. I am still nursing (and I cut out dairy) and I make all of

> her food - all organic veggies, fruit, meat etc. I guess I don't understand

> if there is an issue with dairy for everyone...? should we all be off dairy?

[Guest guest]

It would be good to eat a lot of dark green leafy veggies, those have lots of

calcium in them.

For my kids I cook and puree organic kale and use the puree in baked muffins and

pancakes

and even in brownies (but I didn't give my infants brownies, LOL). I would not

introduce cow's

milk into the diet again. I would try goat's milk yogurt and goat's milk kefir.

This is not

always that easy to find but it is like night and day for people who are

sensitive to cow's dairy.

The goat's yogurt is very beneficial if tolerated. Many cannot tolerate any

dairy and it is not

necessary. Calcium can also be obtained by boiling your own bone broths and

cooking brown

rice with the bone broths instead of water. I simmer a pot of bones (chicken

usually) for a few

hours with veggies like carrots, onion and celery and then use the broth in our

rice in place

of using water. For babies, I give the rice in a conji porridge, which is

basically a rice thin

cereal sort of very thin hot oatmeal, not sweet but savory. That gives a lot of

B vitamins and

calcium without dairy. With some pureed carrots mixed in, babies gobble it up,

mommies

too. :-D -Arlynn

[Guest guest]

Great list--thanks, !

I just thought of something else about dairy. It can block the absorption of

other nutrients. When I was pregnant with my first, I drank lots of

milk--thought it was smart to do. I was anemic during the pregnancy, and twice

as anemic during the second. Iron supplements galore.

Then I discovered my first son's allergy and I stopped it for all of us. Third

and fourth pregnancies--no anemia at all, and I didn't even take the prenatals

that had mega iron, just a regular multi. I'm sure it was the milk.

Winnie

Re: adverse reaction to vaccination and dairy

Vaccinations

> Dairy isn't *essential* to the body, and I would suggest keeping it

> out of her diet, especially if it's already out. Here is a website

> with some information and non-dairy sources of calcium.

>

> http://tinyurl.com/5fevw5

>

>

>

> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:27 PM, wrote:

> > My daughter had a severe reaction to her 1st and last dtap

> shot (at 5

> > months). Since then, I have brought her to a host of doctors

> to find out

> > what happened and how to get her better (she was doing jerking

> movements),> including a DAN doctor (however, she never once

> showed signs of autism etc).

> > He advised that I take her off all dairy and gluten, which I

> have done for

> > the past 4months. She is now 9 months old and continues to

> meet all of her

> > milestones etc. Is it safe to introduce dairy now? I am

> concerned about her

> > calcium intake. I am still nursing (and I cut out dairy) and I

> make all of

> > her food - all organic veggies, fruit, meat etc. I guess I

> don't understand

> > if there is an issue with dairy for everyone...? should we all

> be off dairy?

>

[Guest guest]

Actually, much of our society (I believe 3/4 of people) cannot

tolerate the casein found in dairy. Casein is actually used in glue

manufacturing for it's amazing ability to bind. Can you imagine what

it does inside our intestines? There are plenty of other ways to

obtain sufficient calcium - which others have mentioned. Many

children who can tolerate dairy usually end up not able to tolerate

it later in life. Milk does the body " bad " .

>

> My daughter had a severe reaction to her 1st and last dtap shot (at

5 months). Since then, I have brought her to a host of doctors to

find out what happened and how to get her better (she was doing

jerking movements), including a DAN doctor (however, she never once

showed signs of autism etc). He advised that I take her off all dairy

and gluten, which I have done for the past 4months. She is now 9

months old and continues to meet all of her milestones etc. Is it

safe to introduce dairy now? I am concerned about her calcium intake.

I am still nursing (and I cut out dairy) and I make all of her food -

all organic veggies, fruit, meat etc. I guess I don't understand if

there is an issue with dairy for everyone...? should we all be off

dairy?

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, the dark green leafy veggies...brocolli, kale.. are superior

sources of calcium.

Arlynn - I would love the conji recipe!

Liz

>

> It would be good to eat a lot of dark green leafy veggies, those

have lots of calcium in them.

> For my kids I cook and puree organic kale and use the puree in baked

muffins and pancakes

> and even in brownies (but I didn't give my infants brownies, LOL). I

would not introduce cow's

> milk into the diet again. I would try goat's milk yogurt and goat's

milk kefir. This is not

> always that easy to find but it is like night and day for people who

are sensitive to cow's dairy.

> The goat's yogurt is very beneficial if tolerated. Many cannot

tolerate any dairy and it is not

> necessary. Calcium can also be obtained by boiling your own bone

broths and cooking brown

> rice with the bone broths instead of water. I simmer a pot of bones

(chicken usually) for a few

> hours with veggies like carrots, onion and celery and then use the

broth in our rice in place

> of using water. For babies, I give the rice in a conji porridge,

which is basically a rice thin

> cereal sort of very thin hot oatmeal, not sweet but savory. That

gives a lot of B vitamins and

> calcium without dairy. With some pureed carrots mixed in, babies

gobble it up, mommies

> too. :-D -Arlynn

>

[Guest guest]

> Then I discovered my first son's allergy and I stopped it for all of

us. Third and fourth pregnancies--no anemia at all, and I didn't even

take the prenatals that had mega iron, just a regular multi. I'm sure

it was the milk.

>

> Winnie

Was this raw or pasteurized milk? I know many have reactions to

pasteurized milk, but do very well on raw dairy. OTOH, some cannot

tolerate dairy at all.

I think if you cannot do pasteurized dairy, try raw (good clean source

of grassfed milk, organic if available). If you can't tolerate that,

then go dairy-free and stay that way.

Magda

[Guest guest]

>

> It would be good to eat a lot of dark green leafy veggies, those

have lots of calcium in them.

> For my kids I cook and puree organic kale and use the puree in

baked muffins and pancakes

> and even in brownies (but I didn't give my infants brownies, LOL).

I would not introduce cow's

> milk into the diet again. I would try goat's milk yogurt and goat's

milk kefir. This is not

> always that easy to find but it is like night and day for people

who are sensitive to cow's dairy.

> The goat's yogurt is very beneficial if tolerated. Many cannot

tolerate any dairy and it is not

> necessary. Calcium can also be obtained by boiling your own bone

broths and cooking brown

> rice with the bone broths instead of water. I simmer a pot of bones

(chicken usually) for a few

> hours with veggies like carrots, onion and celery and then use the

broth in our rice in place

> of using water. For babies, I give the rice in a conji porridge,

which is basically a rice thin

> cereal sort of very thin hot oatmeal, not sweet but savory. That

gives a lot of B vitamins and

> calcium without dairy. With some pureed carrots mixed in, babies

gobble it up, mommies

> too. :-D -Arlynn

>

Check out Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon for info on bone

broths and other great info on nutrition for kids ; )

[Guest guest]

At 06:27 PM 12/8/2008, you wrote:

>My daughter had a severe reaction to her 1st and last dtap shot (at

>5 months). Since then, I have brought her to a host of doctors to

>find out what happened and how to get her better (she was doing

>jerking movements), including a DAN doctor (however, she never once

>showed signs of autism etc). He advised that I take her off all

>dairy and gluten, which I have done for the past 4months. She is now

>9 months old and continues to meet all of her milestones etc. Is it

>safe to introduce dairy now? I am concerned about her calcium

>intake. I am still nursing (and I cut out dairy) and I make all of

>her food - all organic veggies, fruit, meat etc. I guess I don't

>understand if there is an issue with dairy for everyone...? should

>we all be off dairy?

> >

Diary isn't essential

Green vegies provide calcium

Look up the other things that do

And breastmilk is complete

Sheri

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