Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 On top of the fact that 100 is too small a sample size to draw such conclusions. This drives me nuts when I hear interpretations of data. Something like a 5% risk becomes " 1 in 20 will suffer. For every 20 people you meet, one will be affected. " As you pointed out, that's assuming all things being equal, and as we all know, all things are never equal. Bronwyn From: Jim O <jimokelly@...> Subject: Stupidy " Jim O' " <Vaccinations > Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 10:30 AM Here is how the enstein group thinks, or I should say doesn't think. From the book Dispelling Vaccination Myths. " If 100 people are vaccinated and 5 contract the disease, the vaccine is declared to be 95% effective. " So in their warped thinking all 100 people would have got the disease without the vaccine, but the vaccine saved 95 of them from getting the disease. Are they really that stupid? How hard is it to just reason, the five got sick because of the poison that was injected into them and the 95, had an immune system that was able to deal with the poison. The same as drugs, many people died of viox and many didn't. Since the drug/vaccine has no healing powers and the body has the power of elimination and action, would it not make sense that the final determination of life or death, sickness or health would depend on if the body could overcome the poison put in it. So the only question left is what makes a strong body? What makes a weak body? Well if we take the easy way out we could blame our grandparents. But keep this in mind, when we point the finger of blame at someone else........ ....notice what direction the other three fingers are pointing. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 As if getting the disease automatically means death or brain damage. Winnie Stupidy > " Jim O' " > Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 10:30 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is how the enstein group thinks, or I > should say doesn't think. > > From the book Dispelling Vaccination Myths. > > " If 100 people are vaccinated and 5 contract the disease, the > vaccine is declared to be 95% > > effective. " > > So in their warped thinking all 100 people would have got the > disease without the vaccine, but the vaccine saved 95 > > of them from getting the disease. Are they really that stupid? > > How hard is it to just reason, the five got sick because of the > poison that was injected into them and the 95, had an immune > system that was able to deal with the poison. The same as drugs, > many people died of viox and many didn't. > > Since the drug/vaccine has no healing powers and the body has > the power of elimination and action, would it not make sense > that the final determination of life or death, sickness or > health would depend on if the body could overcome the poison put > in it. > > So the only question left is what makes a strong body? What > makes a weak body? Well if we take the > > easy way out we could blame our grandparents. But keep this in > mind, when we point the finger of blame > > at someone else........ ....notice what direction the other > three fingers are pointing. > > > > Jim > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 But they don't even look at the numbers of those who are vaxed vs. those who get the disease. They just look at those who produce antibodies vs. those who don't (and then they don't even look at how long the antibodies last). I do like your explanation, though, and the finger pointing example was great! Winnie Stupidy Jim O' > Here is how the enstein group thinks, or I should say > doesn't think. > From the book Dispelling Vaccination Myths. > " If 100 people are vaccinated and 5 contract the disease, the > vaccine is declared to be 95% > effective. " > So in their warped thinking all 100 people would have got the > disease without the vaccine, but the vaccine saved 95 > of them from getting the disease. Are they really that stupid? > How hard is it to just reason, the five got sick because of the > poison that was injected into them and the 95, had an immune > system that was able to deal with the poison. The same as drugs, > many people died of viox and many didn't. > Since the drug/vaccine has no healing powers and the body has > the power of elimination and action, would it not make sense > that the final determination of life or death, sickness or > health would depend on if the body could overcome the poison put > in it. > So the only question left is what makes a strong body? What > makes a weak body? Well if we take the > easy way out we could blame our grandparents. But keep this in > mind, when we point the finger of blame > at someone else............notice what direction the other three > fingers are pointing. > > Jim > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 It's kind of the same how they figure vaccine harm or death vs. harm or death from the disease. They always say you are so much more likely to die from the disease than from the vaccine and shoot out some made up statistics. However, again assuming that you will 100% get the disease. In order to possibly suffer death or injury from a disease, you first have to actually get it, but you are taking on the immediate risk of vaccine death or injury every single time you get a vaccine. Plus, if I know there is lets say a whooping cough outbreak somewhere I can avoid taking my child out for a few days, but how do you try to avoid vaccine risks if you are hand delivering a child to a doctor to get the vaccine. Vida > > But they don't even look at the numbers of those who are vaxed vs. those who get the disease. They just look at those who produce antibodies vs. those who don't (and then they don't even look at how long the antibodies last). > > I do like your explanation, though, and the finger pointing example was great! > > Winnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 > So the only question left is what makes a strong body? What makes a weak body? Well if we take the > easy way out we could blame our grandparents. But keep this in mind, when we point the finger of blame > at someone else............notice what direction the other three fingers are pointing. > > Jim > > > Good expression Jim. I will be using it from now on. Genetics plays a minor role, it makes one predispose to such & such that's all. When we don't live according to nature, we will get sick and can only blame ourselves for that. It is hard to live a clean, natural live in today's overprocessed, modernized culture. I try everyday and it's a hard task, you don't fit in, you feel lonely but it's the God's way. When my friends say, oh what kind of live is it not to drink, eat junk food, etc. I say, complain to God, he is the one who created this world not me, it's his way or the highway Katarina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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