Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 All 5 of mine slept on their stomachs too without incident. They are unvaxed. In a message dated 12/10/2008 3:21:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, chris_mish@... writes: Hi Melinda, I had all three of my children sleep on their stomachs. It seemed completely unnatural to put them on their backs and watch them get flat heads. I haven't vaccinated any of my children. A pediatrician noticed my child must have slept on her tummy because she had such a nicely shaped head which he doesn't see much these days. But he still couldn't outwardly encourage this due to professional reasons. > > > > I am curious... > > if SIDS is vaccine related (which I think it probably is, given > that it > > peaks around 2 and 4 months), why has the SIDS rate been declining > > steadily over the past 20 years, even as more and more shots are > > introduced? And why would there be more cases of it in the winter? > > > > Just trying to wrap my mind around it. My little guy is a horrible > > sleeper on his back and we get no rest...but sleeps great on his > > belly...I am trying to get around the fear of putting him to sleep > on > > his stomach by telling myself he isn't vaccinated, he has all > organic > > bedding, etc. and he'll be fine. My chiropractor agrees that's it > ok > > for him but I would love other thoughts. > > > > Has anyone here felt safe with stomach sleeping for their non- vaxed > > babies? > > > > Melinda C. > > > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Hi Melinda, SIDS is absolutely caused by vaccination. If you haven't, read " A Shot in the Dark " By Coulter and Barbara Loe Fisher, that would probably ease your mind over the SIDS issue... it did mine. Also, here's 's SIDS page. Lots of info there: http://whale.to/vaccines/sids.html Why have " SIDS " rates declined? Because, like anything else, the name gets changed to create the numbers that the PTB (Powers That Be) want... i.e. " Shaken Baby Syndrome " , " Child Abuse " (this happened to friends of mine... baby died within hours of his 2 mo. shots, parents were investigated for child abuse, later the death was determined to be " SIDS " ). And the new one that Alan Crickmore, the coronor (an ATTORNEY and NOT a doctor, no less!) on the Fisher case in the U.K. recently came up with... " a rare condition known as Sudden Unexpected Death in Childhood, due to an unascertained disease. " http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/dec/04/mmr-death-verdict The PTB will manipulate the numbers anyway they see fit in order to continue fueling the vaccination frenzy. From one of the pages on 's site in the SIDS section: " Furthermore, much depends on how statistics are gathered. Until recently most autopsies on infants were carried out in a haphazard fashion. Often, no autopsies were performed. Now, in most parts of the western world, strict criteria are applied and autopsies performed by specialist teams. Many cases that previously would be considered as qualifying for the diagnosis of SIDS are now excluded. This artificially reduces the incidence compared to pre-autopsy and specialised consideration times. To accurately follow recent trends one needs to look at the overall infant mortality rate. This is the bottom line and cannot be easily manipulated. " --Dr Kalokerinos MD (Medical Pioneer of the 20th century p178) Regarding babies sleeping on their tummies, both of mine have slept on their tummies from birth. It's the only way either of them would/will stay asleep for more than about 5 minutes when not in my arms. My mom said that's the only way I'd sleep as a baby, too... and I'm STILL a stomach sleeper today. My seven-month-old still ONLY sleeps on his tummy (if he rolls over in his sleep he immediately wakes up and screams), my three-year-old sleeps all over the place... tummy, back, side, on his head, hands and knees... it's comical! I'm a co-sleeper, and I think one of the reasons I was so comfortable with the notion of my babies sleeping on their tummies, is that during their early months I would lay them down on their tummies in a co-sleeper bassinet that was attached to my bed. I could hear them breathing and reach over and feel them breathing without having to get out of bed or even fully wake up. I truly, 100% believe that SIDS = " Vaccine Induced Death " , but I understand your worry, as I've done the same thing. It's cuz you're a good mama! Hope this eases your mind a little bit... it is OKAY to get a little sleep for yourself! Put your baby down next to you in your bedroom and get some sleep! On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:22 PM, spanishmiss430 <spanishmiss430@...> wrote: > I am curious... > if SIDS is vaccine related (which I think it probably is, given that it > peaks around 2 and 4 months), why has the SIDS rate been declining > steadily over the past 20 years, even as more and more shots are > introduced? And why would there be more cases of it in the winter? > > Just trying to wrap my mind around it. My little guy is a horrible > sleeper on his back and we get no rest...but sleeps great on his > belly...I am trying to get around the fear of putting him to sleep on > his stomach by telling myself he isn't vaccinated, he has all organic > bedding, etc. and he'll be fine. My chiropractor agrees that's it ok > for him but I would love other thoughts. > > Has anyone here felt safe with stomach sleeping for their non-vaxed > babies? > > Melinda C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Are you sure the rates have been declining and that they haven't just given it different " disease names " ? I know that the medical community is fabulous for making things up as they go along. The reported statistics might also be inaccurate too. > > I am curious... > if SIDS is vaccine related (which I think it probably is, given that it > peaks around 2 and 4 months), why has the SIDS rate been declining > steadily over the past 20 years, even as more and more shots are > introduced? And why would there be more cases of it in the winter? > > Just trying to wrap my mind around it. My little guy is a horrible > sleeper on his back and we get no rest...but sleeps great on his > belly...I am trying to get around the fear of putting him to sleep on > his stomach by telling myself he isn't vaccinated, he has all organic > bedding, etc. and he'll be fine. My chiropractor agrees that's it ok > for him but I would love other thoughts. > > Has anyone here felt safe with stomach sleeping for their non-vaxed > babies? > > Melinda C. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Mine have all slept on their bellies...even my partially vaxed girls before I knew better. They would just startle and wake up flailing w/in 5 min if I put them on their backs. My 5 week old is sleeping on her belly in my bed right now as I write this. I check on her every 15 min or so but mainly to make sure she hasn't wriggled herself into the blankets. We also co sleep at night and that makes me feel reassured that we are actually reducing our SIDS risk. *I* think it's safer but I hesitate to tell other parents to do it because of the " what if " scenario, but I just tell them my experiences w/it and let them make their own decision. a **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Hi Melinda, I had all three of my children sleep on their stomachs. It seemed completely unnatural to put them on their backs and watch them get flat heads. I haven't vaccinated any of my children. A pediatrician noticed my child must have slept on her tummy because she had such a nicely shaped head which he doesn't see much these days. But he still couldn't outwardly encourage this due to professional reasons. > > > > I am curious... > > if SIDS is vaccine related (which I think it probably is, given > that it > > peaks around 2 and 4 months), why has the SIDS rate been declining > > steadily over the past 20 years, even as more and more shots are > > introduced? And why would there be more cases of it in the winter? > > > > Just trying to wrap my mind around it. My little guy is a horrible > > sleeper on his back and we get no rest...but sleeps great on his > > belly...I am trying to get around the fear of putting him to sleep > on > > his stomach by telling myself he isn't vaccinated, he has all > organic > > bedding, etc. and he'll be fine. My chiropractor agrees that's it > ok > > for him but I would love other thoughts. > > > > Has anyone here felt safe with stomach sleeping for their non- vaxed > > babies? > > > > Melinda C. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 In a message dated 12/10/2008 12:22:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, spanishmiss430@... writes: Has anyone here felt safe with stomach sleeping for their non-vaxed babies? I tried to keep on her back b/c of what the " professionals " said. She rolled herself over at two months on to her tummy and never looked back, lol. She is completely unvaxed. My next baby I'll probably put on their tummy from the beginning. We do not co sleep. Holly **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Come to think of it, both of mine have those pretty round heads, too! I can't help but think that tummy sleeping is actually safer. If they spit up a little - or a lot, it leaves the mouth so much easier than if they are on their backs. It seems like a choking hazard to have them sleep on their backs. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:20 AM, mkeats88 <chris_mish@...> wrote: > Hi Melinda, > > I had all three of my children sleep on their stomachs. It seemed > completely unnatural to put them on their backs and watch them get > flat heads. I haven't vaccinated any of my children. A > pediatrician noticed my child must have slept on her tummy because > she had such a nicely shaped head which he doesn't see much these > days. But he still couldn't outwardly encourage this due to > professional reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I'm with the others. You can't trust the statistics or who gathers them. Don't worry about the stomach sleeping. A rested baby is a healthier baby, so if they get rest on their stomachs, so be it. My second son was born in 1992, right when all the warnings came out about SIDS and stomach sleeping. I thought, great, now I have a stomach sleeper. What to do? I let him sleep on his stomach. I did worry because of all the hype but really had no choice. All of my kids slept with me and generally slept on their sides most of the time anyway because they were nursing. Eventually they'd flop to their backs, except #2. I'd flip him to his tummy and he was good to go (and he was vaccinated, too). Funny, for the 16 years since then, he has always slept on his back. It's normal to worry about all what you hear. Just go with your gut. If you know he can't sleep on his back, don't put him on it. Winnie thinking about SIDS... Vaccinations > I am curious... > if SIDS is vaccine related (which I think it probably is, given > that it > peaks around 2 and 4 months), why has the SIDS rate been > declining > steadily over the past 20 years, even as more and more shots are > introduced? And why would there be more cases of it in the > winter? > > Just trying to wrap my mind around it. My little guy is a > horrible > sleeper on his back and we get no rest...but sleeps great on his > belly...I am trying to get around the fear of putting him to > sleep on > his stomach by telling myself he isn't vaccinated, he has all > organic > bedding, etc. and he'll be fine. My chiropractor agrees that's > it ok > for him but I would love other thoughts. > > Has anyone here felt safe with stomach sleeping for their non- > vaxed > babies? > > Melinda C. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I did the same with my baby. My pedi also commented on how well his head was shaped...I doubt it would have mattered anyway as I held him for the first months of his life anyway lol. I just could not put him on his back, for me, it was best to put him on his tummy. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:20 AM, mkeats88 <chris_mish@...> wrote: > Hi Melinda, > > I had all three of my children sleep on their stomachs. It seemed > completely unnatural to put them on their backs and watch them get > flat heads. I haven't vaccinated any of my children. A > pediatrician noticed my child must have slept on her tummy because > she had such a nicely shaped head which he doesn't see much these > days. But he still couldn't outwardly encourage this due to > professional reasons. > > > > > > > > > > I am curious... > > > if SIDS is vaccine related (which I think it probably is, given > > that it > > > peaks around 2 and 4 months), why has the SIDS rate been > declining > > > steadily over the past 20 years, even as more and more shots are > > > introduced? And why would there be more cases of it in the > winter? > > > > > > Just trying to wrap my mind around it. My little guy is a > horrible > > > sleeper on his back and we get no rest...but sleeps great on his > > > belly...I am trying to get around the fear of putting him to > sleep > > on > > > his stomach by telling myself he isn't vaccinated, he has all > > organic > > > bedding, etc. and he'll be fine. My chiropractor agrees that's > it > > ok > > > for him but I would love other thoughts. > > > > > > Has anyone here felt safe with stomach sleeping for their non- > vaxed > > > babies? > > > > > > Melinda C. > > > > > > > > -- Peace, Charlotte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Thank you all so much for the reassurance. He does have a really nice round head - people have complimented me on it. If I tell them it's because he doesn't sleep on his back, they look at me like I'm the worst mom ever. Course, it's the same look I get when people hear I'm not vaccinating so I'm getting used to it. =) He is in a co-sleeper by our bed which does help. Last night he went down in 3 minutes and slept all night. On his back, it takes over an hour to get him to sleep and he's awake again in an hour! Melinda C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 My midwife advocated laying on the back because 20 years ago she lost her 8 week old unvaxed, homebirthed, unseen by a doctor, baby to SIDS. I do believe that vaccination is the most preventable cause of SIDS, but just like anything else there are exceptions too. Her mother had also lost a child to SIDS and the doctor blamed it on her breastfeeding! Commonsense rules. No fluffy bedding, etc. I put mine on his side because that is what is most comfortable for me, he slips to front and back. At 9 weeks he is very strong and i'm comfortable with my choices. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 My guy only slept in his bouncer or car seat or in my arms for the first 3 months. After that I got a mattress cover and started sleeping him in his crib, even face down if he wanted. I was not too afraid of SIDS since I was not vaccinating and he had the mattress cover, but I still woke up every hour to check on him...in fact I still do, I guess worrying is part of being a mom. Sleeping in the crib was a struggle, he would not sleep more than a couple hours. At about 5 months, he started sleeping in bed, between my husband and I. Started sleeping so well and so did I. He still, 20 months, sleeps with us and I wouldn't change that for nothing. My mom hates that we co-sleep, but she is from that generation. Next baby I will start them directly in my bed. I think babies that co- sleep are far less likely to die of SIDS and babies with wrapped mattresses too. But I see how it makes sense, I think parents that wrap mattresses and co-sleep and breastfeed are probably less likely to vaccinate too. Vida > > Thank you all so much for the reassurance. > He does have a really nice round head - people have complimented me on > it. If I tell them it's because he doesn't sleep on his back, they look > at me like I'm the worst mom ever. Course, it's the same look I get > when people hear I'm not vaccinating so I'm getting used to it. =) > > He is in a co-sleeper by our bed which does help. Last night he went > down in 3 minutes and slept all night. On his back, it takes over an > hour to get him to sleep and he's awake again in an hour! > > Melinda C. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 > > I am curious... > if SIDS is vaccine related (which I think it probably is, given that it > peaks around 2 and 4 months), why has the SIDS rate been declining > steadily over the past 20 years, even as more and more shots are > introduced? And why would there be more cases of it in the winter? > > I thought the exact same thing. Why are cases of SIDS are going down? And like many say SIDS is an all inclusive diagnosis where lots of vaccine-related death are included. There are more vaccines now than ever, more medical interventions from day one, more babies are being born, so why the decrease? Katarina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 SIDS was not something that was seen or described until after vaccines were used in the 40's and 50's I too sleep on my stomach and slept on my stomach along with trillions of other infants throughout history. Sheri At 06:17 AM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Mine have all slept on their bellies...even my partially vaxed girls before >I knew better. They would just startle and wake up flailing w/in 5 min if I >put them on their backs. My 5 week old is sleeping on her belly in my bed >right now as I write this. I check on her every 15 min or so but mainly to >make sure she hasn't wriggled herself into the blankets. We >also co sleep at >night and that makes me feel reassured that we are actually >reducing our SIDS >risk. > >*I* think it's safer but I hesitate to tell other parents to do it because >of the " what if " scenario, but I just tell them my experiences w/it and let >them make their own decision. > >a >**************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and >favorite sites in one place. Try it now. >(http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010\ ) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Why are allergies, asthma, ADHD, childhood cancers, learning disabilities, etc. going up? Those are the kids who lived. Winnie Re: thinking about SIDS... Vaccinations > > > > > I am curious... > > if SIDS is vaccine related (which I think it probably is, > given that > it > > peaks around 2 and 4 months), why has the SIDS rate been > declining > > steadily over the past 20 years, even as more and more shots > are > > introduced? And why would there be more cases of it in the > winter? > > > > I thought the exact same thing. Why are cases of SIDS are > going down? > And like many say SIDS is an all inclusive diagnosis where lots > of > vaccine-related death are included. There are more vaccines now > than > ever, more medical interventions from day one, more babies are > being > born, so why the decrease? > > Katarina > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Hi Melinda, My brother was a tummy sleeper. He slept flat on his tummy, with face in the sheet/pillow. My mom tried to turn him several times during the night, but he always turned back. She was terrified he would suffocate himself!! He never did - that was just how he slept. Interestingly enough, he was fully vaxxed. Magda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Try looking at mattress fumes in conjuction with vaccination. I believe this is why it happens more in winter, baby is warmer and heating up the mattress more and releases more fumes. Same with vaccination and baby has higher body temperature from that. Same with why it happens more with younger siblings, cause they reuse the mattress which more easily releases fumes, and with poorer families who usually get an older, used mattress. I believe this is why parents forcing their babies to sleep on back has helped in the decline of SIDS. Of course, the fumes are poison, and again, probably most babies that do become exposed to it do not die, however some do, but I believe most SIDS is either from mattress fumes or vaccinations, or a combination of both. Look into getting a mattress cover for the crib or co-sleeping (this regulates baby's breathing.) Also, I believe that the flame resistant chemicals were not added to mattresses until after WWII, so it also fits in the time frame. Vida > > SIDS was not something that was seen or described until after > vaccines were used in the 40's and 50's > > I too sleep on my stomach and slept on my stomach along with > trillions of other infants throughout history. > Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 see my SIDS pages http://www.wellwithin1.com/SIDS.htm also info in mattress link http://www.babysaver.org/cribdeathcause.htm Sheri At 11:40 AM 12/10/2008, you wrote: >Try looking at mattress fumes in conjuction with vaccination. I >believe this is why it happens more in winter, baby is warmer and >heating up the mattress more and releases more fumes. Same with >vaccination and baby has higher body temperature from that. Same >with why it happens more with younger siblings, cause they reuse the >mattress which more easily releases fumes, and with poorer families >who usually get an older, used mattress. I believe this is why >parents forcing their babies to sleep on back has helped in the >decline of SIDS. Of course, the fumes are poison, and again, probably >most babies that do become exposed to it do not die, however some do, >but I believe most SIDS is either from mattress fumes or >vaccinations, or a combination of both. Look into getting a mattress >cover for the crib or co-sleeping (this regulates baby's breathing.) >Also, I believe that the flame resistant chemicals were not added to >mattresses until after WWII, so it also fits in the time frame. >Vida > > > > > > SIDS was not something that was seen or described until after > > vaccines were used in the 40's and 50's > > > > I too sleep on my stomach and slept on my stomach along with > > trillions of other infants throughout history. > > Sheri > > > >------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Our son would not sleep in his crib - ever. If we tried to force the issue, he just screamed. We tried all the books. The only thing we did not try was stomach sleeping cause of all the hype. Finally, we took him to bed with us out of desperation. Then, when he would start to wake, we could just rub his tummy and he would go back to sleep and so would we! He slept with us until he was about 5. C Houston > > > > Thank you all so much for the reassurance. > > He does have a really nice round head - people have complimented me > on > > it. If I tell them it's because he doesn't sleep on his back, they > look > > at me like I'm the worst mom ever. Course, it's the same look I get > > when people hear I'm not vaccinating so I'm getting used to it. =) > > > > He is in a co-sleeper by our bed which does help. Last night he > went > > down in 3 minutes and slept all night. On his back, it takes over > an > > hour to get him to sleep and he's awake again in an hour! > > > > Melinda C. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Both of mine could pull their heads off of my shoulder at birth, so as soon as their umbilical cords fell off and healed, they were on their tummies - unless they chose to roll back over. DS started rolling from his tummy to his back at 6 weeks old - no kidding. And, by 11 weeks he was rolling from his stomach to his back many times a day. I think it helped with sleep some but also motor skills!!! Plus, he was crawling by the time he hit 5 months. DD was a little slower with the movements, but poor thing did get a few delayed vaxes before I wised up. However, she slept beautifully on her tummy and horribly on her back... DH and I survived, and we were vaxed and placed on our tummies to sleep as babies. I think it's in part one more " excuse " /cause for SIDS to blame ANYTHING other than the vaccines, etc. > > I am curious... > if SIDS is vaccine related (which I think it probably is, given that it > peaks around 2 and 4 months), why has the SIDS rate been declining > steadily over the past 20 years, even as more and more shots are > introduced? And why would there be more cases of it in the winter? > > Just trying to wrap my mind around it. My little guy is a horrible > sleeper on his back and we get no rest...but sleeps great on his > belly...I am trying to get around the fear of putting him to sleep on > his stomach by telling myself he isn't vaccinated, he has all organic > bedding, etc. and he'll be fine. My chiropractor agrees that's it ok > for him but I would love other thoughts. > > Has anyone here felt safe with stomach sleeping for their non-vaxed > babies? > > Melinda C. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Both of mine could pull their heads off of my shoulder at birth, so as soon as their umbilical cords fell off and healed, they were on their tummies - unless they chose to roll back over. DS started rolling from his tummy to his back at 6 weeks old - no kidding. And, by 11 weeks he was rolling from his stomach to his back many times a day. I think it helped with sleep some but also motor skills!!! Plus, he was crawling by the time he hit 5 months. DD was a little slower with the movements, but poor thing did get a few delayed vaxes before I wised up. However, she slept beautifully on her tummy and horribly on her back... DH and I survived, and we were vaxed and placed on our tummies to sleep as babies. I think it's in part one more " excuse " /cause for SIDS to blame ANYTHING other than the vaccines, etc. > > I am curious... > if SIDS is vaccine related (which I think it probably is, given that it > peaks around 2 and 4 months), why has the SIDS rate been declining > steadily over the past 20 years, even as more and more shots are > introduced? And why would there be more cases of it in the winter? > > Just trying to wrap my mind around it. My little guy is a horrible > sleeper on his back and we get no rest...but sleeps great on his > belly...I am trying to get around the fear of putting him to sleep on > his stomach by telling myself he isn't vaccinated, he has all organic > bedding, etc. and he'll be fine. My chiropractor agrees that's it ok > for him but I would love other thoughts. > > Has anyone here felt safe with stomach sleeping for their non-vaxed > babies? > > Melinda C. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Smart mama, to listen to your baby. Winnie Re: thinking about SIDS... Vaccinations > Our son would not sleep in his crib - ever. If we tried to force > the > issue, he just screamed. We tried all the books. The only thing > we > did not try was stomach sleeping cause of all the hype. Finally, > we > took him to bed with us out of desperation. Then, when he would > start > to wake, we could just rub his tummy and he would go back to > sleep > and so would we! He slept with us until he was about 5. > > C > Houston > > > > > > > > Thank you all so much for the reassurance. > > > He does have a really nice round head - people have > complimented > me > > on > > > it. If I tell them it's because he doesn't sleep on his > back, > they > > look > > > at me like I'm the worst mom ever. Course, it's the same > look I > get > > > when people hear I'm not vaccinating so I'm getting used to > it. =) > > > > > > He is in a co-sleeper by our bed which does help. Last night > he > > went > > > down in 3 minutes and slept all night. On his back, it takes > over > > an > > > hour to get him to sleep and he's awake again in an hour! > > > > > > Melinda C. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 And flame resistant chemicals are put on chidren's sleepwear. In the winter, more clothing is worn at night, therefore more chemicals touch more parts of the body. Winnie Re: thinking about SIDS... Vaccinations > Try looking at mattress fumes in conjuction with vaccination. I > believe this is why it happens more in winter, baby is warmer > and > heating up the mattress more and releases more fumes. Same with > vaccination and baby has higher body temperature from that. > Same > with why it happens more with younger siblings, cause they reuse > the > mattress which more easily releases fumes, and with poorer > families > who usually get an older, used mattress. I believe this is why > parents forcing their babies to sleep on back has helped in the > decline of SIDS. Of course, the fumes are poison, and again, > probably > most babies that do become exposed to it do not die, however > some do, > but I believe most SIDS is either from mattress fumes or > vaccinations, or a combination of both. Look into getting a > mattress > cover for the crib or co-sleeping (this regulates baby's breathing.) > Also, I believe that the flame resistant chemicals were not > added to > mattresses until after WWII, so it also fits in the time frame. > Vida > > > > > > SIDS was not something that was seen or described until after > > vaccines were used in the 40's and 50's > > > > I too sleep on my stomach and slept on my stomach along with > > trillions of other infants throughout history. > > Sheri > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 We wrapped his co-sleeper mattress in one of the babysafe plastic wrappers that doesn't off-gas, and will do the same to his crib mattress when we transition him (organic mattresses are so, so expensive, we just couldn't do it). All his jammies are hand me downs that have been washed a million times...when he outgrows them, I already found the new ones I'm going to get that don't have flame retardant on them. I do get concerned because he sleeps swaddled, and swaddled on belly seems like it might be too constricted? But he loves it! And he is very strong. He's been holding his head up off our shoulders since he came out, and was rolling from belly to back before he was 2 months old. If he wasn't swaddled I'm sure he'd roll from belly to back in a heartbeat. Melinda C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Anne Diamond went to NZ and started this idea if I recall right, stdiously ignoring the vit c cure in aus john Are you giving your baby flat head syndrome? Mail on Sunday Feb 18, 2007 Cot-death fears 'mean half of infants have skull problem' BRITAIN is facing an increasing number of babies with flattened skulls, a leading medical expert warned yesterday. Almost half of infants develop a flat patch to the back or side of their head, according to the latest published research. And the reason is thought to be the highly successful campaign to prevent cot deaths by putting babies to sleep on their backs. But treatment of the condition, flat head syndrome or positional plagiocephaly, has led to a major split in the medical profession. While some experts claim it can cause medical problems, including muscular and visual difficulties, others say it is purely cosmetic and will correct itself without intervention. Philip Owen, a paediatric cranial osteopath from Manchester, who has treated thousands of children with the syndrome over the past 25 years, fears the number of babies developing symptoms is growing significantly. He said: 'Four out of five babies who come to me have misÂshapen heads and in 30 per cent of those cases the problem is moderate or severe. 'In future I think we will see more cases. It is very sad.' But Dr Ward Platt, a consultant paediatrician at Newcastle's Royal Infirmary, says parents have nothing to worry about. 'It is extremely common for babies to have flat patches on their heads and it always has been,' he said. 'It is part of the normal condition because babies are born with very large brains. 'This is another example of the tendency to create medÂical problems out of normality. It is not a problem.' Bone, 28, from Great Budworth, Cheshire, decided to have her son Oliver fitted with a helmet when he was seven months old after his head became very flat on the right side. Although she saw some improvements with the helÂmet, Oliver started to suffer from pressure sores. So she tried a special mattress, designed by Mr Owen to prevent flat head syndrome, which has a dip in it for the baby's head so it doesn't flop to one side. She said: 'Oliver is nearly two now and his head shape has improved significantly, although it is not perfect. 'I just wish we had been told about this right from day one. If we had, we wouldn't be trying to correct it now.' The latest research was based on American infants. It found that up to 48 per cent of babies under the age of one developed the deformity. Experts last night stressed the importance of following the Back To Sleep campaign -launched in the Nineties - as the number of cases in which babies died has dropped by 50 per cent in a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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