Re: Question about pet vaccinations

[Guest guest]

I looked until I found a vet in my area that does not mandate vaccines. RIght

now, I have 2 vets- one I worked for as a teen who's 1 mile from my home who

argues with me constantly but realizes I won't change, and another, 45 minutes

away, who admits that she isn't fond of vaccines and never talks to me about

them. I'd ask/look around. There's usually a holistic vet or 2 in the phone

book. There's bound to be one near you who doesn't mandate. I have 15 pets,

and none of them is vaccinated. Though it's rare for us to make a trip to the

vet, I like to have more than one option.

Hollie

http://www.thebusinessofbeingborn.com/

http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html

My son was born at home and is vaccine-free!!!

> From: Petric <bluheron@...>

> Subject: Question about pet vaccinations

> Vaccinations

> Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 5:27 AM

> Reading 's comment on never injecting her family

> and pets ever again.

> How do I get around the pets part? I had to get worm

> medication for my one cat, and was told, " we

> haven't seen her for over a year, we can't put up

> meds for her, until we give her her....she named off three

> shots....and I said, I can't afford that! She said she

> would put up ONE pill that would take care of it and it did,

> but she said I had to bring her in for her shots now.

>

> Even when they get " fixed " , it used to be that

> they would do it and give them their shots, at the same

> time. Now, they say they have to have all their shots

> first, THEN do the operation! That is bull@#*!, and all of

> the vetinarians do it now! That is robbery, but they hide

> behind, " we don't want to infect all the other

> animals in the hospital " And they won't

> " fix " them without the shots, they flat out refuse

> to do it!

>

> It's frustrating, I have a neighbor who's cat comes

> to our house to attack our cats on our porch, and had to go

> to the vet a couple of times now and this is what I am

> getting!

>

> Jim, what would you do?

>

>

> Western NY

>

>

[Guest guest]

First I would shoot the neighbors cat. Just kidding. I would shoot the

neighbor.Second kidding.

Actually when I was a kid I had a few dogs and cats. My mom never took any of

them to a vet or us kids to a doctor, which it turned out was a good thing. So

they received no shots and no poisons. In fact I don't remember any of my

friends talking about taking their animals to a vet. We didn't have money, and

luckily we weren't educated out of our common sense. One time my Irish setter

was sick. He laid down in the grass for two or three days. My mom told me to

give him water and love, and he would be fine, which he was. I asked my mom

about giving him food. I remember her saying, when a body is hungry you feed it.

She than took some food out to the dog and he wouldn't touch it. I got the

message loud and clear. Now as for today I will be getting another dog in a year

or so, and it will not be injected with any poisons. In fact I will get a dog

book that talks about natural food. I can't believe there are actually people

today who routinely take a dog to

the vet and let the vet give the dog drugs. But I guess if a person takes  them

their self they would reason an animal should to. I always wonder how the wild

animals survive with out drugs. Maybe the germs don't like it in the wild. I

have never taken a dog to a vet and unless it needs to be repaired from an auto

accident I see no reason to go. So do whatever you need to do to follow your

heart.

Jim

________________________________

From: Petric <bluheron@...>

Vaccinations

Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:27:56 AM

Subject: Question about pet vaccinations

Reading 's comment on never injecting her family and pets ever again.

How do I get around the pets part? I had to get worm medication for my one cat,

and was told, " we haven't seen her for over a year, we can't put up meds for

her, until we give her her....she named off three shots....and I said, I can't

afford that! She said she would put up ONE pill that would take care of it and

it did, but she said I had to bring her in for her shots now.

Even when they get " fixed " , it used to be that they would do it and give them

their shots, at the same time. Now, they say they have to have all their shots

first, THEN do the operation! That is bull@#*!, and all of the vetinarians do it

now! That is robbery, but they hide behind, " we don't want to infect all the

other animals in the hospital " And they won't " fix " them without the shots, they

flat out refuse to do it!

It's frustrating, I have a neighbor who's cat comes to our house to attack our

cats on our porch, and had to go to the vet a couple of times now and this is

what I am getting!

Jim, what would you do?

Western NY

[Guest guest]

Although I'm in the UK so it's not a problem, I know many people in

USA who don't chemically worm or vaccinate. Try to find a

Homeopathic and/or Holistic Vet who will share your concerns. Can

you not buy worm stuff in a pet store or online? I know with dogs,

grated carrot added to food does the job if they actually have

worms, as does garlic as a preventative. That's what I use.

Muriel

>

> Reading 's comment on never injecting her family and pets

ever again.

> How do I get around the pets part? I had to get worm medication

for my one cat, and was told, " we haven't seen her for over a year,

we can't put up meds for her, until we give her her....she named off

three shots....and I said, I can't afford that! She said she would

put up ONE pill that would take care of it and it did, but she said

I had to bring her in for her shots now.

>

> Even when they get " fixed " , it used to be that they would do it

and give them their shots, at the same time. Now, they say they

have to have all their shots first, THEN do the operation! That is

bull@#*!, and all of the vetinarians do it now! That is robbery,

but they hide behind, " we don't want to infect all the other animals

in the hospital " And they won't " fix " them without the shots, they

flat out refuse to do it!

>

> It's frustrating, I have a neighbor who's cat comes to our house

to attack our cats on our porch, and had to go to the vet a couple

of times now and this is what I am getting!

>

> Jim, what would you do?

>

>

> Western NY

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I had to get worm medication for my one cat, and was told, " we

haven't seen her for over a year, we can't put up meds for her, until

we give her her....she named off three shots....and I said, I can't

afford that!

I didn't think you had to vax before getting the heartworm medication -

you just had to have an exam done. Isnt't that stuff OTC now anyway? I

quit giving my dog both the flea and worm medications - too many

chemicals. I have also quit taking her to the vet - she hasn't been in

6 plus years. I'm careful she doesn't get out of the backyard and she's

never off-leash. I do know of a friendly vet who will sign a rabies

waiver w/o doing shots - you can also check titers.

Magda

[Guest guest]

Keep looking around for other vets. I found a vet that was cheap for the

spay and they wanted to shoot up the cat and I said, no I'm not going to

give her vaccines while she's doing major surgery. We'll take care of that

at her regular vet when she's recovered.-and of course I never took her for

that either but did get her spayed. She's never had a shot of anything. Very

healthy kitty cat, despite the crap food I feed her!

I almost never take my pets to the vet. They're healthy. I don't take my

well kids to the doctor, why would I take my well pets to the doctor? Yeah,

for the " well pet visit " --I kid you not!-that is what they call it.

vaccines. It's all about vaccines. The pet world has acknowledged there IS

vaccinosis but still push them. the human world has yet to even acknowledge

it exists. Disgusting!

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7, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 3 and Isaac, 2/3/08

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Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long enough

to make them all yourself.

[Guest guest]

I would catch the cat that keeps coming to fight and put him up for

adoption. :-P That should fix the problem right there. If the animal

is continually on my property, the animal is mine by 9/10'ths of the

law. :-D

[Guest guest]

Just a note that in NY we are required by law to license our dogs and

in order to get the license we have to show veterinarian proof of

rabies vaccine. I do the rabies vax every 3rd year (to avoid having

our dog impounded). But I never give anything else to her. -Arlynn

[Guest guest]

We had several dogs growing up, all were super healthy and lived to a

ripe old age (none were vaccinated). As an adult, I had a wonderful

lab mix that I was able to take for all vet appointments and

vaccinate (thought I was being a responsible pet owner) and he died

at 8 from liver failure! We now have 3 happy healthy pets, they get

a rabies shot (every 3 yrs in NY) and that's it! There will be no

other vax and they are healthy and we may breed our newfie and

advertise any puppies as non-vax and healthy and target that market

for a change!

>

> First I would shoot the neighbors cat. Just kidding. I would shoot

the neighbor.Second kidding.

> Actually when I was a kid I had a few dogs and cats. My mom never

took any of them to a vet or us kids to a doctor, which it turned out

was a good thing. So they received no shots and no poisons. In fact I

don't remember any of my friends talking about taking their animals

to a vet. We didn't have money, and luckily we weren't educated out

of our common sense. One time my Irish setter was sick. He laid down

in the grass for two or three days. My mom told me to give him water

and love, and he would be fine, which he was. I asked my mom about

giving him food. I remember her saying, when a body is hungry you

feed it. She than took some food out to the dog and he wouldn't touch

it. I got the message loud and clear. Now as for today I will be

getting another dog in a year or so, and it will not be injected with

any poisons. In fact I will get a dog book that talks about natural

food. I can't believe there are actually people today who routinely

take a dog to

> the vet and let the vet give the dog drugs. But I guess if a

person takes  them their self they would reason an animal should to.

I always wonder how the wild animals survive with out drugs. Maybe

the germs don't like it in the wild. I have never taken a dog to a

vet and unless it needs to be repaired from an auto accident I see no

reason to go. So do whatever you need to do to follow your heart.

>

>

> Jim

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Petric <bluheron@...>

> Vaccinations

> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:27:56 AM

> Subject: Question about pet vaccinations

>

>

> Reading 's comment on never injecting her family and pets ever

again.

> How do I get around the pets part? I had to get worm medication for

my one cat, and was told, " we haven't seen her for over a year, we

can't put up meds for her, until we give her her....she named off

three shots....and I said, I can't afford that! She said she would

put up ONE pill that would take care of it and it did, but she said I

had to bring her in for her shots now.

>

> Even when they get " fixed " , it used to be that they would do it and

give them their shots, at the same time. Now, they say they have to

have all their shots first, THEN do the operation! That is bull@#*!,

and all of the vetinarians do it now! That is robbery, but they hide

behind, " we don't want to infect all the other animals in the

hospital " And they won't " fix " them without the shots, they flat out

refuse to do it!

>

> It's frustrating, I have a neighbor who's cat comes to our house to

attack our cats on our porch, and had to go to the vet a couple of

times now and this is what I am getting!

>

> Jim, what would you do?

>

>

> Western NY

>

>