Re: Re: was Well Visits- now vaccine waiver form

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Hello,

I am a new member. I was wondering what you all say when you dont want to

have your child/children vaccinated? I do know in some states you can be

exempted

from vaccines due to religious beliefs, so is that the reason you all use?

And is the law does indeed say that we can be excused due to religious

beliefs then I dont think it makes sense if the physicians make you sign a

waiver

and then contact child protective services, since it IS the law that we dont

have to.

Sabina

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What do you do if you've already signed one?

Thanks,

Liz G.

From: Dawn <dawndanc@...>

Subject: Re: Well Visits

Vaccinations

Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 7:50 AM

I totally agree with everything that Mavis has said. Whatever you

do

though, do NOT sign that vaccine waiver form that the pediatrician

provides you with. Find a doctor who will not force you to sign it.

If you read it carefully, it states that you are a neglectful parent

for not vaccinating and that you are putting everyone at risk by your

actions. Some parents have had child protective services alerted

when they signed this form - amazing how that is not news worthy,

huh? Not all doctors are making parents sign this - most are though.

>

> I have done selective/delayed/ 1 at a time vaccinations on my 3 yr

old

> DD and my 4 mo old has had none. The 3 yr old thank God has had no

> reactions to the shots thus far that I am aware of but I truly

wasn't

> comfortable with getting any; most were given out of guilt by Drs.

and

> she has not had any since she was 18 mo old.

>

> I have come along way in 3 years and now have no problem signing

that

> vaccine waiver form. HOwever, now that both girls are due for well

> visits I have a sick feeling in my stomach about taking them. I

> actually made appointments and canceled them both! Should I take

them?

> Am I terrible if I don't? I weighed/measured the baby and she is

> growing at the same rate as her sister and both girls seem healthy

to

> me. My oldest just got her first real sickness in 3 yrs. (a mini flu

> bug) thats it!. How can I best meet the needs of my kids without the

> pressures of living by the medical model? Does anyone have/know any

> Naturopaths (sp) in MI or how one might become one, take classes,

> anything would be helpful. I want to help my children have strong

> healthy bodies but also realize that there is a time and place for

> medicine. My question is when and how do you find support when its

> needed?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Sabina. It's not the physician you need to give a reason to. For them you

just say no thanks. I don't do those. And you're right. It doesn't make sense

about signing it if the law allows the use of exemptions.

What you use the exemption for is for school/daycare, NOT for real life. And you

don't say anything. You sign the exemption and hand it in with NO verbal

explanation. Depending on what state you live in, you would use either a

religious or philosophical exemption. Check here for what your state law is:

http://www.nvic.org/state-site/state-exemptions.htm

How old is your child/children?

Winnie

Re: Re: was Well Visits- now vaccine waiver form

Vaccinations

>

> Hello,

>

> I am a new member. I was wondering what you all say when you

> dont want to

> have your child/children vaccinated? I do know in some states

> you can be exempted

> from vaccines due to religious beliefs, so is that the reason

> you all use?

>

> And is the law does indeed say that we can be excused due to

> religious

> beliefs then I dont think it makes sense if the physicians make

> you sign a waiver

> and then contact child protective services, since it IS the law

> that we dont

> have to.

>

> Sabina

>

>

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[Guest guest]

At 04:45 PM 12/17/2008, you wrote:

>Hello,

>

>I am a new member. I was wondering what you all say when you dont want to

>have your child/children vaccinated? I do know in some states you

>can be exempted

>from vaccines due to religious beliefs, so is that the reason you all use?

>

>And is the law does indeed say that we can be excused due to religious

>beliefs then I dont think it makes sense if the physicians make you

>sign a waiver

>and then contact child protective services, since it IS the law that we dont

>have to.

It is rare that a physician would contact CPS for that

There is NOT a law that an infant or child has to vaccinated to live

The only laws are associated with school attendance as they knew they

could get more vaccine sold that way

There are liberal religious or philosophical exemptions available in

most states except WV and MS (and NY has a more restrictive one too)

But it is about school attendance

What state are you in? You follow the exact wording of the law for

the state you are in

Sheri

>Sabina

>

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[Guest guest]

At 04:45 PM 12/17/2008, you wrote:

>Hello,

>

>I am a new member. I was wondering what you all say when you dont want to

>have your child/children vaccinated? I do know in some states you

>can be exempted

>from vaccines due to religious beliefs, so is that the reason you all use?

>

>And is the law does indeed say that we can be excused due to religious

>beliefs then I dont think it makes sense if the physicians make you

>sign a waiver

>and then contact child protective services, since it IS the law that we dont

>have to.

It is rare that a physician would contact CPS for that

There is NOT a law that an infant or child has to vaccinated to live

The only laws are associated with school attendance as they knew they

could get more vaccine sold that way

There are liberal religious or philosophical exemptions available in

most states except WV and MS (and NY has a more restrictive one too)

But it is about school attendance

What state are you in? You follow the exact wording of the law for

the state you are in

Sheri

>Sabina

>

>

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