Re:WAS new to group and so confused NOW What helped me!

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Yes, as an older Mom myself, been at it for 24 years and have many more to

go with a 3 year old under foot, I agree that I do look at them differently now

though fortunately, I started looking at them a little cross eyed before my

first was born when I chose to birth at home to avoid the interventions that

could come in the hospital. I did have an ob gyn who supported home births

in that he would do pre-natals on my terms. He also served as a back up for

my midwife and ended up coming to the birth at the end when we discovered

that my first was a frank breech. And yes, it was a surprise eventhough I had

gone in to see him after my water broke. He missed it! Yes, the expert

palpitated and didn't realize that she was breech. But we got her delivered

and

she was healthy and gained 5 lbs the first month without any doctors or well

visits, etc. What really helped me to get my chops up when it came to dealing

with doctors was _Amazon.com: How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of Your

Doctor: S. Md Mendelsohn: Books_

(http://www.amazon.com/Raise-Healthy-Child-Spite-Doctor/dp/0345342763) After

reading his book, someone who had

been on the inside and revealed how little doctors really know about many

things and how much he believed that much of the modern medicine was a joke and

not geared towards health, I was empowered to stand up for my children and to

avoid all that they tell you, you should do, well baby visits, vaccines,

tylenol, etc. I avoided all of that and relied mostly on homeopathy for acute

illnesses that are inevitable. The one time that I let my guard down and

trusted a doctor with my 5 month old because she had a swelling behind her ear

and

though she had no fever or seemed ill in any other way, I was afraid that it

might be mastoiditis which can be very serious. So, I took her to an ENT who

belittled me for not bringing her sooner and sent us immediately 3 hours

away to Charity Hospital in New Orleans where we were told that she had a

classic case of mastoiditis and she was subjected to spinal tap, head xrays,

and a

surgery that we were told might leave her paralyzed on one side of her face.

While cutting behind her ear to check the problem they decided to go ahead

and puncture her eardrum because there most likely was infection. Well she

did not have an ear infection, nor did she have mastoiditis but rather only

had a staph infection from a scratch behind her ear. All that the original ENT

needed to do was culture it and then lance it but instead my daughter was

stuck on a contagious ward in a charity hospital with all kinds of sick kids

for days. They kept telling me that she was going to spike a fever. But she

never had a fever at ALL. I was livid and came up against the no vaccine

thing with them. They wanted me to meet with their infectious disease

specialist. I refused and left that place as soon as I could. I did not

follow up

with the antibiotics nor did I ever let them get their hands on any of my kids

after that. She has no long term effects other than she has like a nervous

cough if she puts something in or near her ear like a q-tip. She's almost 21

now and vaccine free still.

I just really encourage all young mom's to find a mentor here. Ask the

questions. Trust your gut and do not give in to their fear mongering and

bullying. They really only know a little about a lot of things and you should

never

trust them blindly with your children. Most are not healers but simply

pushers of pills and other poisions. I say this with confidence after 24 years

of exploration and thank God everyday that somehow, I learned what I did when

I did and was able to dodge their bullets for the most part!

Blessings,

Mavis

" If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines

they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who

live under tyranny. "

- Jefferson

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In a message dated 12/16/2008 8:49:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

wharrison@... writes:

I agree, Deb. I have to say that as I've gotten older, I look at the docs

differently-I agree, Deb. I have to say that as I've gotten older, I look at the

dnt here...). When I realize the person in front of me might have training,

but not the " time on the job " I've had, it is so much easier to go against

their recommendations. I had one ped, fresh out of med school, who kept trying

to give me the spiel about vaccines. I said, " look Sonny (I didn't actually

call him that!), I've been doing this awhile, and doing it well. You are

wasting your breath on me. Let's get on with the check up. I've got things to

do. "

As a new parent, and especially for younger parents, it is very difficult to

look at the docs as your equal. They are just people who did well in school

in the sciences and decided on medicine as a career path. They are not

anointed from on high with special powers or insight. They are just plain

people.

They are also one of the medical tools for us to use should we wish, but we

are the final authority on what's best for our children. That's the way I've

come to look at it, but it took a long time. I think new parents who are

questioning the docs on vaccines beforehand are incredibly insightful and

brave.

Winnie

Re: new to group and so confused

_Vaccinations@VaccinationsVac_ (mailto:Vaccinations )

> Dear Ayako,

> thanks for sharing your story with us. I think one of the

> amazing things about this forum is simply that this is an

> environment where people will give you opinions, advice and tips

> without biting your head off (well i think so

>

> What really disturbs me about your story, as well as many

> others' stories, is the concept that we dont question becasue we

> automatically assume (and why should we not?) that the doctors

> know what they're doing? They're the ones that spent years in

> med school - not me. They're the ones that keep updating their

> knowledge with the latest research - not me. And finally,

> they're the ones who have the weight of the world on their

> shoulders being the ones that have the power to heal (or G-d

> forbid destroy) another human life.

>

> Thats what really pisses me off - when we as " normal "

> pedestrians have to become the authority on the matter, when we

> cant trust the people who should know.

>

> thanks again for sharing with us -

> good luck with your research !!

>

> Deb

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Where in Louisiana are you located that you were close to New Orleans? I am

in shreveport.

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I lived in Lafayette where my first 2 daughters were born at home, but have

been on Cape Cod for 19 years now.

In a message dated 12/16/2008 11:08:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

klw3287@... writes:

Where in Louisiana are you located that you were close to New Orleans? I am

in shreveport.

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