Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Story sounds too familiar, but I do want to make a point just so people are aware as it is important as people do get tetnus..about 25 people die each year. Hardly a # I would vaccinate over, but the bacteria lies dormat in manure, feces, dust, and is really lots more places than people think.If the spores get into a cut or even a very small one then it needs no oxygen to live..thus causes the once dormat bacteria to begin to grow. I don't vaccinate either however I do think it's very important to understand the disease well, the symptoms, and how it spreads just so if something happened to your child you would be able to react intelligently. I didn't get crazy with my tetnus details here, but I would just read more up on it. It's one disease that freaks me out. > > So I went to visit my very mainstream sister today - thinks we're nuts > for not vaxing, takes a statin drug, is on antibiotics and sick ALL the > time. I found out at her physical this week she got the adult > tetanus/whooping cough vaccine booster. ARGH. So frustrating. I tried > to explain to her that she doesn't need a tetanus shot. She > said, " Well, just last week I accidentally stabbed a pencil into my leg > at work! " . I actually said to her, " Oh - did the pencil have animal > feces on it??? Because if not, there probably isn't a whole lot of an > issue! " . =) Anyway, I told that there hasn't been a reported case of > tetanus in our state for DECADES. She said, " Of course there hasn't > been - because everyone is vaccinated against it " . Trying to argue with > people gets very old very fast. > Just needed to vent. Thanks. > > Melinda C. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 I have never had a tetanus shot in my life, or would I ever get one. It seems to me that the diseases most people fear are the ones the Allopaths choose to scare everyone with. I talked to a retired nurse last year. After she spent 10 minutes telling me how dangerous tetanus was and why everybody should take the shot, I quietly said, really, how many cases of tetanus have you seen in your lifetime? She like froze her expression, and than very softly said none. So I pushed the issue a little further and asked when was your last tetanus shot? She didn't answer. But her silence answered for her. If some one has a disease and died, it doesn't mean that they died from the disease. You will find under investigation that they were being treated by the Allopath. This of course means they were given poisonous drugs, which put the body over the limit of poison it could handle. I agree people need to read more about tetanus and all other diseases and health remedy's.However, one has to be very selective about the source of information. If the book is full of scare tactics, I would not be to unnerved by their hype. It is usually written by someone who doesn't know anymore than the reader. Jim ________________________________ From: staceysarros <staceysarros@...> Vaccinations Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:43:01 PM Subject: Re: ARGH. Story sounds too familiar, but I do want to make a point just so people are aware as it is important as people do get tetnus..about 25 people die each year. Hardly a # I would vaccinate over, but the bacteria lies dormat in manure, feces, dust, and is really lots more places than people think.If the spores get into a cut or even a very small one then it needs no oxygen to live..thus causes the once dormat bacteria to begin to grow. I don't vaccinate either however I do think it's very important to understand the disease well, the symptoms, and how it spreads just so if something happened to your child you would be able to react intelligently. I didn't get crazy with my tetnus details here, but I would just read more up on it. It's one disease that freaks me out. > > So I went to visit my very mainstream sister today - thinks we're nuts > for not vaxing, takes a statin drug, is on antibiotics and sick ALL the > time. I found out at her physical this week she got the adult > tetanus/whooping cough vaccine booster. ARGH. So frustrating. I tried > to explain to her that she doesn't need a tetanus shot. She > said, " Well, just last week I accidentally stabbed a pencil into my leg > at work! " . I actually said to her, " Oh - did the pencil have animal > feces on it??? Because if not, there probably isn't a whole lot of an > issue! " . =) Anyway, I told that there hasn't been a reported case of > tetanus in our state for DECADES. She said, " Of course there hasn't > been - because everyone is vaccinated against it " . Trying to argue with > people gets very old very fast. > Just needed to vent. Thanks. > > Melinda C. > Messages in this topic (2) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Links | Database | Calendar MARKETPLACE ________________________________ From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods Change settings via the Web ( ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity * 12 New MembersVisit Your Group Health Healthy Aging Improve your quality of life. Sell Online Start selling with our award-winning e-commerce tools. Y! Groups blog The place to go to stay informed on Groups news! .. __,_.._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I have a sister and brother in law like that, wifes sister, he was a Blair man. We avoid medical and political subjects! Last I heard he was trying to get her on statins, and he is on something for stress. Born sucker for the allopaths, anything they say he follows. Tetanus jab http://whale.to/vaccines/tetanus.html One point to remember is the fact the allopaths have suppressed two cures for infections (at least)--vitamin C and ozone therapy, for over 60 years. " How can the Tetanus vaccine induce immunity, when contracting the disease naturally does not give immunity? " --NVIC " A tetanus vaccination cannot possibly protect from the disease since the human organism cannot build up any immunity after contracting the disease (as is the same after HIB, diphtheria or TB). So, if nature hasn't planned the immunity, how does the vaccine work? Furthermore, the tetanus vaccination (as is the case with the diphtheria vaccine) is a so-called toxoid vaccine. The killed poison of the tetanus bacilli is injected into the body and meant to protect us. But the human body cannot build up immunity against poisons31. How can the vaccine protect us then? The official statistics of the various countries show us that the vaccine does not protect us. The Koch Institute in Germany admits that 2/3 people who contract tetanus have been fully vaccinated32. The rate in Switzerland was 50% fully vaccinated and still contracted the disease. " ---Anita Petek-Dimmer Heck, there are only something like 5 cases of tetanus per year in the entire U.S., and the major risk factors are IV drug use, major burns, and stasis ulcers in the elderly. I only saw 2 cases in my very intensive medical training, both major (>50% whole body) burns. Most docs have never seen it. Tetanus/Vaccines/more From Will , Homeopath Did you know there is NO diagnostic test for tetanus? So how do we know a person actually has tetanus. Symptoms of tetanus are similar to symptoms of some other toxic poisonings. We have no test to prove the person has tetanus. And good wound care is far and away your best treatment for dirty injuries. And the risk for tetanus is not the same in every area of the country. And tetanus vaccine is one vaccine that I get many many emails on from people telling me of damage to themselves or their children that doesn't go away - tetanus like symptoms. The vaccine is so extremely toxic its been diluted and diluted.........and still causing problems in some. And does it even work? Questionable.--Sheri Nakken RN http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/tetanus.htm " Tetanus is a very rare disease in developed countries: there are only about 12 cases of tetanus per year in Australia, and half of those who got it were vaccinated. Perhaps the most interesting thing about tetanus is that those who get it do not develop immunity to it.........Far from immunising, tetanus (and other) vaccine injections make the recipients more susceptible to diseases. .......the New England Journal of Medicine published in 1984 that tetanus booster injections result in the same derangement of T4 and T8 cells as seen in AIDS patients. A 'mysterious' new syndrome emerged in the US: thousands of children are developing AIDS symptoms (with deranged T4 and T8 cells) without being HIV positive My well-considered opinion is that it comes from that T (standing for tetanus) in the DPT vaccine. " ---Viera Scheibner " Classen's data and other published data indicates the following vaccines are associated with an increased risk of diabetes (increased risk): hepatitis B (50%), hemophilus (25%), tetanus (20%), diphtheria (9%), pertussis (25%), mumps- rubella (23%). These findings are supported by a case control study performed in Europe. The cumulative effect of all these vaccines on diabetes is tremendous. " --PRNewswire " Wounds that bleed will never result in tetanus because the tetanus bacillus is anaerobic. It is absolutely silly to vaccinate boys who cut their knees. The only reason behind that is money. " --Dr Buchwald MD " If your immunisation income is below the national average, offer tetanus boosters for adults who have not received one in the preceding 10 years. Also pick up those who have never had a primary course. You could do this opportunistically during consultations or by recall from the computer. Check on immunisation status at new patient checks. With tetanus (as well as typhoid and infectious hepatitis), you can generate income from reimbursement for personally administered vaccine under paragraph 44.5 of the Red Book. " ---Financial Pulse " In Philadelphia and vicinity there were in the autumn of 1901 no fewer than thirty-six cases of tetanus, or lockjaw, which were admitted to have resulted from vaccination, and nearly all were fatal. " -- Pitcairn " Now it happened that wood was particularly scarce (in) the country, so the cases of the anti-tetanic serum were a God-send as kindling, as we were badly in want of tea. As regards the anti-tetanic serum we chucked the bottles full of it over the trenches also; it went over the top after the dead Turks. " --Lt Col Donegan (1925) ARGH. So I went to visit my very mainstream sister today - thinks we're nuts for not vaxing, takes a statin drug, is on antibiotics and sick ALL the time. I found out at her physical this week she got the adult tetanus/whooping cough vaccine booster. ARGH. So frustrating. I tried to explain to her that she doesn't need a tetanus shot. She said, " Well, just last week I accidentally stabbed a pencil into my leg at work! " . I actually said to her, " Oh - did the pencil have animal feces on it??? Because if not, there probably isn't a whole lot of an issue! " . =) Anyway, I told that there hasn't been a reported case of tetanus in our state for DECADES. She said, " Of course there hasn't been - because everyone is vaccinated against it " . Trying to argue with people gets very old very fast. Just needed to vent. Thanks. Melinda C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I get that answer a lot. I say, oh, really? Everyone? How do you know? Does " everyone " check in with you personally? Or are you just taking the word of those who profit from vaccines? It's just not true. There is NO vaccine that " everyone " has gotten. Winnie ARGH. Vaccinations > So I went to visit my very mainstream sister today - thinks > we're nuts > for not vaxing, takes a statin drug, is on antibiotics and sick > ALL the > time. I found out at her physical this week she got the adult > tetanus/whooping cough vaccine booster. ARGH. So frustrating. I > tried > to explain to her that she doesn't need a tetanus shot. She > said, " Well, just last week I accidentally stabbed a pencil into > my leg > at work! " . I actually said to her, " Oh - did the pencil have > animal > feces on it??? Because if not, there probably isn't a whole lot > of an > issue! " . =) Anyway, I told that there hasn't been a reported > case of > tetanus in our state for DECADES. She said, " Of course there > hasn't > been - because everyone is vaccinated against it " . Trying to > argue with > people gets very old very fast. > Just needed to vent. Thanks. > > Melinda C. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I've never known a soul, human or animal, who had it. You know, you can get tetanus over and over again. How can a vaccine prevent something that even nature doesn't provide immunity to? It may be something to worry about but, for me anyway, vaccines don't even enter the picture as a possible solution. Winnie Re: ARGH. Vaccinations > Story sounds too familiar, but I do want to make a point just so > people are aware as it is important as people do get > tetnus..about 25 > people die each year. Hardly a # I would vaccinate over, but the > bacteria lies dormat in manure, feces, dust, and is really lots > more > places than people think.If the spores get into a cut or even a > very > small one then it needs no oxygen to live..thus causes the once > dormat bacteria to begin to grow. I don't vaccinate either > however I > do think it's very important to understand the disease well, the > symptoms, and how it spreads just so if something happened to > your > child you would be able to react intelligently. I didn't get > crazy > with my tetnus details here, but I would just read more up on > it. > It's one disease that freaks me out. > > > > > > > > So I went to visit my very mainstream sister today - thinks > we're > nuts > > for not vaxing, takes a statin drug, is on antibiotics and > sick ALL > the > > time. I found out at her physical this week she got the adult > > tetanus/whooping cough vaccine booster. ARGH. So frustrating. > I > tried > > to explain to her that she doesn't need a tetanus shot. She > > said, " Well, just last week I accidentally stabbed a pencil > into my > leg > > at work! " . I actually said to her, " Oh - did the pencil have > animal > > feces on it??? Because if not, there probably isn't a whole > lot of > an > > issue! " . =) Anyway, I told that there hasn't been a reported > case > of > > tetanus in our state for DECADES. She said, " Of course there > hasn't > > been - because everyone is vaccinated against it " . Trying to > argue > with > > people gets very old very fast. > > Just needed to vent. Thanks. > > > > Melinda C. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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