Re: VENTING: hep b waiver for career

[Guest guest]

Hi Kitty, not sure what your age is but I was a nurse for a long time and I

was able to escape " mandatory " vaccines by saying (and one of these was always

true at the time) that I was either: 1) pregnant; 2) might be pregnant; 3)

trying to get pregnant; 4) breastfeeding. If any of these apply, you should

be able to use them throughout your childbearing years :-)

Becca

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I'm 30. Yes, I'm breastfeeding at 8.5 months & plan to continue until

there's no more (w/in reason), but the woman also said that at one time, the

college had to defer admission to a student that was pregnant & hence unable

to receive the vaccine. Thank you for your input.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:34 AM, <moftap@...> wrote:

> Hi Kitty, not sure what your age is but I was a nurse for a long time

> and I

> was able to escape " mandatory " vaccines by saying (and one of these was

> always

> true at the time) that I was either: 1) pregnant; 2) might be pregnant; 3)

> trying to get pregnant; 4) breastfeeding. If any of these apply, you should

>

> be able to use them throughout your childbearing years :-)

>

> Becca

>

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[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry....Sheri warned us all recently about becoming nurses or

even teachers. Forced vaccination is coming to America - not just

California. Have you thought about getting into alternative medicine

by any chance? California is behind a huge movement in this

direction I've heard.

>

> Greetings, Ladies & Gents,

>

> I hope you don't mind me deviating from childhood vaccines to

adults - but I

> NEED to vent & nobody else will listen to me about vaccines b/c

they don't

> see it like I do. So, move onto the next message if you're not

interested.

>

> Here's the story. Several months ago, I decided it's time for a

career

> change. I have my B.S. in Aeronautics (I'm a pilot), but being 30

y/o &

> recently furloughed (laid off) w/ no financial future, I decided

that I need

> a stable income (in a field that interests me, no doubt) for me &

my family

> (notably my daughter, Hailey). I've been looking into being an

R.N., b/c

> quite honestly, I thought I'd enjoy the dynamic pace, it's not too

expensive

> or time consuming to achieve an A.S. degree, & I wanted to be 'that

nurse'

> that could make a difference (haven't we all heard that before);I

wanted to

> stray away from mainstream, allopathic nursing & not be so hell

bent on it

> so patients wouldn't feel like they'd have a choice but to comply

w/ hazards

> of whatever medication they're told to ingest.

>

> Well, forget that. I thought I knew what I wanted & now it's all

gone to

> hell.

>

> I'm not done w/ my research, b/c I just found the following out

today: the

> community college I was looking to attend (should I be admitted,

since

> admission is on a lottery basis) won't consider me for R.N. (or

C.N.A.)

> admission because I'd opt for a philoshical exemption to the

Hepatitis B

> vaccine. Maybe I opened my mouth too much, but that's what I

said. The

> Nursing department secretary was helpful & sent an email out

stating my

> case. She got a quick reply & forwarded it to me, & it firmly said

that the

> clinical sites WILL NOT permit a philosophical exemption for hep b

vaccine.

> EXCUSE ME? You're really kidding me, right? A medical exemption is

no

> problem - sure they'll be happy to host those folks at the clinical

sites,

> but if you have a PERSONAL PREFERENCE & well know that your good

health

> could be in danger by receiving the vaccine - YOU'RE SHAFTED?

Maybe this is

> a sign, I've thought. A sign that this vaccine business ( &

whatever else

> that I'm not yet acquainted w/ yet, regarding nursing) is a

fundamental

> difference between myself & the nursing community that is telling

me not to

> proceed; maybe what's happening now will, in a few years, be the

least of my

> worries should I press on & encounter more cr*p. I know I

mentioned nursing

> to Sheri a few months ago, & she said (not in these words) that

it's 'messed

> up' & to 'try something else.'

>

> AND THIS IS CALIFORNIA, PEOPLE!! I thought I wouldn't run into a

brick wall

> on this issue in this state.

>

> So I'm contemplating contacting local Bay Area hospitals & point

blank

> asking them about the philosophical hep b waiver. But then what - I

give

> my *bling*bling* information to the school, should it be contrary

to what

> they've advised, waiving it in their face & actually expect to be

treated w/

> respect by them?

>

> Regarding a medical exemption, I wonder if I can get one, if I talk

to the

> right doctor on the right day at the right time. Maybe he'd not

question

> it. Ya think?

>

> Am I totally out of my mind? Really - I'm nearly desperate to

proceed

> onward & upward w/ a new career. My bank account needs it, & so

does my

> daughter.

>

> Best,

>

> Kitty

>

> P.S. Thanks for reading. I'm in a tizzy.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The institute of Classical Homeopathy is right across the bay in SF. For

many months now, I've aspired to go.

To convince my partner to not vaccinate our daughter, we visited a holistic

pediatrician, who used to practice in Hungary (one of my favorite places).

She said that there is no choice to opt out of vaccines there - it's totally

mandatory. What a crock, ya know? If the government, for whatever the

& *^%$@#^ & * it's worth, would realize that they'd be saving the gene pool &

inspiring citizens to look out for their greater good, be resourceful, etc.

- they'd nix forced vaccination. They're truly going to destroy their

people (after destroying everybody else's - from poorer nations used as

'testbeds') through their crazy antics.

I worry.

Kitty

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Dawn <dawndanc@...> wrote:

> I'm so sorry....Sheri warned us all recently about becoming nurses or

> even teachers. Forced vaccination is coming to America - not just

> California. Have you thought about getting into alternative medicine

> by any chance? California is behind a huge movement in this

> direction I've heard.

>

>

> >

> > Greetings, Ladies & Gents,

> >

> > I hope you don't mind me deviating from childhood vaccines to

> adults - but I

> > NEED to vent & nobody else will listen to me about vaccines b/c

> they don't

> > see it like I do. So, move onto the next message if you're not

> interested.

> >

> > Here's the story. Several months ago, I decided it's time for a

> career

> > change. I have my B.S. in Aeronautics (I'm a pilot), but being 30

> y/o &

> > recently furloughed (laid off) w/ no financial future, I decided

> that I need

> > a stable income (in a field that interests me, no doubt) for me &

> my family

> > (notably my daughter, Hailey). I've been looking into being an

> R.N., b/c

> > quite honestly, I thought I'd enjoy the dynamic pace, it's not too

> expensive

> > or time consuming to achieve an A.S. degree, & I wanted to be 'that

> nurse'

> > that could make a difference (haven't we all heard that before);I

> wanted to

> > stray away from mainstream, allopathic nursing & not be so hell

> bent on it

> > so patients wouldn't feel like they'd have a choice but to comply

> w/ hazards

> > of whatever medication they're told to ingest.

> >

> > Well, forget that. I thought I knew what I wanted & now it's all

> gone to

> > hell.

> >

> > I'm not done w/ my research, b/c I just found the following out

> today: the

> > community college I was looking to attend (should I be admitted,

> since

> > admission is on a lottery basis) won't consider me for R.N. (or

> C.N.A.)

> > admission because I'd opt for a philoshical exemption to the

> Hepatitis B

> > vaccine. Maybe I opened my mouth too much, but that's what I

> said. The

> > Nursing department secretary was helpful & sent an email out

> stating my

> > case. She got a quick reply & forwarded it to me, & it firmly said

> that the

> > clinical sites WILL NOT permit a philosophical exemption for hep b

> vaccine.

> > EXCUSE ME? You're really kidding me, right? A medical exemption is

> no

> > problem - sure they'll be happy to host those folks at the clinical

> sites,

> > but if you have a PERSONAL PREFERENCE & well know that your good

> health

> > could be in danger by receiving the vaccine - YOU'RE SHAFTED?

> Maybe this is

> > a sign, I've thought. A sign that this vaccine business ( &

> whatever else

> > that I'm not yet acquainted w/ yet, regarding nursing) is a

> fundamental

> > difference between myself & the nursing community that is telling

> me not to

> > proceed; maybe what's happening now will, in a few years, be the

> least of my

> > worries should I press on & encounter more cr*p. I know I

> mentioned nursing

> > to Sheri a few months ago, & she said (not in these words) that

> it's 'messed

> > up' & to 'try something else.'

> >

> > AND THIS IS CALIFORNIA, PEOPLE!! I thought I wouldn't run into a

> brick wall

> > on this issue in this state.

> >

> > So I'm contemplating contacting local Bay Area hospitals & point

> blank

> > asking them about the philosophical hep b waiver. But then what - I

> give

> > my *bling*bling* information to the school, should it be contrary

> to what

> > they've advised, waiving it in their face & actually expect to be

> treated w/

> > respect by them?

> >

> > Regarding a medical exemption, I wonder if I can get one, if I talk

> to the

> > right doctor on the right day at the right time. Maybe he'd not

> question

> > it. Ya think?

> >

> > Am I totally out of my mind? Really - I'm nearly desperate to

> proceed

> > onward & upward w/ a new career. My bank account needs it, & so

> does my

> > daughter.

> >

> > Best,

> >

> > Kitty

> >

> > P.S. Thanks for reading. I'm in a tizzy.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I would check with these " clinical sites. " People in authority make a lot of

false assumptions and pass them along as if they're laws.

Winnie

VENTING: hep b waiver for career

Vaccinations

> Greetings, Ladies & Gents,

>

> I hope you don't mind me deviating from childhood vaccines to

> adults - but I

> NEED to vent & nobody else will listen to me about vaccines b/c

> they don't

> see it like I do. So, move onto the next message if you're not

> interested.

> Here's the story. Several months ago, I decided it's time for a

> careerchange. I have my B.S. in Aeronautics (I'm a pilot), but

> being 30 y/o &

> recently furloughed (laid off) w/ no financial future, I decided

> that I need

> a stable income (in a field that interests me, no doubt) for me

> & my family

> (notably my daughter, Hailey). I've been looking into being an

> R.N., b/c

> quite honestly, I thought I'd enjoy the dynamic pace, it's not

> too expensive

> or time consuming to achieve an A.S. degree, & I wanted to be

> 'that nurse'

> that could make a difference (haven't we all heard that

> before);I wanted to

> stray away from mainstream, allopathic nursing & not be so hell

> bent on it

> so patients wouldn't feel like they'd have a choice but to

> comply w/ hazards

> of whatever medication they're told to ingest.

>

> Well, forget that. I thought I knew what I wanted & now it's

> all gone to

> hell.

>

> I'm not done w/ my research, b/c I just found the following out

> today: the

> community college I was looking to attend (should I be admitted, since

> admission is on a lottery basis) won't consider me for R.N. (or

> C.N.A.)admission because I'd opt for a philoshical exemption to

> the Hepatitis B

> vaccine. Maybe I opened my mouth too much, but that's what I

> said. The

> Nursing department secretary was helpful & sent an email out

> stating my

> case. She got a quick reply & forwarded it to me, & it firmly

> said that the

> clinical sites WILL NOT permit a philosophical exemption for hep

> b vaccine.

> EXCUSE ME? You're really kidding me, right? A medical exemption

> is no

> problem - sure they'll be happy to host those folks at the

> clinical sites,

> but if you have a PERSONAL PREFERENCE & well know that your good

> healthcould be in danger by receiving the vaccine - YOU'RE

> SHAFTED? Maybe this is

> a sign, I've thought. A sign that this vaccine business ( &

> whatever else

> that I'm not yet acquainted w/ yet, regarding nursing) is a

> fundamentaldifference between myself & the nursing community

> that is telling me not to

> proceed; maybe what's happening now will, in a few years, be the

> least of my

> worries should I press on & encounter more cr*p. I know I

> mentioned nursing

> to Sheri a few months ago, & she said (not in these words) that

> it's 'messed

> up' & to 'try something else.'

>

> AND THIS IS CALIFORNIA, PEOPLE!! I thought I wouldn't run into

> a brick wall

> on this issue in this state.

>

> So I'm contemplating contacting local Bay Area hospitals & point blank

> asking them about the philosophical hep b waiver. But then what -

> I give

> my *bling*bling* information to the school, should it be

> contrary to what

> they've advised, waiving it in their face & actually expect to

> be treated w/

> respect by them?

>

> Regarding a medical exemption, I wonder if I can get one, if I

> talk to the

> right doctor on the right day at the right time. Maybe he'd not

> questionit. Ya think?

>

> Am I totally out of my mind? Really - I'm nearly desperate to proceed

> onward & upward w/ a new career. My bank account needs it, & so

> does my

> daughter.

>

> Best,

>

> Kitty

>

> P.S. Thanks for reading. I'm in a tizzy.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree! I mentioned that in the end of the email, that I was wanting to

contact the clinical sites & indeed uncover the truth. I will not be a

follower.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:56 PM, <wharrison@...> wrote:

> I would check with these " clinical sites. " People in authority make a

> lot of false assumptions and pass them along as if they're laws.

>

> Winnie

>

> VENTING: hep b waiver for career

> Vaccinations <Vaccinations%40>

>

> > Greetings, Ladies & Gents,

> >

> > I hope you don't mind me deviating from childhood vaccines to

> > adults - but I

> > NEED to vent & nobody else will listen to me about vaccines b/c

> > they don't

> > see it like I do. So, move onto the next message if you're not

> > interested.

> > Here's the story. Several months ago, I decided it's time for a

> > careerchange. I have my B.S. in Aeronautics (I'm a pilot), but

> > being 30 y/o &

> > recently furloughed (laid off) w/ no financial future, I decided

> > that I need

> > a stable income (in a field that interests me, no doubt) for me

> > & my family

> > (notably my daughter, Hailey). I've been looking into being an

> > R.N., b/c

> > quite honestly, I thought I'd enjoy the dynamic pace, it's not

> > too expensive

> > or time consuming to achieve an A.S. degree, & I wanted to be

> > 'that nurse'

> > that could make a difference (haven't we all heard that

> > before);I wanted to

> > stray away from mainstream, allopathic nursing & not be so hell

> > bent on it

> > so patients wouldn't feel like they'd have a choice but to

> > comply w/ hazards

> > of whatever medication they're told to ingest.

> >

> > Well, forget that. I thought I knew what I wanted & now it's

> > all gone to

> > hell.

> >

> > I'm not done w/ my research, b/c I just found the following out

> > today: the

> > community college I was looking to attend (should I be admitted, since

> > admission is on a lottery basis) won't consider me for R.N. (or

> > C.N.A.)admission because I'd opt for a philoshical exemption to

> > the Hepatitis B

> > vaccine. Maybe I opened my mouth too much, but that's what I

> > said. The

> > Nursing department secretary was helpful & sent an email out

> > stating my

> > case. She got a quick reply & forwarded it to me, & it firmly

> > said that the

> > clinical sites WILL NOT permit a philosophical exemption for hep

> > b vaccine.

> > EXCUSE ME? You're really kidding me, right? A medical exemption

> > is no

> > problem - sure they'll be happy to host those folks at the

> > clinical sites,

> > but if you have a PERSONAL PREFERENCE & well know that your good

> > healthcould be in danger by receiving the vaccine - YOU'RE

> > SHAFTED? Maybe this is

> > a sign, I've thought. A sign that this vaccine business ( &

> > whatever else

> > that I'm not yet acquainted w/ yet, regarding nursing) is a

> > fundamentaldifference between myself & the nursing community

> > that is telling me not to

> > proceed; maybe what's happening now will, in a few years, be the

> > least of my

> > worries should I press on & encounter more cr*p. I know I

> > mentioned nursing

> > to Sheri a few months ago, & she said (not in these words) that

> > it's 'messed

> > up' & to 'try something else.'

> >

> > AND THIS IS CALIFORNIA, PEOPLE!! I thought I wouldn't run into

> > a brick wall

> > on this issue in this state.

> >

> > So I'm contemplating contacting local Bay Area hospitals & point blank

> > asking them about the philosophical hep b waiver. But then what -

> > I give

> > my *bling*bling* information to the school, should it be

> > contrary to what

> > they've advised, waiving it in their face & actually expect to

> > be treated w/

> > respect by them?

> >

> > Regarding a medical exemption, I wonder if I can get one, if I

> > talk to the

> > right doctor on the right day at the right time. Maybe he'd not

> > questionit. Ya think?

> >

> > Am I totally out of my mind? Really - I'm nearly desperate to proceed

> > onward & upward w/ a new career. My bank account needs it, & so

> > does my

> > daughter.

> >

> > Best,

> >

> > Kitty

> >

> > P.S. Thanks for reading. I'm in a tizzy.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Good for you! Problems like these are what motivate people to fight back. Go,

Kitty!

Winnie

VENTING: hep b waiver for career

> > Vaccinations

> >

> > > Greetings, Ladies & Gents,

> > >

> > > I hope you don't mind me deviating from childhood vaccines to

> > > adults - but I

> > > NEED to vent & nobody else will listen to me about vaccines b/c

> > > they don't

> > > see it like I do. So, move onto the next message if you're not

> > > interested.

> > > Here's the story. Several months ago, I decided it's time

> for a

> > > careerchange. I have my B.S. in Aeronautics (I'm a pilot), but

> > > being 30 y/o &

> > > recently furloughed (laid off) w/ no financial future, I decided

> > > that I need

> > > a stable income (in a field that interests me, no doubt) for me

> > > & my family

> > > (notably my daughter, Hailey). I've been looking into being an

> > > R.N., b/c

> > > quite honestly, I thought I'd enjoy the dynamic pace, it's not

> > > too expensive

> > > or time consuming to achieve an A.S. degree, & I wanted to be

> > > 'that nurse'

> > > that could make a difference (haven't we all heard that

> > > before);I wanted to

> > > stray away from mainstream, allopathic nursing & not be so hell

> > > bent on it

> > > so patients wouldn't feel like they'd have a choice but to

> > > comply w/ hazards

> > > of whatever medication they're told to ingest.

> > >

> > > Well, forget that. I thought I knew what I wanted & now it's

> > > all gone to

> > > hell.

> > >

> > > I'm not done w/ my research, b/c I just found the following out

> > > today: the

> > > community college I was looking to attend (should I be

> admitted, since

> > > admission is on a lottery basis) won't consider me for R.N. (or

> > > C.N.A.)admission because I'd opt for a philoshical exemption to

> > > the Hepatitis B

> > > vaccine. Maybe I opened my mouth too much, but that's what I

> > > said. The

> > > Nursing department secretary was helpful & sent an email out

> > > stating my

> > > case. She got a quick reply & forwarded it to me, & it firmly

> > > said that the

> > > clinical sites WILL NOT permit a philosophical exemption for hep

> > > b vaccine.

> > > EXCUSE ME? You're really kidding me, right? A medical exemption

> > > is no

> > > problem - sure they'll be happy to host those folks at the

> > > clinical sites,

> > > but if you have a PERSONAL PREFERENCE & well know that your good

> > > healthcould be in danger by receiving the vaccine - YOU'RE

> > > SHAFTED? Maybe this is

> > > a sign, I've thought. A sign that this vaccine business ( &

> > > whatever else

> > > that I'm not yet acquainted w/ yet, regarding nursing) is a

> > > fundamentaldifference between myself & the nursing community

> > > that is telling me not to

> > > proceed; maybe what's happening now will, in a few years, be the

> > > least of my

> > > worries should I press on & encounter more cr*p. I know I

> > > mentioned nursing

> > > to Sheri a few months ago, & she said (not in these words) that

> > > it's 'messed

> > > up' & to 'try something else.'

> > >

> > > AND THIS IS CALIFORNIA, PEOPLE!! I thought I wouldn't run into

> > > a brick wall

> > > on this issue in this state.

> > >

> > > So I'm contemplating contacting local Bay Area hospitals &

> point blank

> > > asking them about the philosophical hep b waiver. But then

> what -

> > > I give

> > > my *bling*bling* information to the school, should it be

> > > contrary to what

> > > they've advised, waiving it in their face & actually expect to

> > > be treated w/

> > > respect by them?

> > >

> > > Regarding a medical exemption, I wonder if I can get one, if I

> > > talk to the

> > > right doctor on the right day at the right time. Maybe he'd not

> > > questionit. Ya think?

> > >

> > > Am I totally out of my mind? Really - I'm nearly desperate

> to proceed

> > > onward & upward w/ a new career. My bank account needs it, & so

> > > does my

> > > daughter.

> > >

> > > Best,

> > >

> > > Kitty

> > >

> > > P.S. Thanks for reading. I'm in a tizzy.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Not much time at the moment but they didn't tell you there is an OSHA

exmeption for hep b vax for workplace.

i think Univ in Calif also have exemptions - I would have to look

But don't recommend anyone become a nurse as you will have to have

others vaxs to work in hospitals, etc..........(except OSHA exemption

for hep b vax)

http://www.wellwithin1.com/hepatitisb.htm

also you will not be able to be what you want to be as a nurse and

will have to do all sorts of things you won't agree with, including

vaccinate others

Sheri

Maybe this is

>a sign, I've thought. A sign that this vaccine business ( & whatever else

>that I'm not yet acquainted w/ yet, regarding nursing) is a fundamental

>difference between myself & the nursing community that is telling me not to

>proceed; maybe what's happening now will, in a few years, be the least of my

>worries should I press on & encounter more cr*p. I know I mentioned nursing

>to Sheri a few months ago, & she said (not in these words) that it's 'messed

>up' & to 'try something else.'

yes, its a sign

>AND THIS IS CALIFORNIA, PEOPLE!! I thought I wouldn't run into a brick wall

>on this issue in this state.

>

>So I'm contemplating contacting local Bay Area hospitals & point blank

>asking them about the philosophical hep b waiver. But then what - I give

>my *bling*bling* information to the school, should it be contrary to what

>they've advised, waiving it in their face & actually expect to be treated w/

>respect by them?

See OSHA exemption from my webpage

>Regarding a medical exemption, I wonder if I can get one, if I talk to the

>right doctor on the right day at the right time. Maybe he'd not question

>it. Ya think?

no you won't get one

>Am I totally out of my mind? Really - I'm nearly desperate to proceed

>onward & upward w/ a new career. My bank account needs it, & so does my

>daughter.

Find somewhere else to make a difference, is my opinion

Massage therapist

acupuncturist

chiropractor

to name a few

Sher

--------------------------------------------------------

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