Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 I have two rules of thought on this. 1) it's too new to know if there will be any problems with it. Reminds me of the Rotovirus vaccination. My child or myself for that matter will not be a case study for if it will work and not have problems afterwards. 2) I don't even know that Macey will respond to it. Why take that chance. Just like any other vaccination those who get it will donate plasma and sooner or later some of the antibodies will end up in her infusion. They are only saying that those sexully active should get and the reason they set the age at 9 is because believe it or not there are sexually active 10 and 11 year olds. But being the naive mom that I am, I know that my 11 year old, horse happy, Hannah Montanna watching 6th grader has not inclination as to what a boy is or what to do with them. Call me stupid. Ursula - mom to (14) and Macey (11, CVID) http://www.primaryimmune.org http://www.jmfworld.org http://caringbridge.org/ga/macey/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 My understanding is that PID's should not get any vaccines? Pam Tim - cvid ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 PID's on IgG replacement (IV or subq). PID's with t-cell problems should avoid live vaccinations (whether on IgG or not). Ursula - mom to (14) and Macey (11, CVID) http://www.primaryimmune.org http://www.jmfworld.org http://caringbridge.org/ga/macey/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 PID's with t-cell problems should avoid live vaccinations (whether on IgG or not). Ursula, what about living in the same house with a child that has to get a MMR shot? Janet, mom to Brittany, age 16, CVID & auto immune problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 What about flu shots?? Janet, mom to Brittany, age 16, CVID & auto-immune problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 I was told to avoid any child who had been given a live vaccine for 4 weeks due to viral shedding that could infect my PID kiddo. > > Ursula, what about living in the same house with a child that has to get a > MMR shot? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 -- Hi this is my understanding of the flu shot issue. 1.The vaccine is an attenuated vaccine or in other words it is not live. Therefore, in most cases it is safe for kids with PIDs. Our son receives one every year because the strain of virus changes every year. It come from the Eastern hemisphere to the Western hemisphere and a vaccine is made from the virus most common in the earlier winter season in the east. 2. Gammaglobulin helps with B-cell or Humoral immunity in relation to bacteria. Viruses are fought mostly with the T-cells and so gammagloulin does not help. 3.the issues with live vaccines is that some of our kids can actually pick up the disease from the live vaccine. (although I am hearing very innteresting info regarding using fluMist in the AIDS population to increase immunity to the flu something about how it is stored and transferred)this is contrary to what we have been told regarding live vaccines and their contagiousness. I will try to find the article I read. Dale and Ursula pipe in if I am wrong Barbie Lucas,11 CVID< Bipolar, SCIg - In , BBsmart2@... wrote: > > What about flu shots?? > > Janet, mom to Brittany, age 16, CVID & auto-immune problems > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 -- Hi this is my understanding of the flu shot issue. 1.The vaccine is an attenuated vaccine or in other words it is not live. Therefore, in most cases it is safe for kids with PIDs. Our son receives one every year because the strain of virus changes every year. It come from the Eastern hemisphere to the Western hemisphere and a vaccine is made from the virus most common in the earlier winter season in the east. 2. Gammaglobulin helps with B-cell or Humoral immunity in relation to bacteria. Viruses are fought mostly with the T-cells and so gammagloulin does not help. 3.the issues with live vaccines is that some of our kids can actually pick up the disease from the live vaccine. (although I am hearing very innteresting info regarding using fluMist in the AIDS population to increase immunity to the flu something about how it is stored and transferred)this is contrary to what we have been told regarding live vaccines and their contagiousness. I will try to find the article I read. Dale and Ursula pipe in if I am wrong Barbie Lucas,11 CVID< Bipolar, SCIg - In , BBsmart2@... wrote: > > What about flu shots?? > > Janet, mom to Brittany, age 16, CVID & auto-immune problems > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 I had read on this recently, wish I could find the site again ( Anyhow I asked our immuno about it. He said the site was correct in stating that you can't give a live vaccine to a kid with pid. The site said, " Avoid close contact with people who've had the flu mist vaccine " The shot is a dead version so there's no problem in being around those people. However the flu mist is a live vaccine & the person is shedding flu for 7 days. So a PID'r should avoid those who have had the flu mist with in the last 7 days. I asked the immuno how close is close contact? He said, " For Chandis- 6 feet " . So HOW do you know if someone has had the flu mist vaccine. Stefanie > > What about flu shots?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 If you know that someone's child has been given a live vaccine, can your child be around the adult/parent? - <glutenfree@...> wrote: I was told to avoid any child who had been given a live vaccine for 4 weeks due to viral shedding that could infect my PID kiddo. > > Ursula, what about living in the same house with a child that has to get a > MMR shot? > --------------------------------- Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 This is why some people won't shop in some of the retail stores like Walmart that do the flu-mist. Nobody knows how much more likely you are to pick up the flu while shopping in Walmart since they are doing the mist right there & people who have just recieved it are likely to do some shopping while there. - tessienhugh <tessie222@...> wrote: I had read on this recently, wish I could find the site again ( Anyhow I asked our immuno about it. He said the site was correct in stating that you can't give a live vaccine to a kid with pid. The site said, " Avoid close contact with people who've had the flu mist vaccine " The shot is a dead version so there's no problem in being around those people. However the flu mist is a live vaccine & the person is shedding flu for 7 days. So a PID'r should avoid those who have had the flu mist with in the last 7 days. I asked the immuno how close is close contact? He said, " For Chandis- 6 feet " . So HOW do you know if someone has had the flu mist vaccine. Stefanie > > What about flu shots?? --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Huh? Is this something you yourself won't do or have you actually heard of groups that avoid Wal-mart for this reason? Re: Re: HPV vaccine This is why some people won't shop in some of the retail stores like Walmart that do the flu-mist. Nobody knows how much more likely you are to pick up the flu while shopping in Walmart since they are doing the mist right there & people who have just recieved it are likely to do some shopping while there. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Macey got the MMR because she doesn't have any T-cell problems. So if the child has a t-cell defect then I would keep them away as long as the doctor says. Ursula - mom to (14) and Macey (11, CVID) http://www.primaryimmune.org http://www.jmfworld.org http://caringbridge.org/ga/macey/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 I read a column where the author was expressing their concern about the vaccines in Walmart because it is a medical service with potential side effects (to others who are unaware of the side effects) being offered in a non-medical setting. The column was posted to a listserve and several readers responded that they would avoid Walmarts for this reason. My local Walmart does not even offer the vaccine, so it is not an issue for me and my family. - Ursula Holleman <uahollem1@...> wrote: Huh? Is this something you yourself won't do or have you actually heard of groups that avoid Wal-mart for this reason? Re: Re: HPV vaccine This is why some people won't shop in some of the retail stores like Walmart that do the flu-mist. Nobody knows how much more likely you are to pick up the flu while shopping in Walmart since they are doing the mist right there & people who have just recieved it are likely to do some shopping while there. - --------------------------------- Check out the all-new beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Gardasil is designed to provide protection against four strains of Human Papilloma Virus. Types 16 and 18, the two strains out of more than 20 oncogenic (cancer-causing) types that are responsible for 60–70% of cervical cancer cases, and; Types 6 and 11, two of the many other strains associated with genital warts. As with many vaccines, some protection may be conferred against other strains as well, although this was not included in the approval studies. >> I had surgery just yesterday to remove anal warts. I'm not gay but I am POZ for HIV. Additionally, as I have learned recently, there are many sub-types and viriants all under the umbrella label of HPV. I was informed that the current vaccine is only effect against one type for certain and perhaps a few with similarities to it. I'm pretty confused, and pretty sore as well. > > Stay Well > > Grant> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Gardasil is designed to provide protection against four strains of Human Papilloma Virus. Types 16 and 18, the two strains out of more than 20 oncogenic (cancer-causing) types that are responsible for 60–70% of cervical cancer cases, and; Types 6 and 11, two of the many other strains associated with genital warts. As with many vaccines, some protection may be conferred against other strains as well, although this was not included in the approval studies. >> I had surgery just yesterday to remove anal warts. I'm not gay but I am POZ for HIV. Additionally, as I have learned recently, there are many sub-types and viriants all under the umbrella label of HPV. I was informed that the current vaccine is only effect against one type for certain and perhaps a few with similarities to it. I'm pretty confused, and pretty sore as well. > > Stay Well > > Grant> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Very pertinent and timely question and one I have raised at CPHVA conference last week. I have been asked to write about repercussions and resources for HPV and would welcome any info re immunisations. policies and immunisation teams. It seems ridiculous that each PCT lead school nurse is writing the same plan for HPV. I haven't heard about the 35 injections cut off and know for certain that we have done far more - in fact up to 100 in a morning session each if the going is good (ie no one faints, throws up or decides to move at the vital moment). We have skill mix in that we use band 5 staff nurses to immunise. Giving 3 jabs to a girl in 6 months is going to use all our school nurse charms and the fact that we will have to be doing thousands as we also have to do a 2 year catch up. We are going to need more nurses in our teams and I guess they will be band 5. Staff who are not qualified nurses should not be givng immunisations. HPV vaccine Hi all Ihave not been on the site for quite a long time but been watching all debates with interest. I am wondering what PCTs have thought about regarding the HPV vaccine next year. My understanding is that it will be 3 injections within a 6 month period which will have a huge impact on School Nursing as the preference is to give in school. I am also wondering if anyone are using skill mix teams and whether this is an option and what your skill mix teams consist of. Our present Immunisation policy also states that an immuniser gives a maximum of 35 injections each per session. Does anyone know where this has come from and the evidence base for it? Sorry for so many questions, you can see why I don't write in often!!Jane TerryActing Head of School NursingHerefordshire PCT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 ---Thanks Barbara, I have a feeling that the 35 came from the BCG immunisations and I have had experience in previous trusts but have never got to the bottom of the evidence base for it. Am just in the process of changing immunisation policy as have been carrying oxygen to sessions but now been advised that no longer need to do so. Will forward copy of policy when complete.Regards Jane In , " Barbara -Todd " <barbara.rt@...> wrote: > > Very pertinent and timely question and one I have raised at CPHVA conference last week. I have been asked to write about repercussions and resources for HPV and would welcome any info re immunisations. policies and immunisation teams. It seems ridiculous that each PCT lead school nurse is writing the same plan for HPV. I haven't heard about the 35 injections cut off and know for certain that we have done far more - in fact up to 100 in a morning session each if the going is good (ie no one faints, throws up or decides to move at the vital moment). We have skill mix in that we use band 5 staff nurses to immunise. Giving 3 jabs to a girl in 6 months is going to use all our school nurse charms and the fact that we will have to be doing thousands as we also have to do a 2 year catch up. We are going to need more nurses in our teams and I guess they will be band 5. Staff who are not qualified nurses should not be givng immunisations. > HPV vaccine > > > Hi all Ihave not been on the site for quite a long time but been > watching all debates with interest. I am wondering what PCTs have > thought about regarding the HPV vaccine next year. My understanding is > that it will be 3 injections within a 6 month period which will have a > huge impact on School Nursing as the preference is to give in school. I > am also wondering if anyone are using skill mix teams and whether this > is an option and what your skill mix teams consist of. Our present > Immunisation policy also states that an immuniser gives a maximum of 35 > injections each per session. Does anyone know where this has come from > and the evidence base for it? Sorry for so many questions, you can see > why I don't write in often!! > Jane Terry > Acting Head of School Nursing > Herefordshire PCT > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Thanks that will be great. HPV vaccine> > > Hi all Ihave not been on the site for quite a long time but been > watching all debates with interest. I am wondering what PCTs have > thought about regarding the HPV vaccine next year. My understanding is > that it will be 3 injections within a 6 month period which will have a > huge impact on School Nursing as the preference is to give in school. I > am also wondering if anyone are using skill mix teams and whether this > is an option and what your skill mix teams consist of. Our present > Immunisation policy also states that an immuniser gives a maximum of 35 > injections each per session. Does anyone know where this has come from > and the evidence base for it? Sorry for so many questions, you can see > why I don't write in often!!> Jane Terry> Acting Head of School Nursing> Herefordshire PCT> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Has anyone on the list gotten the hpv vaccine.. I though I read something that it probably wasn;t worthwhile for men?? or I think i read something that told me not to get this vax.. Am I right?? any thoughts?? thanksNew MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News more. Try it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 HPV is a common sexually transmitted disease passed on through genital contact (usually by intercourse) There are more that 100 subtypes of HPV. However 90% of cases of the infections are harmless and go away with out treatment. HPV vaccine contains virus like particles of only a four subtypes. Each dose has 9.56 mg of sodium chloride ..78 mg of L-histidine 50mcg of polysorbate 80 35mcg of sodium borate aprx 225 mcg of ALUMINUM Aluminum is neurotoxic-capable of damaging the nervous system among other serious reactions. Adverse reactions include: Guillain-Barre Syndrome Loss of Consciousness Seizures and Convulsions Swollen Body Parts Heart/Kidney Disorders Arthritus/Joint pain Difficulty Breathing Severe Rashes and Vomiting Miscarriages/ Birth Defects Menstral Irregularities Genital Warts/Lesions HPV infection Death Source: The Vaccine Safety Manual - N.Z. People should know what they are injecting into their bodies. Educate before you vaccinate/medicate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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