Re: OT: Migraine Medications

December 28, 2008

This so sucks for both of you. :-( I have suffered from migraines

for years, tried poisons, I mean meds, didn't work, made them worse

actually. Started discovering my triggers - MSG, perfumes (including

the ones in fabric softeners), muscle tension, stress, caffeine, there

are more but I can't think of them at the moment. She needs to look

at everything that goes in her mouth and nose on a daily basis, she

will find her triggers.

Is the hole in her heart called a PFO (Patent Foramen Ovale)? My 8yo

has one of those and I read that migraines can be a side effect. :-(

I'm hoping her's will close on it's own.

Don't let her name calling get you down, it's really hard to suffer

from migraines when it seems no one can help and a lot of people don't

believe you even have a real problem. :-( I'm sure she is very

frustrated, no excuse though.

*hugs*

)0(~~~)0(~~~)0(

Mom to Brittany, vag 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , c/s

06/28/97; Shayna, Inv T c/s 06/01/00, dx'd NCS 12/03/08; Thalea, VBA2C

06/24/07

MC - 04/20/08

Read Thalea's birth story here: http://www.jessicas-haven.com/baby.htm

Vaccine free since 1999.

Birth is NOT a medical event - http://www.birthaction.org

December 29, 2008

This is a tough one, especially when it's someone you cared deeply for. There

comes a point though, where we must recognise that people who choose drugs are

also autonomous adults who make their own choices, as we would like to be

allowed to do (by the mad medicos and politicians).

Excuse the religious bit here, but we are told to shake the dust from our

sandals and move on, if the truth is not accepted. I believe it is good advice

but it can be pretty painful. Even if she were to see the light, she would need

very close physical and mental support to withdraw from the drugs. You have done

what you can - you have presented the truth and been ridiculed and insulted.

Perhaps one day she will realise what a good friendship she spurned. If I was a

gambler, I would wager that every one of us has been in this position, and we

ALL will be again.

We don't want to be forced to vaccinate - they don't want to be forced to obey

the laws of health and eat their greens. You have given her the gift of

knowledge and planted the seeds for her. If she fails to water the seeds, that

is her decision. Tough call. My heart goes out to you and to her in her painful

ignorance.

Maracuja

From: cindylouwho_79 <cindylouwho_79@...>

Subject: OT: Migraine Medications

Vaccinations

Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 9:34 PM

I'm sorry this is off topic, but I so have to discuss this with

someone. My good friend suffers from migraines, in which her

migraines became worse about two and half years ago. I don't know why

they became worse, but she dropped out of college and was demoted at

work because of her migraines.

Anyway, she started to research on her own why her migraines became

worse, and she entered a medical study to link migraines with a hole

in the heart. She takes SEVERAL medications, and had surgery last

year to put a splint in her heart. She take alzheimer's medication,

anti-seizure medication, beta-blockers, pain killers, anti-

depressants, aspirin, and who knows what else. I have confronted her

on a few occations and voiced my concerns about her treatments. She

thinks that I am the uneducated one because I don't believe in

prescription drugs and I don't vaccinate my daughter. I have always

suffered from mild tics, and I take several vitamins and supplements,

which she says has never been medically proven. I get so hurt when

she attacks the way I take care of myself and my daughter.

She has a migraine blog, and today she called me a hypocrite, because

I take natural supplements without a doctors supervision, while

condeming people taking prescription drugs with a doctors

supervision. I am so mad, hurt, you name it. All I am trying to do is

to wake my friend up.

She trusts her doctors with all her heart, and I truly believe with

all my heart that I am going to be at my friends funeral very soon.

She will not listen to anyone, and goes and insults me because I

don't trust the medical community. A part of me wants to keep trying

to help her, and the other part of me wants to turn my back on her.

I guess we never get it through people's head. Why do I waste my

time, and then read about what a hypocrite I am in her blog? Should I

let her kill herself? Do any of you just end up turning your back on

people?

December 29, 2008

my DDIL uses feverfew successfully for abdominal migraine. She has been

BF for nearly 2 years so has avoided toxins like MSG, processed meats,

pesticides, poisonous cleaning solutions - can safely use Aubrey's perfume..Has

had one migraine in the past 3 years brought on by dehydration. Without feverfew

she used to have to be rehydrated in hospital due to uncontrolled vomiting.

Feverfew will resolve it within 3 hours, no hospital.

Maracuja

From: <OhioVaxInfo@...>

Subject: Re: OT: Migraine Medications

Vaccinations

Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 10:16 PM

This so sucks for both of you. :-( I have suffered from migraines

for years, tried poisons, I mean meds, didn't work, made them worse

actually. Started discovering my triggers - MSG, perfumes (including

the ones in fabric softeners), muscle tension, stress, caffeine, there

are more but I can't think of them at the moment. She needs to look

at everything that goes in her mouth and nose on a daily basis, she

will find her triggers.

Is the hole in her heart called a PFO (Patent Foramen Ovale)? My 8yo

has one of those and I read that migraines can be a side effect. :-(

I'm hoping her's will close on it's own.

Don't let her name calling get you down, it's really hard to suffer

from migraines when it seems no one can help and a lot of people don't

believe you even have a real problem. :-( I'm sure she is very

frustrated, no excuse though.

*hugs*

)0(~~~)0(~~~ )0(

Mom to Brittany, vag 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , c/s

06/28/97; Shayna, Inv T c/s 06/01/00, dx'd NCS 12/03/08; Thalea, VBA2C

06/24/07

MC - 04/20/08

Read Thalea's birth story here: http://www.jessicas -haven.com/ baby.htm

Vaccine free since 1999.

Birth is NOT a medical event - http://www.birthact ion.org

December 29, 2008

If you have already thrown her a life line, it is up to her now to grab hold

of it. I know you are only trying to help, but sometimes by pushing too hard

you just push people away, or make them push back even harder.

Becca

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December 29, 2008

On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Maracuja <howdurdago@...> wrote:

> my DDIL uses feverfew successfully for abdominal migraine. She has

> been BF for nearly 2 years so has avoided toxins like MSG, processed meats,

> pesticides, poisonous cleaning solutions - can safely use Aubrey's

> perfume..Has had one migraine in the past 3 years brought on by dehydration.

> Without feverfew she used to have to be rehydrated in hospital due to

> uncontrolled vomiting. Feverfew will resolve it within 3 hours, no hospital.

That's wonderful that she found something that works for her. I've

considered it, but I have them so rarely that I don't feel that any

outside help is really necessary. When I do have one it's generally

stress. lol

)0(~~~)0(~~~)0(

Mom to Brittany, vag 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , c/s

06/28/97; Shayna, Inv T c/s 06/01/00, dx'd NCS 12/03/08; Thalea, VBA2C

06/24/07

MC - 04/20/08

Read Thalea's birth story here: http://www.jessicas-haven.com/baby.htm

Vaccine free since 1999.

Birth is NOT a medical event - http://www.birthaction.org

December 29, 2008

It's very frustrating. My cynical viewpoint is that these people like to be sick

and on drugs. There really is nothing you can say to them. You're dealing with a

martyr.

As with any friendship, if it brings you happiness pursue it. If not, write it

off (easy to say, hard to do, I know). I would try to get a truce going first,

and say look, we can't agree on this so let's not discuss it any more.

Winnie

OT: Migraine Medications

Vaccinations

> I'm sorry this is off topic, but I so have to discuss this with

> someone. My good friend suffers from migraines, in which her

> migraines became worse about two and half years ago. I don't

> know why

> they became worse, but she dropped out of college and was

> demoted at

> work because of her migraines.

>

> Anyway, she started to research on her own why her migraines

> became

> worse, and she entered a medical study to link migraines with a

> hole

> in the heart. She takes SEVERAL medications, and had surgery

> last

> year to put a splint in her heart. She take alzheimer's

> medication,

> anti-seizure medication, beta-blockers, pain killers, anti-

> depressants, aspirin, and who knows what else. I have confronted

> her

> on a few occations and voiced my concerns about her treatments.

> She

> thinks that I am the uneducated one because I don't believe in

> prescription drugs and I don't vaccinate my daughter. I have

> always

> suffered from mild tics, and I take several vitamins and

> supplements,

> which she says has never been medically proven. I get so hurt

> when

> she attacks the way I take care of myself and my daughter.

>

> She has a migraine blog, and today she called me a hypocrite,

> because

> I take natural supplements without a doctors supervision, while

> condeming people taking prescription drugs with a doctors

> supervision. I am so mad, hurt, you name it. All I am trying to

> do is

> to wake my friend up.

>

> She trusts her doctors with all her heart, and I truly believe

> with

> all my heart that I am going to be at my friends funeral very

> soon.

> She will not listen to anyone, and goes and insults me because I

> don't trust the medical community. A part of me wants to keep

> trying

> to help her, and the other part of me wants to turn my back on her.

>

> I guess we never get it through people's head. Why do I waste my

> time, and then read about what a hypocrite I am in her blog?

> Should I

> let her kill herself? Do any of you just end up turning your

> back on

> people?

>

December 29, 2008

That's fantastic! Good for you! It's so affirming to hear of people who have

sorted most of their health problems without the use of poisonous drugs, which

often lead to more drugs to treat the side effects!