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In a message dated 02/05/2006 19:57:17 GMT Daylight Time, catherine.devereux@... writes:

Can anyone enlighten me as to what this is?

>>>Natural Cellular Defense - liquid Zeolites

Andy says its expenisve dirt

It does something more than that, need another couple of weeks and I;ll let you know hoe we are going. Looks like it would be working out at more expensive than TD DMPS - depends on dosing, we can;t get over 2 drops so far - so at this rate would last 6 months LOL

Watch this space

Mandi x

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Thanks Mandi - keep us posted, sounds interesting! Managed to get J back to school today although not 100% certain if he'll last the day! Don't know whats going on with him - he is totally spaced during the day and sems to be hyper at night. Am on last day of colloidal silver so hope its killed off any bad stuff, if indeed this is the cause of his problems!!!

On 02/05/06, Mum231ASD@... <Mum231ASD@...> wrote:

In a message dated 02/05/2006 19:57:17 GMT Daylight Time, catherine.devereux@...

writes:

Can anyone enlighten me as to what this is?

>>>Natural Cellular Defense - liquid Zeolites

Andy says its expenisve dirt

It does something more than that, need another couple of weeks and I;ll let you know hoe we are going. Looks like it would be working out at more expensive than TD DMPS - depends on dosing, we can;t get over 2 drops so far - so at this rate would last 6 months LOL

Watch this space

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Hi Mandi, is this stuff good? Or another hype that doesn't work?

Gail

>

>

> In a message dated 02/05/2006 19:57:17 GMT Daylight Time,

> catherine.devereux@... writes:

>

> Can anyone enlighten me as to what this is?

>

>

>

> >>>Natural Cellular Defense - liquid Zeolites

>

> Andy says its expenisve dirt

>

> It does something more than that, need another couple of weeks and

I;ll let

> you know hoe we are going. Looks like it would be working out at

more

> expensive than TD DMPS - depends on dosing, we can;t get over 2

drops so far - so at

> this rate would last 6 months LOL

>

> Watch this space

> Mandi x

>

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In a message dated 09/07/2006 23:39:30 GMT Daylight Time, katzorikristian@... writes:

We have been using it for just 8 days to date and the differences in language, behaviour, overall connectedness were there almost immediately. Still doing a very low dose. 3 drops a day.We have chelated with different chelators and have never had such a positive reaction so quickly. Hope it continues.

>>>Me too K, this is great news -go xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Mandi x

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Wish I had some wise words and advice to send your way but instead only

best wishes and hope that NCD works for you!

Natasa

>

> Hiya All

>

> I wanted to let you know that we have just started NCD today.

>

> We had a fone consult with Dr Usman yesterday and she was all for this

and

> is seeing some quite good stuff with this (her hubby is even on it, so

she must

> like it...).

>

> has a very high Thyroglobulin reading, this is an indicator of

> Thyroid Cancer in some people, gulp! We had it checked in the USA on

May 1st as

> part of the pre-testing that we are doing in order to see Dr Krigsman

> concerning s bowel issues. It was very high and we thought it

was wrong so we

> re-checked here and its still very high, lower than in the USA but way

high.

> The other thyroid readings are reportedly OK... Dr Usman would like

us to get

> an ultrasound as she had a colleague with a tumour (doesnt think

has

> this and neither do I!) but her thyroid, bloods etc were fine, but dr

U felt

> the small lumps. This is not always possible to do and especially not

with a

> kid with autism. So our paediatrician has spoken to the

endocrinologist her

> and they have said possibly its high due to inflammation, she will

re-check it

> soon.... Dr U agrees with this or possibly viral, infection etc. Hence

we are

> hoping that the NCD will address this.

>

> So just wondered if anyone had any comments about this... We are

starting

> with one drop and will build up very gradually.

>

> In a nutshell, the rest of the consult was about our Yasko stuff,

which

> shows basically low serotonin/dopamine probably because of ACE

deletion and

> Sulphite processing problem due to NOS mutation or is that SUOX, this

stuff really

> hurts my brain!! Also one of the CBS up-regulations but not the major

one...

>

> We are going to work a bit more on the gut, continue with the TD-EDTA

but

> hold the DMSA suppositories for now and see what happens with the NCD.

>

> Quite exciting really, will keepyou all posted.

>

> Lotsa Love Caroline

> xxx

>

[Guest guest]

Wish I had some wise words and advice to send your way but instead only

best wishes and hope that NCD works for you!

Natasa

>

> Hiya All

>

> I wanted to let you know that we have just started NCD today.

>

> We had a fone consult with Dr Usman yesterday and she was all for this

and

> is seeing some quite good stuff with this (her hubby is even on it, so

she must

> like it...).

>

> has a very high Thyroglobulin reading, this is an indicator of

> Thyroid Cancer in some people, gulp! We had it checked in the USA on

May 1st as

> part of the pre-testing that we are doing in order to see Dr Krigsman

> concerning s bowel issues. It was very high and we thought it

was wrong so we

> re-checked here and its still very high, lower than in the USA but way

high.

> The other thyroid readings are reportedly OK... Dr Usman would like

us to get

> an ultrasound as she had a colleague with a tumour (doesnt think

has

> this and neither do I!) but her thyroid, bloods etc were fine, but dr

U felt

> the small lumps. This is not always possible to do and especially not

with a

> kid with autism. So our paediatrician has spoken to the

endocrinologist her

> and they have said possibly its high due to inflammation, she will

re-check it

> soon.... Dr U agrees with this or possibly viral, infection etc. Hence

we are

> hoping that the NCD will address this.

>

> So just wondered if anyone had any comments about this... We are

starting

> with one drop and will build up very gradually.

>

> In a nutshell, the rest of the consult was about our Yasko stuff,

which

> shows basically low serotonin/dopamine probably because of ACE

deletion and

> Sulphite processing problem due to NOS mutation or is that SUOX, this

stuff really

> hurts my brain!! Also one of the CBS up-regulations but not the major

one...

>

> We are going to work a bit more on the gut, continue with the TD-EDTA

but

> hold the DMSA suppositories for now and see what happens with the NCD.

>

> Quite exciting really, will keepyou all posted.

>

> Lotsa Love Caroline

> xxx

>

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In a message dated 13/07/2006 14:48:38 GMT Standard Time, peta3366@... writes:

Hi Peta

Does Dr Usman recommend doing suppositories and NCD ( I know you said you were holding them for now)?

We are only not doing the suppositories right now because a) we are working a bit more on healing/helping her gut and the S part of DMSA may not be the best due to her genetics we got back from Yasko eg she has a bit of yeast from stool tests and we are going to work on this too.

Tried to look at NCD forum but am a technophobe. Is the idea that you are chelating more using the NCD with just the DMSA/DMPS ( using both together) hence the child is showing more improvements?

Mandi knows much more about this so hopefully will chip in... Dr U is seeing Mercury output on people using only NCD, I think she said, so I dont know about chelating more than those chelators, I think Mandi reckons that using both, the NCD will mop up any metals that the chelators havent gotten... Again not sure about more improvements but from what I understand the people who are on it are having good improvements on the whole

And is it supposed to help immune system as well?

It also helps regulate pH and is supposed to go after viruses as well many reckon... I think they know this because of the detox, virally rashes which seem to be common when using it.

How is doing with it?Have looked at old posts but am still trying to figure it out.

Too soon to say, is fine at the mo, touch wood, but we only started yesterday on one drop, and another one drop today so I shall keep you posted. We are going to keep her on that for a few days as we are going off this weekend for a few days and dont want any fallout whilst on our trip.

Lotsa Love Caroline

xxx

PS As I said I am no expert at all but for us I really wanted to try it because of possible viral issues and this thyroid thing that is going on...

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In a message dated 13/07/2006 14:48:53 GMT Daylight Time, peta3366@... writes:

Tried to look at NCD forum but am a technophobe

>>>You want the Autism NCD Group - its just liek this excpet they have 500+ members in less than 8 weeks or so - previous group that group that fast was Enzymes back in 2001.

AutismNCD/

So far I know of only two kids who did NOT see gains on NCD, they only used one bottle and less than a month so that isn't really a good trial, 4-5 months would be considered that. Whole lot less than most things

Up until about 2 weeks ago the posts were always very focused on NCd, they still are mostly but some Yasko discussion crept in there, otherwise the archives will rpovide a great read

Mandi x

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In a message dated 13/07/2006 14:48:53 GMT Daylight Time, peta3366@... writes:

Is the idea that you are chelating more using the NCD with just the DMSA/DMPS ( using both together) hence the child is showing more improvements? And is it supposed to help immune system as well?

>>>I think its doing at least 3 things, nnormalising pH, which is key to the body functioning optimially, displaces bad bugs, its doing something with viruses for sure with Sam, I have pulled the Russian Immune and we are still getting rashes, the pox one is back today but not as bad as before - it is same place as few weeks ago though AND maybe its pullign some metals too.

The DAN! with most experience started his pateints doign it with other chelators, DMPS,DMSA but now has them all on just NCD and seeing continued gains on that alone. Tough nuts, older kids, those not respondng to DAN! or waiting on Yasko.

I don't jump on bandwagons, but I am keeping my seatbelt on this wagon for sure

I think it does help with redistribution at the end of a regular round of chelation

Gotta go hairdresser is here

Mandi x

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Hi Caroline

Does Dr Usman recommend doing suppositories and NCD ( I know you

said you were holding them for now)?

Tried to look at NCD forum but am a technophobe. Is the idea that

you are chelating more using the NCD with just the DMSA/DMPS ( using

both together) hence the child is showing more improvements? And is

it supposed to help immune system as well?

How is doing with it?

Have looked at old posts but am still trying to figure it out.

Peta

-

-- In Autism Treatment , CarolineTraa@...

wrote:

>

> Hiya All

>

> I wanted to let you know that we have just started NCD today.

>

> We had a fone consult with Dr Usman yesterday and she was all for

this and

> is seeing some quite good stuff with this (her hubby is even on

it, so she must

> like it...).

>

> has a very high Thyroglobulin reading, this is an

indicator of

> Thyroid Cancer in some people, gulp! We had it checked in the USA

on May 1st as

> part of the pre-testing that we are doing in order to see Dr

Krigsman

> concerning s bowel issues. It was very high and we thought

it was wrong so we

> re-checked here and its still very high, lower than in the USA but

way high.

> The other thyroid readings are reportedly OK... Dr Usman would

like us to get

> an ultrasound as she had a colleague with a tumour (doesnt think

has

> this and neither do I!) but her thyroid, bloods etc were fine,

but dr U felt

> the small lumps. This is not always possible to do and especially

not with a

> kid with autism. So our paediatrician has spoken to the

endocrinologist her

> and they have said possibly its high due to inflammation, she will

re-check it

> soon.... Dr U agrees with this or possibly viral, infection etc.

Hence we are

> hoping that the NCD will address this.

>

> So just wondered if anyone had any comments about this... We are

starting

> with one drop and will build up very gradually.

>

> In a nutshell, the rest of the consult was about our Yasko stuff,

which

> shows basically low serotonin/dopamine probably because of ACE

deletion and

> Sulphite processing problem due to NOS mutation or is that SUOX,

this stuff really

> hurts my brain!! Also one of the CBS up-regulations but not the

major one...

>

> We are going to work a bit more on the gut, continue with the TD-

EDTA but

> hold the DMSA suppositories for now and see what happens with the

NCD.

>

> Quite exciting really, will keepyou all posted.

>

> Lotsa Love Caroline

> xxx

>

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Thanks Caroline

It does seem worth a go - will ask dr at next consult.

Have a good weekend.

Peta x--

- In Autism Treatment , CarolineTraa@...

wrote:

>

> In a message dated 13/07/2006 14:48:38 GMT Standard Time,

> peta3366@... writes:

>

> Hi Peta

>

> Does Dr Usman recommend doing suppositories and NCD ( I know you

> said you were holding them for now)?

> We are only not doing the suppositories right now because a) we

are working

> a bit more on healing/helping her gut and the S part of DMSA may

not be the

> best due to her genetics we got back from Yasko eg she has a bit

of yeast from

> stool tests and we are going to work on this too.

>

>

> Tried to look at NCD forum but am a technophobe. Is the idea that

> you are chelating more using the NCD with just the DMSA/DMPS (

using

> both together) hence the child is showing more improvements?

> Mandi knows much more about this so hopefully will chip in... Dr U

is seeing

> Mercury output on people using only NCD, I think she said, so I

dont know

> about chelating more than those chelators, I think Mandi reckons

that using

> both, the NCD will mop up any metals that the chelators havent

gotten... Again

> not sure about more improvements but from what I understand the

people who are

> on it are having good improvements on the whole

>

> And is

> it supposed to help immune system as well?

> It also helps regulate pH and is supposed to go after viruses as

well many

> reckon... I think they know this because of the detox, virally

rashes which

> seem to be common when using it.

>

>

> How is doing with it?

> Have looked at old posts but am still trying to figure it out.

> Too soon to say, is fine at the mo, touch wood, but we

only started

> yesterday on one drop, and another one drop today so I shall keep

you posted.

> We are going to keep her on that for a few days as we are going

off this

> weekend for a few days and dont want any fallout whilst on our

trip.

>

> Lotsa Love Caroline

> xxx

> PS As I said I am no expert at all but for us I really wanted to

try it

> because of possible viral issues and this thyroid thing that is

going on...

>

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In a message dated 16/07/2006 20:11:52 GMT Daylight Time, saqabisa@... writes:

hi i just came across this at mandi site and reading the studies it sound great one question to mandy and co does the child require to build up the gut system before they couldtake this. ie like chelation????

>>Nope, it will help the gut as per experience of others

or could with it being natural and safe start it now???

>>>IMHO yes, but you need to go slow and make sure the child stays well hydated

HTH

Mandi x

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Mandi,

Can I also ask a follow up question

Are you stirring up any yeast or seeing any other side effects? I know with

Valtrex yeast is a big problem.

If this is an effective antiviral and it isn't causing big side effects, it

would really be of interest.

Thanks,

Stuart

>From: " Kay Lowney " <kay.steve@...>

>Reply-Autism Treatment

>Autism Treatment

>Subject: NCD

>Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:13:27 -0000

>

>Hi Mandi

>

>I have been reading the NCD group list, following all your good

>reports. It looks really interesting, especially the viral angle.

>Something I am considering as the next step, but a question-

>

>Are you still chelating alongside NCD? or have you dropped this?

>

>Kay.

>

>

>

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In a message dated 19/07/2006 14:36:01 GMT Daylight Time, stuartfinnes1@... writes:

Can I also ask a follow up questionAre you stirring up any yeast or seeing any other side effects?

>>>Oh yes or.................. I should say OH YESSSSSSSSSSSSS - I feel like the clocks been turned back 3 years, yeast , bacteria ping pong going on here

I know with Valtrex yeast is a big problem.

>>>I think the gut bug troubles we have are down to viral stuff If this is an effective antiviral and it isn't causing big side effects, it would really be of interest.

>>>Don't think there is such a thing mate, however, I am out of the Russian stuff thingey and waiting on supplies from US, maybe that was helping things before after all because this only became a problem 2-3 weeks ago. Timimg fits with odd rashes we have had, I added a new one the other day and think I forget to post it

Nutritionally he is all up the creek I know it, fatty acids all out of sinc, B vits I suspect too, fed up with waiting for Heard now, going to ring IWDL spend the Caudwell money and get the tests done, end of.

I am in one of those strange situations where is is doing better than he ever has but I feel like I have lost all grip on the supps since the RBC mins went up the creek, gut bugs are taunting me and yesterday he started being Mr Slappy with the occasional pinch, today he has slapped every staff member in the class. It has been 30 degrees and he will have been mighty pissed off if they wouldn;t let him in the playground because of the sun. Spray bottles don't hack it for Sam - he wants a hose full blast poor little man.

Sure getting a lot of bang for my buck with NCD. He didn't have any today and given the weather and hydration issues I am going to stop until next week I think. I stopped with me 10 days ago as I just sit here leaking visably in this weather, I don;t do heat and if I drink anymore I would just float away

More info than you wnated I guess

Mandi x

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In a message dated 19/07/2006 18:54:33 GMT Daylight Time, Mum231ASD@... writes:

>>>Don't think there is such a thing mate, however, I am out of the Russian stuff thingey and waiting on supplies from US, maybe that was helping things before after all because this only became a problem 2-3 weeks ago. Timimg fits with odd rashes we have had, I added a new one the other day and think I forget to post it

Nutritionally he is all up the creek I know it, fatty acids all out of sinc, B vits I suspect too, fed up with waiting for Heard now, going to ring IWDL spend the Caudwell money and get the tests done, end of.

http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm

Link to the photos - I forgot before

Mandi

PS I just read Sam is school report from home school diary, he buried his head in my shoulder when I got to the bit where he was slappign teachers......................

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LOL

Sometimes the line between " comprehensive account " and " " too much detail " is

very fine.

What is the russian stuff?

I know diflucan (fluconazole) is the anti-fungal of choice on the

mb12 valtrex list - apparently it also has the added side benfits of

normalising testosterone and glutathione levels. Checked this with Chris

Heard and he supported this claim. It is hideously expensive though

We're going to give it a go, then do valtrex. We are awaiting both from

the breakespeare seem to be struggling with supply right now so I may

end up buying it myself. We're also on a waiting list for paromomycin -

which they're struggling to get hold of. So I'll probably get that as well.

In fact sod it, I'll buy them all today.

As for NCD - do you have any in stock at Mandi-mart?

>From: Mum231ASD@...

>Reply-Autism Treatment

>Autism Treatment

>Subject: Re: NCD

>Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:47:30 EDT

>

>

>In a message dated 19/07/2006 14:36:01 GMT Daylight Time,

>stuartfinnes1@... writes:

>

>Can I also ask a follow up question

>

>Are you stirring up any yeast or seeing any other side effects?

>

> >>>Oh yes or.................. I should say OH YESSSSSSSSSSSSS - I feel

>like

>the clocks been turned back 3 years, yeast , bacteria ping pong going on

>here

>

>

>I know with

>Valtrex yeast is a big problem.

>

>

> >>>I think the gut bug troubles we have are down to viral stuff

>

>

>If this is an effective antiviral and it isn't causing big side effects,

>it

>would really be of interest.

>

> >>>Don't think there is such a thing mate, however, I am out of the

>Russian

>stuff thingey and waiting on supplies from US, maybe that was helping

>things

>before after all because this only became a problem 2-3 weeks ago. Timimg

>fits with odd rashes we have had, I added a new one the other day and

>think I

>forget to post it

>

>

>Nutritionally he is all up the creek I know it, fatty acids all out of

>sinc,

>B vits I suspect too, fed up with waiting for Heard now, going to ring

>IWDL

>spend the Caudwell money and get the tests done, end of.

>

>I am in one of those strange situations where is is doing better than he

>ever has but I feel like I have lost all grip on the supps since the RBC

>mins

>went up the creek, gut bugs are taunting me and yesterday he started being

>Mr

>Slappy with the occasional pinch, today he has slapped every staff member

>in

>the class. It has been 30 degrees and he will have been mighty pissed off

>if

>they wouldn;t let him in the playground because of the sun. Spray bottles

>don't hack it for Sam - he wants a hose full blast poor little man.

>

>Sure getting a lot of bang for my buck with NCD. He didn't have any today

>and given the weather and hydration issues I am going to stop until next

>week I

>think. I stopped with me 10 days ago as I just sit here leaking visably in

>this weather, I don;t do heat and if I drink anymore I would just float

>away

>

>More info than you wnated I guess

>

>Mandi x

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Stuart,

Where will you get your valtrex from? I'm assuming you intend to buy it

without an rx? We're looking to try it too, so if you know where we can

get hold of some I'd be most grateful.

Many thanks

stuart finnes wrote:

>LOL

>

>Sometimes the line between " comprehensive account " and " " too much detail " is

>very fine.

>

>What is the russian stuff?

>

>I know diflucan (fluconazole) is the anti-fungal of choice on the

>mb12 valtrex list - apparently it also has the added side benfits of

>normalising testosterone and glutathione levels. Checked this with Chris

>Heard and he supported this claim. It is hideously expensive though

>

>We're going to give it a go, then do valtrex. We are awaiting both from

> the breakespeare seem to be struggling with supply right now so I may

>end up buying it myself. We're also on a waiting list for paromomycin -

>which they're struggling to get hold of. So I'll probably get that as well.

>

>In fact sod it, I'll buy them all today.

>

>As for NCD - do you have any in stock at Mandi-mart?

>

>

>

>

>

>>From: Mum231ASD@...

>>Reply-Autism Treatment

>>Autism Treatment

>>Subject: Re: NCD

>>Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:47:30 EDT

>>

>>

>>In a message dated 19/07/2006 14:36:01 GMT Daylight Time,

>>stuartfinnes1@... writes:

>>

>>Can I also ask a follow up question

>>

>>Are you stirring up any yeast or seeing any other side effects?

>>

>>

>>

>>>>>Oh yes or.................. I should say OH YESSSSSSSSSSSSS - I feel

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>like

>>the clocks been turned back 3 years, yeast , bacteria ping pong going on

>>here

>>

>>

>>I know with

>>Valtrex yeast is a big problem.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>>>>I think the gut bug troubles we have are down to viral stuff

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>If this is an effective antiviral and it isn't causing big side effects,

>>it

>>would really be of interest.

>>

>>

>>

>>>>>Don't think there is such a thing mate, however, I am out of the

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>Russian

>>stuff thingey and waiting on supplies from US, maybe that was helping

>>things

>>before after all because this only became a problem 2-3 weeks ago. Timimg

>>fits with odd rashes we have had, I added a new one the other day and

>>think I

>>forget to post it

>>

>>

>>Nutritionally he is all up the creek I know it, fatty acids all out of

>>sinc,

>>B vits I suspect too, fed up with waiting for Heard now, going to ring

>>IWDL

>>spend the Caudwell money and get the tests done, end of.

>>

>>I am in one of those strange situations where is is doing better than he

>>ever has but I feel like I have lost all grip on the supps since the RBC

>>mins

>>went up the creek, gut bugs are taunting me and yesterday he started being

>>Mr

>>Slappy with the occasional pinch, today he has slapped every staff member

>>in

>>the class. It has been 30 degrees and he will have been mighty pissed off

>>if

>>they wouldn;t let him in the playground because of the sun. Spray bottles

>>don't hack it for Sam - he wants a hose full blast poor little man.

>>

>>Sure getting a lot of bang for my buck with NCD. He didn't have any today

>>and given the weather and hydration issues I am going to stop until next

>>week I

>>think. I stopped with me 10 days ago as I just sit here leaking visably in

>>this weather, I don;t do heat and if I drink anymore I would just float

>>away

>>

>>More info than you wnated I guess

>>

>>Mandi x

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

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In a message dated 19/07/2006 12:22:19 GMT Daylight Time, kay.steve@... writes:

I have been reading the NCD group list, following all your good reports. It looks really interesting, especially the viral angle. Something I am considering as the next step, but a question-Are you still chelating alongside NCD? or have you dropped this?

>>>We have doen one round since starting NCD but I am waitign to do RBC minerals before I do anymore. I will do ALA for sure and probably DMSA once per month

HTH

Mandi x

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In a message dated 20/07/2006 12:20:30 GMT Daylight Time, stuartfinnes1@... writes:

What is the russian stuff?

>>>Its some herbs and dead probiotics http://www.springboard4health.com/store/more_russ_choice_gi.html

I know diflucan (fluconazole) is the anti-fungal of choice on the mb12 valtrex list - apparently it also has the added side benfits of normalising testosterone and glutathione levels. Checked this with Heard and he supported this claim. It is hideously expensive though

>>>I sent Dr H the papers that Dr McCandless used for this hypothesis. The testerone thing isn't a done deal as far as I can see but there is always the chanceWe're going to give it a go, then do valtrex. We are awaiting both from the breakespeare seem to be struggling with supply right now so I may end up buying it myself. We're also on a waiting list for paromomycin - which they're struggling to get hold of. So I'll probably get that as well.In fact sod it, I'll buy them all today.As for NCD - do you have any in stock at Mandi-mart?

>>Last one went today but have more coming this week

Mandi x

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In a message dated 12/09/2006 23:07:25 GMT Daylight Time, MaddiganV@... writes:

Anyone know if excess wind is normal with NCD?

>>>Not heard of that one but yeast is definitely on the cards here with NCD - maybehe is fermenting inside? We are doign Candex and extra probios and just about keeping on top of it, Sam is doign very well now back on NCD 2 weeks

Mandi x

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We have been on and off for a couple of months, unfortunately starting NCD coincided with running out of MB12, this has made it hard to know what to attribute the regression to.

We are back on at the moment but very low and slow, one drop a day and resting every 3 days.

So hard to know what to say some kids are tolerating very high amounts and others only very little.

I do wonder though if such a small amount is actually going to achieve anything, jury out here.

No help whatsoever lol.

Vicky

[Guest guest]

Hi Di,

There is a group for NCD users.

We have just started, third day on one drop. Sorry I can't give you any advice - no problems so far though.

Jane

NCD

Hihave been reading up abit more on NCD, would be very interested to hear anyones experiences, good or bad and is there a NCD group or am I dreaming?!thanks, Di x

[Guest guest]

Toms been taking it for about six months now and we're on 10 drops 3

times a day. NO idea whehter it works, absolutely none. But it does

coincide with a real " up " in his learning so we've continued. When we

ran out and stopped for a week we saw no back sliding. We have three

more bottles - when we finish those we'll reassess teh situation. NO

side affects that we've seen.

steph

>

> Hi

> have been reading up abit more on NCD, would be very interested to

> hear anyones experiences, good or bad and is there a NCD group

> or am I dreaming?!

> thanks, Di x

>

[Guest guest]

>Hi Jane

can you tell me what the group is called please, I typed in NCD

autism and a few variations but nothing!

Fingers crossed that does well!

Di x

> Hi Di,

>

> There is a group for NCD users.

>

> We have just started, third day on one drop. Sorry I can't give

you any advice - no problems so far though.

>

> Jane

> NCD

>

>

> Hi

> have been reading up abit more on NCD, would be very interested

to

> hear anyones experiences, good or bad and is there a NCD

group

> or am I dreaming?!

> thanks, Di x

>

[Guest guest]

Di,

We have Jack on 3 drops 3x per day, found more than that led to major

stims. Can't note any definitive cognitive improvements however recent

urint toxic metals shows excretion of mercury , lead and very high

arsenic. Also after applying topically to enormous verruca daily for 5-6

months it has completely gone!! - so must be doing something

stephaniesirr wrote:

> Toms been taking it for about six months now and we're on 10 drops 3

> times a day. NO idea whehter it works, absolutely none. But it does

> coincide with a real " up " in his learning so we've continued. When we

> ran out and stopped for a week we saw no back sliding. We have three

> more bottles - when we finish those we'll reassess teh situation. NO

> side affects that we've seen.

>

> steph

>

>

> >

> > Hi

> > have been reading up abit more on NCD, would be very interested to

> > hear anyones experiences, good or bad and is there a NCD group

> > or am I dreaming?!

> > thanks, Di x

> >

>

>