Re: Baby has pneumonia-please help!

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All four of mine have had it. The youngest age was about two.

Definitely do not give fever reducers. Good for you to stay strong on that. I

would treat her as you would with a cold, keeping the air moist, sit in the bath

with the shower running, vaporizer, keep her drinking (no dairy) even at night,

and have her sleep with you if you don't already so you can monitor her and get

rest yourself. Keep her upright, but not to the point of not being able to

sleep.

You want to get the congestion out of her chest so clap on her back, going from

the bottom to top. I would also give a homeopathic cough syrup that is a good

expectorant, while soothing the cough so they can rest. It doesn't suppress it

but makes it more effective. Here's a link to it:

http://www.vitacost.com/Boericke-Tafel-Childrens-Cough-Bronchial-Syrup

And don't forget she'll need probiotics to counter the antibiotics killing off

the good bacteria. Just don't give it at the same time as the antibiotics.

As for your doctor, I would read her the riot act. She FORGOT your child wasn't

vaxed?? Well, it's a good thing she's not, since apparently vaxed kids don't get

checked out as thoroughly!

It's very scary when little ones are sick, but it sounds as if you are on top of

it and I think she will be just fine.

Winnie

Baby has pneumonia-please help!

Vaccinations

> Just as so many of you here, I have steadfastly refused to

> vaccinate

> my soon to be one year old daughter. And like so many of you

> here, I

> had to stand up to my husband, relatives, friends, colleagues,

> pediatrician.... Shelby was born last january 2nd, and never had

> a

> cold until she entered daycars this past September (no

> surprise)..I

> gave her watered down Emergen-C for a while and she was

> fine...And

> yes, everyone always comments on how healthy and happy and

> intelligent she is... Flash forward to last week...I pick her up

> at

> daycare and there are red circles under her eyes....then again

> the

> next day..I found out after 3 days of red circles that the

> daycare

> provider has decided to paint her basement playroom! Sand and

> paint!

> In the middle of a NY winter!!!! She was keeping the kids (my

> baby

> and her 5 and 2 year old) upstairs. Fumes rise. (Also the 5

> year

> old had his flushot the week before..and had stayed home the

> next

> day...) Shelby develops a dry cough...I suspect the paint and

> am

> glad the holidays are coming so I can keep her home....By this

> past

> Satm, her nose was running...ALOT...then by Sunday, she had 103

> fever!!! This is her first fever....I read all that Dr

> mendelson and

> others had said about fever....I had a house full of people

> badgering

> me to get her tylenol/motrin SOMETHINg to bring the fever

> down...I

> caved..she was sooooo hot.....She stayed sick Monday...by

> Tuesday I

> brought her to doc..doc said it was a cold..a bad cold...what a

> relief!!! Baby played and ate and seemed better...started

> coughing

> again in the night...HERE " s THE PART FOR THIS GROUP- Doc calls

> me

> this morning and says that when she sent us home- SHE FORGOT THE

> BABT

> WAS NON-VAXED= SO I NEED TO BRING HER BACK FOR MORE TESTS!!!!!

> WHAT????? Sure enough...a blood count...(14,0000) and a chest x-

> ray

> show she has pneumonia.....Yes, I put her on amoxicillin.....and

> am

> avoiding the fever reducer...but basically, please, please, I'm

> so

> very scared. She's not even a year old, please, if anyone's

> been

> thru pneumonia I would appreciate any advice or comfort you

> could

> give on these special days. And no, I'm not swayed and will

> still

> refuse vaccines. (if anything I regret caving in to pressure

> and

> giving her the Motrin, had I not done so, maybe her body

> would've

> fought off the intial virus...oh-PS_ the babysitters kids are

> all

> SICk with respiratory issues!!!! THANKS AGAIN FOR ANY HELP.

> Peace.

> yvette

>

>

[Guest guest]

had pneumonia when he was 6 months. We stayed home, I put smelly stuff

on his chest, TTO in the vaporizer, and nurses him

We also stayed home. Things went fine and he recovered just fine. no meds,

no docs

If you have a recliner, get comfy! I would have them sleep in my arms or

propped up on my chest, while I was upright to semi-reclining.

She's probably got the flu too. flu shots are virus shedding, as I recall.

Or it was the flu and changed pneumonia.

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7, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 3 and Isaac, 2/3/08

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Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long enough

to make them all yourself.

[Guest guest]

Our 3-month-old had a Pertussis-like cough, complete with Cyanosis (when

they get blue when they cough from lack of air) and had a touch of

Pneumonia. I did Antibiotics, he did get some palllitive care in the

hospital because he had stopped eating and was dehydrated----and he is a

healthy little guy today.

Fluids, fluids, fluids. Even unto fruit juice bars, anything to get it in

there consistently. The vax are irrelevant now and I would imagine the

paint aggravated her lungs and helped precipitate this. Fevers kill germs,

scary as they are: coolish baths can help with the discomfort. Keep her a

bit elevated in bed for drainage, fluids and meds and she should come

through with no more difficulty.

Maeghan

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Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:23 PM

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Subject: Baby has pneumonia-please help!

Just as so many of you here, I have steadfastly refused to vaccinate

my soon to be one year old daughter. And like so many of you here, I

had to stand up to my husband, relatives, friends, colleagues,

pediatrician.... Shelby was born last january 2nd, and never had a

cold until she entered daycars this past September (no surprise)..I

gave her watered down Emergen-C for a while and she was fine...And

yes, everyone always comments on how healthy and happy and

intelligent she is... Flash forward to last week...I pick her up at

daycare and there are red circles under her eyes....then again the

next day..I found out after 3 days of red circles that the daycare

provider has decided to paint her basement playroom! Sand and paint!

In the middle of a NY winter!!!! She was keeping the kids (my baby

and her 5 and 2 year old) upstairs. Fumes rise. (Also the 5 year

old had his flushot the week before..and had stayed home the next

day...) Shelby develops a dry cough...I suspect the paint and am

glad the holidays are coming so I can keep her home....By this past

Satm, her nose was running...ALOT...then by Sunday, she had 103

fever!!! This is her first fever....I read all that Dr mendelson and

others had said about fever....I had a house full of people badgering

me to get her tylenol/motrin SOMETHINg to bring the fever down...I

caved..she was sooooo hot.....She stayed sick Monday...by Tuesday I

brought her to doc..doc said it was a cold..a bad cold...what a

relief!!! Baby played and ate and seemed better...started coughing

again in the night...HERE " s THE PART FOR THIS GROUP- Doc calls me

this morning and says that when she sent us home- SHE FORGOT THE BABT

WAS NON-VAXED= SO I NEED TO BRING HER BACK FOR MORE TESTS!!!!!

WHAT????? Sure enough...a blood count...(14,0000) and a chest x-ray

show she has pneumonia.....Yes, I put her on amoxicillin.....and am

avoiding the fever reducer...but basically, please, please, I'm so

very scared. She's not even a year old, please, if anyone's been

thru pneumonia I would appreciate any advice or comfort you could

give on these special days. And no, I'm not swayed and will still

refuse vaccines. (if anything I regret caving in to pressure and

giving her the Motrin, had I not done so, maybe her body would've

fought off the intial virus...oh-PS_ the babysitters kids are all

SICk with respiratory issues!!!! THANKS AGAIN FOR ANY HELP. Peace.

yvette

[Guest guest]

SHE FORGOT THE BABT

> WAS NON-VAXED= SO I NEED TO BRING HER BACK FOR MORE TESTS!!!!!

> WHAT????? Sure enough...a blood count...(14,0000) and a chest x-

ray

> show she has pneumonia.....Yes, I put her on amoxicillin.....and am

> avoiding the fever reducer...but basically, please, please, I'm so

> very scared.

Uhh, a tough one. So your daughter is completely unvaccinated? Did

doctor tell you if pnemonia was bacterial or viral? I guess it was

confirmed to be caused by a bacteria because antibiotics were

prescribed? Sometimes doctors prescribe antibiotics just in case or

just to see if they will work. Viral pnemonia doesn't require any

treatments just time to heal. Bacterial is the dangerous one and from

my knowledge needs antibiotics.

When my son had a bad cold(i was convinced that he had pnemonia)I

rubbed my son's chest before bed with a drop of eycoluptus(spelling?)

essential oil. It's very good for bronchial congestion/asthma. Also,

suctioning nose frequently should lessen nasal obstruction and

coughs. Is she breastfeeding? Can you squeez some fresh fruit juice

for her? I have a juicer and when someone in my family is sick, i

squeez some carrot, apple, pear, parsley juice and drink immediately.

It will give a burst of vitamins to help fight infections. I wish you

all the best, stay strong!

Katarina

[Guest guest]

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR REPLIES AND SUPPORT!!!! I knew I could count

on the wise women (and men) in this group for guidance. I'm following

everyone's advice... I did NOT do the fever reducer last night (she was so

hot!)

and she seems to have turned a corner... a wet cough and lots of mucous,

but can sit up, clap her hands and smiled...a little...as for whether it's

viral or bacterial, doc doesn't know...prescribed the abx anyway...I know when

Shelby's all better I'll have to hear a whole lecture on Prevnar....More to

come, baby is crying....THANKS AGAIN SO VERY MUCH. Hope everyone is having a

wonderful holiday. peace, yvette

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The prevanar vax only covers certain strains, does this mean that the doctor

tests all suspected cases incase they are not covered by the strain in the

vaccine.  I think that if she had 'not forgetten' that you are a non-vaxer then

your child would have been sent home and recoverd well without all the

interference.

 

I totally understand the panic though, with my first son I was rushed to

hospital in a amublance for an 'ear infection' (oh the shame),  We just want our

children to be well and we all panic.

 

I think of the sheer amount of colds that my son has had, and the temps and

wonder how many times he has has pneumonia and recovered fine.  Infact in my

baby book it says most babys recover within a week without complication.

 

I hope your baby gets better soon.

[Guest guest]

That's great news. Smiling and clapping, even a little, is a good sign.

And if you do get that lecture, point out that not only is your unvaxed child

fine, but without knowing if it was bacterial, the lecture is unwarranted.

Anyway, you have a great holiday, too!

Winnie

Re: Baby has pneumonia-please help!

Vaccinations

> THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR REPLIES AND SUPPORT!!!! I knew I

> could count

> on the wise women (and men) in this group for guidance. I'm

> following

> everyone's advice... I did NOT do the fever reducer last

> night (she was so hot!)

> and she seems to have turned a corner... a wet cough and lots

> of mucous,

> but can sit up, clap her hands and smiled...a little...as for

> whether it's

> viral or bacterial, doc doesn't know...prescribed the abx

> anyway...I know when

> Shelby's all better I'll have to hear a whole lecture on

> Prevnar....More to

> come, baby is crying....THANKS AGAIN SO VERY MUCH. Hope

> everyone is having a

> wonderful holiday. peace, yvette

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> AOL Mail,

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Hyland's makes a Vitamin C dissolvable tabs in 25 mg. I would use

those, a humidifier with Eucalyptus, Vick's baby rub for chest(it had

lavender and other good oils in it),plenty of fluids, nurse if

possible, warm baths, something called NoseFrieda for nose mucus is

supposed to be good- don't have it yet. Also there is a digital

forehead temperature scan that will help you take frequent readings

in lieu of rectal and rectal when you can.

I know...any sickness or fever freaks me out. I've done tylenol,

motrin because I've been scared too. As I grow in my personal trust

on what I can do for my daughter I will do less of that stuff,

however the most important thing to me is not vax. Think of how many

parents, vax completely AND give tylenol all of the time. I think

we're doing good.

Hang in there...

>

> Just as so many of you here, I have steadfastly refused to

vaccinate

> my soon to be one year old daughter. And like so many of you here,

I

> had to stand up to my husband, relatives, friends, colleagues,

> pediatrician.... Shelby was born last january 2nd, and never had a

> cold until she entered daycars this past September (no surprise)..I

> gave her watered down Emergen-C for a while and she was fine...And

> yes, everyone always comments on how healthy and happy and

> intelligent she is... Flash forward to last week...I pick her up at

> daycare and there are red circles under her eyes....then again the

> next day..I found out after 3 days of red circles that the daycare

> provider has decided to paint her basement playroom! Sand and

paint!

> In the middle of a NY winter!!!! She was keeping the kids (my baby

> and her 5 and 2 year old) upstairs. Fumes rise. (Also the 5 year

> old had his flushot the week before..and had stayed home the next

> day...) Shelby develops a dry cough...I suspect the paint and am

> glad the holidays are coming so I can keep her home....By this past

> Satm, her nose was running...ALOT...then by Sunday, she had 103

> fever!!! This is her first fever....I read all that Dr mendelson

and

> others had said about fever....I had a house full of people

badgering

> me to get her tylenol/motrin SOMETHINg to bring the fever down...I

> caved..she was sooooo hot.....She stayed sick Monday...by Tuesday I

> brought her to doc..doc said it was a cold..a bad cold...what a

> relief!!! Baby played and ate and seemed better...started coughing

> again in the night...HERE " s THE PART FOR THIS GROUP- Doc calls me

> this morning and says that when she sent us home- SHE FORGOT THE

BABT

> WAS NON-VAXED= SO I NEED TO BRING HER BACK FOR MORE TESTS!!!!!

> WHAT????? Sure enough...a blood count...(14,0000) and a chest x-

ray

> show she has pneumonia.....Yes, I put her on amoxicillin.....and am

> avoiding the fever reducer...but basically, please, please, I'm so

> very scared. She's not even a year old, please, if anyone's been

> thru pneumonia I would appreciate any advice or comfort you could

> give on these special days. And no, I'm not swayed and will still

> refuse vaccines. (if anything I regret caving in to pressure and

> giving her the Motrin, had I not done so, maybe her body would've

> fought off the intial virus...oh-PS_ the babysitters kids are all

> SICk with respiratory issues!!!! THANKS AGAIN FOR ANY HELP.

Peace.

> yvette

>