Guest guest Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 --- In , Jane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@y...> wrote: > Insurance does not cover explant for cosmetic reasons--ever. No, but many insurance companies will cover explant for medical reasons like CC or rupture or pain. Jade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Jade, CC and pain is not a cosmetic reason. Cosmetic reason is simply wanting them out because you don't like them, or they're too big, small-- what have you. As far as insurance covering the costs of RUPTURE(replace implant or remove) IN AND OF ITSELF and not health issue, pain,CC to accompany, I've not seem this. If you know something that I don't it, please tell us what SPECIFIC insurance company covers this--I'd really like to know.That would be good news for many women looking for another angle with the insurance company. I do recall my former PS had a "warrenty" for rupture--he would replace with no surgeon's fee but OR cost and cost of implant itself is a different story. I called my friend who's an exec at Fortis, and no replacing/explanting a rupture implant unless health is involved--illness. Thank you. LM jadebreaks <jadebreaks@...> wrote: > Insurance does not cover explant for cosmetic reasons--ever. No, but many insurance companies will cover explant for medical reasons like CC or rupture or pain.Jade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Hi Lynda! The key word is *cosmetic*.If one has a medical concern along with the cosmetic concern, then depending on the insurance company, you may be in business, but strictly cosmetic reasons(and the doc establishes no medical grounds for surgery) then it's, no dice. When I had rhinoplasty, I had that *medical* reason for surgery--my breathing was *somewhat* impaired,however, MY real goal was that of a cosmetic one and I'm certain my ENT knew just how to get my insurance company to see things his way--a medical necessity way that is....you get my drift? While it was true that I had a little trouble getting air in through my right nostril, it was hardly a big deal and voila, after my surgery I did breathe better and more importantly to me, I LOOKED better. So, Lynda, you do have a point if you go to a PS for help (cosmetic) with implants like my ENT helped my nose, you've got a chance, you're right, never say never--it's all in the context. Lynda <coss@...> wrote: Be careful with always and ever and never. It does cover sometimes, when a medical necessity is there.LyndaAt 05:33 PM 5/29/2004, you wrote:>Insurance does not cover explant for cosmetic reasons--ever.>>jadebreaks wrote:>--- In , "naturalbeauty38">wrote:> > Unfortunately if you had the implants put in for cosmetic>purproses> > most PS's including Dr Feng, Dr Huang and Dr Kolb will want cash.>>Dr. Melmed is waiting for my insurance to pay. I prepaid for the>lift.>>Jade>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 I can see that nothing I say or know makes a difference, so lets just drop it. Lynda At 02:31 PM 5/30/2004, you wrote: >Hi Lynda! >The key word is *cosmetic*. >If one has a medical concern along with the cosmetic concern, then >depending on the insurance company, you may be in business, but strictly >cosmetic reasons(and the doc establishes no medical grounds for surgery) >then it's, no dice. >When I had rhinoplasty, I had that *medical* reason for surgery--my >breathing was *somewhat* impaired,however, MY real goal was that of a >cosmetic one and I'm certain my ENT knew just how to get my insurance >company to see things his way--a medical necessity way that is....you get >my drift? >While it was true that I had a little trouble getting air in through my >right nostril, it was hardly a big deal and voila, after my surgery I did >breathe better and more importantly to me, I LOOKED better. >So, Lynda, you do have a point if you go to a PS for help (cosmetic) with >implants like my ENT helped my nose, you've got a chance, you're right, >never say never--it's all in the context. > >Lynda <coss@...> wrote: >Be careful with always and ever and never. It does cover sometimes, when a >medical necessity is there. > >Lynda > > >At 05:33 PM 5/29/2004, you wrote: > >Insurance does not cover explant for cosmetic reasons--ever. > > > >jadebreaks wrote: > >--- In , " naturalbeauty38 " > >wrote: > > > Unfortunately if you had the implants put in for cosmetic > >purproses > > > most PS's including Dr Feng, Dr Huang and Dr Kolb will want cash. > > > >Dr. Melmed is waiting for my insurance to pay. I prepaid for the > >lift. > > > >Jade > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 --- In , Jane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@y...> wrote: > Jade, > CC and pain is not a cosmetic reason. Cosmetic reason is simply wanting them out because you don't like them, or they're too big, small-- what have you. Jane, I know that. I'm not arguing with you just trying to be clear that there are some reasons, besides cosmetic, when insurance will pay and you don't have to pay upfront. Many doctors are very good at getting insurance to cover. Jade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Hi Lynda: Did you read my post in it's entirety? If so, you would see that I agreed with your statement about never say never, providing a PS is willing to do what my ENT did(putting emphasis on breathing to my insurance company). I still stand behind my statement that I have never heard of insurance company paying for cosmetic surgery unless something *medical* is going on too. You need that medical "excuse" to get the green light from insurance company, because a purely cosmetic premise for surgery(no trauma, injury,sickness, deformity) is not going to fly.I've never heard of ity in the US, but if you have, I'm open to learning. I'm not trying to make you upset. I'm not at all offended that you have your opinion, please don't be offended by mine. Debate is a learning experience. Just because we don't always agree does not make us any less of group.And you're wrong, what you say DOES matter to me, I never stated otherwise. Take care. LMLynda <coss@...> wrote: I can see that nothing I say or know makes a difference, so lets just drop it.LyndaAt 02:31 PM 5/30/2004, you wrote:>Hi Lynda!>The key word is *cosmetic*.>If one has a medical concern along with the cosmetic concern, then >depending on the insurance company, you may be in business, but strictly >cosmetic reasons(and the doc establishes no medical grounds for surgery) >then it's, no dice.>When I had rhinoplasty, I had that *medical* reason for surgery--my >breathing was *somewhat* impaired,however, MY real goal was that of a >cosmetic one and I'm certain my ENT knew just how to get my insurance >company to see things his way--a medical necessity way that is....you get >my drift?>While it was true that I had a little trouble getting air in through my >right nostril, it was hardly a big deal and voila, after my surgery I did >breathe better and more importantly to me, I LOOKED better.>So, Lynda, you do have a point if you go to a PS for help (cosmetic) with >implants like my ENT helped my nose, you've got a chance, you're right, >never say never--it's all in the context.>>Lynda wrote:>Be careful with always and ever and never. It does cover sometimes, when a>medical necessity is there.>>Lynda>>>At 05:33 PM 5/29/2004, you wrote:> >Insurance does not cover explant for cosmetic reasons--ever.> >> >jadebreaks wrote:> >--- In , "naturalbeauty38"> >wrote:> > > Unfortunately if you had the implants put in for cosmetic> >purproses> > > most PS's including Dr Feng, Dr Huang and Dr Kolb will want cash.> >> >Dr. Melmed is waiting for my insurance to pay. I prepaid for the> >lift.> >> >Jade> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 --- In , Jane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@y...> wrote: > Make sure you try to sleep on your back and don't raise your arms above your head Those are not my Doctor's instructions. But thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 No one had to tell me...that was the only way I could sleep. I still can't put my hands above my head and I'm almost 6 months post-op. I used to sleep sort of on my side with my opposite arm up over my head. It took some getting used to. I think the reason why I still can't do it is that the doctor had to take a good amount of my muscle in order to get the scar tissue all out. It was all stuck to my pectoralis (sp?) muscle. Pam > > Make sure you try to sleep on your back and don't raise your arms > above your head > > Those are not my Doctor's instructions. > > But thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 > No one had to tell me...that was the only way I could sleep. I still > can't put my hands above my head and I'm almost 6 months post-op. I > used to sleep sort of on my side with my opposite arm up over my > head. It took some getting used to. I think the reason why I still > can't do it is that the doctor had to take a good amount of my muscle > in order to get the scar tissue all out. It was all stuck to my > pectoralis (sp?) muscle. > > Pam Oh how awful! Most of the time I sleep on my back with my arms over my head. It's been almost 3 weeks since explant and I can do that again now but, at first, my chest felt tight. I don't know about you but I hate the way I let getting implants effect my life! Jade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 I didnt have to put down 1500 to reserve surgery as a desposit with Dr Kolb. I dont think all do this, >From: Jane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: Feng Patient >Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 16:31:32 -0700 (PDT) > >I agree. Feng's a good surgeon, but she should not do this, it's beneath her. Her skill will attract people so I don't see the use high pressure here.What if you change your mind a week or few days before for personal or health reasons? > > I think this is bad business and her patients who are her friends should let her know this so she can correct this. They probably do this (I'm guessing) so peeps won't flake out at the last moment but it's not good business and furthermore, plastic surgery--elective surgery should NEVER be about pressure, one should be able to change their mind. Just my two cents. No offense to Dr. Feng personally. >LM > >jadebreaks <jadebreaks@...> wrote: >--- In , Vickie >wrote: > > other doctors also charge $1500.00 non refundable deposit as >well!!!! That to me was wrong. Dr. Fengs office wanted me to pay >that before I even came in for the consult and if i didnt want her >to do the surgery, i didnt get it back!!!! > >I know a lot of people won't like this but: In my opinion that is >completely unreasonable and unjustifiable! Well, and just plain >wrong! > >Dr. Melmed refused to charge me for the initial consult. > >Jade > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Dr Kolb, helped me to get insurance approval, and then when I was approved, I didnt need any money up front for surgery. I know she has a payment plan too if ins declines. ASk Her. lb >From: jeanine buchanan <neenie502002@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: Feng Patient >Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 11:28:05 -0700 (PDT) > >Hi, > >Someone on this site said that Dr. Kolb would except ins. and did not want money up front. I can't remember who said this. Can anyone tell me or does anyone remember? > > >Thanks, >Neenie > >jadebreaks <jadebreaks@...> wrote: > > > Unfortunately if you had the implants put in for cosmetic >purproses > > most PS's including Dr Feng, Dr Huang and Dr Kolb will want cash. > >Dr. Melmed is waiting for my insurance to pay. I prepaid for the >lift. > >Jade > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Lynda, I do think what you say makes a difference . You know alot and are far ahead most of us in this whole implant experience. I love your short and to the point posts! Very good, and very Helpful. Dont short yourself! Love, >From: Lynda <coss@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: Feng Patient >Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 14:54:36 -0600 > >I can see that nothing I say or know makes a difference, so lets just drop it. > >Lynda > > >At 02:31 PM 5/30/2004, you wrote: > >Hi Lynda! > >The key word is *cosmetic*. > >If one has a medical concern along with the cosmetic concern, then > >depending on the insurance company, you may be in business, but strictly > >cosmetic reasons(and the doc establishes no medical grounds for surgery) > >then it's, no dice. > >When I had rhinoplasty, I had that *medical* reason for surgery--my > >breathing was *somewhat* impaired,however, MY real goal was that of a > >cosmetic one and I'm certain my ENT knew just how to get my insurance > >company to see things his way--a medical necessity way that is....you get > >my drift? > >While it was true that I had a little trouble getting air in through my > >right nostril, it was hardly a big deal and voila, after my surgery I did > >breathe better and more importantly to me, I LOOKED better. > >So, Lynda, you do have a point if you go to a PS for help (cosmetic) with > >implants like my ENT helped my nose, you've got a chance, you're right, > >never say never--it's all in the context. > > > >Lynda <coss@...> wrote: > >Be careful with always and ever and never. It does cover sometimes, when a > >medical necessity is there. > > > >Lynda > > > > > >At 05:33 PM 5/29/2004, you wrote: > > >Insurance does not cover explant for cosmetic reasons--ever. > > > > > >jadebreaks wrote: > > >--- In , "naturalbeauty38" > > >wrote: > > > > Unfortunately if you had the implants put in for cosmetic > > >purproses > > > > most PS's including Dr Feng, Dr Huang and Dr Kolb will want cash. > > > > > >Dr. Melmed is waiting for my insurance to pay. I prepaid for the > > >lift. > > > > > >Jade > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Thanks, just wanted to take myself out of this debate, as there can be no winners in it. And it seems everybody HAD to be right. So I opted out. Lynda At 10:53 AM 6/2/2004, you wrote: >Lynda, I do think what you say makes a difference . You know alot and are >far ahead most of us in this whole implant experience. I love your short >and to the point posts! Very good, and very Helpful. Dont short yourself! >Love, > > > > > > >From: Lynda <coss@...> >Reply-To: > >To: > >Subject: Re: Re: Feng > Patient >Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 14:54:36 -0600 > >I can see that nothing > I say or know makes a difference, so lets just drop it. > >Lynda > > >At > 02:31 PM 5/30/2004, you wrote: > >Hi Lynda! > >The key word is > *cosmetic*. > >If one has a medical concern along with the cosmetic > concern, then > >depending on the insurance company, you may be in > business, but strictly > >cosmetic reasons(and the doc establishes no > medical grounds for surgery) > >then it's, no dice. > >When I had > rhinoplasty, I had that *medical* reason for surgery--my > >breathing was > *somewhat* impaired,however, MY real goal was that of a > >cosmetic one > and I'm certain my ENT knew just how to get my insurance > >company to > see things his way--a medical necessity way that is....you get > >my > drift? > >While it was true that I had a little trouble getting air in > through my > >right nostril, it was hardly a big deal and voila, after my > surgery I did > >breathe better and more importantly to me, I LOOKED > better. > >So, Lynda, you do have a point if you go to a PS for help > (cosmetic) with > >implants like my ENT helped my nose, you've got a > chance, you're right, > >never say never--it's all in the > context. > > > >Lynda <coss@...> wrote: > >Be careful with > always and ever and never. It does cover sometimes, when a > >medical > necessity is there. > > > >Lynda > > > > > >At 05:33 PM 5/29/2004, you > wrote: > > >Insurance does not cover explant for cosmetic > reasons--ever. > > > > > >jadebreaks wrote: > > >--- In > , " naturalbeauty38 " > > >wrote: > > > > > Unfortunately if you had the implants put in for > cosmetic > > >purproses > > > > most PS's including Dr Feng, Dr Huang and > Dr Kolb will want cash. > > > > > >Dr. Melmed is waiting for my insurance > to pay. I prepaid for > the > > >lift. > > > > > >Jade > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >For Healing > Therapies and Detox info, and to view Testimonies of Victims, > > >and > Studies of harm by implants, go > to: > > > /files/ > > > > > >To > view links to related websites on breast implants, go > to: > > > /links > > > > > >To > search past messages in the Archives, go > to > > > /messages > & g >t; > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 I agree. Nobody should short themselves here. 's right. LMJOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@...> wrote: Lynda, I do think what you say makes a difference . You know alot and are far ahead most of us in this whole implant experience. I love your short and to the point posts! Very good, and very Helpful. Dont short yourself! Love, >From: Lynda <coss@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: Feng Patient >Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 14:54:36 -0600 > >I can see that nothing I say or know makes a difference, so lets just drop it. > >Lynda > > >At 02:31 PM 5/30/2004, you wrote: > >Hi Lynda! > >The key word is *cosmetic*. > >If one has a medical concern along with the cosmetic concern, then > >depending on the insurance company, you may be in business, but strictly > >cosmetic reasons(and the doc establishes no medical grounds for surgery) > >then it's, no dice. > >When I had rhinoplasty, I had that *medical* reason for surgery--my > >breathing was *somewhat* impaired,however, MY real goal was that of a > >cosmetic one and I'm certain my ENT knew just how to get my insurance > >company to see things his way--a medical necessity way that is....you get > >my drift? > >While it was true that I had a little trouble getting air in through my > >right nostril, it was hardly a big deal and voila, after my surgery I did > >breathe better and more importantly to me, I LOOKED better. > >So, Lynda, you do have a point if you go to a PS for help (cosmetic) with > >implants like my ENT helped my nose, you've got a chance, you're right, > >never say never--it's all in the context. > > > >Lynda <coss@...> wrote: > >Be careful with always and ever and never. It does cover sometimes, when a > >medical necessity is there. > > > >Lynda > > > > > >At 05:33 PM 5/29/2004, you wrote: > > >Insurance does not cover explant for cosmetic reasons--ever. > > > > > >jadebreaks wrote: > > >--- In , "naturalbeauty38" > > >wrote: > > > > Unfortunately if you had the implants put in for cosmetic > > >purproses > > > > most PS's including Dr Feng, Dr Huang and Dr Kolb will want cash. > > > > > >Dr. Melmed is waiting for my insurance to pay. I prepaid for the > > >lift. > > > > > >Jade > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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