Re: To: Patty Faussett...lymph node swelling

[Guest guest]

Shortly after getting implants I had lymph nodes in my groin swell

and become painful. I had surgery for endometriosis 8 months before

getting the implants, so when the doctor examined me and found the

enlarged lymph nodes he was concerned. The pain got worse and worse

and about 3 months later I begged him for a full hysterectomy. I was

only 34 and he didn't want to do it.

First we tried depo provera, depo lupron and I don't remember what

else, to try to get the endometriosis to die. Nothing helped. It

kept getting worse. So, he finally agreed to the surgery in December

of 99 which was only 4 months after getting implants. He couldn't

find any real reason for the lymph nodes to be so big and so painful

though. But he did find tons of adhesions that had formed after the

last surgery. My bowels were bound up and everything was stuck

together in there. Once he freed everything up, I felt great...for a

little while.

Then again within a short period the same thing happened. My gyn now

feels that it was all a reaction to the implants. He said that since

my immune system was fighting the foreign body which it couldn't get

rid of, the lymph nodes were doing what they were supposed to which

is fight stuff. Sorry for being so non-technical! I don't know what

you call it. Anyway, because of all that " fighting " going on, the

adhesions went out of control as well. I ended up having to have two

more surgeries for adhesions. 1 7 months after the hysterectomy and

another one 5 months after that one. I can still feel the enlarged

lymph nodes and I still have pain, but not enough to do anything

about though! I'm not getting cut on again for a long long time!

Pam

> > > Patti, I am so sorry to bother you, but I am still learning

how

> to

> > > use the Group site. I am asking for your help in the

> > > instructions of the liver flush and where can I purchase the

> Silca

> > > powder for the hair???

> > >

> > > Patti, I am suppose to have explantation the end of May by

>

> > > Kolb who is 5,100 with the lift, Dr. Feng was 6,500 before a

> > lift.

> > > My little one has to go with her dad July 1-11th for his 2 week

> > > summer vacation and I feel I should reschedule for that time.

I

> > was

> > > told I won't be able to lift her for 3 weeks so changing the

> appt

> > > would make since.

> > >

> > > Patti, Have you heard of women having swelling at back area of

> the

> > > knee where it bends, feet and lower legs feeling tight? Also

> have

> > > you heard of women having swelling of the lymph node area and

> groin

> > > with Saline Implants.

> > >

> > > Patti, you along with so many seem so educated in this matter

> and

> > > have helped so many, which makes you all true blessings. Can

> you

> > > help me with this?

> > >

> > > I recently went to see the PS that put my implants in and he

> said

> > the

> > > saline could not hurt my body. I asked him about the silicone

> sak

> > > that the saline is put in, he said that there is no way the

body

> > > could absorb it. He said he had never heard of anyone having

> > > problems with their Saline implants. I feel that it is my

> implants

> > > and have to take a chance to feel better.

> > >

> > > I am sure you have experienced this. Everyone is trying to

> steer

> > me

> > > away from implants being the problem. Please email me back.

> > Thanks

> > > so much.... JoAnn

> > > (Kentucky)

[Guest guest]

Pam:

I am so sorry you had to endure the hysterectomy at such a young age.

Even if you were not planning more kids, i mean we all want to keep

our parts right? I know I feel very strongly about keeping as many of

my insides as I can, gall bladder,uterus, etc, ya know, all the

things the Dr's claim we don't need. I wish I could get back my

tonsils too hee hee. Oh well. I am curious as to what your taking, as

far as hormone replacement, if you don't mind my asking and how that

whole issue is going for you.

I have to say I am pretty positive that when lymph nodes swell up

they often times do not ever go back completely. I had one swell up

in my neck in my teens and it is still there, very small and non

tender. My Dr back then said they usually after a bad infection stay

a bit enlarged and that unless they are painful they are not a big

deal. The ones I have in my groin seem to be there to stay at this

point, but they do not hurt at all, just feel a tiny bit strange ya

know.

Anyhow everyone is different so I assume some could go back to

normal, mine just never did.

hugs girlie

-

In , " Pam " <nannapam3103@y...> wrote:

> Shortly after getting implants I had lymph nodes in my groin swell

> and become painful. I had surgery for endometriosis 8 months

before

> getting the implants, so when the doctor examined me and found the

> enlarged lymph nodes he was concerned. The pain got worse and

worse

> and about 3 months later I begged him for a full hysterectomy. I

was

> only 34 and he didn't want to do it.

>

> First we tried depo provera, depo lupron and I don't remember what

> else, to try to get the endometriosis to die. Nothing helped. It

> kept getting worse. So, he finally agreed to the surgery in

December

> of 99 which was only 4 months after getting implants. He couldn't

> find any real reason for the lymph nodes to be so big and so

painful

> though. But he did find tons of adhesions that had formed after

the

> last surgery. My bowels were bound up and everything was stuck

> together in there. Once he freed everything up, I felt great...for

a

> little while.

>

> Then again within a short period the same thing happened. My gyn

now

> feels that it was all a reaction to the implants. He said that

since

> my immune system was fighting the foreign body which it couldn't

get

> rid of, the lymph nodes were doing what they were supposed to which

> is fight stuff. Sorry for being so non-technical! I don't know

what

> you call it. Anyway, because of all that " fighting " going on, the

> adhesions went out of control as well. I ended up having to have

two

> more surgeries for adhesions. 1 7 months after the hysterectomy

and

> another one 5 months after that one. I can still feel the enlarged

> lymph nodes and I still have pain, but not enough to do anything

> about though! I'm not getting cut on again for a long long time!

>

> Pam

>

>

> > > > Patti, I am so sorry to bother you, but I am still learning

> how

> > to

> > > > use the Group site. I am asking for your help in the

> > > > instructions of the liver flush and where can I purchase the

> > Silca

> > > > powder for the hair???

> > > >

> > > > Patti, I am suppose to have explantation the end of May by

> >

> > > > Kolb who is 5,100 with the lift, Dr. Feng was 6,500 before a

> > > lift.

> > > > My little one has to go with her dad July 1-11th for his 2

week

> > > > summer vacation and I feel I should reschedule for that

time.

> I

> > > was

> > > > told I won't be able to lift her for 3 weeks so changing the

> > appt

> > > > would make since.

> > > >

> > > > Patti, Have you heard of women having swelling at back area

of

> > the

> > > > knee where it bends, feet and lower legs feeling tight? Also

> > have

> > > > you heard of women having swelling of the lymph node area and

> > groin

> > > > with Saline Implants.

> > > >

> > > > Patti, you along with so many seem so educated in this matter

> > and

> > > > have helped so many, which makes you all true blessings. Can

> > you

> > > > help me with this?

> > > >

> > > > I recently went to see the PS that put my implants in and he

> > said

> > > the

> > > > saline could not hurt my body. I asked him about the

silicone

> > sak

> > > > that the saline is put in, he said that there is no way the

> body

> > > > could absorb it. He said he had never heard of anyone having

> > > > problems with their Saline implants. I feel that it is my

> > implants

> > > > and have to take a chance to feel better.

> > > >

> > > > I am sure you have experienced this. Everyone is trying to

> > steer

> > > me

> > > > away from implants being the problem. Please email me back.

> > > Thanks

> > > > so much.... JoAnn

> > > > (Kentucky)

[Guest guest]

This is so weird we are talking about lymph nodes. I know viruses can make them swell too. Any type of infection, Personally, because the ones in my groin and neck are currently huge, but only because I caught a common viral infection called fifth's disease (sounds scary but isnt) and it makes you look like you are slapped all over! Your skin gets blotchy, and adults have swelling and joint pain, boy do I ever I cant even wear my rings! And I am so achy. No biggie, but a pain in the a**! Anyway, my lymph nodes are huge, but I am sure will go down after reading up on them. it happens in times of low immunity, like infections, or viruses for example.

Re: Patty Faussett...lymph node swelling

Pam:I am so sorry you had to endure the hysterectomy at such a young age. Even if you were not planning more kids, i mean we all want to keep our parts right? I know I feel very strongly about keeping as many of my insides as I can, gall bladder,uterus, etc, ya know, all the things the Dr's claim we don't need. I wish I could get back my tonsils too hee hee. Oh well. I am curious as to what your taking, as far as hormone replacement, if you don't mind my asking and how that whole issue is going for you.I have to say I am pretty positive that when lymph nodes swell up they often times do not ever go back completely. I had one swell up in my neck in my teens and it is still there, very small and non tender. My Dr back then said they usually after a bad infection stay a bit enlarged and that unless they are painful they are not a big deal. The ones I have in my groin seem to be there to stay at this point, but they do not hurt at all, just feel a tiny bit strange ya know.Anyhow everyone is different so I assume some could go back to normal, mine just never did.hugs girlie-In , "Pam" <nannapam3103@y...> wrote:> Shortly after getting implants I had lymph nodes in my groin swell > and become painful. I had surgery for endometriosis 8 months before > getting the implants, so when the doctor examined me and found the > enlarged lymph nodes he was concerned. The pain got worse and worse > and about 3 months later I begged him for a full hysterectomy. I was > only 34 and he didn't want to do it. > > First we tried depo provera, depo lupron and I don't remember what > else, to try to get the endometriosis to die. Nothing helped. It > kept getting worse. So, he finally agreed to the surgery in December > of 99 which was only 4 months after getting implants. He couldn't > find any real reason for the lymph nodes to be so big and so painful > though. But he did find tons of adhesions that had formed after the > last surgery. My bowels were bound up and everything was stuck > together in there. Once he freed everything up, I felt great...for a > little while. > > Then again within a short period the same thing happened. My gyn now > feels that it was all a reaction to the implants. He said that since > my immune system was fighting the foreign body which it couldn't get > rid of, the lymph nodes were doing what they were supposed to which > is fight stuff. Sorry for being so non-technical! I don't know what > you call it. Anyway, because of all that "fighting" going on, the > adhesions went out of control as well. I ended up having to have two > more surgeries for adhesions. 1 7 months after the hysterectomy and > another one 5 months after that one. I can still feel the enlarged > lymph nodes and I still have pain, but not enough to do anything > about though! I'm not getting cut on again for a long long time!> > Pam> > > > > > Patti, I am so sorry to bother you, but I am still learning > how > > to > > > > use the Group site. I am asking for your help in the > > > > instructions of the liver flush and where can I purchase the > > Silca > > > > powder for the hair???> > > > > > > > Patti, I am suppose to have explantation the end of May by > > > > > > Kolb who is 5,100 with the lift, Dr. Feng was 6,500 before a > > > lift. > > > > My little one has to go with her dad July 1-11th for his 2 week > > > > summer vacation and I feel I should reschedule for that time. > I > > > was > > > > told I won't be able to lift her for 3 weeks so changing the > > appt > > > > would make since.> > > > > > > > Patti, Have you heard of women having swelling at back area of > > the > > > > knee where it bends, feet and lower legs feeling tight? Also > > have > > > > you heard of women having swelling of the lymph node area and > > groin > > > > with Saline Implants. > > > > > > > > Patti, you along with so many seem so educated in this matter > > and > > > > have helped so many, which makes you all true blessings. Can > > you > > > > help me with this?> > > > > > > > I recently went to see the PS that put my implants in and he > > said > > > the > > > > saline could not hurt my body. I asked him about the silicone > > sak > > > > that the saline is put in, he said that there is no way the > body > > > > could absorb it. He said he had never heard of anyone having > > > > problems with their Saline implants. I feel that it is my > > implants > > > > and have to take a chance to feel better.> > > > > > > > I am sure you have experienced this. Everyone is trying to > > steer > > > me > > > > away from implants being the problem. Please email me back. > > > Thanks > > > > so much.... JoAnn > > > > (Kentucky)

[Guest guest]

Actually it is pretty uncommon that they will ever completely go away

once they swell up. They will go down a bit, but I have had one on my

neck since I had strep throat when i was 15 and it is still there.

The ones in my groin too, they don't go away, but they are not really

swollen, they are just little balls, they don't bother me at all.

anyhow when did you catch this illness, is this new?

I hope you feel better soon. I remember someone telling me that I had

that when I was sick from implants, because I did have allot of the

symptoms, but of course it was not that, it was the implants.

hope you feel better soon girl.

hugs

-C

In , " JOSEPH PALANCA " <juliejp61@m...>

wrote:

> This is so weird we are talking about lymph nodes. I know viruses

can make them swell too. Any type of infection, Personally, because

the ones in my groin and neck are currently huge, but only because I

caught a common viral infection called fifth's disease (sounds scary

but isnt) and it makes you look like you are slapped all over! Your

skin gets blotchy, and adults have swelling and joint pain, boy do I

ever I cant even wear my rings! And I am so achy. No biggie, but a

pain in the a**! Anyway, my lymph nodes are huge, but I am sure will

go down after reading up on them. it happens in times of low

immunity, like infections, or viruses for example.

> Re: Patty Faussett...lymph node

swelling

>

>

> Pam:

>

> I am so sorry you had to endure the hysterectomy at such a young

age.

> Even if you were not planning more kids, i mean we all want to

keep

> our parts right? I know I feel very strongly about keeping as

many of

> my insides as I can, gall bladder,uterus, etc, ya know, all the

> things the Dr's claim we don't need. I wish I could get back my

> tonsils too hee hee. Oh well. I am curious as to what your

taking, as

> far as hormone replacement, if you don't mind my asking and how

that

> whole issue is going for you.

> I have to say I am pretty positive that when lymph nodes swell up

> they often times do not ever go back completely. I had one swell

up

> in my neck in my teens and it is still there, very small and non

> tender. My Dr back then said they usually after a bad infection

stay

> a bit enlarged and that unless they are painful they are not a

big

> deal. The ones I have in my groin seem to be there to stay at

this

> point, but they do not hurt at all, just feel a tiny bit strange

ya

> know.

> Anyhow everyone is different so I assume some could go back to

> normal, mine just never did.

> hugs girlie

> -

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> In

<mailto: >, "

Pam " <nannapam3103@y<mailto:nannapam3103@y>...> wrote:

> > Shortly after getting implants I had lymph nodes in my groin

swell

> > and become painful. I had surgery for endometriosis 8 months

> before

> > getting the implants, so when the doctor examined me and found

the

> > enlarged lymph nodes he was concerned. The pain got worse and

> worse

> > and about 3 months later I begged him for a full hysterectomy.

I

> was

> > only 34 and he didn't want to do it.

> >

> > First we tried depo provera, depo lupron and I don't remember

what

> > else, to try to get the endometriosis to die. Nothing helped.

It

> > kept getting worse. So, he finally agreed to the surgery in

> December

> > of 99 which was only 4 months after getting implants. He

couldn't

> > find any real reason for the lymph nodes to be so big and so

> painful

> > though. But he did find tons of adhesions that had formed

after

> the

> > last surgery. My bowels were bound up and everything was stuck

> > together in there. Once he freed everything up, I felt

great...for

> a

> > little while.

> >

> > Then again within a short period the same thing happened. My

gyn

> now

> > feels that it was all a reaction to the implants. He said that

> since

> > my immune system was fighting the foreign body which it

couldn't

> get

> > rid of, the lymph nodes were doing what they were supposed to

which

> > is fight stuff. Sorry for being so non-technical! I don't

know

> what

> > you call it. Anyway, because of all that " fighting " going on,

the

> > adhesions went out of control as well. I ended up having to

have

> two

> > more surgeries for adhesions. 1 7 months after the

hysterectomy

> and

> > another one 5 months after that one. I can still feel the

enlarged

> > lymph nodes and I still have pain, but not enough to do

anything

> > about though! I'm not getting cut on again for a long long

time!

> >

> > Pam

> >

> >

> > > > > Patti, I am so sorry to bother you, but I am still

learning

> > how

> > > to

> > > > > use the Group site. I am asking for your help in

the

> > > > > instructions of the liver flush and where can I purchase

the

> > > Silca

> > > > > powder for the hair???

> > > > >

> > > > > Patti, I am suppose to have explantation the end of May

by

> > >

> > > > > Kolb who is 5,100 with the lift, Dr. Feng was 6,500

before a

> > > > lift.

> > > > > My little one has to go with her dad July 1-11th for his

2

> week

> > > > > summer vacation and I feel I should reschedule for that

> time.

> > I

> > > > was

> > > > > told I won't be able to lift her for 3 weeks so changing

the

> > > appt

> > > > > would make since.

> > > > >

> > > > > Patti, Have you heard of women having swelling at back

area

> of

> > > the

> > > > > knee where it bends, feet and lower legs feeling tight?

Also

> > > have

> > > > > you heard of women having swelling of the lymph node area

and

> > > groin

> > > > > with Saline Implants.

> > > > >

> > > > > Patti, you along with so many seem so educated in this

matter

> > > and

> > > > > have helped so many, which makes you all true blessings.

Can

> > > you

> > > > > help me with this?

> > > > >

> > > > > I recently went to see the PS that put my implants in and

he

> > > said

> > > > the

> > > > > saline could not hurt my body. I asked him about the

> silicone

> > > sak

> > > > > that the saline is put in, he said that there is no way

the

> > body

> > > > > could absorb it. He said he had never heard of anyone

having

> > > > > problems with their Saline implants. I feel that it is

my

> > > implants

> > > > > and have to take a chance to feel better.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am sure you have experienced this. Everyone is trying

to

> > > steer

> > > > me

> > > > > away from implants being the problem. Please email me

back.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > > so much.... JoAnn

> > > > > (Kentucky)

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, Thanks for the info about lymph nodes. Interesting. I know that when Im sick ,they do go down afterwards. As they are sore, and large when I am ill, then go down, and i can barely feel them afterwards.Most Docs feel your lymph nodes to assess how ill you are. Infection or even Cancer will make them larger in size. Its normal after infection is gone, as the lymph nodes drain the infection as your immunity increases. They are almost like little bags to catch infections. But perhaps some never do go down, depending on what caused them to swell. Like yours, and my sis - she still has large ones behind her ears and neck- since she had mono when she 17. Someting. The Body is amazing, isnt it?

5'ths is very common esp amoungst younger ones. Its all over the place in my town -its kinda funny all the kids in Crete look abused! Ha HA

They call it 5th, as there are 5 common childhood viral rashes. Chicken Pox, measles, mumps, rubella, and 5ths. It looks like roseolla , slapped skin. More so in kids, but in adults the viral infection causes more joint pain, and swelling. I feel fine, just swollen girl. I cant wear my rings still. My doc said, you are gonna be swollen like that for about 4 to 6 weeks. Arg! The slapped look has went away though, thank God. I am standing up in a wedding ,in a few weeks. Thanks for asking.

>From: "naturalbeauty38" <naturalbeauty38@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Patty Faussett...lymph node swelling >Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 14:22:36 -0000 > > >Actually it is pretty uncommon that they will ever completely go away >once they swell up. They will go down a bit, but I have had one on my >neck since I had strep throat when i was 15 and it is still there. >The ones in my groin too, they don't go away, but they are not really >swollen, they are just little balls, they don't bother me at all. >anyhow when did you catch this illness, is this new? >I hope you feel better soon. I remember someone telling me that I had >that when I was sick from implants, because I did have allot of the >symptoms, but of course it was not that, it was the implants. >hope you feel better soon girl. >hugs >-C > > > > > > >In , "JOSEPH PALANCA" <juliejp61@m...> >wrote: > > This is so weird we are talking about lymph nodes. I know viruses >can make them swell too. Any type of infection, Personally, because >the ones in my groin and neck are currently huge, but only because I >caught a common viral infection called fifth's disease (sounds scary >but isnt) and it makes you look like you are slapped all over! Your >skin gets blotchy, and adults have swelling and joint pain, boy do I >ever I cant even wear my rings! And I am so achy. No biggie, but a >pain in the a**! Anyway, my lymph nodes are huge, but I am sure will >go down after reading up on them. it happens in times of low >immunity, like infections, or viruses for example. > > Re: Patty Faussett...lymph node >swelling > > > > > > Pam: > > > > I am so sorry you had to endure the hysterectomy at such a young >age. > > Even if you were not planning more kids, i mean we all want to >keep > > our parts right? I know I feel very strongly about keeping as >many of > > my insides as I can, gall bladder,uterus, etc, ya know, all the > > things the Dr's claim we don't need. I wish I could get back my > > tonsils too hee hee. Oh well. I am curious as to what your >taking, as > > far as hormone replacement, if you don't mind my asking and how >that > > whole issue is going for you. > > I have to say I am pretty positive that when lymph nodes swell up > > they often times do not ever go back completely. I had one swell >up > > in my neck in my teens and it is still there, very small and non > > tender. My Dr back then said they usually after a bad infection >stay > > a bit enlarged and that unless they are painful they are not a >big > > deal. The ones I have in my groin seem to be there to stay at >this > > point, but they do not hurt at all, just feel a tiny bit strange >ya > > know. > > Anyhow everyone is different so I assume some could go back to > > normal, mine just never did. > > hugs girlie > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In > <mailto: >, " >Pam" <nannapam3103@y<mailto:nannapam3103@y>...> wrote: > > > Shortly after getting implants I had lymph nodes in my groin >swell > > > and become painful. I had surgery for endometriosis 8 months > > before > > > getting the implants, so when the doctor examined me and found >the > > > enlarged lymph nodes he was concerned. The pain got worse and > > worse > > > and about 3 months later I begged him for a full hysterectomy. >I > > was > > > only 34 and he didn't want to do it. > > > > > > First we tried depo provera, depo lupron and I don't remember >what > > > else, to try to get the endometriosis to die. Nothing helped. >It > > > kept getting worse. So, he finally agreed to the surgery in > > December > > > of 99 which was only 4 months after getting implants. He >couldn't > > > find any real reason for the lymph nodes to be so big and so > > painful > > > though. But he did find tons of adhesions that had formed >after > > the > > > last surgery. My bowels were bound up and everything was stuck > > > together in there. Once he freed everything up, I felt >great...for > > a > > > little while. > > > > > > Then again within a short period the same thing happened. My >gyn > > now > > > feels that it was all a reaction to the implants. He said that > > since > > > my immune system was fighting the foreign body which it >couldn't > > get > > > rid of, the lymph nodes were doing what they were supposed to >which > > > is fight stuff. Sorry for being so non-technical! I don't >know > > what > > > you call it. Anyway, because of all that "fighting" going on, >the > > > adhesions went out of control as well. I ended up having to >have > > two > > > more surgeries for adhesions. 1 7 months after the >hysterectomy > > and > > > another one 5 months after that one. I can still feel the >enlarged > > > lymph nodes and I still have pain, but not enough to do >anything > > > about though! I'm not getting cut on again for a long long >time! > > > > > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > Patti, I am so sorry to bother you, but I am still >learning > > > how > > > > to > > > > > > use the Group site. I am asking for your help in >the > > > > > > instructions of the liver flush and where can I purchase >the > > > > Silca > > > > > > powder for the hair??? > > > > > > > > > > > > Patti, I am suppose to have explantation the end of May >by > > > > > > > > > > Kolb who is 5,100 with the lift, Dr. Feng was 6,500 >before a > > > > > lift. > > > > > > My little one has to go with her dad July 1-11th for his >2 > > week > > > > > > summer vacation and I feel I should reschedule for that > > time. > > > I > > > > > was > > > > > > told I won't be able to lift her for 3 weeks so changing >the > > > > appt > > > > > > would make since. > > > > > > > > > > > > Patti, Have you heard of women having swelling at back >area > > of > > > > the > > > > > > knee where it bends, feet and lower legs feeling tight? >Also > > > > have > > > > > > you heard of women having swelling of the lymph node area >and > > > > groin > > > > > > with Saline Implants. > > > > > > > > > > > > Patti, you along with so many seem so educated in this >matter > > > > and > > > > > > have helped so many, which makes you all true blessings. >Can > > > > you > > > > > > help me with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > I recently went to see the PS that put my implants in and >he > > > > said > > > > > the > > > > > > saline could not hurt my body. I asked him about the > > silicone > > > > sak > > > > > > that the saline is put in, he said that there is no way >the > > > body > > > > > > could absorb it. He said he had never heard of anyone >having > > > > > > problems with their Saline implants. I feel that it is >my > > > > implants > > > > > > and have to take a chance to feel better. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you have experienced this. Everyone is trying >to > > > > steer > > > > > me > > > > > > away from implants being the problem. Please email me >back. > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > so much.... JoAnn > > > > > > (Kentucky) > > > > > > > > > >