Re: Hair loss & organic vegetal silica

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Patty,

yes silica is good for the hair and nails. I'm defficient in that. I have fine skin hair and nails my entire life. I'm thinking of trying that. I bet it would be okay to take orally. Its not the same as silicone Patty. I worked with a nurse that said she tried all kinds of nail stuff and Loreal grow stronger made her nails grow like crazy. Just thought I'd add that. I'm trying it on my toe nails.

I spoke with a dietician at work one day and she had some great info. She said you can buy flax seed actually by the pound and since its seeds you have to chew them, but the content is much stronger, plus the seeds have high fiber. I told her I was taking the oil and pills which is fine too. She said with the seeds you get the "fiber" . She stressed people become toxic due to not having enough fiber in their diet. Fiber, fiber, fiber. That is so important. So load up on it if you can.

Regarding vitamins she said if you take them put them in regular vinegar and they dissolve they are probably okay, but if the vinegar is not breaking down the coating on the tablets then they aren't breaking down (digeting) in your tummy. That is a waist! She then said the better quality vitamins at the health food store or prob. fine. Just FYI. Some vitamins have really poor coatings etc. I thought oh great probably my multivitamin. I bough a walmart brand, although I do buy some at health food store. I tried the mulitvitamin and it did take forever to breakdown. So, I'm gonna get a different MVI.

Deb

kaceybu02 <kaceyalong@...> wrote:

HI Ladies,> I just had the most interesting conversation with the> woman at my health food store, who had contacted a> FLORA rep on my behalf because I had some questions> about silica. FLORA sells a product called organic> vegetal silica, which normally I would steer way clear> of, but I had read a book recently on hair loss that> discussed how valuable silica is for the hair, and> suggested using powdered vegetal silica and mixing it> in your shampoo, (among other things)to help> strengthen the hair shaft. Silica actually, not> surprisingly, is in our bodies in large quantities,> and helps build strong nails, hair, elastic skin and> connective tissue. (I have to really wonder why the> medical community can't make the connection to> silicone causing connective

tissue disease, as> silicone is a man-made substance, NOT identical to the> organic silica normally found in our bodies. We have> indications that synthetic hormones screw things up,> so why can't synthetic silicones screw things up?)> > Anyway, the discussion that ensued about my fear of> taking silica internally centered on the idea that the> silicone found in implants is fat soluble, while> organic vegetal silica found in plants is water> soluble. Maybe this is a key piece to the puzzle in> our healing, at least for those with silicone gel> issues, and for those who had a reaction to the> silicone shell of their salines, rather than> contaminated saline filling.> > The rep furthermore stated that the most difficult> substance that humans have had to be detoxed from is> Agent Orange (hmmm, another Dow product, no less), and> to detox

successfully from that takes ingestion of a> large amount of the healthy fats (such as evening> primrose oil, flax seed oil, fish oil, olive oil,> etc.), and then sweating it out. The large amounts of> healthy fats would probably cause our cells to flush> gunk out. > > He said that detoxing Agent Orange through the organs> would be much too stressful to them, so getting the> toxic substances out of the body through the skin is> the preferred method for healing from Agent Orange> exposure, according to the Flora Rep. This means high> amounts of healthy fats and sweating up a storm in> saunas.> > This really did make alot of sense to me! It would> seem to me that the liver flush, which has cured so> many people of various ailments is one way to ingest a> large amount of healthy fats and cause the body to> flush stuff. I have always felt

better right after a> liver flush. Now perhaps adding in that sweating> factor would benefit us even more.> > I just wanted to share that with you all. I thought> it was quite interesting. I still have a fear of> ingesting silica supplements, but I have to wonder,> (and the rep suggested this too), perhaps getting the> natural good silica would help in the long run with> building strong hair and nails? I can only wonder how> our bodies might react to a silica supplement....I> know too much of a good thing can be detrimental as> well.> > In any case, I will use the silica in my shampoo, and> start more use of my infrared sauna!> > Patty

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Hi Deb:

You're right in that vitamins and minerals are essential for the body, including hair, skin, and nails. My first bout with telogen effluvium was due to a very VERY low fat/ low protein diet that caused my iron stores (ferritin), TIBC, RBC, hemocrate, hemoglobin to drop to abnormally low levels. Combine that with 4 general anesthetic procedures back to back in 13 months= a big time hair loss disaster!

Before any of you think about going on some funky crash diet, think again. Your body needs GOOD FATS, protein (20 grams 3x per day according to U Virginia endo dept.), iron and vitamins.

I have an upcoming dermatology appointment on Wednesday about my recent telogen effluvium (from the HGH), I'll keep you all posted and get some advise. If their are any questions you all have on hair (mainly hair questions as this is the premise for my appointment)skin and nails, post back to me and, I'll ask this doctor.

My last doctor approved of the Lessman Hair Skin and Nail vitamin and also mineral supps. Make sure when choosing a hair vitamin, you choose one that has beta carotene as vitamin A and that it has a low amount of A in it. Too much A is notorious for causing telogen effluvium."Debbie B." <debsings04@...> wrote:

Patty,

yes silica is good for the hair and nails. I'm defficient in that. I have fine skin hair and nails my entire life. I'm thinking of trying that. I bet it would be okay to take orally. Its not the same as silicone Patty. I worked with a nurse that said she tried all kinds of nail stuff and Loreal grow stronger made her nails grow like crazy. Just thought I'd add that. I'm trying it on my toe nails.

I spoke with a dietician at work one day and she had some great info. She said you can buy flax seed actually by the pound and since its seeds you have to chew them, but the content is much stronger, plus the seeds have high fiber. I told her I was taking the oil and pills which is fine too. She said with the seeds you get the "fiber" . She stressed people become toxic due to not having enough fiber in their diet. Fiber, fiber, fiber. That is so important. So load up on it if you can.

Regarding vitamins she said if you take them put them in regular vinegar and they dissolve they are probably okay, but if the vinegar is not breaking down the coating on the tablets then they aren't breaking down (digeting) in your tummy. That is a waist! She then said the better quality vitamins at the health food store or prob. fine. Just FYI. Some vitamins have really poor coatings etc. I thought oh great probably my multivitamin. I bough a walmart brand, although I do buy some at health food store. I tried the mulitvitamin and it did take forever to breakdown. So, I'm gonna get a different MVI.

Deb

kaceybu02 <kaceyalong@...> wrote:

HI Ladies,> I just had the most interesting conversation with the> woman at my health food store, who had contacted a> FLORA rep on my behalf because I had some questions> about silica. FLORA sells a product called organic> vegetal silica, which normally I would steer way clear> of, but I had read a book recently on hair loss that> discussed how valuable silica is for the hair, and> suggested using powdered vegetal silica and mixing it> in your shampoo, (among other things)to help> strengthen the hair shaft. Silica actually, not> surprisingly, is in our bodies in large quantities,> and helps build strong nails, hair, elastic skin and> connective tissue. (I have to really wonder why the> medical community can't make the connection to> silicone causing connective

tissue disease, as> silicone is a man-made substance, NOT identical to the> organic silica normally found in our bodies. We have> indications that synthetic hormones screw things up,> so why can't synthetic silicones screw things up?)> > Anyway, the discussion that ensued about my fear of> taking silica internally centered on the idea that the> silicone found in implants is fat soluble, while> organic vegetal silica found in plants is water> soluble. Maybe this is a key piece to the puzzle in> our healing, at least for those with silicone gel> issues, and for those who had a reaction to the> silicone shell of their salines, rather than> contaminated saline filling.> > The rep furthermore stated that the most difficult> substance that humans have had to be detoxed from is> Agent Orange (hmmm, another Dow product, no less), and> to detox

successfully from that takes ingestion of a> large amount of the healthy fats (such as evening> primrose oil, flax seed oil, fish oil, olive oil,> etc.), and then sweating it out. The large amounts of> healthy fats would probably cause our cells to flush> gunk out. > > He said that detoxing Agent Orange through the organs> would be much too stressful to them, so getting the> toxic substances out of the body through the skin is> the preferred method for healing from Agent Orange> exposure, according to the Flora Rep. This means high> amounts of healthy fats and sweating up a storm in> saunas.> > This really did make alot of sense to me! It would> seem to me that the liver flush, which has cured so> many people of various ailments is one way to ingest a> large amount of healthy fats and cause the body to> flush stuff. I have always felt

better right after a> liver flush. Now perhaps adding in that sweating> factor would benefit us even more.> > I just wanted to share that with you all. I thought> it was quite interesting. I still have a fear of> ingesting silica supplements, but I have to wonder,> (and the rep suggested this too), perhaps getting the> natural good silica would help in the long run with> building strong hair and nails? I can only wonder how> our bodies might react to a silica supplement....I> know too much of a good thing can be detrimental as> well.> > In any case, I will use the silica in my shampoo, and> start more use of my infrared sauna!> > Patty

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P.S.

BTW, what exactly is organic vegetable silica? I was told at Cleveland Clinic that this is good for hair--biotin too. It's in the Lessman mineral pills.

If it grows my hair, I'll take it. Heck, I'd rub **** on my head if I knew it would help. lol!Jane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@...> wrote:

Hi Deb:

You're right in that vitamins and minerals are essential for the body, including hair, skin, and nails. My first bout with telogen effluvium was due to a very VERY low fat/ low protein diet that caused my iron stores (ferritin), TIBC, RBC, hemocrate, hemoglobin to drop to abnormally low levels. Combine that with 4 general anesthetic procedures back to back in 13 months= a big time hair loss disaster!

Before any of you think about going on some funky crash diet, think again. Your body needs GOOD FATS, protein (20 grams 3x per day according to U Virginia endo dept.), iron and vitamins.

I have an upcoming dermatology appointment on Wednesday about my recent telogen effluvium (from the HGH), I'll keep you all posted and get some advise. If their are any questions you all have on hair (mainly hair questions as this is the premise for my appointment)skin and nails, post back to me and, I'll ask this doctor.

My last doctor approved of the Lessman Hair Skin and Nail vitamin and also mineral supps. Make sure when choosing a hair vitamin, you choose one that has beta carotene as vitamin A and that it has a low amount of A in it. Too much A is notorious for causing telogen effluvium."Debbie B." <debsings04@...> wrote:

Patty,

yes silica is good for the hair and nails. I'm defficient in that. I have fine skin hair and nails my entire life. I'm thinking of trying that. I bet it would be okay to take orally. Its not the same as silicone Patty. I worked with a nurse that said she tried all kinds of nail stuff and Loreal grow stronger made her nails grow like crazy. Just thought I'd add that. I'm trying it on my toe nails.

I spoke with a dietician at work one day and she had some great info. She said you can buy flax seed actually by the pound and since its seeds you have to chew them, but the content is much stronger, plus the seeds have high fiber. I told her I was taking the oil and pills which is fine too. She said with the seeds you get the "fiber" . She stressed people become toxic due to not having enough fiber in their diet. Fiber, fiber, fiber. That is so important. So load up on it if you can.

Regarding vitamins she said if you take them put them in regular vinegar and they dissolve they are probably okay, but if the vinegar is not breaking down the coating on the tablets then they aren't breaking down (digeting) in your tummy. That is a waist! She then said the better quality vitamins at the health food store or prob. fine. Just FYI. Some vitamins have really poor coatings etc. I thought oh great probably my multivitamin. I bough a walmart brand, although I do buy some at health food store. I tried the mulitvitamin and it did take forever to breakdown. So, I'm gonna get a different MVI.

Deb

kaceybu02 <kaceyalong@...> wrote:

HI Ladies,> I just had the most interesting conversation with the> woman at my health food store, who had contacted a> FLORA rep on my behalf because I had some questions> about silica. FLORA sells a product called organic> vegetal silica, which normally I would steer way clear> of, but I had read a book recently on hair loss that> discussed how valuable silica is for the hair, and> suggested using powdered vegetal silica and mixing it> in your shampoo, (among other things)to help> strengthen the hair shaft. Silica actually, not> surprisingly, is in our bodies in large quantities,> and helps build strong nails, hair, elastic skin and> connective tissue. (I have to really wonder why the> medical community can't make the connection to> silicone causing connective

tissue disease, as> silicone is a man-made substance, NOT identical to the> organic silica normally found in our bodies. We have> indications that synthetic hormones screw things up,> so why can't synthetic silicones screw things up?)> > Anyway, the discussion that ensued about my fear of> taking silica internally centered on the idea that the> silicone found in implants is fat soluble, while> organic vegetal silica found in plants is water> soluble. Maybe this is a key piece to the puzzle in> our healing, at least for those with silicone gel> issues, and for those who had a reaction to the> silicone shell of their salines, rather than> contaminated saline filling.> > The rep furthermore stated that the most difficult> substance that humans have had to be detoxed from is> Agent Orange (hmmm, another Dow product, no less), and> to detox

successfully from that takes ingestion of a> large amount of the healthy fats (such as evening> primrose oil, flax seed oil, fish oil, olive oil,> etc.), and then sweating it out. The large amounts of> healthy fats would probably cause our cells to flush> gunk out. > > He said that detoxing Agent Orange through the organs> would be much too stressful to them, so getting the> toxic substances out of the body through the skin is> the preferred method for healing from Agent Orange> exposure, according to the Flora Rep. This means high> amounts of healthy fats and sweating up a storm in> saunas.> > This really did make alot of sense to me! It would> seem to me that the liver flush, which has cured so> many people of various ailments is one way to ingest a> large amount of healthy fats and cause the body to> flush stuff. I have always felt

better right after a> liver flush. Now perhaps adding in that sweating> factor would benefit us even more.> > I just wanted to share that with you all. I thought> it was quite interesting. I still have a fear of> ingesting silica supplements, but I have to wonder,> (and the rep suggested this too), perhaps getting the> natural good silica would help in the long run with> building strong hair and nails? I can only wonder how> our bodies might react to a silica supplement....I> know too much of a good thing can be detrimental as> well.> > In any case, I will use the silica in my shampoo, and> start more use of my infrared sauna!> > Patty

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--- " Debbie B. " <debsings04@...> wrote:

> Patty,

>

> yes silica is good for the hair and nails. I'm

> defficient in that. I have fine skin hair and nails

> my entire life. I'm thinking of trying that. I bet

> it would be okay to take orally. Its not the same as

> silicone Patty. I worked with a nurse that said she

> tried all kinds of nail stuff and Loreal grow

> stronger made her nails grow like crazy. Just

> thought I'd add that. I'm trying it on my toe nails.

>

> I spoke with a dietician at work one day and she had

> some great info. She said you can buy flax seed

> actually by the pound and since its seeds you have

> to chew them, but the content is much stronger, plus

> the seeds have high fiber. I told her I was taking

> the oil and pills which is fine too. She said with

> the seeds you get the " fiber " . She stressed people

> become toxic due to not having enough fiber in their

> diet. Fiber, fiber, fiber. That is so important. So

> load up on it if you can.

>

> Regarding vitamins she said if you take them put

> them in regular vinegar and they dissolve they are

> probably okay, but if the vinegar is not breaking

> down the coating on the tablets then they aren't

> breaking down (digeting) in your tummy. That is a

> waist! She then said the better quality vitamins at

> the health food store or prob. fine. Just FYI. Some

> vitamins have really poor coatings etc. I thought oh

> great probably my multivitamin. I bough a walmart

> brand, although I do buy some at health food store.

> I tried the mulitvitamin and it did take forever to

> breakdown. So, I'm gonna get a different MVI.

>

> Deb

>

>

> kaceybu02 <kaceyalong@...> wrote:

> HI Ladies,

> > I just had the most interesting conversation with

> the

> > woman at my health food store, who had contacted a

> > FLORA rep on my behalf because I had some

> questions

> > about silica. FLORA sells a product called

> organic

> > vegetal silica, which normally I would steer way

> clear

> > of, but I had read a book recently on hair loss

> that

> > discussed how valuable silica is for the hair, and

> > suggested using powdered vegetal silica and mixing

> it

> > in your shampoo, (among other things)to help

> > strengthen the hair shaft. Silica actually, not

> > surprisingly, is in our bodies in large

> quantities,

> > and helps build strong nails, hair, elastic skin

> and

> > connective tissue. (I have to really wonder why

> the

> > medical community can't make the connection to

> > silicone causing connective tissue disease, as

> > silicone is a man-made substance, NOT identical to

> the

> > organic silica normally found in our bodies. We

> have

> > indications that synthetic hormones screw things

> up,

> > so why can't synthetic silicones screw things up?)

> >

> > Anyway, the discussion that ensued about my fear

> of

> > taking silica internally centered on the idea that

> the

> > silicone found in implants is fat soluble, while

> > organic vegetal silica found in plants is water

> > soluble. Maybe this is a key piece to the puzzle

> in

> > our healing, at least for those with silicone gel

> > issues, and for those who had a reaction to the

> > silicone shell of their salines, rather than

> > contaminated saline filling.

> >

> > The rep furthermore stated that the most difficult

> > substance that humans have had to be detoxed from

> is

> > Agent Orange (hmmm, another Dow product, no less),

> and

> > to detox successfully from that takes ingestion of

> a

> > large amount of the healthy fats (such as evening

> > primrose oil, flax seed oil, fish oil, olive oil,

> > etc.), and then sweating it out. The large

> amounts of

> > healthy fats would probably cause our cells to

> flush

> > gunk out.

> >

> > He said that detoxing Agent Orange through the

> organs

> > would be much too stressful to them, so getting

> the

> > toxic substances out of the body through the skin

> is

> > the preferred method for healing from Agent Orange

> > exposure, according to the Flora Rep. This means

> high

> > amounts of healthy fats and sweating up a storm in

> > saunas.

> >

> > This really did make alot of sense to me! It

> would

> > seem to me that the liver flush, which has cured

> so

> > many people of various ailments is one way to

> ingest a

> > large amount of healthy fats and cause the body to

> > flush stuff. I have always felt better right after

> a

> > liver flush. Now perhaps adding in that sweating

> > factor would benefit us even more.

> >

> > I just wanted to share that with you all. I

> thought

> > it was quite interesting. I still have a fear of

> > ingesting silica supplements, but I have to

> wonder,

> > (and the rep suggested this too), perhaps getting

> the

> > natural good silica would help in the long run

> with

> > building strong hair and nails? I can only wonder

> how

> > our bodies might react to a silica supplement....I

> > know too much of a good thing can be detrimental

> as

> > well.

> >

> > In any case, I will use the silica in my shampoo,

> and

> > start more use of my infrared sauna!

> >

> > Patty

>

>

>

>

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