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JD:

THank you for your care and concern. Fortunately for me, I have

stopped losing hair and def know the cause and once I stopped the

armour thyroid it took about another 3 months for my thryoid levels

to be normalized and then it began to grow in. However, my hair was

long, almost to my lower back in the very back, but it was thin at

the ends, it broke my heart to cut it but I had to if I wanted it to

ever look nice and normal again. So i chopped it off to my shoulders

and now it is really thickening up again. No it is not as thick as it

was, but lately I have begun to get compliments again, I always had

the kind of hair that people noticed ya know, and so it was hard when

I just had that kind of hair that is so - so. NOt knocking thinner

hair just that when you have had thick hair all your freaking life

it is really pretty traumatic to suddenly have thinner hair.

Anyhow I think if you look in the photos section there are some pics

from when I first cut it that look really good, it is way thicker

now, So i need to post the pics of how it is looking now I guess, it

is not only thicker but also blonder again for summer and has grown

so fast too. I am glad, I want my LONG hair back again,

it sucks to lose your hair, it is so horrible, I cried and cried

every time I had to wash it, it was a nightmare!

THANK YOU JD YOU ARE VERY KIND

hugs

-

In , Jane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@y...>

wrote:

> :

> I'm so sorry this happened to you. I'm fully aware of the pain that

comes with hair loss. Please be certain to seek medical help for this

because you never know if something else can be disrupted in your

endocrine balance.Taking thyroid medication, especially if you don't

need it will make your hair fall out. You might also want to see the

following websites: www.florisene.com and www.keratin.com. This

medical condition is refered to as telogen effluvium. It's common

with hormone disruptions, surgery, fever, iron deficiency, stress,

systemic illness and infection.

> Take care of yourself and your hair should come back in time.I'll

say a prayer for you and me both.

>

>

> naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote:

> I AGREE 100% with you on this one. I took armour thyroid because I

> was told I was hypo well I was not hypo, I lost half or more of my

> thick head of hair. It was a nightmarish experience let me tell ya.

I

> think we all need to be very careful of hormones all the time.

> THanks

> -C

>

>

>

>

>

>

> In , Jane Doe

> wrote:

> > What are phyto oestrogens? Are they bad estrogens? I wonder about

> screwing up one's hormones with the use of synthetic BCP and

hormones

> used in foods? Any comments, feedback? To be on the safe side, I

eat

> grain feed chicken and eat cheese and milk that is hormone free.

> >

> > . Be careful of taking hormones you don't need, natural or

> synthetic.

> >

> > Fiona Parkinson wrote:

> > Thanx Patty, just as I suspected: hand us your money, and we'll

> sell you a whole lotta hooey !

> >

> > Fiona

> > rt/messages

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Thanks JD:

I had all the blood test, the Feritin was fine and above 70, B12 was

high, from my shots I am sure, he told me that was fine. Heres the

thing, it is allot thicker, and I have new growth all over my head,

but how long does it take for it to all catch up? Seems forever!

anyhow it is better and I am thankful for that. Hormones are really

tricky and best not messed wtih unless absolutely necesary!

Thanks so much

In , Jane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@y...>

wrote:

> :

> Sometimes the hair is not as thick after having gone through a

telogen effluvium episode. I have had many episodes, following

surgery, anemia, crash diet, and taking hormones I did not need (HGH

injections, synthroid).

>

> To help aid your hair in growing back the best it can, take a

multivitamin, iron supplement and eat 20 grams of lean protein three

times per day. I got this advice from an endocrinologist at the

University of Virginia, and Washington University.They also

advised my of the dangers of taking hormones that one does not need

and it's impact on the disruption of the endocrine system that does

often result in hair loss.

>

> My dermatologist also urged me to take biotin and to have my serum

ferritin be over 70.I take Lessman Hair, skin and nails

vitamins and I'm eating better now.

>

> I also had blood tests to rule out hormone problems.

>

> Glad I can help, I know hair loss can be very painful. Don't worry,

your hair will be long again. I had hair down to the bottom of my

butt and had to cut it short, very devastating. It's mid back now,

but I'm having another surgery.

> Take Care.

> " Jane Doe "

>

> naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote:

> JD:

>

> THank you for your care and concern. Fortunately for me, I have

> stopped losing hair and def know the cause and once I stopped the

> armour thyroid it took about another 3 months for my thryoid levels

> to be normalized and then it began to grow in. However, my hair was

> long, almost to my lower back in the very back, but it was thin at

> the ends, it broke my heart to cut it but I had to if I wanted it

to

> ever look nice and normal again. So i chopped it off to my

shoulders

> and now it is really thickening up again. No it is not as thick as

it

> was, but lately I have begun to get compliments again, I always had

> the kind of hair that people noticed ya know, and so it was hard

when

> I just had that kind of hair that is so - so. NOt knocking thinner

> hair just that when you have had thick hair all your freaking life

> it is really pretty traumatic to suddenly have thinner hair.

> Anyhow I think if you look in the photos section there are some

pics

> from when I first cut it that look really good, it is way thicker

> now, So i need to post the pics of how it is looking now I guess,

it

> is not only thicker but also blonder again for summer and has grown

> so fast too. I am glad, I want my LONG hair back again,

> it sucks to lose your hair, it is so horrible, I cried and cried

> every time I had to wash it, it was a nightmare!

> THANK YOU JD YOU ARE VERY KIND

> hugs

> -

>

>

>

>

> In , Jane Doe

> wrote:

> > :

> > I'm so sorry this happened to you. I'm fully aware of the pain

that

> comes with hair loss. Please be certain to seek medical help for

this

> because you never know if something else can be disrupted in your

> endocrine balance.Taking thyroid medication, especially if you

don't

> need it will make your hair fall out. You might also want to see

the

> following websites: www.florisene.com and www.keratin.com. This

> medical condition is refered to as telogen effluvium. It's common

> with hormone disruptions, surgery, fever, iron deficiency, stress,

> systemic illness and infection.

> > Take care of yourself and your hair should come back in time.I'll

> say a prayer for you and me both.

> >

> >

> > naturalbeauty38 wrote:

> > I AGREE 100% with you on this one. I took armour thyroid because

I

> > was told I was hypo well I was not hypo, I lost half or more of

my

> > thick head of hair. It was a nightmarish experience let me tell

ya.

> I

> > think we all need to be very careful of hormones all the time.

> > THanks

> > -C

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In , Jane Doe

> > wrote:

> > > What are phyto oestrogens? Are they bad estrogens? I wonder

about

> > screwing up one's hormones with the use of synthetic BCP and

> hormones

> > used in foods? Any comments, feedback? To be on the safe side, I

> eat

> > grain feed chicken and eat cheese and milk that is hormone free.

> > >

> > > . Be careful of taking hormones you don't need, natural or

> > synthetic.

> > >

> > > Fiona Parkinson wrote:

> > > Thanx Patty, just as I suspected: hand us your money, and we'll

> > sell you a whole lotta hooey !

> > >

> > > Fiona

> > > rt/messages

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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JD:

THanks, and yes my thryoid is fine now. I trust the blood tests in my

case, as the mistake was made by my Dr's PA(physicians assistant) who

retired about a month after diagnosing me severely Hypothryoid. It

was a crock of s##t! I never had hypothyroidism EVER! I wish I would

not have believed her, but I was still somewhat sick from implants

(getting allot better by then) but tired and sluggish at times (it

was just normal tiredness nothing more) but she had me going and

convinced I was very hypo, it seemed to make sense to me at the time,

and since I knew Patty was on armour and a few others, maybe

can't recall but I thought it sounded like it was true. SHE READ MY

LABS WRONG. I was actually slightly hyperactive, just barely and not

enough to worry about, however, I should never have been put on

armour thyroid never ever! She read the labs wrong and thought that I

was hypo, and so for the next 8 months I had nervousness, could not

sleep, ate all the time(never gained a pound but was always hungry)

rapid heartbeat, elevated blood pressure ( it usually was low like 90

over 55 and while on armour it was like 120 over 75) normal yeah, but

high for ME. I was losing tons of hair and at first I was not that

convcerned because I had so much hair I asumed it would never be

missed. I think that after 8 months though I began to notice when

putting my hair up or in a pony tail it was not as fat of a pony

tail, and esp when blowing it dry it was taking 20 minutes rather 45

minutes to dry. I noticed that my black throw rug in my bathroom was

constently covered with my long blonde hair and so were my clothes,

the chair I sat in at work, it was really freaking everywhere, it

freaked me out bad enough that I went and demanded a copy of my labs

and brought them to work where I new I would see one of our best endo

Dr's who was a really nice guy. He came in onle day and I asked him

to check them out and his first words were that I probably did not

need the armour at all, he also wanted me to check them immediately

and when I did they were all wacky, I was totally hyper. My Dr told

me to stop the armour and also told me the PA that had been treating

me had retired and that she might have been a little confused about

the labs, BOY HER CONFUSION COST ME MY HAIR!

SO after that I just waited as long as I could to color it or

anything, If you ever look at the photos of me with my family in the

photo section you can see my hair was long and blonde with about 7

inchest of roots because I was afraid to color it. Finally and I went

a bit darker so i would not have color it too much, started using the

nioxin products(RIP OFF) and then went ahead and finally chopped it

off when it had really begun to thicken up.

Now I am half way there (thickness and legnth wise) what a nightmare,

I would not wish that on my worse enemy!

hugs-

-C

In , Jane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@y...>

wrote:

> :

> I agree. Did you have any other symptoms besides hair loss from the

thyroid meds? I did. Tachacadia, shortness of breath, exterme

jitters, sleeplessness, and an " eyeball popping " sensation. It also

felt as though my bones where growing through my skin. This is what a

half grain of synthroid did.I was on it for five days.I went

hyperthyroid.

>

> Is your thyroid ok now?

>

> naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote:

> Thanks JD:

> I had all the blood test, the Feritin was fine and above 70, B12

was

> high, from my shots I am sure, he told me that was fine. Heres the

> thing, it is allot thicker, and I have new growth all over my head,

> but how long does it take for it to all catch up? Seems forever!

> anyhow it is better and I am thankful for that. Hormones are really

> tricky and best not messed wtih unless absolutely necesary!

> Thanks so much

>

>

>

>

>

>

> In , Jane Doe

> wrote:

> > :

> > Sometimes the hair is not as thick after having gone through a

> telogen effluvium episode. I have had many episodes, following

> surgery, anemia, crash diet, and taking hormones I did not need

(HGH

> injections, synthroid).

> >

> > To help aid your hair in growing back the best it can, take a

> multivitamin, iron supplement and eat 20 grams of lean protein

three

> times per day. I got this advice from an endocrinologist at the

> University of Virginia, and Washington University.They also

> advised my of the dangers of taking hormones that one does not need

> and it's impact on the disruption of the endocrine system that does

> often result in hair loss.

> >

> > My dermatologist also urged me to take biotin and to have my

serum

> ferritin be over 70.I take Lessman Hair, skin and nails

> vitamins and I'm eating better now.

> >

> > I also had blood tests to rule out hormone problems.

> >

> > Glad I can help, I know hair loss can be very painful. Don't

worry,

> your hair will be long again. I had hair down to the bottom of my

> butt and had to cut it short, very devastating. It's mid back now,

> but I'm having another surgery.

> > Take Care.

> > " Jane Doe "

> >

> > naturalbeauty38 wrote:

> > JD:

> >

> > THank you for your care and concern. Fortunately for me, I have

> > stopped losing hair and def know the cause and once I stopped the

> > armour thyroid it took about another 3 months for my thryoid

levels

> > to be normalized and then it began to grow in. However, my hair

was

> > long, almost to my lower back in the very back, but it was thin

at

> > the ends, it broke my heart to cut it but I had to if I wanted it

> to

> > ever look nice and normal again. So i chopped it off to my

> shoulders

> > and now it is really thickening up again. No it is not as thick

as

> it

> > was, but lately I have begun to get compliments again, I always

had

> > the kind of hair that people noticed ya know, and so it was hard

> when

> > I just had that kind of hair that is so - so. NOt knocking

thinner

> > hair just that when you have had thick hair all your freaking

life

> > it is really pretty traumatic to suddenly have thinner hair.

> > Anyhow I think if you look in the photos section there are some

> pics

> > from when I first cut it that look really good, it is way thicker

> > now, So i need to post the pics of how it is looking now I guess,

> it

> > is not only thicker but also blonder again for summer and has

grown

> > so fast too. I am glad, I want my LONG hair back again,

> > it sucks to lose your hair, it is so horrible, I cried and cried

> > every time I had to wash it, it was a nightmare!

> > THANK YOU JD YOU ARE VERY KIND

> > hugs

> > -

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In , Jane Doe

> > wrote:

> > > :

> > > I'm so sorry this happened to you. I'm fully aware of the pain

> that

> > comes with hair loss. Please be certain to seek medical help for

> this

> > because you never know if something else can be disrupted in your

> > endocrine balance.Taking thyroid medication, especially if you

> don't

> > need it will make your hair fall out. You might also want to see

> the

> > following websites: www.florisene.com and www.keratin.com. This

> > medical condition is refered to as telogen effluvium. It's common

> > with hormone disruptions, surgery, fever, iron deficiency,

stress,

> > systemic illness and infection.

> > > Take care of yourself and your hair should come back in

time.I'll

> > say a prayer for you and me both.

> > >

> > >

> > > naturalbeauty38 wrote:

> > > I AGREE 100% with you on this one. I took armour thyroid

because

> I

> > > was told I was hypo well I was not hypo, I lost half or more of

> my

> > > thick head of hair. It was a nightmarish experience let me tell

> ya.

> > I

> > > think we all need to be very careful of hormones all the time.

> > > THanks

> > > -C

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In , Jane Doe

> > > wrote:

> > > > What are phyto oestrogens? Are they bad estrogens? I wonder

> about

> > > screwing up one's hormones with the use of synthetic BCP and

> > hormones

> > > used in foods? Any comments, feedback? To be on the safe side,

I

> > eat

> > > grain feed chicken and eat cheese and milk that is hormone free.

> > > >

> > > > . Be careful of taking hormones you don't need, natural or

> > > synthetic.

> > > >

> > > > Fiona Parkinson wrote:

> > > > Thanx Patty, just as I suspected: hand us your money, and

we'll

> > > sell you a whole lotta hooey !

> > > >

> > > > Fiona

> > > > rt/messages

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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