Re: For Deb

May 26, 2004

You wrote that you weren't keeping up with your detox regimen because you were lazy-it's not true....You are sick! I have all the right pills, juicers, powders and potions to probably heal me but because of my fatigue and confusion, I'm still looking at the bottles saying-Now what's this for again??-I have Candida which is tough to fight-Do you have that??Love, Daryl

From: debsings04

Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 4:22 PM

Subject: anybody out there today? Nothing important just talking to anybody that will lis

Hey saline support,wishing all you girls the best.Just wondering. I haven't heard too many stories of women that have had implants out and are doing really well. It seems most the girls here are still so ill. I'm just wondering if anybody knows anything about what I'm talking about. I'm wanting to hear some good stories on recoveries. I want some good reports on explants. Anybody hear of any recent?My PS's wife had saline implants, then got silicone. I think about her sometimes and wonder how she will be 10 yrs down the road and their marriage and what he will find out if she gets ill. This will be interesting. My friends' hairdresser had silicone for 12 yrs and never had problems. I wonder how she is now. Its been 6 yrs since I was around here. I wonder how she is, or if she ever got ill.I had asked last time I was here about celebs and implants. Well, even if they are so famous you would still think that if they felt sick and terrible they would put 2 and 2 together and do something about it. Especially if they were deathly ill, suicidal, depressed and had 10 diagnoses like many of the women here.It makes me wonder if implants are affecting them at all. I can see how prestige would not make you want to speak up about it, but if they were to get so ill like many of the the women here they would speak up and nobody would stop them. They would be hell bent and determine, know what i mean. I mean if one of them got a bad hair coloring job or cut they would tell everyone about it. Nobody would go to those hairstylist. What is the deal with breast being any different. They certainly have the power to do something. Then I look at Faith Hill who I absolutely adore and she is so drop dead gorgeous and yet she's flat and never had implants.I'm just talking out loud. On the detox thing I've noticed I feel better after coffee enemas. Have done 3 now. I can't say my pain is less, but I just feel better some how. It could be psychological, but I can tell my head clears after the enemas, so it must be working. I took melatonin one night and got super dizzy so I threw it out. I stayed dizzy for a week. I literally felt drunk. It was horrible. So if I react that strong and it makes me ill no matter what the supplement I don't keep taking it. How stupid. Most things I 've taken herbal wise I've done alright. I was going to get some milk thistle today, but am scared to take it. Has anybody here gotten significant benefits from it. I've tried a few other things like flax oil, primal defense etc, vitamins etc.I and am tolerating those fine. I have not had problems with constipation, just the other way. I have 2-3 stools a day. Sorry, didn't mean to grose anybody out. Just the medical side in me talking. Very comfortable talking about bowels. he.he.I'd love to go extremely healthy, do colonics, eat super great etc, but its hard with my husband, plus I just don't want to right now. I'll be honest. I'm just being lazy and procrastinating. I must admit though it is hard when your husband loves fried foods and is a meat and potato man. We argue everytime it comes to buying groceries.I bet I would feel even 10 times better if I did change my eating habits. I'm just procrastinating. I'm eating way too much chocolate. I must need something in the chocolate because I have to have it every single day. I appreciate this site being here for me. Just so everybody knows everybody contributes and I've gotten really good ideas and self help from reading the posts. I think there are so many brave women here and I love reading the stories. I wish everybody the best.Deb

May 26, 2004

Daryl: I dont mean to sound rude or anything but if you dont take charge of your health, you'll never get better! As hard as it is, (everyone in this group has gone through it) you have to pull yourself up and do something about it. Pills, juicers, detox programs, none of that works unless you do it everyday, and the more you do it the better you'll feel. It is hard at first but the end result is worth it. Dont let your husband push you down farther than you are. At some point you have got to stand on your own and be the one who gets you better. Who knows maybe at that point you can work something out with him, if you want or you'll find someone soooo much better. As I said I'm not trying to be harsh. I can imagine if my husband left me and hope I dont have to go through anything like that. but I'd like to think if he did, I've gone through so much and am a strong enough person that I'd get through it

with the help of friends and family and never let him know that he hurt me soooo bad. I'm to stubborn for that.

Take care of yourself first so you can care for your son.

VickieDaryl <daryljean@...> wrote:

You wrote that you weren't keeping up with your detox regimen because you were lazy-it's not true....You are sick! I have all the right pills, juicers, powders and potions to probably heal me but because of my fatigue and confusion, I'm still looking at the bottles saying-Now what's this for again??-I have Candida which is tough to fight-Do you have that??Love, Daryl

From: debsings04

Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 4:22 PM

Subject: anybody out there today? Nothing important just talking to anybody that will lis

Hey saline support,wishing all you girls the best.Just wondering. I haven't heard too many stories of women that have had implants out and are doing really well. It seems most the girls here are still so ill. I'm just wondering if anybody knows anything about what I'm talking about. I'm wanting to hear some good stories on recoveries. I want some good reports on explants. Anybody hear of any recent?My PS's wife had saline implants, then got silicone. I think about her sometimes and wonder how she will be 10 yrs down the road and their marriage and what he will find out if she gets ill. This will be interesting. My friends' hairdresser had silicone for 12 yrs and never had problems. I wonder how she is now. Its been 6 yrs since I was around here. I wonder how she is, or if she ever got ill.I had asked last time I was here about celebs and implants. Well, even if they are so famous you would

still think that if they felt sick and terrible they would put 2 and 2 together and do something about it. Especially if they were deathly ill, suicidal, depressed and had 10 diagnoses like many of the women here.It makes me wonder if implants are affecting them at all. I can see how prestige would not make you want to speak up about it, but if they were to get so ill like many of the the women here they would speak up and nobody would stop them. They would be hell bent and determine, know what i mean. I mean if one of them got a bad hair coloring job or cut they would tell everyone about it. Nobody would go to those hairstylist. What is the deal with breast being any different. They certainly have the power to do something. Then I look at Faith Hill who I absolutely adore and she is so drop dead gorgeous and yet she's flat and never had implants.I'm just talking out loud. On the detox thing I've noticed I feel

better after coffee enemas. Have done 3 now. I can't say my pain is less, but I just feel better some how. It could be psychological, but I can tell my head clears after the enemas, so it must be working. I took melatonin one night and got super dizzy so I threw it out. I stayed dizzy for a week. I literally felt drunk. It was horrible. So if I react that strong and it makes me ill no matter what the supplement I don't keep taking it. How stupid. Most things I 've taken herbal wise I've done alright. I was going to get some milk thistle today, but am scared to take it. Has anybody here gotten significant benefits from it. I've tried a few other things like flax oil, primal defense etc, vitamins etc.I and am tolerating those fine. I have not had problems with constipation, just the other way. I have 2-3 stools a day. Sorry, didn't mean to grose anybody out. Just the medical side in me talking. Very comfortable talking about

bowels. he.he.I'd love to go extremely healthy, do colonics, eat super great etc, but its hard with my husband, plus I just don't want to right now. I'll be honest. I'm just being lazy and procrastinating. I must admit though it is hard when your husband loves fried foods and is a meat and potato man. We argue everytime it comes to buying groceries.I bet I would feel even 10 times better if I did change my eating habits. I'm just procrastinating. I'm eating way too much chocolate. I must need something in the chocolate because I have to have it every single day. I appreciate this site being here for me. Just so everybody knows everybody contributes and I've gotten really good ideas and self help from reading the posts. I think there are so many brave women here and I love reading the stories. I wish everybody the best.Deb

May 27, 2004

I disagree with your statement Deb the majority of the girls that are

here may still be ill because they only recently explanted, I am 3

years post explant and very much well. It take a few years and I

don't believe there is one right way or wrong way, we all find our

own paths, at least that is what worked for me.

-

In , " Daryl " <daryljean@c...>

wrote:

> You wrote that you weren't keeping up with your detox regimen

because you were lazy-it's not true....You are sick! I have all the

right pills, juicers, powders and potions to probably heal me but

because of my fatigue and confusion, I'm still looking at the bottles

saying-Now what's this for again??-I have Candida which is tough to

fight-Do you have that??Love, Daryl

> From: debsings04

>

> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 4:22 PM

> Subject: anybody out there today? Nothing

important just talking to anybody that will lis

>

> Hey saline support,

>

> wishing all you girls the best.

>

> Just wondering. I haven't heard too many stories of women that

have

> had implants out and are doing really well. It seems most the

girls

> here are still so ill. I'm just wondering if anybody knows

anything

> about what I'm talking about. I'm wanting to hear some good

stories

> on recoveries. I want some good reports on explants. Anybody hear

of

> any recent?

>

> My PS's wife had saline implants, then got silicone. I think

about

> her sometimes and wonder how she will be 10 yrs down the road and

> their marriage and what he will find out if she gets ill. This

will

> be interesting. My friends' hairdresser had silicone for 12 yrs

and

> never had problems. I wonder how she is now. Its been 6 yrs since

I

> was around here. I wonder how she is, or if she ever got ill.

>

> I had asked last time I was here about celebs and implants. Well,

> even if they are so famous you would still think that if they

felt

> sick and terrible they would put 2 and 2 together and do

something

> about it. Especially if they were deathly ill, suicidal,

depressed

> and had 10 diagnoses like many of the women here.It makes me

wonder

> if implants are affecting them at all. I can see how prestige

would

> not make you want to speak up about it, but if they were to get

so

> ill like many of the the women here they would speak up and

nobody

> would stop them. They would be hell bent and determine, know what

i

> mean. I mean if one of them got a bad hair coloring job or cut

they

> would tell everyone about it. Nobody would go to those

hairstylist.

> What is the deal with breast being any different. They certainly

> have the power to do something. Then I look at Faith Hill who I

> absolutely adore and she is so drop dead gorgeous and yet she's

flat

> and never had implants.

>

> I'm just talking out loud.

>

> On the detox thing I've noticed I feel better after coffee

enemas.

> Have done 3 now. I can't say my pain is less, but I just feel

better

> some how. It could be psychological, but I can tell my head

clears

> after the enemas, so it must be working. I took melatonin one

night

> and got super dizzy so I threw it out. I stayed dizzy for a week.

I

> literally felt drunk. It was horrible. So if I react that strong

and

> it makes me ill no matter what the supplement I don't keep taking

> it. How stupid. Most things I 've taken herbal wise I've done

> alright. I was going to get some milk thistle today, but am

scared

> to take it. Has anybody here gotten significant benefits from it.

> I've tried a few other things like flax oil, primal defense etc,

> vitamins etc.I and am tolerating those fine. I have not had

problems

> with constipation, just the other way. I have 2-3 stools a day.

> Sorry, didn't mean to grose anybody out. Just the medical side in

me

> talking. Very comfortable talking about bowels. he.he.

>

> I'd love to go extremely healthy, do colonics, eat super great

etc,

> but its hard with my husband, plus I just don't want to right

now.

> I'll be honest. I'm just being lazy and procrastinating. I must

> admit though it is hard when your husband loves fried foods and

is a

> meat and potato man. We argue everytime it comes to buying

groceries.

>

> I bet I would feel even 10 times better if I did change my eating

> habits. I'm just procrastinating. I'm eating way too much

chocolate.

> I must need something in the chocolate because I have to have it

> every single day.

>

> I appreciate this site being here for me. Just so everybody knows

> everybody contributes and I've gotten really good ideas and self

> help from reading the posts. I think there are so many brave

women

> here and I love reading the stories. I wish everybody the best.

>

> Deb

>

December 12, 2008

You are very welcome Ann, and it is mu pleasure.

Deb

From: neck pain

[mailto:neck pain ] On Behalf Of Ann Wood Fuller

Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 5:30 AM

neck pain

Subject: FOR DEB

Deb,

It is really great to have an RN on this site--

THANK you for your vast input and knowledge!

Ann

A poet is, after all, to see

>Personally, because of all the stress I'm going through, I am very

>angry and depressed.

>

>Jeannie

Jeannie, I'm sorry to hear this. I agree with the others who replied

and said you may have to just say know. You are in pain everyday and

I'm sure your income is limited by your condition. You are not in a

position to be a caregiver. You shouldn't especially in your

condition and in this economy put yourself in deep debt. I think the

advice of have your daughter move to Vegas may be a great idea. I'm

not sure why you are scared for your daughters safety but if her

husband is a threat to others and himself maybe he should check into

a hospital. Even with no insurance they have to treat him. If they

are that tight on money they should also be eligible for State or

County assistance. Foodstamps, cash assistance, and medicaid. I

know I received all three when we were at our worst

financially. They should look into this. I may be reading into this

wrong but is your daughter worried you will become ill because then

you will no longer be able to help them? That seems rather self

centered and not truly caring about your well being. I apologize

if I'm misunderstanding your post or the relationship you have with

your daughter. Dave

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