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Beth,

Does your heart rate go up when you stand up after sitting for a

while? I am wondering because I have the exact symptoms that you

have and just found out today that I have orthostatic tachycardia.

It is a problem with the autonomic nervouse system and it effects

many CFS patients (and patients who do not have CFS). Some docs

think that it is a major cause of CFS type symptoms. It can cause

many many different symptoms. Hope you are better soon...

Ann

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> Patty, did your tingling feel similiar to a hand or foot falling

> asleep? That's how mine feels. Mostly in my foot, or left hand,

> left arm, sometimes whole combination there. It's a very strange

> feeling. Sometimes I will shake my foot, but it really doesn't

> help. My doctor calls them paresthesias. I prayed to God to take

> it away from my face, and for the most part it is gone from there,

> so I should feel thankful for that. The fear creeps back in and I

> start wondering all over again if I have MS, and when you look up

> the MS symptoms, mine are all there. The only thing I have that is

> not consistent with MS is that wet heat will make my symptoms

> better, sometimes for hours at a time, so it's more like a

> neuropathy, I think. Anyway I was just curious how long yours took

> to go away. Also, I am still having muscle twitches and they have

> started in my right eye as well,sigh......

>

> :)Beth

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Dear Beth, I use to think I had MS too. I had a twitch that was so extreme it shook my whole right side when I would fall asleep. If I tried to lay on that side it would still do it. My twitches went away even before explant. I think I had a little peak again at explant ( I had silicone spill) but they weren't much of anything. I don't get any of the muscle twitches now. Praise God. Yours will go away soon after explant. God Bless, bethlakey <bethlakey@...> wrote:

Patty, did your tingling feel similiar to a hand or foot falling asleep? That's how mine feels. Mostly in my foot, or left hand, left arm, sometimes whole combination there. It's a very strange feeling. Sometimes I will shake my foot, but it really doesn't help. My doctor calls them paresthesias. I prayed to God to take it away from my face, and for the most part it is gone from there, so I should feel thankful for that. The fear creeps back in and I start wondering all over again if I have MS, and when you look up the MS symptoms, mine are all there. The only thing I have that is not consistent with MS is that wet heat will make my symptoms better, sometimes for hours at a time, so it's more like a neuropathy, I think. Anyway I was just curious how long yours took to go away. Also, I am still having muscle twitches and they have

started in my right eye as well,sigh......:)Beth

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Ann,

Before I had my explant I had tachycardia, about 120-130 beats per

minute. That started two days after implant and stayed with me on

and off the whole time I had them, about 11 months. Since explant,

I have not had one episode, praise God. And it's been almost three

months now. It looks like most of us have similar symptoms.

> > Patty, did your tingling feel similiar to a hand or foot falling

> > asleep? That's how mine feels. Mostly in my foot, or left

hand,

> > left arm, sometimes whole combination there. It's a very

strange

> > feeling. Sometimes I will shake my foot, but it really doesn't

> > help. My doctor calls them paresthesias. I prayed to God to

take

> > it away from my face, and for the most part it is gone from

there,

> > so I should feel thankful for that. The fear creeps back in and

I

> > start wondering all over again if I have MS, and when you look

up

> > the MS symptoms, mine are all there. The only thing I have that

is

> > not consistent with MS is that wet heat will make my symptoms

> > better, sometimes for hours at a time, so it's more like a

> > neuropathy, I think. Anyway I was just curious how long yours

took

> > to go away. Also, I am still having muscle twitches and they

have

> > started in my right eye as well,sigh......

> >

> > :)Beth

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I had a scary episode a few nights ago as I was falling asleep. My

left arm felt frozen and my face starting twitching horribly. I

thought I was having a seizure or something, but I fell asleep, so I

can't be sure,lol. Anyway, I've been explanted for three months now

so am just waiting on these last symptoms to get better, I hope!

hugs,

Beth

Patty, did your tingling feel

similiar to a hand or foot falling

> asleep? That's how mine feels. Mostly in my foot, or left hand,

> left arm, sometimes whole combination there. It's a very strange

> feeling. Sometimes I will shake my foot, but it really doesn't

> help. My doctor calls them paresthesias. I prayed to God to take

> it away from my face, and for the most part it is gone from there,

> so I should feel thankful for that. The fear creeps back in and I

> start wondering all over again if I have MS, and when you look up

> the MS symptoms, mine are all there. The only thing I have that is

> not consistent with MS is that wet heat will make my symptoms

> better, sometimes for hours at a time, so it's more like a

> neuropathy, I think. Anyway I was just curious how long yours took

> to go away. Also, I am still having muscle twitches and they have

> started in my right eye as well,sigh......

>

> :)Beth

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks Beth, this is really great info, and I believe is really appropriate. I

need to see if I can handle green juices again without feeling loopy...if I can,

I will do some green juices to start and look into the chlorella. I checked out

Mercola's site and it looks like a great product!

I am glad you are seeing some improvement! I think the fish oil is another thing

I need to be dedicated to taking again. I'm pretty awful about keeping up with

my supplements anymore! : )

Thanks for the input!

Hugs,

Patty

>

>

> Try Chlorella to pull out any remaining neurotoxins, so far it's been

> the only binder I've been able to tolerate, have been on it for two

> weeks now and am starting to see some improvement, am taking 2800mg of

> fish oil daily. I'm going to add Chilantro to the mix and see what

> happens. Got mine from Mercola.com

>

> http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/9steps.htm

> <http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/9steps.htm>

>

> Chlorella

> Both C. Pyreneidosa (better absorption of toxins, but harder to digest)

> and C. Vulgaris (higher CGF content — see below, easier to digest,

> less metal absorbing capability) are available. Chlorella has multiple

> health inducing effects:

>

> * Antiviral (especially effective against the cytomegaly virus from

> the herpes family) * Toxin Binding (mucopolysaccharide membrane)

> all known toxic metals, environmental toxins such as dioxin and others

> * Repairs and activates the body's detoxification functions *

> Dramatically increases reduced glutathion * Sporopollein is as

> effective as cholestyramine in binding neurotoxins and more effective in

> binding toxic metals than any other natural substance found. *

> Various peptides restore coeruloplasmin and metallothioneine. *

> Lipids (12.4%) alpha-and gamma-linoleic acid help to balance the

> increased intake of fish oil during our detox program and are necessary

> for a multitude of functions, including formation of the peroxisomes.

> * Methyl-coblolamine is food for the nervous system, restores damaged

> neurons and has its own detoxifying effect. * Chlorella growth

> factor helps the body detoxify itself in a yet not understood profound

> way. It appears that over millions of years chlorella has developed

> specific detoxifying proteins and peptides for every existing toxic

> metal. * The porphyrins in chlorophyll have their own strong metal

> binding effect. Chlorophyll also activates the PPAR-receptor on the

> nucleus of the cell which is responsible for the transcription of DNA

> and coding the formation of the peroxisomes (see fish oil), opening of

> the cell wall (unknown mechanism) which is necessary for all detox

> procedures, normalizes insulin resistance and much more. Medical drugs

> that activate the PPAR receptor (such as pioglitazone) have been

> effective in the treatment of breast and prostate cancer. * Super

> nutrient: 50–60% amino acid content, ideal nutrient for vegetarians,

> methylcobolamin — the most easily absorbed and utilized form of B12,

> B6, minerals, chlorophyll, beta carotene etc. * Immune system

> strengthening * Restores bowel flora * Digestive Aid (bulking

> agent) * Alkalinizing agent (Important for patient's with

> malignancies)

>

> Sporopollein is as effective as cholestyramine in binding neurotoxins

> and more effective in binding toxic metals than any other natural

> substance found.

>

> Various peptides restore coeruloplasmin and metallothioneine.

>

> Lipids (12.4%) alpha-and gamma-linoleic acid help to balance the

> increased intake of fish oil during our detox program and are necessary

> for a multitude of functions, including formation of the peroxisomes.

>

> Methyl-coblolamine is food for the nervous system, restores damaged

> neurons and has its own detoxifying effect.

>

> Chlorella growth factor helps the body detoxify itself in a yet not

> understood profound way. It appears that over millions of years

> chlorella has developed specific detoxifying proteins and peptides for

> every existing toxic metal.

>

> The porphyrins in chlorophyll have their own strong metal binding

> effect. Chlorophyll also activates the PPAR-receptor on the nucleus of

> the cell which is responsible for the transcription of DNA and coding

> the formation of the peroxisomes (see fish oil), opening of the cell

> wall (unknown mechanism) which is necessary for all detox procedures,

> normalizes insulin resistance and much more. Medical drugs that activate

> the PPAR receptor (such as pioglitazone) have been effective in the

> treatment of breast and prostate cancer.

>

> Super nutrient: 50–60% amino acid content, ideal nutrient for

> vegetarians, methylcobolamin — the most easily absorbed and utilized

> form of B12, B6, minerals, chlorophyll, beta carotene etc.

>

> Dosage: start with 1 gram ( = 4 tab.) 3–4 times/day. This is the

> standard maintenance dosage for grown ups for the 6–24 months of

> active detox. During the more active phase of the detox (every 2–4

> weeks for 1 week), whenever cilantro is given, the dose can be increased

> to 3 grams 3–4 times per day (1 week on, 2–4 weeks back down to

> the maintenance dosage). Take 30 minutes before the main meals and at

> bedtime. This way chlorella is exactly in that portion of the small

> intestine where the bile squirts into the gut at the beginning of the

> meal, carrying with it toxic metals and other toxic waste. These are

> bound by the chlorella cell wall and carried out via the digestive

> tract.

>

> When amalgam fillings are removed, the higher dose should be given for 2

> days before and 2–5 days after the procedure (the more fillings are

> removed, the longer the higher dose should be given). No cilantro should

> be given around the time of dental work. During this time we do not want

> to mobilize deeply stored metals in addition to the expected new

> exposure.

>

> If you take Vitamin C during your detox program, take it as far away

> from Chlorella as possible (best after meals).

>

> Side effects: most side effects reflect the toxic effect of the

> mobilized metals, which are shuttled through the organism. This problem

> is instantly avoided by significantly increasing the chlorella dosage,

> not by reducing it, which would worsen the problem (small chlorella

> doses mobilize more metals than are bound in the gut, large chlorella

> doses bind more toxins than are mobilized). Some people have problems

> digesting the cell membrane of chlorella. The enzyme cellulase resolves

> this problem.

>

> Cellulase is available in many health food stores in digestive enzyme

> products. Taking chlorella together with food also helps in some cases,

> even though it is less effective that way. C. Vulgaris has a thinner

> cell wall and is better tolerated by people with digestive problems.

> Some manufactures have created cell wall free chlorella extracts (NDF,

> PCA), which are very expensive, less effective — but easily

> absorbed.

>

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