Re: Gallbladder?

[Guest guest]

If you're going to use lecithen, get the granulated kind. It'll be a good deal

less expensive and one tablespoonfull will equal 9 of those softgels. It has a

slight vanilla flavor.

Chuck

An excess of syntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colon!

On Fri, 25 May 2001 11:51:57 -0500, " Angelkat " <angelkat@...>

wrote:

>Someone on this list told me that Lecithin was a good supplement to take for

>gallbladder pain/attacks. Does anyone know how much one can take in a day?

>I bought 1200 mg. softgels.... Is there anything else that might help to

>dissolve any gallstones, I don't know if I have them, just suspecting that I

>COULD I see a gallbladder/liver flush in my future (when school is out)

>so I won't have to get the kids off to school ! KAT

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

Angelkat @ <angelkat@...> Wrote:

> " Someone on this list told me that Lecithin was a good supplement to take

for

> gallbladder pain/attacks. Does anyone know how much one can take in a

day?

> I bought 1200 mg. softgels.... Is there anything else that might help to

> dissolve any gallstones, "

Hi Kat,

I've read you can take 2400mg to 4800mg. of lecithin daily, 2 in the morning

and 2 in the evening. Also take 500mg. taurine with it to help keep

cholesterol suspended. Haven't tried either myself; that's just what I've

read.

Gail

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

Angelkat @ <angelkat@...> Wrote:

> " Someone on this list told me that Lecithin was a good supplement to take

for

> gallbladder pain/attacks. Does anyone know how much one can take in a

day?

> I bought 1200 mg. softgels.... Is there anything else that might help to

> dissolve any gallstones, "

Hi Kat,

I've read you can take 2400mg to 4800mg. of lecithin daily, 2 in the morning

and 2 in the evening. Also take 500mg. taurine with it to help keep

cholesterol suspended. Haven't tried either myself; that's just what I've

read.

Gail

[Guest guest]

Fresh squeezed lemon juice mixed with the olive oil, instead of grapefruit

juice.

Apple cider works good with the Epsom salt, instead of water. It hides the

taste and you get some malic acid to help dissolve the stones.

Don

gallbladder?

Hi guys, my dad is about to get his gallbladder removed (due to gallstones)

and I'm trying to convince him to opt for other methods first. He happens

to

be an " A " . I've suggested Heidi's cleanse. Any other thoughts for his

blood

type. I think he has to avoid grapefruit juice because of some med. he's

on... I understand cold pressed apple juice is an alternative. Also

suggested

he see a good naturopath first. Any help would be great ! Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Have you read LR4YT pages 222-224?

Don

gallbladder?

Hi guys, my dad is about to get his gallbladder removed (due to gallstones)

and I'm trying to convince him to opt for other methods first. He happens

to

be an " A " . I've suggested Heidi's cleanse. Any other thoughts for his

blood

type.

[Guest guest]

lescase@... wrote:

> Hi guys, my dad is about to get his gallbladder removed (due to

gallstones)

If it were me, I'd contact a good homeopath first. (BIH/USA is a good

place to ask for a qualified one in a specific area. The reason to do

that is that removing gall stones does not fix whatever caused them. If

you use homeopathy to remedy the problem, it does so by removing the cause.

(Also - it is non-invasive and nontoxic.)

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

[Guest guest]

I am sure that you will get other responses as well, but here is my

two cents:

Most people, including myself, have gallbladder issues but don't have

much pain. Only one real " attack " for me.

As for the removal, the vast vast vast majority of people don't need

to have it removed. It is a mistake for most people. It is an organ

that you need. Removing it causes problems in itself. Removing it

does not remove the gallstones in the liver either.

The best thing to do is to improve your diet and do some liver/GB

cleanses. Some people also take some supplements as well.

I have never heard of the cleanses making things worse. If you could

elaborate on what you read, that might help.

Good luck to you...

--- In gallstones , " heathermkay " <heatherkay08@...>

wrote:

>

> I have had uncomfortable pressure under my right ribcage for almost

two

> weeks. I went to the doctor yesterday and she thinks it is

gallbladder

> related. I cannot get in to get an ultrasound until next week.

The

> only option she gave me if it is gallbladder is to have it

removed. I

> don't have any severe pain. I just have uncomfortable pressure and

a

> slight stabbing pain at times. I have not been able to figure out

it

> relates to eating. I did notice a lot of pressure several hours

after

> eating a large salad but I thought fats caused the problems. Could

> this still be gall bladder related even though I don't have much

pain?

>

> Is there anything I can do to calm my gallbladder down? Are there

> certain foods to avoid or natural remedies that would help? I have

> never done a liver flush but I am afraid to do one while I am

already

> having a lot of pressure because I have read it can make things

worse.

> I really need some advice!

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Please do not rush to surgery. Get A-F Betafood tablets (discussed here many

times). It really helps.

Amber

The

only option she gave me if it is gallbladder is to have it removed. I

don't have any severe pain.

Is there anything I can do to calm my gallbladder down? worse.

I really need some advice!

.

[Guest guest]

What type cleanse would you recommend? This is all new to me so I may be a

little confused. I read that I could use epsom salt and water. Is this a

cleanse? Can you give me an idea of what I can start with? I read somewhere

that herbal cleanses could put you into a severe gallbladder attack. That's why

I was a little cautious since I have never tried any type cleanse before.

-------------- Original message --------------

From: " fjnie1234 " <Fred.Niehaus@...>

I am sure that you will get other responses as well, but here is my

two cents:

Most people, including myself, have gallbladder issues but don't have

much pain. Only one real " attack " for me.

As for the removal, the vast vast vast majority of people don't need

to have it removed. It is a mistake for most people. It is an organ

that you need. Removing it causes problems in itself. Removing it

does not remove the gallstones in the liver either.

The best thing to do is to improve your diet and do some liver/GB

cleanses. Some people also take some supplements as well.

I have never heard of the cleanses making things worse. If you could

elaborate on what you read, that might help.

Good luck to you...

--- In gallstones , " heathermkay " <heatherkay08@...>

wrote:

>

> I have had uncomfortable pressure under my right ribcage for almost

two

> weeks. I went to the doctor yesterday and she thinks it is

gallbladder

> related. I cannot get in to get an ultrasound until next week.

The

> only option she gave me if it is gallbladder is to have it

removed. I

> don't have any severe pain. I just have uncomfortable pressure and

a

> slight stabbing pain at times. I have not been able to figure out

it

> relates to eating. I did notice a lot of pressure several hours

after

> eating a large salad but I thought fats caused the problems. Could

> this still be gall bladder related even though I don't have much

pain?

>

> Is there anything I can do to calm my gallbladder down? Are there

> certain foods to avoid or natural remedies that would help? I have

> never done a liver flush but I am afraid to do one while I am

already

> having a lot of pressure because I have read it can make things

worse.

> I really need some advice!

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Most people do a flush with olive oil and grapefruit juice or lemon

juice. According to a survey, the most popular protocol for this is

Hulda 's (Google it), second is s Moritz (I have his book -

found at Amazon.com). Both approaches are very similar. Some

others follow the protocol on www.SensibleHealth.com. There are

other variations as well.

I use Moritz's protocol for liver/GB flushing. This calls for the

epsom salts a couple hours prior to the flush, then again the next

morning. The epsom salts relaxes and opens up the biliary ducts.

Sometimes I use the terms cleanse and flush interchangably. Probably

not a good idea. The flush usually refers to the quick gallstone

removal while the cleanse may refer to a longer-term cleansing of the

liver and gallbladder.

I would guess the herbal approach is more for cleansing than

flushing, but don't know much about that.

> >

> > I have had uncomfortable pressure under my right ribcage for

almost

> two

> > weeks. I went to the doctor yesterday and she thinks it is

> gallbladder

> > related. I cannot get in to get an ultrasound until next week.

> The

> > only option she gave me if it is gallbladder is to have it

> removed. I

> > don't have any severe pain. I just have uncomfortable pressure

and

> a

> > slight stabbing pain at times. I have not been able to figure out

> it

> > relates to eating. I did notice a lot of pressure several hours

> after

> > eating a large salad but I thought fats caused the problems.

Could

> > this still be gall bladder related even though I don't have much

> pain?

> >

> > Is there anything I can do to calm my gallbladder down? Are there

> > certain foods to avoid or natural remedies that would help? I

have

> > never done a liver flush but I am afraid to do one while I am

> already

> > having a lot of pressure because I have read it can make things

> worse.

> > I really need some advice!

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

I dont know where you read that it was dangerous to do a flush if you

have discomfort there. That is simply untrue. If anything you will

experience major relief after doing a gb flush. You need to do 1

every month until you are clear of all stones though.

The discomfort may infact make it so your flush is more productive it

sounds like your body is trying to push a stone(s) out on its own and

it needs help.

Just stick with the basics do the basic hulda clark liver flush and

then do a parasite and colon cleanse before your 2nd gb flush:

http://www..net/en/cleanses_clean-ups/liver_cleanses.php

Take magnesium too! The best one I have tried to date (and I have

tried alot) is found at www.petergillham.com I use the Calm with

Calcium (it also has boron, D3, vitamin C and potassium in it).

Magnesium aids your body in many ways but muscles cant contract

without suficient magnesium. Your gallbladder's ability to contract

and expell the stones is dependent upon sufficient magnesium.

Brad

>

> I have had uncomfortable pressure under my right ribcage for almost two

> weeks. I went to the doctor yesterday and she thinks it is gallbladder

> related. I cannot get in to get an ultrasound until next week. The

> only option she gave me if it is gallbladder is to have it removed. I

> don't have any severe pain. I just have uncomfortable pressure and a

> slight stabbing pain at times. I have not been able to figure out it

> relates to eating. I did notice a lot of pressure several hours after

> eating a large salad but I thought fats caused the problems. Could

> this still be gall bladder related even though I don't have much pain?

>

> Is there anything I can do to calm my gallbladder down? Are there

> certain foods to avoid or natural remedies that would help? I have

> never done a liver flush but I am afraid to do one while I am already

> having a lot of pressure because I have read it can make things worse.

> I really need some advice!

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Brad, thanks so much for the info about the magnesium. I haven't

been able to get a very productive liver/GB flush. I have been

trying to figure out why that is. I am also battling candida and I

understand that candida sufferers typically are magnesium deficient.

Maybe I am magnesium deficient and that is why I don't get very good

flushes.

I will definitely try a magnesium supplement. How do you know the

Calm is the best you've tried? What makes it stand out? Also, why

did you pick the Calcium version?

Thanks again.

>

>

> Take magnesium too! The best one I have tried to date (and I have

> tried alot) is found at www.petergillham.com I use the Calm with

> Calcium (it also has boron, D3, vitamin C and potassium in it).

> Magnesium aids your body in many ways but muscles cant contract

> without suficient magnesium. Your gallbladder's ability to contract

> and expell the stones is dependent upon sufficient magnesium.

>

> Brad

[Guest guest]

I just read over the liver cleanse you sent. It does not sound too complicated.

I get nauseated easy so I am wondering how hard it is to keep it all down

especially the olive oil mixture. I read that you may feel ill for one or two

days afterwards. Is this usually the case with the first cleanse? I have two

little girls so I am wondering if I need to try to do the cleanse when I have

help with them.

Do most health food stores carry ornithine and black walnut tincture? What is

HCI and where can it be purchased?

Thanks,

-------------- Original message --------------

From: " ontarioguy2334 " <ontarioguy2334@...>

Hey ,

I dont know where you read that it was dangerous to do a flush if you

have discomfort there. That is simply untrue. If anything you will

experience major relief after doing a gb flush. You need to do 1

every month until you are clear of all stones though.

The discomfort may infact make it so your flush is more productive it

sounds like your body is trying to push a stone(s) out on its own and

it needs help.

Just stick with the basics do the basic hulda clark liver flush and

then do a parasite and colon cleanse before your 2nd gb flush:

http://www..net/en/cleanses_clean-ups/liver_cleanses.php

Take magnesium too! The best one I have tried to date (and I have

tried alot) is found at www.petergillham.com I use the Calm with

Calcium (it also has boron, D3, vitamin C and potassium in it).

Magnesium aids your body in many ways but muscles cant contract

without suficient magnesium. Your gallbladder's ability to contract

and expell the stones is dependent upon sufficient magnesium.

Brad

>

> I have had uncomfortable pressure under my right ribcage for almost two

> weeks. I went to the doctor yesterday and she thinks it is gallbladder

> related. I cannot get in to get an ultrasound until next week. The

> only option she gave me if it is gallbladder is to have it removed. I

> don't have any severe pain. I just have uncomfortable pressure and a

> slight stabbing pain at times. I have not been able to figure out it

> relates to eating. I did notice a lot of pressure several hours after

> eating a large salad but I thought fats caused the problems. Could

> this still be gall bladder related even though I don't have much pain?

>

> Is there anything I can do to calm my gallbladder down? Are there

> certain foods to avoid or natural remedies that would help? I have

> never done a liver flush but I am afraid to do one while I am already

> having a lot of pressure because I have read it can make things worse.

> I really need some advice!

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Most people feel rejuvenated, not ill, on the days afterward.

Also, some people add tomato juice to soothe any possible nausia when

you drink the mixture. I am not sure how much. I have never felt

nausious from the mixture, but some people do.

>

> I just read over the liver cleanse you sent. It does not sound too

complicated. I get nauseated easy so I am wondering how hard it is

to keep it all down especially the olive oil mixture. I read that

you may feel ill for one or two days afterwards. Is this usually the

case with the first cleanse? I have two little girls so I am

wondering if I need to try to do the cleanse when I have help with

them.

>

> Do most health food stores carry ornithine and black walnut

tincture? What is HCI and where can it be purchased?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: " ontarioguy2334 " <ontarioguy2334@...>

> Hey ,

> I dont know where you read that it was dangerous to do a flush if

you

> have discomfort there. That is simply untrue. If anything you will

> experience major relief after doing a gb flush. You need to do 1

> every month until you are clear of all stones though.

> The discomfort may infact make it so your flush is more productive

it

> sounds like your body is trying to push a stone(s) out on its own

and

> it needs help.

> Just stick with the basics do the basic hulda clark liver flush and

> then do a parasite and colon cleanse before your 2nd gb flush:

>

> http://www..net/en/cleanses_clean-ups/liver_cleanses.php

>

> Take magnesium too! The best one I have tried to date (and I have

> tried alot) is found at www.petergillham.com I use the Calm with

> Calcium (it also has boron, D3, vitamin C and potassium in it).

> Magnesium aids your body in many ways but muscles cant contract

> without suficient magnesium. Your gallbladder's ability to contract

> and expell the stones is dependent upon sufficient magnesium.

>

> Brad

> --- In gallstones , " heathermkay " <heatherkay08@>

wrote:

> >

> > I have had uncomfortable pressure under my right ribcage for

almost two

> > weeks. I went to the doctor yesterday and she thinks it is

gallbladder

> > related. I cannot get in to get an ultrasound until next week.

The

> > only option she gave me if it is gallbladder is to have it

removed. I

> > don't have any severe pain. I just have uncomfortable pressure

and a

> > slight stabbing pain at times. I have not been able to figure out

it

> > relates to eating. I did notice a lot of pressure several hours

after

> > eating a large salad but I thought fats caused the problems.

Could

> > this still be gall bladder related even though I don't have much

pain?

> >

> > Is there anything I can do to calm my gallbladder down? Are there

> > certain foods to avoid or natural remedies that would help? I

have

> > never done a liver flush but I am afraid to do one while I am

already

> > having a lot of pressure because I have read it can make things

worse.

> > I really need some advice!

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Will the Epson Salt and water work to open up the bile ducts without using the

olive oil mixture? I really want to get some relief from the pressure I feel

under my ribs but we are heading out of town tomorrow night...so I don't have

time to do the complete flush. I am not in pain...just uncomfortable so I am

trying to figure out something I can do until I can be home for a couple of

days.

Thanks,

-------------- Original message --------------

From: " fjnie1234 " <Fred.Niehaus@...>

Most people feel rejuvenated, not ill, on the days afterward.

Also, some people add tomato juice to soothe any possible nausia when

you drink the mixture. I am not sure how much. I have never felt

nausious from the mixture, but some people do.

>

> I just read over the liver cleanse you sent. It does not sound too

complicated. I get nauseated easy so I am wondering how hard it is

to keep it all down especially the olive oil mixture. I read that

you may feel ill for one or two days afterwards. Is this usually the

case with the first cleanse? I have two little girls so I am

wondering if I need to try to do the cleanse when I have help with

them.

>

> Do most health food stores carry ornithine and black walnut

tincture? What is HCI and where can it be purchased?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: " ontarioguy2334 " <ontarioguy2334@...>

> Hey ,

> I dont know where you read that it was dangerous to do a flush if

you

> have discomfort there. That is simply untrue. If anything you will

> experience major relief after doing a gb flush. You need to do 1

> every month until you are clear of all stones though.

> The discomfort may infact make it so your flush is more productive

it

> sounds like your body is trying to push a stone(s) out on its own

and

> it needs help.

> Just stick with the basics do the basic hulda clark liver flush and

> then do a parasite and colon cleanse before your 2nd gb flush:

>

> http://www..net/en/cleanses_clean-ups/liver_cleanses.php

>

> Take magnesium too! The best one I have tried to date (and I have

> tried alot) is found at www.petergillham.com I use the Calm with

> Calcium (it also has boron, D3, vitamin C and potassium in it).

> Magnesium aids your body in many ways but muscles cant contract

> without suficient magnesium. Your gallbladder's ability to contract

> and expell the stones is dependent upon sufficient magnesium.

>

> Brad

> --- In gallstones , " heathermkay " <heatherkay08@>

wrote:

> >

> > I have had uncomfortable pressure under my right ribcage for

almost two

> > weeks. I went to the doctor yesterday and she thinks it is

gallbladder

> > related. I cannot get in to get an ultrasound until next week.

The

> > only option she gave me if it is gallbladder is to have it

removed. I

> > don't have any severe pain. I just have uncomfortable pressure

and a

> > slight stabbing pain at times. I have not been able to figure out

it

> > relates to eating. I did notice a lot of pressure several hours

after

> > eating a large salad but I thought fats caused the problems.

Could

> > this still be gall bladder related even though I don't have much

pain?

> >

> > Is there anything I can do to calm my gallbladder down? Are there

> > certain foods to avoid or natural remedies that would help? I

have

> > never done a liver flush but I am afraid to do one while I am

already

> > having a lot of pressure because I have read it can make things

worse.

> > I really need some advice!

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Other people may have advice for you, but the epsom salts relax and

open up the ducts while the olive oil causes a contraction of the

GB. Two completely different things. Will the epsom salts by

themselves help with discomfort? I am not sure. Hope others can

help you with a short-term solution.

> > >

> > > I have had uncomfortable pressure under my right ribcage for

> almost two

> > > weeks. I went to the doctor yesterday and she thinks it is

> gallbladder

> > > related. I cannot get in to get an ultrasound until next week.

> The

> > > only option she gave me if it is gallbladder is to have it

> removed. I

> > > don't have any severe pain. I just have uncomfortable pressure

> and a

> > > slight stabbing pain at times. I have not been able to figure

out

> it

> > > relates to eating. I did notice a lot of pressure several hours

> after

> > > eating a large salad but I thought fats caused the problems.

> Could

> > > this still be gall bladder related even though I don't have

much

> pain?

> > >

> > > Is there anything I can do to calm my gallbladder down? Are

there

> > > certain foods to avoid or natural remedies that would help? I

> have

> > > never done a liver flush but I am afraid to do one while I am

> already

> > > having a lot of pressure because I have read it can make things

> worse.

> > > I really need some advice!

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Brad, Gillham's website says that magnesium aids in relaxing

while calcium aids in contracting. This seems to be the opposite of

what you wrote below??? Thanks.

>

> Take magnesium too! The best one I have tried to date (and I have

> tried alot) is found at www.petergillham.com I use the Calm with

> Calcium (it also has boron, D3, vitamin C and potassium in it).

> Magnesium aids your body in many ways but muscles cant contract

> without suficient magnesium. Your gallbladder's ability to contract

> and expell the stones is dependent upon sufficient magnesium.

>

> Brad

[Guest guest]

Fred is right on the money. You do not want to take a large quantity of epson

salts before heading out of town! the other thing they do in the flush is bring

water to the stool and have a laxative effect. Get my drift? You could find

yourself needing to stop at a moments notice. Taking a couple thousand

milligrams of magnesium citrate (or malate) or the other magnesium supplement

discussed I believe by Brad may give relief without the severely laxative

effect. Happy trails, Dave

gallstones@...: Fred.Niehaus@...: Thu, 22

May 2008 18:01:18 +0000Subject: Re: Gallbladder?

Other people may have advice for you, but the epsom salts relax and open up the

ducts while the olive oil causes a contraction of the GB. Two completely

different things. Will the epsom salts by themselves help with discomfort? I am

not sure. Hope others can help you with a short-term solution.> >> > I just read over the

liver cleanse you sent. It does not sound too > complicated. I get nauseated

easy so I am wondering how hard it is > to keep it all down especially the olive

oil mixture. I read that > you may feel ill for one or two days afterwards. Is

this usually the > case with the first cleanse? I have two little girls so I am

> wondering if I need to try to do the cleanse when I have help with > them.> >

> > Do most health food stores carry ornithine and black walnut > tincture? What

is HCI and where can it be purchased?> > > > Thanks,> > > > > >

-------------- Original message -------------- > > From: " ontarioguy2334 "

<ontarioguy2334@> > > Hey , > > I dont know where you read that it was

dangerous to do a flush if > you> > have discomfort there. That is simply

untrue. If anything you will> > experience major relief after doing a gb flush.

You need to do 1> > every month until you are clear of all stones though. > >

The discomfort may infact make it so your flush is more productive > it> >

sounds like your body is trying to push a stone(s) out on its own > and> > it

needs help.> > Just stick with the basics do the basic hulda clark liver flush

and> > then do a parasite and colon cleanse before your 2nd gb flush:> > > >

http://www..net/en/cleanses_clean-ups/liver_cleanses.php> > > > Take

magnesium too! The best one I have tried to date (and I have> > tried alot) is

found at www.petergillham.com I use the Calm with> > Calcium (it also has boron,

D3, vitamin C and potassium in it).> > Magnesium aids your body in many ways but

muscles cant contract> > without suficient magnesium. Your gallbladder's ability

to contract> > and expell the stones is dependent upon sufficient magnesium.> >

> > Brad > > --- In gallstones , " heathermkay " <heatherkay08@> >

wrote:> > >> > > I have had uncomfortable pressure under my right ribcage for >

almost two > > > weeks. I went to the doctor yesterday and she thinks it is >

gallbladder > > > related. I cannot get in to get an ultrasound until next week.

> The > > > only option she gave me if it is gallbladder is to have it >

removed. I > > > don't have any severe pain. I just have uncomfortable pressure

> and a > > > slight stabbing pain at times. I have not been able to figure out

> it > > > relates to eating. I did notice a lot of pressure several hours >

after > > > eating a large salad but I thought fats caused the problems. > Could

> > > this still be gall bladder related even though I don't have much > pain?>

> > > > > Is there anything I can do to calm my gallbladder down? Are there > >

> certain foods to avoid or natural remedies that would help? I > have > > >

never done a liver flush but I am afraid to do one while I am > already > > >

having a lot of pressure because I have read it can make things > worse. > > > I

really need some advice!> > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Magnesium relaxes aids in contraction- get yourself some A-F Beta food

from standard process- you cam order on line and overnight shipping -

it really helps immediately with the discomfort. WOuld take stright

magnesium for the moment- it is a bit chalky - however the A-F tablets

might do the trick

good luck

On May 22, 2008, at 10:27 AM, heatherkay08@... wrote:

> Will the Epson Salt and water work to open up the bile ducts without

> using the olive oil mixture? I really want to get some relief from

> the pressure I feel under my ribs but we are heading out of town

> tomorrow night...so I don't have time to do the complete flush. I am

> not in pain...just uncomfortable so I am trying to figure out

> something I can do until I can be home for a couple of days.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: " fjnie1234 " <Fred.Niehaus@...>

> Most people feel rejuvenated, not ill, on the days afterward.

>

> Also, some people add tomato juice to soothe any possible nausia when

> you drink the mixture. I am not sure how much. I have never felt

> nausious from the mixture, but some people do.

>

>

> > >

> > > I have had uncomfortable pressure under my right ribcage for

> almost two

> > > weeks. I went to the doctor yesterday and she thinks it is

> gallbladder

> > > related. I cannot get in to get an ultrasound until next week.

> The

> > > only option she gave me if it is gallbladder is to have it

> removed. I

> > > don't have any severe pain. I just have uncomfortable pressure

> and a

> > > slight stabbing pain at times. I have not been able to figure out

> it

> > > relates to eating. I did notice a lot of pressure several hours

> after

> > > eating a large salad but I thought fats caused the problems.

> Could

> > > this still be gall bladder related even though I don't have much

> pain?

> > >

> > > Is there anything I can do to calm my gallbladder down? Are there

> > > certain foods to avoid or natural remedies that would help? I

> have

> > > never done a liver flush but I am afraid to do one while I am

> already

> > > having a lot of pressure because I have read it can make things

> worse.

> > > I really need some advice!

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Whenever I feel a slight discomfort, I take some A-F Betafood tables and it

always takes care of the problem. I buy the large bottle ($42.00) and keep it

in the refrigerator.

Amber

Magnesium relaxes aids in contraction- get yourself some A-F Beta food

from standard process- you cam order on line and overnight shipping -

it really helps immediately with the discomfort. WOuld take stright

magnesium for the moment- it is a bit chalky - however the A-F tablets

might do the trick

good luck

.

[Guest guest]

So...would you start with the A-F Betafood tablets first or go ahead and do a

liver flush if I am having pressure in the gall bladder area but not much pain?

-------------- Original message --------------

From: " Amber " <amber@...>

Whenever I feel a slight discomfort, I take some A-F Betafood tables and it

always takes care of the problem. I buy the large bottle ($42.00) and keep it in

the refrigerator.

Amber

Magnesium relaxes aids in contraction- get yourself some A-F Beta food

from standard process- you cam order on line and overnight shipping -

it really helps immediately with the discomfort. WOuld take stright

magnesium for the moment- it is a bit chalky - however the A-F tablets

might do the trick

good luck

..

[Guest guest]

I have been searching for something I can do until I have a couple of days to do

a liver flush. I am going to order the A-F Beta food, too. A lady at the local

herb shop told me that taking three tbsp. of olive oil mixed with citrus juice

at bed time and in the morning will help flush stones out. Is this true? I am

willing to try but it seems so simple compared to the Hulda flush.

I really appreciate all the help!

-------------- Original message --------------

From: " Amber " <amber@...>

Whenever I feel a slight discomfort, I take some A-F Betafood tables and it

always takes care of the problem. I buy the large bottle ($42.00) and keep it in

the refrigerator.

Amber

Magnesium relaxes aids in contraction- get yourself some A-F Beta food

from standard process- you cam order on line and overnight shipping -

it really helps immediately with the discomfort. WOuld take stright

magnesium for the moment- it is a bit chalky - however the A-F tablets

might do the trick

good luck

..

[Guest guest]

Hey there,

Actually both is true. Mag is essential for relaxation and

contraction. Dave mentioned how Magnesium relaxes smooth muscle

tissue which may be chronically tight. But magnesium also aids in

proper and healthy muscle contraction. Maybe this in part is due to

regulating nerve conduction to that particular muscle? I do know that

muscles cant contract without mag. Calcium is also used in muscle

contraction as well. =)

When I was mentioning muscle contractions and Mag I was speculating as

to the reasoning behind weak gb contractions and hence the resulting

build up of stones may be mag deficiency. Of course calcium and other

nutrient deficiencies is also possible I find mag deficiency to be the

most common. I shoot info back and forth between nutritionists and

naturopaths and this is their thoughts too.

Brad

> >

> > Take magnesium too! The best one I have tried to date (and I have

> > tried alot) is found at www.petergillham.com I use the Calm with

> > Calcium (it also has boron, D3, vitamin C and potassium in it).

> > Magnesium aids your body in many ways but muscles cant contract

> > without suficient magnesium. Your gallbladder's ability to contract

> > and expell the stones is dependent upon sufficient magnesium.

> >

> > Brad

>

[Guest guest]

Well I am going to take the time to figure out whats going on with

you. Intuition tells me you have too much mercury in your bod. I

dont know what the source for you is but its just my gut (pardon the

punn) feeling.

Eliminating heavy metals from the body is a lengthy process and it can

be in depth depending on what protocol you choose. I'll post a

cilantro juicing protocol. It takes time and energy to juice this

much cilantro but trust me its 110% worth it. So if your interested I

can post it. The fresh and raw Cilantro is much much better than the

over priced natural chelators that are on the market. I've tried many

of them and none has the power of fresh raw cilantro.

Candida tends to be an opportunistic infection taking advantage of

some biological weakness. Mercury can not only suppress the immune

system to let other bugs flourish but also the body allows for the

propagation of Candida because of its mercury absorbing ability. So

in protecting itself it actually creates another problem.

Mercury is in higher concentrations of fatty tissues so the brain and

the gastro intestinal area as well.

I was born with high levels of mercury so my body doesnt give it up as

easily as someone who has been exposed to it during their life. Mom

had 9 amalgam fillings, smoked during pregnancy. I dont blame her at

all because she didnt know but all possible avenues of toxicity

exposure have to be explored if one is to get well!

To answer your questions, the reason I think calm is the best is

because I had no symptom benefits from any mag supplement. I took

many different kinds too. Capsules I dont think my body can break

down that well as Lymies tend to not generate HCL (maybe due to too

much blood acidity) which helps break down the gelatin capsule. I

once barfed up a completely intact capsule 2 hours after swallowing

it. Heat is the other thing needed to break them down.

Symptom wise after taking the calm 3x a day to start every 5 hours 1

tsp each dose. I noticed for the first time in about 2 decades I

could relax and just enjoy the moment. It was amazing...

It also seemed to help with my sore muscles as they seemed to feel

better as well. I think that calm with far infrared sauna is a wiked

combo too because you need those alkalizing minerals after sauna

anyways.

The reason I picked the Calcium version is because I am deficient in

all nutrients due to GI damage mediated by infection. Ive killed most

of the bugs off now but I am still healing the gut. We do get some

calcium from foods but some is of poor quality (calcium carbonate for

ex) and in the wrong calcium to magnesium ratios.

Oh I have systemic osteonecrosis thanks to root canals (which are now

extracted) and I need all the bone builders I can get. =)

Brad

OH ps. if you try the cilantro protocol after 1 month you could go on

sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) which is an uber powerful alkalizer.

Some alternative med clinics are using this stuff to kill various

forms of cancer. I might have an article on it let me look. Dont be

surprised if you get some stomach upset from sodium bicarb as many

infections cant live in an alkaline environment and die off. Believe

it or not but sodium bicarb will actually help your stomach to secrete

HCL naturally. This may take some time but HCL production in the

stomach is strictly dependant upon blood pH and B12 (I think?) and

some kind of natural salt.

Take sodium bicarb on an empty stomach away from food. Make sure to

continue taking HCL pills to aid digestion before meals.

But once again I wouldnt try to irradicate candida until you look into

chelating mercury from your body first because the dye off of candida

can release the mercury into your system.

> >

> >

> > Take magnesium too! The best one I have tried to date (and I have

> > tried alot) is found at www.petergillham.com I use the Calm with

> > Calcium (it also has boron, D3, vitamin C and potassium in it).

> > Magnesium aids your body in many ways but muscles cant contract

> > without suficient magnesium. Your gallbladder's ability to contract

> > and expell the stones is dependent upon sufficient magnesium.

> >

> > Brad

>

[Guest guest]

Right on Brad. We have two parts to our autonomous nervous system. The

sympathetic (stimulatory to smooth muscle) and parasympathetic (relaxing to

smooth muscle). This is kind of like a push pull tug of war management system

for automatic unconscious body function like heart beat, breathing, gallbladder

contraction etc. Stimulating or supporting the sympathetic nervous system will

increase heart beat and blood pressure. Stimulation or support of the

parasympathetic portion will slow heart rate down and lower blood pressure.

Many times, the mechanism is similar. This is why some volatile oils are

calming and relaxing, while some are stimulating; the mechanism is the same it

just depends on which nerve function they are active on. In the case of

magnesium like potassium and calcium, it is an electrolyte essential for nerve

function... period. Gallbladder cannot contract with out it nor can it be

relaxed without it. Cool huh?Dave

gallstones@...: ontarioguy2334@...: Sat, 24 May

2008 00:42:20 +0000Subject: Re: Gallbladder?

Hey there,Actually both is true. Mag is essential for relaxation andcontraction.

Dave mentioned how Magnesium relaxes smooth muscletissue which may be

chronically tight. But magnesium also aids inproper and healthy muscle

contraction. Maybe this in part is due toregulating nerve conduction to that

particular muscle? I do know thatmuscles cant contract without mag. Calcium is

also used in musclecontraction as well. =)When I was mentioning muscle

contractions and Mag I was speculating asto the reasoning behind weak gb

contractions and hence the resultingbuild up of stones may be mag deficiency. Of

course calcium and othernutrient deficiencies is also possible I find mag

deficiency to be themost common. I shoot info back and forth between

nutritionists andnaturopaths and this is their thoughts too. Brad>> Brad,

Gillham's website says that magnesium aids in relaxing > while calcium aids in

contracting. This seems to be the opposite of > what you wrote below??? Thanks.>

> --- In gallstones , " ontarioguy2334 " > <ontarioguy2334@>

wrote:> >> > Take magnesium too! The best one I have tried to date (and I have>

> tried alot) is found at www.petergillham.com I use the Calm with> > Calcium

(it also has boron, D3, vitamin C and potassium in it).> > Magnesium aids your

body in many ways but muscles cant contract> > without suficient magnesium. Your

gallbladder's ability to contract> > and expell the stones is dependent upon

sufficient magnesium.> > > > Brad>

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